SCOTLAND –

Lockerbie: Waiting for Justice

 

13 minutes 33

December 1998

 

An EO production for 2 Vandaag

 

 

 

Father J. Mosey

Father J. Mosey: I can say I forgive these people who murdered my daughter, but of course unless they repent and apologise and receive that forgiveness it doesn't do them any good at all. Music

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Shot of tomb stones

Music.

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Picture of Helga - pan to J. Mosey

J. Mosey: Helga, she was 19 and a very bubbly and lively young lady, she was a very committed Christian.

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Driving through country side

J. Mosey: She had been home for one week, by the way, from America. I had taken her down to Heathrow. I kissed her goodbye and said "Don't forget to call your mum before you board the plane"

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Shot of Pan Am Plane

J. Mosey: I got back home, had some supper and then the phone rang and it was an old widow lady from our church and she said "Pastor, did Helga get away alright?"

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J. Mosey

J. Mosey: And I said “yes Winnie thanks very much, Why?”

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J. Mosey: well she said, "because there has been an Aeroplane that's crashed in Scotland”.

 

Shot of burning homes

J. Mosey: And I turned on the Television. I called my wife and son and there was a news flash five to nine that, pictures of Lockerbie in flames, and then they said that Pan Am flight 103,

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 J. Mosey

J. Mosey: and my wife straight away said, "that's Helga's plane". And our son was saying "NO NO NO NO". And my wife was just saying "Helga Helga Helga". The time that her little girl needed her most she wasn't able to be there. And I stood there and there were no words coming at all.

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Shot of cemetery gates - M. Kerr walking through cemetery

M. Kerr (citizen of Lockerbie): The first areas that we found that showed it was an airliner was the empty containers, food containers, plastic, knifes, forks, spoons. Bread rolls, these were lying about. My nephew found a passport. You go and find, first of all where your family is.  By the time we got down to Wage street the police had actually evacuated all the people that were near the site.

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Shot of M. Kerr in neck brace

M. Kerr: There wasn't very much you could do. The first victims that I saw, the first victim I saw we checked to see if there was a pulse but they were obviously dead.

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Shot of files - pan to David Ben-Aryeah on phone

Telephone ringing.

V/O David Ben-Aryeah: My pager went off and it said ‘major incident’. I walked into the centre of Lockerbie and I kicked something. I looked down and it was a piece of metal. The overall smell was of aviation spirit, of aviation fuel burning.

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Shot of David Ben-Aryeah

 

 

Shot of helicopter

David Ben-Aryeah: The sound of helicopters rotating over the houses trying to find out what was going on, trying to recover bodies.

Groups of local people standing just stunned. They would have given their lives to help survivors but there was nobody to survive. They didn't know what had happened. They had no comprehension as to what had happened. It was total and utter chaos. Music.

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Shot of houses

Music.

Ten years after, the truth about the bomb outrage is still unknown.

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David Ben-Aryeah

David Ben-Aryeah: the truth for there are only two truths about Lockerbie right now; there was a bomb, it exploded, and in fact a third truth, 270 people died. Other than that it's all supposition.

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Dutch interviewer: That's not much after almost 10 years.

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David Ben-Aryeah: Ten years and 17 million dollars

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Shot of wreckage

David Ben-Aryeah: They deserve better

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People taking bodies away

 

Libyan Men

 

Initially, the bomb outrage was ascribed to Iran. Then, three years later, in 1991, two Libyans were pointed out as suspects. As a result, international sanctions were imposed upon Libya. The two suspects consulted the Scottish criminal lawyer Alister Duff.

 

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Shot of shops

 

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Alister Duff – Lawyer for accused - at desk

V/O Alister Duff: There are no particularly odd ethical considerations associated with this case. In a sense it’s a normal case.

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Alister Duff

Alister Duff: I act for the two clients, Mr Megrahi, Mr Fhimah. I give them advice.

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Dutch Interviewer: When they offered you the case how long did you have to think about it to accept it.

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Alister Duff: Well, I didn't have to think about it at all to accept it. I wasn't given any length of time to make my mind up. There was never any question, having been asked to become involved in the case, there was never any question but that I would.

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American Press Officer at podium

(Dutch subtitles)

American Press Officer: We charge that two Libya officials, acting as operatives of the Libyan intelligence service, planted and detonated the bomb that destroyed PanAm flight 103.

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Alister Duff

Alister Duff: To be honest the most that I can say is that both of them deny any involvement in the Lockerbie bombing, both of them deny that they have ever been members of the Libyan intelligence services.

