ENGLISH TRANSLATION OF STORM IN THE ANDES 101 MINUTES

(VO INCLUDED )




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Stockholm 1990. Me, at a demonstration

in support of the revolution in Peru.


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When I was a child my Peruvian father

often spoke about his sister Augusta.


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She was the heroine

who started a revolution for the poor in Peru.


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They were called 'Sendero Luminoso'

- 'The Shining Path'


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It sounded like an exiting fairy tale.


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Augusta married Abimael Guzman,

the leader of 'Shining Path'...


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...at my grandparent's house

in Ayacucho in the Andes.


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Together they started

an armed insurgency in 1980.


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Abimael was called 'president Gonzalo'.


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'President Gonzalo is the leader

bringing victory to the peoples of the world.'


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/tc 00:02:50:13 00:02:53:07

Dad...


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You didn't want me to make this journey.


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But I want to know the truth

and I understand it is not a fairy tale.


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Are you afraid...that I won't be as loyal

to Sendero and Abimael as the rest of the family?


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/tc 00:04:51:06 00:04:55:19

Dad.

Why don't you trust me?


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/tc 00:04:56:19 00:05:03:00

I want to understand

why your sister started a war.


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/tc 00:05:33:12 00:05:38:22

Augusta is my relative.

She is my aunt.


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/tc 00:05:39:09 00:05:43:20

Your grandfather wrote

me a very beautiful letter.


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He wrote that he longed for Peru.


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-Once he sent me a photo.

-Of your family.


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/tc 00:05:56:23 00:06:02:18

Oh, it's my mother,

and my father.


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/tc 00:06:03:20 00:06:08:04

He longed for Peru.


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/tc 00:06:10:07 00:06:15:09

It's nearly thirty years

since they left Peru.


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/tc 00:06:17:24 00:06:21:10

I hope this does not happen again.


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It was terrible.

Everyone accused each other.


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People informed on each other

and the army came without forewarning.


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/tc 00:06:33:24 00:06:39:12

-And your family suffered?

-Very much so.


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Two of my brothers were jailed

accused of belonging to Sendero.


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They threatened to throw them from a helicopter...

if they didn't tell the truth.


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/tc 00:06:56:13 00:07:00:13

They knew nothing.

They were not involved.


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/tc 00:07:01:08 00:07:08:12

They beat them up and drowned them in water.

My brother Mario died as a consequence.


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This happened here in Ayacucho.


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/tc 00:07:22:22 00:07:28:13

-And how is your grandmother Delia?

-She is fine.


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/tc 00:07:30:13 00:07:35:04

But she would like to have some of

Augusta's belongings.


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/tc 00:07:35:18 00:07:40:20

Her belongings?

That will be difficult. Who would give you?


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/tc 00:07:40:23 00:07:45:23

They will never give you.


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/tc 00:07:52:15 00:07:59:24

Granma wants to know how Augusta died

and where Abimael buried her.


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In a locked glass case the intelligence services

keep a few of Augusta's belongings.


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A plastic rose.


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A wig.


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A wallet.


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"Gifts and personal objects of the terrorist

Augusta La Torre Carrasco..."


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"...alias comrade Norah."


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/tc 00:08:38:07 00:08:41:01

My aunt.


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'...taking on the heroic resistance offering our life,

for the party and the revolution...'


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/tc 00:08:57:08 00:09:04:18

They had a dream of equal rights

for everyone in this country.


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/tc 00:09:05:10 00:09:10:01

But the dream turned

into a terrible nightmare.


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/tc 00:09:17:10 00:09:22:00

IS EVERYTHING LOST FOR PERU?


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/tc 00:09:22:20 00:09:27:06

Sendero Luminoso initiated a civil war

that lasted 20 years.


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/tc 00:09:27:11 00:09:33:02

It brought Peru

close to total collapse.


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/tc 00:09:37:15 00:09:45:21

Security forces found the picture of Abimael

at the wake of Augusta in a Sendero hideout.


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/tc 00:09:57:08 00:10:04:10

Ever since his arrest in 1992

Abimael has refused to tell how Augusta died...


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...and where the body is buried.


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/tc 00:10:07:24 00:10:13:00

Not even grandmother gets to know.


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/tc 00:10:15:15 00:10:20:08

My father is Peruvian, from Ayacucho.

And all my family are in Sweden.


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/tc 00:10:20:12 00:10:25:01

-And he is brother of Augusta.

-I know.


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/tc 00:10:25:12 00:10:28:08

-Is he younger than Sacha?

-Yes.


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/tc 00:10:28:10 00:10:31:01

I was a good friend of Sacha.


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/tc 00:10:31:07 00:10:37:18

We made protest posters

together in the house of your grandfather.


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/tc 00:10:39:14 00:10:42:11

And Augusta...


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/tc 00:10:43:03 00:10:45:20

...what a rare beauty!


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/tc 00:10:45:24 00:10:53:22

Passionate, honest...

without any trace of hypocrisy.


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/tc 00:10:54:06 00:10:59:12

She was always outspoken:

'But Carlos , what's up!'


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/tc 00:10:59:18 00:11:03:15

Right in the street!


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/tc 00:11:04:00 00:11:11:14

I think she became subordinated

to this aristocratic person...


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/tc 00:11:12:01 00:11:21:14

...who wanted to be admired, so typical

of the old Ayacucho aristocracy.


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/tc 00:11:23:02 00:11:29:20

Augusta used to

walk slightly behind Abimael.


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/tc 00:11:30:15 00:11:33:12

In the street.

Like this.


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/tc 00:11:42:01 00:11:44:10

Dad...


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/tc 00:11:44:14 00:11:48:11

I have asked you so many times...


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...what really happened here in Ayacucho.

But you never answered.


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/tc 00:11:59:20 00:12:05:02

I started searching

for the answers on my own.


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/tc 00:12:06:03 00:12:11:05

I got in touch with a photographer

who had worked a long time in Peru.


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/tc 00:12:17:17 00:12:25:01

He had documented the life of the Andean peasants

in the seventies, before the war.


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/tc 00:12:31:17 00:12:37:15

He had returned with his camera

and the pictures from 40 years ago.


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/tc 00:12:39:08 00:12:46:22

-Do you remember who took the photos?

-That man.


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/tc 00:12:47:10 00:12:52:12

-He was young then. How is he now?

-Like us.


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/tc 00:12:53:15 00:12:58:24

We will take several pictures.

Also with me in it.


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/tc 00:13:05:12 00:13:08:20

After so many years!!


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/tc 00:13:09:04 00:13:15:07

He asked me to come to Peru and meet Flor,

who grew up there during the war.


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Like me she was looking for the answers

to the riddles of her childhood.


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/tc 00:13:21:09 00:13:25:22

-And here you are!

-Certainly.


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/tc 00:13:27:19 00:13:31:04

-There is my dad.

-Imagine.


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/tc 00:13:31:15 00:13:36:00

Peasant leader.


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/tc 00:13:36:13 00:13:39:15

You were so young daddy!


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/tc 00:13:45:21 00:13:51:10

That was how I came to Peru

for the first time.


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/tc 00:13:53:16 00:14:00:09

Like thousands of others the family of Flor

escaped the terror in the Andes...


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/tc 00:14:01:02 00:14:07:21

...to the slums in Lima.


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/tc 00:14:26:04 00:14:32:12

When I arrive in Lima I am told

that Flor does not really want to see me.


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/tc 00:14:35:18 00:14:42:07

She believes

that my family started the war.


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/tc 00:14:45:08 00:14:51:18

I feel as if I am carrying everything

my family has tried to hide.


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/tc 00:14:53:05 00:14:55:24

I am afraid.


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/tc 00:14:57:07 00:15:01:12

-Here comes Josefin.

-Hi.


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/tc 00:15:04:12 00:15:06:08

So this is her?


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/tc 00:15:06:23 00:15:13:00

-Flor, I have something for you.

-Oh, thank you.


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/tc 00:15:18:01 00:15:24:02

-Her name is Josefin. Say hello.

-I had a similar sweater when I was a kid.


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/tc 00:15:24:22 00:15:29:01

May I present Josefin.


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/tc 00:15:29:14 00:15:33:22

And this is Samuel,

the source of all this.


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/tc 00:15:34:10 00:15:36:24

So your mother is Swedish.


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/tc 00:15:37:03 00:15:41:04

-Nice!!

-So you liked it?


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/tc 00:15:41:17 00:15:45:11

Yes, a French perfume!


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/tc 00:15:49:08 00:15:54:14

Finally we have to start talking

about the inevitable.


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/tc 00:15:55:03 00:16:00:15

Mikael told us about you...

and your background.


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/tc 00:16:01:03 00:16:07:19

I was dubious about all this at first.

