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This is a poo story. It begins in the UK

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Where we take sanitation and clean water for granted

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Yet just over one hundred years ago, diseases such as diarrhea, and cholera regularly caused sickness and death across Britain.

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Yet these same diseases are killing millions of children across the developing world today

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Title: Poo Productions in association with Phil Turner Productions present

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Title: Mark Little

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Title: The Mozambique Poo Tour

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So, inspired by the shocking human waste report, a mob of us got together. No not plumbers, not sanitation engineers, but musicians and filmmakers to attempt to raise awareness of sanitation issues in the developing world

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Yes, it was the humble toilet that was to lead the band Empty Boat and myself, Mark Little on an extraordinary journey of music, discovery, friendship, dust, videotape and poo in the wonderful country of Mozambique

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Title: Niassa Province, Mozambique

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Chapter one of our poo saga and there's a mountain of band gear to load up. Luckily I'm travelling light so I'm going walkabout. We are in Lichinga, in the Niassa province in the very north of Mozambique

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We're here to hook up with the legendary local band Massukos, who have very close links with Estamos, a local NGO, strongly dedicated to all community needs...

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How you doing

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Yeah Good. Good

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... especially sanitation and HIV.

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We have two weeks in Mozambique with 3,000 miles to travel on a tight schedule. This is rock n roll but not as we know it

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I think we're in the right place. Found a bit of shade. I'm glad I'm here in the winter. Apparently it is very very hot. They are walking around with fleeces on.

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They actually reckon this is a bit nippy. The temperature has dropped to about 23.

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Mozambique is one of poorest countries on the planet and is recovering from 17 years of brutal civil war which ended in 1992

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Life expectancy is low with only one out of five of the rural population having access to sanitation - a toilet basically.

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Poo is no joke, faeces is a germ ridden killer in anyone's language

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One of the main problems with the subject of sanitation and hygiene world wide is that it is still quite a taboo subject. No one really likes talking about the poo - at length anyway. On this trip I will have to broach the subject of poo often. It is an issue. It is only day 2 and there is still a lot of poo to talk. Am I up to it.

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What a trip - 156 kilometres in the back of a Ute in the African bush, dust, villages, happy smiling people. We are definitely on the road. And that is one of the most extraordinary things I've done in my life and I'm glad I'm here.

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What seems like endless miles of travel has ended. We have arrived. Muita, Niassa province, Mozambique

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A major priority in the rebuilding of Mozambique is a healthy population. Toilets. Clean water points and simple hygiene practice are essential.

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Women, who have no access to a latrine must wait until it is dark to go to the toilet. Or they have to walk long distances to find an isolated spot. This exposes them to the dangers of sexual harassment, assault and animal attacks, never mind discomfort and sometimes illness.

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These problems can all be prevented by having a safe, clean toilet close to home.

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Enabling women's voices and problems to be heard in the decision making process is not easy, but a crucial part of the solution

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Enter Massukos! With a truck load of equipment, a generator and a message.

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And straight away it's all in for an impromptu jump up

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Massukos formed a a decade ago, releasing their first album Kuimba kwa Massuko in 2001 winning the media award for best Mozambican group

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This very album, which has sold more than 80,000 copies in a nation where life's basic necessities are scarce, won Massukos the International prize for Water Creation and Arts at the Cannes Water Symposium in 2003.

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Being one of Mozambique's most popular groups, Massukos use their profile to raise awareness nationally about the importance of hygiene and sanitation in creating a stronger, healthier community, while instilling a sense of pride in the people of the remote Niassa province.

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Local lads making good

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Today we meet Estamos, Massukos and the locals of Muita. It's our first gig.

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Massukos are here at the invitation of the traditional leader of Muita, Manuel Aragi , because he knows that an event like Massukos playing on the back of a truck will get a crowd.

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And it did.

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While Massukos are spreading the word of peace, love and clean hands, they also represent Estamos.

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Not only will Massukos play a few tunes, they will also talk to the traditional leader about practical improvements to the way of life here - like toilets, which is lucky cos this bloke is a bit of an expert.