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Wreckage

V/O: How can it be that the plane was only 2/3 full during the disaster, if it was expected to be full two weeks before the bomb blast? It turns out that VIP's were taken away from the plane.

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David Ben-Aryeah at desk

David Ben-Aryeah: Embassy wise I have details of at least ten. There was a very explicit one of the bulletin board of the American board in Moscow which advised people from travelling on Pan Am from Frankfurt to America over the period of the 21st December.

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Pan Am flight taking off

V/O: In the memo, dated December 13th 1988, drafted by the American government, to all the embassy personnel, the bomb blast on a PanAm plane from Frankfurt to the United States is announced. Therefore they are advised not to fly with this Airline company. The Scottish member of parliament MP Tam Dalyell thinks the truth about this case of with holding these warnings, should come out.

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MP Tam Dalyell Looking over water

 

 

MP Tam Dalyell

MP Tam Dalyell: Can you imagine the reaction in the United States and the public opinion there if they had learnt that there was sufficient knowledge to pull very important people off the plane from the Moscow embassy and let the kids travel to their death?

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Father J Mosey

J Mosey: The coping is on a day to day basis. There were bad days and there still are, occasionally not so often now. But there were bad days, we struggled the same as anyone else. It has effected me more emotionally.

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J Mosey in chair

J Mosey: You know I had a little bit of, not a full blown breakdown, but a couple of years ago situations arose that I couldn't handle, that I normally would have handled and I had to take a break from my church. But we feel God has helped us marvellously to be positive in it all.

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Man and Woman signing papers

 

 

 Netherlands (Last week, 30 September, 1998)

V/O: Last September, the Dutch minister of Foreign Affairs Van Aartsen, signed an agreement with Great Britain to let the case against the two Libyans take place on the former American airbase in Soest, The Netherlands. The Libyans are not to blame for the fact it took so long, says Robert Black. In 1993 he already advised to proceed the case in another country, preferably the Netherlands. And under Scottish law. Last week, Black had another meeting with Colonel Gaddafi.

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Robert Black

Robert Black: May I say that Colonel Gaddafi said to me in our meeting that if the Libyans had been convinced that the scheme for trial in The Netherlands was a genuine scheme, not one which had been designed deliberately with pit falls in it for his government and his citizens, these two men would already be en route to Holland. These were his very words and he said them in English "they would today be en route to Holland".

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Sign - Visitors

V/O: (Today, 10 September 1998) Last September, Libya announced not to agree with the choice for Soesterberg. Libya fears that the suspects will be extradited to Scotland or the United States, in spite of the treaty.

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Robert Black

Robert Black: Once these people arrive in the Netherlands, what is to prevent Britain and The Netherlands saying "ah, we will alter this agreement and provide for their extradition to the United States or to Scotland itself. Now you may say, of course the British government and the Dutch government would not be so underhand, they would not dream of doing such a thing. You may think that, I think that. Colonel Gaddafi has no such confidence in my government or in your government. And what he wants is that possibility to be excluded in the treaty, and I must say it doesn't seem to me to be an unreasonable thing to ask.

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Shots of crowds

V/O: Another objection for the Libyan leader Gaddafi, is the fact that the Americans turn out to have relations with Soesterberg. There is a treaty that says they can use the airbase 4 weeks a year. Above that they can station 2 fighter squadrons in times of crisis.

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Soldiers at barracks

Robert Black: There is still of course a worry about a hit squad or perhaps a snatch team coming in but the

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Robert Black

Robert Black: airfield solution seemed to be a very neat solution to that particular problem.

Dutch: Initially.

Robert Black: Initially that's right, as you know certain difficulties over that scheme have now arisen, particularly over the fact that there is a small, but nevertheless, continuing American link to that base.

 

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Shot of statue

Bells Ringing. In the meantime, here in Scotland, no one thinks that the case against the Libyan suspects will lead anywhere.

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Supreme court and MP Dalyell

MP Dalyell: The case that they claim is watertight, the crown office the legal department in Edinburgh claim that they have doesn't exist in the form that they claim to have. And my suspicions have been for a long time that the last thing people in British and America, certainly the legal department in Edinburgh want, is any kind of a trial because the poverty of their evidence would be exposed.

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Sky, pan to tree to grave stone

Music.

J. Mosey: The nearest we have come to anger is with our western governments. We know terrorists put bombs on planes, that's what they do.

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J. Mosey

J. Mosey: It's not good, it's not right but that's what they do.

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Gravestone

But we do expect some higher level of integrity from our governments, and we haven't had it.

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END

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