No, no and no!


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/tc 00:16:08:11 00:16:12:24

Why?

Because in one way or another, not you but...


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/tc 00:16:13:08 00:16:17:17

...your father's family.


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/tc 00:16:17:23 00:16:22:15

Has a political responsibility for all this.


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/tc 00:16:22:23 00:16:31:20

They involved thousands of young people

in a confused attempt at revolution...


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Thousands died as a consequence.

And he was one of them.


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/tc 00:16:38:05 00:16:43:08

We only lost one child but there are

families who lost all their children.


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/tc 00:16:43:11 00:16:49:05

And Abimael is directly responsible

for what happened.


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And evidently those around him.

In this case his wife.


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I am not in Peru to defend Sendero.

I am here to understand what happened...


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/tc 00:17:18:20 00:17:20:16

And why?


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/tc 00:17:21:07 00:17:27:08

I came with fresh eyes.

I don't know a lot...


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/tc 00:17:28:18 00:17:35:08

...about your reality.


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/tc 00:17:36:00 00:17:40:08

But I am here to understand.


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/tc 00:17:40:22 00:17:44:07

I say...


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/tc 00:17:45:00 00:17:51:00

...they misled the revolution.

They themselves...


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/tc 00:17:51:07 00:17:57:11

But the error is of the party.

The leadership of the party.


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/tc 00:17:57:20 00:18:04:13

When Sendero was repressed

it was the population that suffered the violence


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/tc 00:18:06:22 00:18:12:23

Claudio is a result of that.

He died...or disappeared...


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And until this day we only have the photo.


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/tc 00:18:25:17 00:18:31:19

Flor ir ceaselessly trying to find out

the truth about her disappeared brother.


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/tc 00:18:32:10 00:18:37:17

She was the last

of her family to see Claudio.


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/tc 00:18:38:09 00:18:41:23

She was only eight

when he disappeared.


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/tc 00:18:42:24 00:18:49:04

Claudio started studying literature.

Politics were all around.


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/tc 00:18:49:21 00:18:56:04

The police often

intervened at the University.


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/tc 00:18:57:05 00:19:04:13

Claudio was arrested in march 1986.

He was accused of belonging to Sendero.


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Another story.


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/tc 00:19:13:19 00:19:18:00

Flor does not believe

the accusation against Claudio.


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Reading manuscripts he left behind

she tries to understand what happened.


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"Inside him a feeling

of compassion came alive."


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/tc 00:19:32:24 00:19:37:24

"With those who suffered.

With the people of the land."


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/tc 00:19:38:04 00:19:44:20

"And so the words of his father

started to grow in his mind."


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/tc 00:19:45:16 00:19:47:06

Claudio.


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/tc 00:19:52:14 00:19:59:24

Claudio.

With Dad, when he was still young.


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/tc 00:20:00:01 00:20:03:09

My son became a student.


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/tc 00:20:03:14 00:20:11:13

He was the first person from the village

to enter university.


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/tc 00:20:12:01 00:20:15:17

My son was intelligent.

Intelligent and tender.


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/tc 00:20:15:23 00:20:22:12

He liked to write poetry.

He also wrote poetry to me.


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Here is the manuscript of

"Tales of two kingdoms". Short stories...


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...that finally were published.


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/tc 00:20:36:06 00:20:44:09

'For Samuel and Simeona,

who taught me never to bow to anyone.'


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/tc 00:20:45:15 00:20:48:21

And that is true.


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/tc 00:20:59:06 00:21:04:11

Claudio left his words behind.


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/tc 00:21:04:19 00:21:10:08

Augusta left only silence

and a few images.


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/tc 00:21:11:02 00:21:15:08

Here are photos

from the archive of my father.


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/tc 00:21:15:22 00:21:21:04

My father photographed

the middle- and upper classes.


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Poor people seldom had their photo taken.

But these people had probably saved money...


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/tc 00:21:31:19 00:21:38:21

I find the man who photographed

the wedding of Augusta and Abimael.


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Your aunt Augusta visited the photo studio...


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/tc 00:21:55:18 00:22:00:18

...to have her picture taken for official use.


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/tc 00:22:00:24 00:22:07:19

I remember her as a women who

could have earned status and prestige.


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/tc 00:22:07:23 00:22:13:06

She was a women

who had a great social conscience.


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And in Ayacucho there were hard times

with deep social inequality.


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/tc 00:22:18:18 00:22:26:01

Nevertheless we were greatly surprised

by her transforamtion when she married Abimael Guzman.


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They went the violent way

wanting to change Peru by force...


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This is definitely the last photo that was taken.

1973 or -74.


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/tc 00:22:43:03 00:22:47:22

In 1975 they went underground.


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/tc 00:22:48:04 00:22:52:07

And were never again seen in public.


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/tc 00:22:53:16 00:22:58:09

Long live the Communist Party of Peru!


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/tc 00:22:58:18 00:23:05:02

Senedero started the insurgency

in the Andes in 1980.


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/tc 00:23:05:09 00:23:11:07

The army was sent to the mountains

to crush the uprising.


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They made no difference

between the guilty and the innocent.


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/tc 00:23:25:03 00:23:31:20

A reign of terror

descended on the Andes.


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/tc 00:23:42:10 00:23:48:18

Sendero retaliated brutally

and killed many innocents.


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/tc 00:23:48:21 00:23:53:21

This is how exploiters and informers die.

Long live the People's War!


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/tc 00:26:13:11 00:26:19:03

I am in an interview.

I call you when I am ready.


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/tc 00:26:20:03 00:26:25:20

It's great that you have come to Peru

and talked to people.


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/tc 00:26:25:13 00:26:28:08

I am sure it's been

good for people to talk to you.


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/tc 00:26:29:21 00:26:36:17

I get the impression that it is

hard for you to be here.


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/tc 00:26:37:19 00:26:41:12

Yes, it's hard...

I feel that I am carrying it all by myself.


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/tc 00:26:41:17 00:26:45:23

I understand my father and my uncles...


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/tc 00:26:46:05 00:26:51:17

I am here to do something

they can't do.


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/tc 00:26:54:15 00:26:57:03

That's why...


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/tc 00:27:08:13 00:27:14:10

Dad.

You are avoiding my questions.


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/tc 00:27:14:20 00:27:19:05

You don't want to

be in this film.


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/tc 00:27:21:05 00:27:26:05

You deny what I tell

you about Peru.


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/tc 00:27:28:09 00:27:36:05

What version have your family told you

about what happened here in Peru?


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/tc 00:27:37:00 00:27:43:23

For my family...the revolution

and what happened in Peru is also a wound.


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/tc 00:27:44:04 00:27:50:18

It is also something

we don't talk a lot about, because...


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/tc 00:27:51:13 00:27:59:06

Ever since I was a child I wanted to know

what happened in Peru and with Augusta.


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/tc 00:28:00:18 00:28:05:00

Maybe truth hurts...


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/tc 00:28:05:20 00:28:14:03

Because she was part of

the armed struggle they initiated.


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/tc 00:28:14:07 00:28:20:18

-She participated...

-She was second in command after Abimal.


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/tc 00:28:23:22 00:28:30:24

We are opening the deepest wound of Peru.

They want to keep it hidden.


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/tc 00:28:31:04 00:28:40:17

They want to hide the wound

although it is not healed at all.


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/tc 00:28:41:02 00:28:45:11

I am sorry that you too have been hurt.


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/tc 00:28:45:16 00:28:53:18

Maybe you have never shared

the opinions of the aunt you never met.


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/tc 00:28:54:23 00:29:01:00

Augusta was also a daughter, a sister...

I don't understand...


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/tc 00:29:01:12 00:29:06:09

...since I don't live with these things.

I live in Sweden.


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/tc 00:29:06:19 00:29:14:14

I never experienced a civil war,

an armed struggle, a peoples war...


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/tc 00:29:21:17 00:29:28:09

Dad.

Down in the valley lies the estate Iribamba.


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/tc 00:29:28:13 00:29:33:04

That is where you grew up

together with Augusta.


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/tc 00:29:33:08 00:29:37:03

Everyone describes it as paradise.


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Now it is abandoned and destroyed

from the war started by Abimael and Augusta.


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/tc 00:29:49:19 00:29:56:21

Your ancestors were friends of my grandmother

so we always visited during vacations.


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/tc 00:29:57:21 00:30:04:18

Over there were the orange trees

and we ate as much as we could.


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/tc 00:30:05:08 00:30:10:16

The oranges were sweet as honey.


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/tc 00:30:13:00 00:30:23:04

Augusta and I were the youngest

and in the evenings we played 'zampay'.


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/tc 00:30:23:14 00:30:27:04

-'Zampay'?