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We are now here in Muita proper, in a pwaro and a guest here of Senior Regulo. Senior Regulo thanks very much for having us here today. Thank you. Oh, agh look out.

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Yes,

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Well there you are, I've just had a traditional hand shake.

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I don't mean to sound disrespectful, but um you seem like a young, a young leader

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Local language

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He's the youngest, he's the youngest regulo

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Really?

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In the district of Mandimba, which is a district in Niassa he's the youngest regulo here

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Ok, so what is your function as leader then of Muita?

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The first function of a regulo is to act as a leader for the community

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Is to educate the community, to exchange information and the regulo also serves a function as an intermediary between the community and the government.

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Ok, cos I also heard today that he's becoming quite famous for his use of the compost toilet, the ecosan toilet and that Muita is possibly leading the way in the world with this technology. Would that be right?

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Manuel was the most inspiring young leader and my flattery was getting me nowhere. Enough of the yak, he wanted to show me the proof of the pudding. So, he took me to the toilet

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Knock knock!

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Oh, here we go.

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How long does it take to turn in to compost?

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Eight months.

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Eight months?

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Eight months.

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That's not long is it? That's not a bad turnover. It has to be... so how deep is the pit?

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One meter and twenty centimetres.

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One meter and twenty centimetres. This is waiting to be dug up as compost?

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Yeah, yeah

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Ok, can we lift the lid... to see... here

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Simple. One meter, twenty centimetres.

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Human waste compost. I'm having real trouble getting my head around this. Considering how many nasties there are in faeces, how is it possible to break this down to a germ-free manageable commodity?

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Chemistry it seems, the correct depth pit, human waste and the magic ingredient ash. Eight months later.....

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compost!

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Well I'll believe it when I see some bloke stick his hand in it

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Human waste, ash, and that bloke stuck his hand in it.

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Eight months in a scientifically correct depth pit and you've got... stuff that makes your pineapples plump.

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Not so much a baptism of fire as a baptism of poo

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Well what a privilege for us, on the other hand the senior regulo, the traditional leader of Muita was also more than happy to show off his modern sanitation techniques. And to give us a tour of his village. He was also most emphatic that for his vision of a latrine in every household, a healthy village to work, community organisations such as Estamos, WaterAid, Metamengue are vital.

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Therefore, our connection, our fortunate connection with Massukos is proving most enlightening. Today we head off for Mandimba to see human waste compost put to its use.

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Oi!

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From Muita to Mandimba, a diversion. The bloke who first stuck his hand in human waste compost was Camilo. He helps Massukos set up remote gigs all over the Mozambique bush. He also works for Estamos. He lives in Mandimba but in his local village 20 miles out, he is conducting an experiment. In his fruit orchard of apple and Massukos trees. He's showing local farmers the proof of the effectiveness of human waste compost on his crops

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Is this an Estamos initiative? Is this your idea?

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Yes, ok, the idea was together.. we was thinking together with WaterAid and Estamos. WaterAid help us to do everything

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Do you just go into the community or do you need to be asked in to the community? How does Estamos...

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Yeah, what we are doing is... you know the first thing what we are doing is to enter in the community we must talk with the traditional leaders. We must talk with the influential people, you know. And then after that we explain what we need to do or how we can do together because this job is not only for Estamos, it not only belong to Estamos and for WaterAid but it belong to the community.

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Yes,

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The other problem I think is that it's very difficult to talk about latrines, you know, when you talk about faeces... it's very difficult

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Indeed, well it's, it's across the board, across the world, I mean humanity has trouble... talking about poo.

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Yes, yes, that's true

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And that's what this documentary is about

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Even to myself

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Me man, I don't, I don't like talking about poo too much. But there are times you just have to and this is the time, because you know this is compost, it was poo once. Poo I'll say it again. Um but not any more. It's a valuable asset to a rural community.

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Lets go and have a walk and have a look. I want to learn more

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Yes, yes I can show you more yeah. Sometimes we take the community to show how they can use the compost

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Right, ok, so there is compost on all this

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Yes on all this plants, but you are going to find now a different thing.

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Between this side which is compost

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Yes and this side we don't have compost we are not putting compost.

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Oh well I can see the difference already

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Yes

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Right and you know that makes sense anywhere to people well if they can see the difference then you know

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Yes yes and because to start to show somebody they can come here, they can see, they can believe, that's very important. Believe. To believe. Believe and trust

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I think this is important for the whole world, because I believe that what's happening here in Niassa is not only important to the local people, but I think it's a very modern concept for the whole planet. You know composting our own waste, you know, we're in a bad way I think, I would say personally we're in a bad way on the planet. And what's happening here is quite innovative and radical and can assist the whole world

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And what we need to introduce now with soul, you know

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Rigour

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yes what we were thinking now is to improve the community agriculture people to use compost to produce tobacco.

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Oh ok

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Because they are losing a lot of money to buy seeds. You can use the money for buy other things. Or for live. You have compost that is really important

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The ecosans are really important. Not only is it providing health for the village and a sanitised area to go and do what must be done but then you can use a product. Oh man.

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That's good.

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Yeah more power to this

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Crickey, we talked serious for an hour. Mozambique is being rebuilt and many conversations I've had with Mozambicans are filled with clever thinking and optimism at this prospect. I'm not even here half a week and already my mind has been opened to new ideas of innovation and sustainability and to a whole new country. Mozambique. I was fast realising how little I really knew about Africa.

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And while I was talking poo, Empty Boat had found an audience. They'd struck up a concert on the side of the road

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Adios adios. Adios.

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Off we go again. Four days. No sleep and feeling no pain.

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Three hours we've been in the back of this ute. Me bums a bit sore but me arms sorer from waving. It's the friendliest place on earth and I mean that.

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Ha ha ha ha, it's a wave fest. Ha ha ha ha. It really does fill your heart with joy. But I tell you what I wouldn't like being here in the heat. That's the thing about Mozambique - six months of the year it's mud. Everything's wet. The other six months, everything's dust. It's hard work Mozambique. Beautiful but hard work.

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That's the band. The band are in the back. And that's Gideon, he plays the tuba. He's waving in a white shirt, he's wearing a tie. It's his birthday today. He's 30. We're going to have a party in Lichinga

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Well we were talking about this actually, that the average life expectancy in Mozambique is 45 for men, so you know that makes me sort of freaking out about reaching 30 really insignificant isn't it?

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Singing Happy Birthday to you.....

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On that note...

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Ok, my chat with Camilo from Estamos is making everything clearer. WaterAid works in partnership with community organisations such as Estamos who in turn work closely with the community. Now if anyone says this is not working, I say, get on your bike....

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I'm on me bike. I'm mobile and I'm heading for the market. Rosaria from WaterAid and our guide for this tour said she's going to show me around cos I'm hunting something down. One of my sporting heros is Maria Matola or Maria Lourdes Matola as she's known in Mozambique, the great 800 metre runner and the women wear these dresses called kapalanas and they are all adorned with a picture of Lourdes Metola and I'm going to get one. Off to Rosaria.

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This morning Rosaria is taking me to the theatre darling. The Olongo dance theatre in the local market. But before that, a spot of shopping. But she would have to pick the busiest day of the week. Where is she, she said she'd be wearing a black cardigan and a microphone

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Agh Rosaria.

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 Lichinga Market

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Ok

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Which way first. I want and this is really honest - I'm not just making this up because I'm in Mozambique - a Lourdes Matola kapalana

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Lets go and see if we can have it.

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Yeah. Cool. And I also need a transistor radio.

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Agh Australia Sydney 2000. Oh yes champione. I think I'm buying this for the Mrs.

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Fifty

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Fifty?

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Yes.

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Agh that is a bargain! That is. I would like two.

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The two.

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And agh discreetly wack out....

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You happy now?

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...one hundred thousand of the ...um... Meticais

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Meticais. Meticais.

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Meticais.

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Oh, I could go mad. Who's that. Is that Michael Owen. No it's Renaldo. Is that Renaldo, I don't think so. Ha ha ha

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Anyway, agh here we go.