-Hide and seek.


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/tc 00:30:39:05 00:30:44:11

-How was life in Iribamba?

-It was a rich life.


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They had everything

in abundance because there...


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/tc 00:30:49:11 00:30:55:23

...people worked

at the command of the landlord...


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/tc 00:30:56:08 00:31:01:01

...the masters of the land,

your grandfathers.


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/tc 00:31:01:13 00:31:05:23

Even your great grandfathers.


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/tc 00:31:06:04 00:31:09:17

We are family!


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/tc 00:31:10:03 00:31:14:00

After supper the adults talked.


/file 0210

/tc 00:31:14:08 00:31:21:16

Augusta and I were the minors

so we should not talk, only listen...


/file 0211

/tc 00:31:22:02 00:31:27:19

...to the Stalinist and reformist

discussions of the adults.


/file 0212

/tc 00:31:27:24 00:31:32:06

So there were frequent debates?


/file 0213

/tc 00:31:32:12 00:31:36:24

Family discussions.


/file 0214

/tc 00:31:37:09 00:31:42:24

Once my father told your great grandmother

to give away the land if she was a communist.


/file 0215

/tc 00:31:43:05 00:31:51:18

'No Don David, don't touch what is mine!'

That's some communism.


/file 0216

/tc 00:31:56:06 00:32:04:04

-How was Augusta.

-Cheerful and rather straightforward.


/file 0217

/tc 00:32:04:12 00:32:08:08

She taught us to understand

the world around us.


/file 0218

/tc 00:32:08:14 00:32:13:05

She liked our family,

especially my father.


/file 0219

/tc 00:32:13:18 00:32:17:05

All of us spoke Quechua.


/file 0220

/tc 00:32:17:15 00:32:23:05

And she was delighted

'How great, you all speak Quechua!'


/file 0221

/tc 00:32:23:09 00:32:30:15

She taught us

to appreciate our roots.


/file 0222

/tc 00:32:32:08 00:32:40:09

How is it possible that Augusta

who grew up here joined Sendero?


/file 0223

/tc 00:32:42:17 00:32:51:01

I think she was affected

by the inequalities she saw.


/file 0224

/tc 00:32:51:13 00:32:56:12

The difference between

those who had and those who didn't.


/file 0225

/tc 00:32:56:22 00:33:02:19

Then she entered

the school of the nuns.


/file 0226

/tc 00:33:02:23 00:33:09:10

And she became the

spokesperson of the students.


/file 0227

/tc 00:33:10:11 00:33:17:14

So she had a certain formation

that was completed when Abimael...


/file 0228

/tc 00:33:18:05 00:33:21:11

...rented a room in the house.


/file 0229

/tc 00:33:21:15 00:33:26:08

She shared her ideas

about the classes with Abimael.


/file 0230

/tc 00:33:26:11 00:33:34:04

-But she had those ideas before meeting Abimael.

-She had them, but they were dormant.


/file 0231

/tc 00:33:34:16 00:33:42:09

To me, she was

the brain of the organisation.


/file 0232

/tc 00:33:43:00 00:33:49:22

Abimael never spent time

in the countryside. He stayed at the university.


/file 0233

/tc 00:33:54:06 00:34:00:05

It must have been in 1982.

The last time I saw her.


/file 0234

/tc 00:34:01:12 00:34:05:15

Disguised as a peasant woman.


/file 0235

/tc 00:34:35:24 00:34:44:10

Flor and I don't say much on the long trip

to the village were she and Claudio were born.


/file 0236

/tc 00:34:45:20 00:34:52:10

Does she think that it was Augusta

who brought the war to her village?


/file 0237

/tc 00:35:07:17 00:35:13:04

The family of Flor

escaped the village during the war.


/file 0238

/tc 00:35:13:06 00:35:16:00

I can't!

OK, carry.


/file 0239

/tc 00:35:17:20 00:35:26:00

But her parents always return

to the land that cost them so much.


/file 0240

/tc 00:35:32:17 00:35:35:02

Help me!


/file 0241

/tc 00:35:35:20 00:35:39:14

You won't make it.


/file 0242

/tc 00:35:40:12 00:35:44:11

-Mother I can't!

-Hurry up.


/file 0243

/tc 00:35:52:24 00:35:56:24

Take it away.


/file 0244

/tc 00:36:00:24 00:36:06:01

I am no good at carrying.


/file 0245

/tc 00:36:27:08 00:36:29:23

Claudio...


/file 0246

/tc 00:36:30:12 00:36:32:24

...and Augusta.


/file 0247

/tc 00:36:33:11 00:36:40:10

Two names that unite us

but also creates an abyss between us.


/file 0248

/tc 00:36:44:02 00:36:50:07

Claudio was the son of a poor peasant

fighting for the right to his land.


/file 0249

/tc 00:36:52:01 00:36:57:07

Augusta was the daughter

of a communist landlord.


/file 0250

/tc 00:36:57:16 00:36:59:07

My grandfather.


/file 0251

/tc 00:37:09:16 00:37:13:03

Let me talk to your mother.


/file 0252

/tc 00:37:13:11 00:37:18:22

We are at the height of Churapayana

going to Huancane.


/file 0253

/tc 00:37:19:21 00:37:24:15

I just wanted to check

if the cell phone worked here.


/file 0254

/tc 00:37:30:05 00:37:35:05

It worked!

First time it works.


/file 0255

/tc 00:37:37:04 00:37:45:04

I also worked the land up there.

On your uncle Genaro's land, up there.


/file 0256

/tc 00:37:47:11 00:37:52:19

Claudio wanted to

write about it all, didn't he?


/file 0257

/tc 00:37:53:05 00:37:59:23

-He participated in the land occupations like all kids.

-Yes he did.


/file 0258

/tc 00:38:00:10 00:38:09:15

But then he goes to Lima

and gets influenced by ideologies.


/file 0259

/tc 00:38:09:19 00:38:14:20

But he didn't want to

get involved, he...


/file 0260

/tc 00:38:15:00 00:38:20:05

...wanted to write.


/file 0261

/tc 00:38:21:05 00:38:26:21

He always argued against exploitation,

and the conditions of the peasants.


/file 0262

/tc 00:38:27:00 00:38:31:00

He also experienced part of it.


/file 0263

/tc 00:38:32:11 00:38:39:18

'They only remember us at election time

when they come to buy our votes, said his father.'


/file 0264

/tc 00:38:40:20 00:38:48:11

'It was the truth.

In this area there were no doctors. Nothing.'


/file 0265

/tc 00:38:50:18 00:38:56:21

'When people protested,

soldiers were sent to crush them.'


/file 0266

/tc 00:38:58:03 00:39:02:02

'That was what governement was.'


/file 0267

/tc 00:39:11:18 00:39:20:14

Claudio writes about an oppression

going on since the Spanish conquest.


/file 0268

/tc 00:39:26:02 00:39:31:22

Four hundred years ago, the eyewitness

Guaman Poma documented the fall of the Incas...


/file 0269

/tc 00:39:32:03 00:39:36:19

...in a handwritten book.


/file 0270

/tc 00:39:37:11 00:39:44:18

He tells about a civilisation

extending over large parts of the Andes.


/file 0271

/tc 00:39:45:05 00:39:52:14

There were grand constructions,

roads, bridges and planned farming.


/file 0272

/tc 00:39:53:07 00:40:02:05

Everything was organized to survive for centuries.


/file 0273

/tc 00:40:13:20 00:40:19:19

'Legislation of the Incas.'


/file 0274

/tc 00:40:21:05 00:40:25:22

'We command an abundance

of food in the kingdom.'


/file 0275

/tc 00:40:26:02 00:40:31:02

'Lots of corn, potatoes

and ocas should be planted.'


/file 0276

/tc 00:40:31:07 00:40:38:02

'So that there will be enough

to eat all the year around.'


/file 0277

/tc 00:40:39:24 00:40:45:11

Guaman Poma describes

a kingdom that is doomed.


/file 0278

/tc 00:40:47:12 00:40:54:08

The Spanish conquerors are approaching

from the other side of the ocean.


/file 0279

/tc 00:40:57:19 00:41:05:00

The horses and superior weapons

of the Spaniards decide the outcome of the battle.


/file 0280

/tc 00:41:16:18 00:41:24:06

The Inca Atahualpa

is taken prisoner and executed.


/file 0281

/tc 00:41:26:21 00:41:34:07

'The land will be lost,

the kingdom will be laid waste and abandoned.'


/file 0282

/tc 00:41:36:19 00:41:46:01

Guaman Poma writes his book in secrecy

while serving the new Spanish lords.


/file 0283

/tc 00:41:52:15 00:41:59:24

'They rob the Indians of their land,

their homes, women and daughters.'