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You just want to have a bike and a transistor

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Well, I've got me bike but I feel a bit naked without a radio

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So, ok, lets go.

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I want to listen to RFM

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Lets go, I'll show you.

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Is that RM

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Yeah

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Oh, we can listen to China.

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Oh brilliant. I've never bought so much in a market.

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This, this is a really great market. You could let me loose in here

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What, what is this stuff?

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It's soap.

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Agh soap

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Wash your hands and be healthy, so....

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Exactly. Now cos I've seen a lot of soap, so the message is getting across.

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Wash your hands, be healthy.

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That's the message.

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That's the message.

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Rosaria, what's becoming really clear is that WaterAid is not like an overlord. It's a partnership with  the community.

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Oh yeah.

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You've set something up in the market we're going to see.

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Yep, your going to see Ulongo. Ulongo is our partner and is a drummer group, so they are going to perform certain issues that we have here in Mozambique like HIV, sanitation,hygiene to make people aware of  this kind of problems.

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Fantastic

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Just follow me

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Let's go. I can hear it in the distance.

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Ulongo, a theatre group set up specifically to entertain and educate the peoples of remote Niassa province. Based on Augusto Boal's Theatre of the Oppressed, Ulongo's theatre is raw, didactic and applicable to specific community issues. This performance was arranged wholly for our filming today so luckily we didn't have to chase them in to the bush. The dancing gets the crowd in, then the theatre begins.

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Today's show is about the invisible killers, dysentery, cholera, HIV and how traditional healers can only go so far with their treatment and that more trust must be placed in the doctor in the white coat. Even if his practices do seem a bit weird.

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Agh, keep an eye out for the toilet dance at the end

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Here comes doctor poo with a dunny

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Job's a good'en

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Thank you doctor, now let the toilet dancing begin.

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Improved hygiene behaviour and sanitation lead to better health, which enables the poor to work and earn more to support their families. It's as simple as that.

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Empty Boat are preparing for a gig at Metamengue tomorrow - alone. Massukos can't make it so, Empty Boat have been invited to play instead. They have been asked to carry the torch for Estamos and provide the community concert and forum for the hygiene message. The Poo Tour shifts in to another gear.

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There's something very weird about those zebras.

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Meanwhile, Rosaria and I take a well earned break.

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Aghh, well, here we are Rosaria, we're taking a little moment away from the band just to have a bit of a chat. You've actually had the job of our guide on this tour. And I've noticed on this trip the amazing access we're getting to villages, there's a sort of trust. How does WaterAid achieve this?

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Well, let me start, just to say that WaterAid is an NGO. We are not working directly with communities. The partners we have, they do directly the job with the communities. And what we want is to get these organisations to be sustainable so that they can continue the work they are doing when we leave.

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We are dealing with some of the poorest people in the world here aren't we?

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Yeah we are dealing with the poorest people in the world and you know we are really trying hard. And when I say we. I'm saying WaterAid. I'm saying Estamos and Ulongo. Our partners and those communities.

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Are children dying from bad sanitation?

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Yeah?

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Lots?

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Yeah, lots and if you help them to get better better sanitation, to get safe water, then we can just contribute to upgrade the level of their life

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And it's not an instant fix. This is going to take a long time.

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Yes, it's going to take long. But as I say we will get there. For sure we will get there.

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Bom dia!

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Bom dia!

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We'll get there...

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The farmer's union in Metamengue where we are going, heard about Estamos on the radio. They walked to Lichinga and asked for help. Wells and toilets were installed and now an ongoing relationship has developed whereby they are very interested in the human waste compost for their carrots. You can't keep a good idea down.

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Oi Oi - oh look out they're all running at the car

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Bom dia! Bom dia!

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Jeez that would have been a long ride for that bloke. I'm glad we could give him a lift.

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Here we are, Metamengue. Metamengue!

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As the utility vans of love entered town, we knew we were making history in this little village today. We guessed that not many London bands had played this gig.

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And once again, the village erupted into song.

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Unfortunately, I'm going to miss this gig as the traditional leaders of Metamengue are keen for us to be part in an important meeting with a visiting government official. Rude to say no!

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Empty Boat had travelled thousands of miles on a poo discovery tour and now their audience awaited. We love you Metamengue.

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Yes, yes, was there a problem here with hygiene. Is there.. people getting sick. Is that the reason they got ill

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The traditional leaders proceeded to fill me in on their history with Estamos. Before 2000, this village was without water. Now they have five wells. Five clean water points within their village. This has already improved dramatically the way of life here. I then asked if they had heard of the ecosan, human waste compost toilets and as a farmers union surely this would interest them. Of course they said but with the cost of the crucial concrete slab being twenty quid, it was way out of their price bracket. Finally we were getting to the nub of it. In one of the poorest economies in the world, twenty quid for a toilet was a fortune. The problem and the solution was becoming embarrassingly clear. That our money in the right place would make all the difference.

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Delightful. Delightful audience. Just a privilege to be able to play here. Beautiful.

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There's always a lot of smiling at our arrival, a sense of celebration and music, but looking around with the level of HIV sufferers in this village alone totalling 40%, there is a sense of despair and grief always evident under the surface. And personally I felt a great unease at being a visitor from a developed world that lets this happen.

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10:33:48

Well, we leave Metamengue and what a gig that was out in the middle of the African bush. We spoke to the local Senior regulo, the farmer's association and all they want is clean water, latrines and for their kids to have fun. What one has to keep reminding oneself is that we are actually in one of the poorest economies in the world but there is so much laughter and fun going on here, you sort of forget. But basic things like just a smoke, agh, you know, an exercise book, things like that, they just don't have them. And it's hard, it's hard for us to get our heads around it cos we come in like Apocolypse Now, we've got our gear and batteries. These little kids they've got a dead battery before and it was like gold dust. So, getting a handle on it. See you later.

dialogue

10:34:39

10:34:54

Ok, paramount for hygiene is clean and sustainable water points in the village. To be sustainable, they must be appropriate to local conditions, affordable and chosen and built by local communities. I'm here at the Lichinga water pump factory.

Voice over

10:35:08

10:35:07

So, Jakesh, can you tell us what we are looking at here?

dialogue

10:35:10

10:35:10

This is a, this is a rope pump. Everything you see here is found, is found here.

dialogue

10:35:15

10:35:15

Cos that's the definition of sustainable isn't it, is that if something, if something breaks it can be fixed. Cos we are dealing with really poor, poor communities here aren't we.

dialogue

10:35:23

10:35:23

Now one thing I've noticed about these is this - it's got a lid.

dialogue

10:35:27

10:35:27

Yes, this covers it so basically the idea is that we don't want anything getting in to the water supply. So, this covers everything.

dialogue

10:35:35

10:35:40

Water, the elixir of life and death if you're not careful.

Voice over

10:35:46

10:35:48

It seems that the women do a lot of work when it comes to collecting the water, looking after the kids.

dialogue

10:35:55

10:35:55

In Mozambique, the women are responsible for the well being of all the family. As such, they have to do all the work, which is related to the wellbeing of the family. And one of the things they have to do is to have water at home... to look after the kids, ug.. sometimes they have to do a little business to get some money

dialogue

10:36:24

10:36:24

Cos I've seen the women walking um... to the market, they've got incredible loads on their heads, which is another thing altogether. I don't know how they do that.

dialogue

10:36:30

10:36:30

And that's normal. If we provide water near the houses so women can have more time to look after their kids and at the same time we are providing hygiene education so that they can take care better of them.

dialogue

10:36:50

10:36:50

Right. Ever since I've been a little kid and watched pictures of Africa on the telly and stuff, I've always been fascinated by people with - well women usually - walking with this thing on their head, and balance it. I was wondering, do you think they'd let me actually see how heavy a bucket is and put it on my head.

dialogue

10:37:06

10:37:05

Yes, do you want to try.

dialogue

10:37:07

10:37:06

I, I need to try

dialogue