/file 0284

/tc 00:42:01:18 00:42:07:11

'And there is no way out

because they all get together.'


/file 0285

/tc 00:42:07:15 00:42:09:02

'The judge...


/file 0286

/tc 00:42:09:03 00:42:11:01

'The judge...the administrator...


/file 0287

/tc 00:42:11:02 00:42:12:24

The judge...the administrator...

...the colonel...


/file 0288

/tc 00:42:13:00 00:42:15:20

The judge...the administrator...

...the colonel...priests


/file 0289

/tc 00:42:17:06 00:42:22:21

'All are against the poor.'


/file 0290

/tc 00:42:24:00 00:42:27:21

'Writing about it

is to cry.'


/file 0291

/tc 00:42:39:08 00:42:46:16

Ever since the conquest countless

indigenous rebellions have been defeated.


/file 0292

/tc 00:42:47:02 00:42:54:00

Little changed until the peasants won the

struggle for the right to land in the 1970's.


/file 0293

/tc 00:42:54:16 00:43:01:12

-There is the estate Huancahuacho.

-Yes, Huancahuacho. And the house.


/file 0294

/tc 00:43:02:18 00:43:06:04

-There you are.

-Yes.


/file 0295

/tc 00:43:06:13 00:43:11:24

-How did they treat us at work?

-Terribly bad!


/file 0296

/tc 00:43:12:03 00:43:17:21

We couldn't even taste one fruit

because they smelled us in the mouth.


/file 0297

/tc 00:43:18:11 00:43:21:08

-When leaving work.

-Yes.


/file 0298

/tc 00:43:21:10 00:43:26:22

'If you have eaten, then everyone has eaten

and will be punished' , they said.


/file 0299

/tc 00:43:27:06 00:43:33:05

-And then we were punished.

-We had to work two days without pay.


/file 0300

/tc 00:43:33:21 00:43:38:12

'You have eaten your fill', they said.


/file 0301

/tc 00:43:40:14 00:43:46:21

And we milked the cows and couldn't

even have the skim.


/file 0302

/tc 00:43:47:02 00:43:49:03

Nothing!


/file 0303

/tc 00:43:49:07 00:43:54:02

We couldn't even

give the skim to the kids.


/file 0304

/tc 00:43:54:16 00:43:59:17

We were many labourers

and had a lot of children.


/file 0305

/tc 00:44:00:10 00:44:06:24

Then you were happy

when we took over the land?


/file 0306

/tc 00:44:07:03 00:44:10:14

When we became free.


/file 0307

/tc 00:44:11:15 00:44:16:20

-Then we were happy. Finally.

-Happy.


/file 0308

/tc 00:44:17:11 00:44:21:17

"Long live the land occupations!"


/file 0309

/tc 00:44:22:02 00:44:30:03

When finally the land was recaptured 1974

Samuel was one of the leaders.


/file 0310

/tc 00:44:31:22 00:44:36:24

-There you are!

-Yes.


/file 0311

/tc 00:44:37:22 00:44:42:14

Well Don Nestor,

as always with our coca.


/file 0312

/tc 00:44:43:01 00:44:47:08

-And we were never without coca.

-Never.


/file 0313

/tc 00:44:47:16 00:44:49:22

There you are.


/file 0314

/tc 00:44:50:09 00:44:54:02

-Yes, that is me.

-And brave.


/file 0315

/tc 00:44:54:12 00:45:00:20

I was the one

who threw out the landlord.


/file 0316

/tc 00:45:17:08 00:45:21:02

Long live the land occupations!


/file 0317

/tc 00:45:21:12 00:45:25:23

Long live Osccollo!


/file 0318

/tc 00:45:27:19 00:45:32:21

We were united.

Like one hand. United!


/file 0319

/tc 00:45:33:15 00:45:39:02

-When you entered the estate?

-Exactly.


/file 0320

/tc 00:45:40:02 00:45:46:19

We came at night,

at three o'clock in the morning.


/file 0321

/tc 00:45:47:23 00:45:54:09

From two sides, towards the estate.

As if going to work.


/file 0322

/tc 00:45:55:01 00:46:00:18

The landlord came out carrying his rifle

to hand out the tools.


/file 0323

/tc 00:46:01:01 00:46:07:15

Handing out the tools

he also hands out coca for everyone.


/file 0324

/tc 00:46:08:03 00:46:12:09

But then...

Do you know what happened?


/file 0325

/tc 00:46:12:21 00:46:18:06

With his rifle...

Come brother, come here a moment.


/file 0326

/tc 00:46:18:16 00:46:25:10

-Let us pretend you are the landlord, with his rifle.

-Sure.


/file 0327

/tc 00:46:25:15 00:46:32:03

The workers gather

receiving their coca and the tools.


/file 0328

/tc 00:46:32:12 00:46:37:12

While he is occupied

one of us takes his rifle away.


/file 0329

/tc 00:46:38:01 00:46:42:17

In that moment

Escarzena lost his power!


/file 0330

/tc 00:46:43:03 00:46:49:06

When he lost his rifle he lost his power.

He could not defend himself!


/file 0331

/tc 00:46:49:16 00:46:54:10

And when he was disarmed

you threw him out.


/file 0332

/tc 00:46:54:17 00:46:59:13

No, we tied him

to the horse.


/file 0333

/tc 00:46:59:21 00:47:06:00

-He pretended to faint.

-But away with him!


/file 0334

/tc 00:47:06:03 00:47:12:23

-But without hurting him?

-Without hurting him.


/file 0335

/tc 00:47:13:11 00:47:19:12

-Since it was about the land.

-The land, the land.


/file 0336

/tc 00:47:29:13 00:47:35:09

The peasants liberated themselves

from the landlords without violence.


/file 0337

/tc 00:47:35:16 00:47:40:11

"We fight for independence.

Land to all the peasants!"


/file 0338

/tc 00:47:41:03 00:47:46:03

The land reform of general Velasco...


/file 0339

/tc 00:47:46:16 00:47:52:18

...had changed the situation in

favor of the peasants.


/file 0340

/tc 00:47:53:06 00:47:57:24

But the victory over the landlords

was short-lived.


/file 0341

/tc 00:47:58:03 00:48:02:14

What happened after

you had taken back the land?


/file 0342

/tc 00:48:03:02 00:48:11:04

The organisation was crushed...


/file 0343

/tc 00:48:12:01 00:48:17:15

...because the leaders were imprisoned

and we were weakened.


/file 0344

/tc 00:48:17:24 00:48:23:11

The government changed

and the land once again came in dispute.


/file 0345

/tc 00:48:30:15 00:48:37:05

The military reformists were overthrown

by a conservative military coup.


/file 0346

/tc 00:48:38:16 00:48:43:12

The hope

of peaceful change dies.


/file 0347

/tc 00:48:45:05 00:48:50:23

'When his father arrived

he asked him what had happened.'


/file 0348

/tc 00:48:51:02 00:48:55:12

'In a few words he told him.'


/file 0349

/tc 00:48:55:17 00:49:00:05

'They had taken back their land,

and not only there...'


/file 0350

/tc 00:49:00:13 00:49:05:13

'...but in lots of villages

they had done the same.'


/file 0351

/tc 00:49:05:17 00:49:12:13

'So the governement sent a battalion

of soldiers to quell them.'


/file 0352

/tc 00:49:17:19 00:49:23:24

In these years the hope for peaceful change

was crushed all over Latin America.


/file 0353

/tc 00:49:25:22 00:49:31:12

In Chile president Allende

dies in a coup led by general Pinochet.


/file 0354

/tc 00:49:32:19 00:49:37:19

In Argentina the military

seizes power in 1976.


/file 0355

/tc 00:49:49:18 00:49:56:23

The conditions of exploitation

and inequality were so extreme that...


/file 0356

/tc 00:49:57:02 00:50:04:03

...if someone seriously

spoke of revolutionary change...


/file 0357

/tc 00:50:04:16 00:50:07:13

...and we were many

talking about it.


/file 0358

/tc 00:50:07:15 00:50:13:24

Everyone expected an armed uprising

and people believed...


/file 0359

/tc 00:50:14:21 00:50:22:14

...that Peru of that time

would change like Cuba.


/file 0360

/tc 00:50:25:23 00:50:29:09

"We have started a socialist revolution!"


/file 0361

/tc 00:50:35:07 00:50:40:15

In Vietnam an army of peasants

defeats the US superpower.


/file 0362

/tc 00:50:41:24 00:50:49:00

Among the Peruvian peasant leaders

some see Mao's China as a model.


/file 0363

/tc 00:50:58:10 00:51:04:17

Augusta and Abimael travel to China

and believe they see the future.


/file 0364

/tc 00:51:07:15 00:51:15:21

When they came back

they were transformed!


/file 0365

/tc 00:51:17:01 00:51:24:09

They talked about the cultural revolution

and of changing their way of thinking.


/file 0366

/tc 00:51:24:17 00:51:29:19

They thought it was possible to change

someone's way of thinking.


/file 0367

/tc 00:51:31:22 00:51:36:20

Augusta secretly arrives

to the region of Samuel and Claudio.


/file 0368

/tc 00:51:37:03 00:51:43:09

She brings a promise of violent revolution

without betrayal of the peasants.


/file 0369

/tc 00:51:45:01 00:51:50:13

In 1978 Augusta La Torre

appears in Cayara.


/file 0370

/tc 00:51:50:24 00:51:55:00

I didn't know her,

but she presented herself.


/file 0371

/tc 00:51:55:08 00:52:00:06

-So she presented herself as Augusta?

-Yes.


/file 0372

/tc 00:52:00:15 00:52:06:02

And she said that she was the wife

of Abimael Guzman.


/file 0373

/tc 00:52:06:15 00:52:14:08

In a short conversation she said:

'Teacher, in the coming three days...'


/file 0374

/tc 00:52:15:10 00:52:19:00

'...we will have an open debate

here in Cayara...'


/file 0375

/tc 00:52:19:10 00:52:27:18

Down there my aunt Augusta meets with

the local leaders of the peasants.


/file 0376

/tc 00:52:28:06 00:52:33:09

As director of the school I coordinated...


/file 0377

/tc 00:52:33:19 00:52:38:15

..the visit of Augusta La Torre.


/file 0378

/tc 00:52:38:21 00:52:45:10

I was ordered to close

the school for three days.


/file 0379

/tc 00:52:45:18 00:52:50:17

So they came and talked nicely to you.

And were you present during the meeting?


/file 0380

/tc 00:52:51:01 00:52:58:22

Yes, and Sendero Luminoso

determined that the land occupations...


/file 0381

/tc 00:52:59:16 00:53:04:20

...were a mistake,

according to them.


/file 0382

/tc 00:53:05:10 00:53:07:17

-And then what happened

with the peasants?


/file 0383

/tc 00:53:07:21 00:53:11:08

-The peasants

were confused, of course!


/file 0384

/tc 00:53:13:01 00:53:23:12

Sendero talked about a peoples war.

And I said NO!


/file 0385

/tc 00:53:24:07 00:53:30:16

-So they wanted to imitate China

although Peru was different?


/file 0386

/tc 00:53:30:21 00:53:34:03

Yes.


/file 0387

/tc 00:53:38:12 00:53:43:14

Members of Sendero began

to visit the villages.


/file 0388

/tc 00:53:43:18 00:53:50:18

They started party schools,

punished criminals and recruited people.


/file 0389

/tc 00:53:51:12 00:53:55:13

In the beginning

the recruitment was voluntary.


/file 0390

/tc 00:53:57:01 00:54:04:18

Thank you aunt! You never denied us food

and you treated us like your own children.


/file 0391

/tc 00:54:05:04 00:54:08:15

How we have cried!


/file 0392

/tc 00:54:08:20 00:54:11:15

We shared all our sorrows.


/file 0393

/tc 00:54:11:20 00:54:16:05

-Aunt, who came first; the military or Sendero?

-Sendero.


/file 0394

/tc 00:54:16:07 00:54:20:05

The military came after them.


/file 0395

/tc 00:54:20:09 00:54:26:04

How come that some villagers

were convinced to join that group?


/file 0396

/tc 00:54:26:11 00:54:30:04

Through meetings.

Meetings.


/file 0397

/tc 00:54:30:16 00:54:34:02

What did they say to people?


/file 0398

/tc 00:54:34:05 00:54:40:04

They promised that poverty was going to end.

Totally!


/file 0399

/tc 00:54:40:13 00:54:46:08

No poverty!

Poor and rich were going to be equal.


/file 0400

/tc 00:54:46:11 00:54:49:04

That convinced people.


/file 0401

/tc 00:54:49:07 00:54:55:07

But it was not true.

They cheated people with lies.


/file 0402

/tc 00:54:55:10 00:54:58:16

There was no equality.


/file 0403

/tc 00:54:58:19 00:55:03:08

-Instead there was physical and psychological abuse.

-Were they armed?


/file 0404

/tc 00:55:03:11 00:55:07:13

Not at first,

but then little by little...


/file 0405

/tc 00:55:07:20 00:55:13:12

I was told that they

handed over arms to people...


/file 0406

/tc 00:55:13:20 00:55:17:15

People were forced to accept arms.


/file 0407

/tc 00:55:17:23 00:55:24:15

In a meeting they were forced.

Forced.


/file 0408

/tc 00:55:24:23 00:55:30:21

-Celestino was forced to.

-And if not they would kill him. That was it.


/file 0409

/tc 00:55:31:08 00:55:36:02

People from here were forced.

Everyone was forced.


/file 0410

/tc 00:55:49:04 00:55:54:12

In one of the villages people felt

so threatened by Sendero...


/file 0411

/tc 00:55:54:20 00:55:58:21

...that the authorities were informed.


/file 0412

/tc 00:56:01:05 00:56:05:02

I had a strong and well-spoken son.


/file 0413

/tc 00:56:06:09 00:56:10:23

Valeriano went quickly to Andahuaylas.


/file 0414

/tc 00:56:11:08 00:56:15:24

They immediately sent helicopters.


/file 0415

/tc 00:56:16:12 00:56:22:02

So police and military arrived

and started chasing them.


/file 0416

/tc 00:56:17:10 00:56:23:19

The leader of Sendero was a teacher

from the University in Humamanga.


/file 0417

/tc 00:56:24:04 00:56:28:14

They tried to escape

without returning the fire.


/file 0418

/tc 00:56:28:20 00:56:33:12

-Their weapons didn't work.

-They only served to intimidate.


/file 0419

/tc 00:56:34:14 00:56:41:09

The prisoners were

placed in an old cart like this...


/file 0420

/tc 00:56:41:13 00:56:46:11

And they shot them all.


/file 0421

/tc 00:56:46:18 00:56:53:22

-That was no arrest but a massacre!

-But they would have massacred us.


/file 0422

/tc 00:56:54:09 00:57:00:21

Afterwards the movement wanted revenge

and came back a year later...


/file 0423

/tc 00:57:01:10 00:57:07:22

... looking for those

who had informed the police.


/file 0424

/tc 00:57:08:14 00:57:12:21

As result

four persons died here in Antasco.


/file 0425

/tc 00:57:13:05 00:57:17:20

And her....

father was one of the victims.


/file 0426

/tc 00:57:18:06 00:57:23:10

-My mother was left pregnant.

-How old were you?


/file 0427

/tc 00:57:23:14 00:57:27:02

-Almost seven. And I saw how they killed my father.

-You saw it...


/file 0428

/tc 00:57:27:11 00:57:32:07

They were buried in the school.

My father too.


/file 0429

/tc 00:57:32:12 00:57:37:19

Two days later

the military arrived.


/file 0430

/tc 00:57:47:20 00:57:53:16

The army attacked

as a foreign occupying force.


/file 0431

/tc 00:57:58:08 00:58:04:10

Every poor peasant was

suspected of being a terrorist.


/file 0432

/tc 00:58:11:02 00:58:16:07

They started abusing ordinary people.


/file 0433

/tc 00:58:16:14 00:58:22:21

They raped women and there are children

of soldiers here in Antasco.


/file 0434

/tc 00:58:24:10 00:58:32:07

Many innocents were accused

of terrorism and were beaten and massacred.


/file 0435

/tc 00:58:32:15 00:58:38:24

-Bastards!

-This happened in the villages. A terrible injustice...


/file 0436

/tc 00:58:41:03 00:58:47:08

It seemed like nothing had changed

since Guaman Poma wrote his book.


/file 0437

/tc 00:58:48:13 00:58:55:18

"Everyone is against the poor.

And there is no way out"


/file 0438

/tc 00:58:58:24 00:59:05:05

The army left a trail of

massacres and destroyed villages.


/file 0439

/tc 00:59:24:03 00:59:31:16

In this place...

between 1983 and 1985...


/file 0440

/tc 00:59:31:24 00:59:37:09

They assassinated people

brought to these military barracks.


/file 0441

/tc 00:59:38:11 00:59:44:02

They also cremated the bodies.

There are furnaces.


/file 0442

/tc 00:59:47:23 00:59:53:20

The military entered my house at night

and abducted my husband...


/file 0443

/tc 00:59:53:23 01:00:00:14

...accusing him of terrorism

although I know that he was never a terrorist.


/file 0444

/tc 01:00:01:05 01:00:07:22

-He was only a worker and university student.

-And you still don't know what happened to him?


/file 0445

/tc 01:00:08:05 01:00:15:08

They took him to the barracks

and tortured him.


/file 0446

/tc 01:00:15:13 01:00:19:05

A military told me.


/file 0447

/tc 01:00:19:13 01:00:25:01

Without any investigation they

came to his home and took him.


/file 0448

/tc 01:00:25:11 01:00:32:09

With what justification?

They didn't know who was a terrorist and killed anyone.


/file 0449

/tc 01:00:32:24 01:00:37:23

Most of those killed were innocent.


/file 0450

/tc 01:00:38:08 01:00:42:03

Fortunately...

I am still alive...


/file 0451

/tc 01:00:52:00 01:00:55:20

We have been through so much...


/file 0452

/tc 01:00:55:23 01:01:00:23

Sometimes I curse...

Abimael Guzman.


/file 0453

/tc 01:01:01:10 01:01:07:02

Had he not started all this,

we would not have suffered so.


/file 0454

/tc 01:01:11:07 01:01:18:21

The problem of Sendero's revolution

was that it was no liberating revolution.


/file 0455

/tc 01:01:19:04 01:01:25:02

First and foremost you had to give your life

to become a revolutionary.


/file 0456

/tc 01:01:25:15 01:01:33:09

...then they used the righteous resentment,

as I call it...


/file 0457

/tc 01:01:33:12 01:01:38:06

Not that I as peasant will

have a better life with the revolution...


/file 0458

/tc 01:01:38:14 01:01:41:23

But I will be able

to fuck those bastards...


/file 0459

/tc 01:01:42:06 01:01:47:18

So the violence

that he advocated is...


/file 0460

/tc 01:01:48:10 01:01:56:09

...terrible, because it is not about killing

but an ideological violence to subordinate people.


/file 0461

/tc 01:01:56:17 01:02:02:23

And it is a violence where he says that...


/file 0462

/tc 01:02:04:02 01:02:09:12

...to win the war

you have to make two things.


/file 0463

/tc 01:02:10:05 01:02:17:10

Give the peasant a weapon

and let him feel the power.


/file 0464

/tc 01:02:21:02 01:02:23:23

Let him taste it.


/file 0465

/tc 01:02:24:07 01:02:27:14

Someone who has tasted power...


/file 0466

/tc 01:02:27:19 01:02:30:07

...will not give up the power!


/file 0467

/tc 01:02:30:15 01:02:37:07

But this peasant who has power...the weapon...

also uses it to oppress his wife.


/file 0468

/tc 01:02:37:14 01:02:42:12

To abuse his women

and install his dictatorship.


/file 0469

/tc 01:02:56:06 01:03:01:18

What happened

to the house over there?


/file 0470

/tc 01:03:02:02 01:03:08:24

It was a community house but

also served as school.


/file 0471

/tc 01:03:10:05 01:03:17:21

They burnt it down in 1984.

Sendero Luminoso.


/file 0472

/tc 01:03:18:11 01:03:21:11

But why did Sendero kill people here?


/file 0473

/tc 01:03:21:24 01:03:27:01

That is a very good question.

Why did Sendero kill people here?


/file 0474

/tc 01:03:27:05 01:03:34:23

We got organised and decided

that we did not want to join their ranks.


/file 0475

/tc 01:03:35:09 01:03:39:13

So people here

organised against Sendero.


/file 0476

/tc 01:03:39:16 01:03:42:03

Let me tell you.


/file 0477

/tc 01:03:42:08 01:03:49:18

In 1984 I was 16 years old.


/file 0478

/tc 01:03:49:24 01:03:56:24

My mother told me to take

our sheep to pasture.


/file 0479

/tc 01:03:57:18 01:04:06:09

So I went with all the animals.

When I came back I couldn't find my mother.


/file 0480

/tc 01:04:08:23 01:04:14:18

I went over the river,

close to where we are now...


/file 0481

/tc 01:04:14:24 01:04:19:05

There I found my mother buried.


/file 0482

/tc 01:04:19:15 01:04:23:22

The earth had been dug up.


/file 0483

/tc 01:04:24:05 01:04:30:01

I found the handkerchief

she used when chewing coca.


/file 0484

/tc 01:04:30:09 01:04:35:22

It was bloody.

"What have they done to my mother!" I said


/file 0485

/tc 01:04:36:00 01:04:44:00

I started digging and found her.

They had not buried her deep.


/file 0486

/tc 01:04:44:03 01:04:51:06

They had slit her throat

and cut her here and there.


/file 0487

/tc 01:04:51:11 01:04:55:13

This part was totally mutilated.


/file 0488

/tc 01:04:55:18 01:05:01:12

They had slaughtered her like an animal.

I tried to lift her.


/file 0489

/tc 01:05:02:00 01:05:09:05

'Mother, please wake up! What have I done to you?

Have I ever disobeyed you?'


/file 0490

/tc 01:05:09:19 01:05:16:13

'Talk to me! If we are to die it should be together!'

I said and tried to lift her up.


/file 0491

/tc 01:05:16:16 01:05:21:16

But I couldn't hold her,

the throat was cut.


/file 0492

/tc 01:05:21:23 01:05:26:11

I couldn't leave my mother.


/file 0493

/tc 01:05:26:19 01:05:34:11

I took her away from there and went back.

'They have murdered my mother!' I said


/file 0494

/tc 01:05:34:14 01:05:38:14

'Who were they?' I asked.


/file 0495

/tc 01:05:38:20 01:05:43:08

'We don't know.

Even their cloths were foreign', they said.


/file 0496

/tc 01:06:07:18 01:06:16:05

Sendero appeared because of the discrimination.

Sendero Luminoso profited from this.


/file 0497

/tc 01:06:18:01 01:06:24:09

They destroyed the villages

and we the innocent suffered.


/file 0498

/tc 01:06:24:15 01:06:29:17

It is not my fault

that I am an orphan.


/file 0499

/tc 01:07:08:08 01:07:14:04

You got to know her through the photos.


/file 0500

/tc 01:07:15:06 01:07:22:17

What do you think

when visiting us here in Ayacucho?


/file 0501

/tc 01:07:22:22 01:07:31:09

-We never expected to meet some of Augusta's family again.

-Never!


/file 0502

/tc 01:07:42:08 01:07:51:20

It is so difficult.

I came to Peru to understand Augusta, but...


/file 0503

/tc 01:07:52:16 01:07:58:22

...also this country,

and all that has happened.


/file 0504

/tc 01:07:59:05 01:08:08:00

But every time I turn a stone

there is a new mystery.


/file 0505

/tc 01:08:08:18 01:08:15:24

And there is something

I do not understand.


/file 0506

/tc 01:08:19:04 01:08:26:02

Everyone says that Augusta

was a very simple person.


/file 0507

/tc 01:08:26:17 01:08:31:22

Logical, intelligent and beautiful.


/file 0508

/tc 01:08:32:04 01:08:39:05

But she joined this organization, that...


/file 0509

/tc 01:08:40:01 01:08:47:04

...committed very serious errors.


/file 0510

/tc 01:08:47:13 01:08:54:14

And I do not understand.

It is like she...


/file 0511

/tc 01:08:56:09 01:09:01:13

...had two personalities


/file 0512

/tc 01:09:01:22 01:09:09:24

One very soft...

and another very rigid.


/file 0513

/tc 01:09:10:20 01:09:17:05

With politics and all that.


/file 0514

/tc 01:09:49:11 01:09:56:10

I am afraid

to be linked to the family of Josefin.


/file 0515

/tc 01:09:58:14 01:10:05:08

Unfortunately we are in different positions.

Very different.


/file 0516

/tc 01:10:05:16 01:10:09:20

I have said before that it was not

my brother who started the war.


/file 0517

/tc 01:10:09:24 01:10:15:03

It was practically started by her family.


/file 0518

/tc 01:10:15:03 01:10:18:10

We are paying the price.


/file 0519

/tc 01:10:18:20 01:10:24:10

We have lost a family member.

Our pain is different from theirs.


/file 0520

/tc 01:10:25:05 01:10:28:05

I know she will understand.


/file 0521

/tc 01:10:28:09 01:10:34:10

But anyhow we have had

totally different lives.


/file 0522

/tc 01:10:35:05 01:10:40:15

I accepted this because

I wanted Claudio to be known.


/file 0523

/tc 01:10:40:20 01:10:46:10

Because often in a genocide...


/file 0524

/tc 01:10:47:10 01:10:53:00

...they brand the victims terrorists

even though most were not, like my brother.


/file 0525

/tc 01:10:53:10 01:10:58:00

And that said apart from his ideas

which I am proud of.


/file 0526

/tc 01:10:58:10 01:11:03:18

And one of his ideals

was to bring forward his family.


/file 0527

/tc 01:11:35:18 01:11:39:20

What happened to Claudio and Sendero?


/file 0528

/tc 01:11:40:08 01:11:46:03

Claudio left the village

before Sendero came here.


/file 0529

/tc 01:11:46:17 01:11:55:02

Claudio became politically aware

after seeing our father in the land occupations.


/file 0530

/tc 01:11:57:04 01:12:07:05

At the university he didn't participate

very actively, it seems.


/file 0531

/tc 01:12:10:08 01:12:15:16

Why?

Because people who entered the party...


/file 0532

/tc 01:12:16:02 01:12:24:18

...forgot their family, their future and everything else.

They surrendered their life to the struggle.


/file 0533

/tc 01:12:24:22 01:12:29:09

Claudio never went that far.

Why?


/file 0534

/tc 01:12:29:14 01:12:33:13

Because he was

more of a son, a brother.


/file 0535

/tc 01:12:33:16 01:12:39:18

'I want something better for my parents

and my siblings. I want to finish my studies.'


/file 0536

/tc 01:12:40:02 01:12:44:22

'I want my siblings to become something.'

He chose that path.


/file 0537

/tc 01:12:45:08 01:12:50:05

And left the other.


/file 0538

/tc 01:12:55:20 01:12:58:07

But it was too late.


/file 0539

/tc 01:13:01:11 01:13:07:12

Claudio was arrested and

brought to the Fronton prison.


/file 0540

/tc 01:13:12:22 01:13:19:09

On the island there were

those involved in the struggle.


/file 0541

/tc 01:13:19:13 01:13:23:09

-And you belonged to this group?

-Let's say so.


/file 0542

/tc 01:13:23:12 01:13:30:20

And those who had been involved involuntarily

because anyone was arrested those days.


/file 0543

/tc 01:13:30:24 01:13:37:20

Maybe he was innocent

as I suppose you believe.


/file 0544

/tc 01:13:37:24 01:13:44:11

But at that time the situation

and the movement was so strong...


/file 0545

/tc 01:13:44:15 01:13:47:24

...that people got involved

because of that feeling.


/file 0546

/tc 01:14:02:00 01:14:09:06

I remember the first time I visited the island.

The songs of the family members...


/file 0547

/tc 01:14:18:14 01:14:25:00

Sendero took control

of the prisons from inside.


/file 0548

/tc 01:14:26:18 01:14:32:24

The fighters of the Communist Party of Peru

welcome you...


/file 0549

/tc 01:14:33:06 01:14:36:21

...being temporary prisoners of war here.


/file 0550

/tc 01:14:37:00 01:14:42:11

Long live the struggle

of the family committees!


/file 0551

/tc 01:15:35:09 01:15:41:12

Abimael called the prisons

'The shining trenches of combat.'


/file 0552

/tc 01:15:42:00 01:15:49 :12

Giving your life for the struggle was

an importante part of the ideology of Sendero.


/file 0553

/tc 01:15:51:19 01:16:00:03

We are firmly commited to the armed struggle

because that is how we destroy the old order.


/file 0554

/tc 01:16:00:09 01:16:03:21

And create the new state;

the popular republic of new democracy.


/file 0555

/tc 01:16:04:09 01:16:10:19

President Gonzalo has developed

the guiding thoughts to the highest levels.


/file 0556

/tc 01:16:11:08 01:16:16:08

He is the fourth pillar of

Marxism-Leninism-Maoism.


/file 0557

/tc 01:16:25:20 01:16:33:10

The war between Sendero and the army

also went on in the prisons.


/file 0558

/tc 01:16:36:08 01:16:42:11

Hundreds of prisoners were killed

without any chance to stand trial.


/file 0559

/tc 01:16:42:23 01:16:51:15

The family members of the prisoners

became helpless witnesses to the events.


/file 0560

/tc 01:16:55:13 01:16:58:11

As president of Peru

it is painful to...


/file 0561

/tc 01:16:59:16 01:17:07:24

Flor is convinced that president Garcia

gave the order to attack Fronton.


/file 0562

/tc 01:17:16:01 01:17:22:11

We had been told that the military

planned to attack the island.


/file 0563

/tc 01:17:22:24 01:17:30:17

So we were preparing

for a genocide.


/file 0564

/tc 01:17:31:02 01:17:34:10

A slaughter was coming.


/file 0565

/tc 01:17:35:20 01:17:44:18

When the mutiny started

you took three hostages from the guards.


/file 0566

/tc 01:17:45:05 01:17:49:13

If they didn't want to negotiate,

just kill us...


/file 0567

/tc 01:17:49:18 01:17:54:21

...then we had to act first

to face what was coming.


/file 0568

/tc 01:17:55:15 01:18:02:02

-So you took hostages.

-Our only chance was to take hostages.


/file 0569

/tc 01:18:10:14 01:18:19:05

When the marines attack

the prisoners in Fronton...


/file 0570

/tc 01:18:24:10 01:18:29:17

Most of them will never

see their family members again.


/file 0571

/tc 01:18:30:20 01:18:36:05

'Prison authority -

killers of political prisoners!'


/file 0572

/tc 01:18:41:04 01:18:49:03

Ever since the massacre Flor and her family

fight for the restitution of Claudio.


/file 0573

/tc 01:18:50:00 01:18:53:07

The survivors say...


/file 0574

/tc 01:18:53:15 01:18:59:20

...that people were separated after

having been brought out and then taken aside.


/file 0575

/tc 01:19:00:05 01:19:03:09

And there they

are shot.


/file 0576

/tc 01:19:03:13 01:19:10:12

Alan Garcia denies knowing anything.

Who then gave the order to the marines?


/file 0577

/tc 01:19:10:16 01:19:14:21

Was he not the supreme chief

of the armed forces?


/file 0578

/tc 01:19:15:02 01:19:20:06

We are convinced that the simultaneous attack

on the three prisons is inconceivable...


/file 0579

/tc 01:19:20:14 01:19:24:09

...without an order from high up.

And Alan Garcia was in command.


/file 0580

/tc 01:19:24:16 01:19:31:09

I have read documentation

and there is strong evidence that he gave the order.


/file 0581

/tc 01:20:08:16 01:20:11:04

I saw it myself.


/file 0582

/tc 01:20:11:08 01:20:16:09

I have never

seen anything as cruel as that.


/file 0583

/tc 01:20:16:13 01:20:20:05

To me that was very cruel.


/file 0584

/tc 01:20:20:15 01:20:27:08

You can say a lot about us there

but the great majority were never tried.


/file 0585

/tc 01:20:27:19 01:20:33:01

And no one can be

found guilty without a verdict.


/file 0586

/tc 01:20:33:07 01:20:38:07

The drama is not only about Claudio

but of many people there.


/file 0587

/tc 01:20:38:14 01:20:44:17

I was there

with a person I saw die...


/file 0588

/tc 01:20:45:00 01:20:52:00

He was hit by a bazooka

and disappeared in front of my eyes.


/file 0589

/tc 01:20:52:03 01:20:59:20

-Disappeared?

-Disappeared. A bazooka shell shreds you in pieces.


/file 0590

/tc 01:21:09:03 01:21:16:17

-So everyone in his group died?

-Yes, everyone.


/file 0591

/tc 01:21:30:10 01:21:36:00

We are not alone,

but I always ask why us?


/file 0592

/tc 01:21:36:04 01:21:38:23

Why Claudio?


/file 0593

/tc 01:21:39:02 01:21:43:12

Alan Garcia personally

directed that massacre.


/file 0594

/tc 01:21:43:17 01:21:49:14

Apart from Alan Garcia beeing a murderer

who ordered the killing of the prisoners...


/file 0595

/tc 01:21:50:03 01:21:58:06

...somebody on the other side is also guilty.

-The order for the mutiny came from above.


/file 0596

/tc 01:21:58:10 01:22:03:20

-From above...from Abimael.

-Abimael Guzman. He gave the order.


/file 0597

/tc 01:22:31:19 01:22:37:17

Register.

Disappeared.


/file 0598

/tc 01:22:37:21 01:22:45:03

The lawyer on the case of Claudio

finally discovers that he still...


/file 0599

/tc 01:22:45:21 01:22:49:19

...decades after his death

has a search warrant.


/file 0600

/tc 01:22:50:02 01:22:54:13

To the Peruvian state

he is still fugitive.


/file 0601

/tc 01:22:54:16 01:23:01:08

...and since there is no justice...

they have just continued and continued...


/file 0602

/tc 01:23:02:01 01:23:06:06

And what have they found against your brother?

A poem.


/file 0603

/tc 01:23:06:23 01:23:14:01

That he admits to have written.

'Yes, I wrote that poem, because I think like that.'


/file 0604

/tc 01:23:14:08 01:23:21:07

'I have read in the papers

about the struggle of persons in Sendero.'


/file 0605

/tc 01:23:21:12 01:23:26:03

'And I think they

want to create a just world.'


/file 0606

/tc 01:23:26:07 01:23:29:17

His THOUGHTS.


/file 0607

/tc 01:23:29:20 01:23:37:13

'Is it true that you wrote the poem:

"Song to a fighter" ? about the soldier-peasant...'


/file 0608

/tc 01:23:37:16 01:23:42:17

'...his weapon and the connection

to the communist party of Peru?'


/file 0609

/tc 01:23:43:07 01:23:47:03

'Yes, it's true that I wrote that poem.'


/file 0610

/tc 01:23:47:08 01:23:52:22

'I do not and have not belonged to the party

but I have sympathized.'


/file 0611

/tc 01:23:53:03 01:23:57:12

Yes,

And his sympathy was expressed in the poem.


/file 0612

/tc 01:23:57:18 01:24:01:12

We don't have to agree with him.


/file 0613

/tc 01:24:01:18 01:24:08:04

But that does not lead to a prison sentence.

Much less the death penalty that he received.


/file 0614

/tc 01:24:08:11 01:24:18:17

We believe that the victims of Fronton

must be accepted as victims.


/file 0615

/tc 01:24:18:24 01:24:22:06

Having belonged

to Sendero or not.


/file 0616

/tc 01:24:22:12 01:24:26:23

If they had belonged to Sendero Luminoso

they should be punished by the state.


/file 0617

/tc 01:24:27:10 01:24:29:23

But not with capital penalty.


/file 0618

/tc 01:24:30:04 01:24:35:02

In Claudio's case I am convinced

that a court would have...


/file 0619

/tc 01:24:35:08 01:24:39:20

...set him free.


/file 0620

/tc 01:24:55:10 01:25:02:05

-What do you think happened to Augusta?

-A video was published...


/file 0621

/tc 01:25:02:19 01:25:14:00

They confiscated a video from Sendero

where she appears in a coffin.


/file 0622

/tc 01:25:16:22 01:25:25:12

At some point they had arrived at

insoluble political contradictions.


/file 0623

/tc 01:25:25:16 01:25:28:18

Despite being married.


/file 0624

/tc 01:25:29:10 01:25:33:23

She believed that the people's war

should be fought in the countryside.


/file 0625

/tc 01:25:34:08 01:25:39:24

But they wanted it to take place in the city.

And according to the press...


/file 0626

/tc 01:25:40:04 01:25:46:15

...Abimael's people

tried to kill her.


/file 0627

/tc 01:25:52:11 01:26:01:19

Abimael directed the revolt from his hiding in Lima.

He ordered the war to the capital.


/file 0628

/tc 01:26:20:24 01:26:26:15

Peru was pushed close to

catastrophy by violence and economical ruin.


/file 0629

/tc 01:26:27:24 01:26:32:12

Poverty steadily became worse.


/file 0630

/tc 01:26:33:14 01:26:39:02

In the last democratic election

the winner was Alberto Fujimori.


/file 0631

/tc 01:26:42:09 01:26:46:19

Soon he dissolved the parliament

and assumed dictatorial power.


/file 0632

/tc 01:26:56:11 01:27:03:09

The terror of the death patrols of the state

and Sendero brought Peru towards the abyss.


/file 0633

/tc 01:27:09:23 01:27:17:09

Augusta was already dead

and I was four years old.


/file 0634

/tc 01:27:18:06 01:27:25:08

At my daycare in Sweden I painted

the Peruvian flag all in red.


/file 0635

/tc 01:27:47:05 01:27:53:04

To me there was something

filthy between them.


/file 0636

/tc 01:27:53:22 01:28:01:20

Within the power there are many factors.

Who can do what and be where, etc.


/file 0637

/tc 01:28:02:06 01:28:08:07

You eliminate the enemy

and step into his place.


/file 0638

/tc 01:28:08:18 01:28:14:15

Someone arranged

the murder of Augusta.


/file 0639

/tc 01:28:14:22 01:28:17:24

They murdered her.


/file 0640

/tc 01:28:20:07 01:28:26:15

They took her power

because she had power over Abimael.


/file 0641

/tc 01:28:26:24 01:28:34:08

She had a lot of power

and someone at the top didn't like it.


/file 0642

/tc 01:28:34:11 01:28:40:07

I have the impression

that it was the one he later married.


/file 0643

/tc 01:28:49:17 01:28:58:16

I think she was ill. He knew it and

unless she went abroad for treatment...


/file 0644

/tc 01:28:59:08 01:29:02:10

...she was going to die.


/file 0645

/tc 01:29:02:14 01:29:06:14

Augusta also knew.


/file 0646

/tc 01:29:07:05 01:29:14:13

If you know that you will die

without treatment...and that you may be cured.


/file 0647

/tc 01:29:15:17 01:29:22:01

Then you make a decision about your life.

And what decision did Augusta make?


/file 0648

/tc 01:29:22:10 01:29:24:21

To die.


/file 0649

/tc 01:29:25:05 01:29:29:18

I am sure that

she was also influenced by...


/file 0650

/tc 01:29:30:00 01:29:37:22

..being part of a triangle that

would not end well for her.


/file 0651

/tc 01:29:44:08 01:29:51:14

1992- four years after the death of Augusta,

Abimael and the heads of Sendero were arrested.


/file 0652

/tc 01:29:53:04 01:30:01:02

Elena Iparraguirre had already

assumed the role of Augusta by the side of Abimael.


/file 0653

/tc 01:30:01:20 01:30:05:11

If you die,

this will remain.


/file 0654

/tc 01:30:05:18 01:30:13:03

It can never be wiped out.

And as we know history will recognize it.


/file 0655

/tc 01:30:15:01 01:30:20:07

Even if we are persecuted and executed.


/file 0656

/tc 01:30:29:08 01:30:37:05

The leaders of Sendero were arrested

and exhibited to the world press.


/file 0657

/tc 01:30:38:18 01:30:46:20

Abimael Guzman, president of the

central committee of Sendero Luminoso...


/file 0658

/tc 01:30:47:07 01:30:51:00

Marital status:

widow.


/file 0659

/tc 01:30:51:06 01:30:57:16

On the 30th of September 1965, in Ayacucho

married to Augusta La Torre Carrasco...


/file 0660

/tc 01:30:57:24 01:31:01:11

...who died in 1988.


/file 0661

/tc 01:31:01:17 01:31:08:03

It is just a temporary setback

on the long road.


/file 0662

/tc 01:31:08:10 01:31:14:19

We will triumph!

You will see!


/file 0663

/tc 01:31:22:17 01:31:27:21

What do you feel for Abimael Guzman?


/file 0664

/tc 01:31:29:19 01:31:35:13

Sometimes I hate him.


/file 0665

/tc 01:31:36:15 01:31:39:21

I am sure...


/file 0666

/tc 01:31:40:00 01:31:44:05

...that he knows

what happened to Augusta.


/file 0667

/tc 01:31:44:13 01:31:50:18

Everyone lives their tragedy

in their own way.


/file 0668

/tc 01:31:51:23 01:31:56:10

To find peace and the...


/file 0669

/tc 01:31:56:13 01:32:02:02

...tranquillity you are missing

you must find out...


/file 0670

/tc 01:32:02:05 01:32:08:21

...what happened, why

and above all; where is he?


/file 0671

/tc 01:33:10:20 01:33:16:19

Mr Samuel, as you know the case of

Claudio Gonzales Barbaran has been closed.


/file 0672

/tc 01:33:16:23 01:33:22:01

The result was satisfactory...


/file 0673

/tc 01:33:22:08 01:33:26:16

...giving moral support to

a victim of the violence.


/file 0674

/tc 01:33:27:03 01:33:36:06

Dignifying and including

Claudio in the victims register...


/file 0675

/tc 01:33:36:08 01:33:43:19

...with the state recognizing

him as a victim of the violence.


/file 0676

/tc 01:33:44:21 01:33:52:12

The only consolation

is that my son was innocent.


/file 0677

/tc 01:33:53:04 01:33:58:17

And in his innocence they killed him.


/file 0678

/tc 01:33:59:02 01:34:05:02

Those responsible

should be sentenced a thousand times.


/file 0679

/tc 01:34:08:02 01:34:12:12

But it would be better...


/file 0680

/tc 01:34:13:00 01:34:17:13

...that the one responsible paid the price...


/file 0681

/tc 01:34:17:19 01:34:24:04

....the one who in that moment

was the supreme commander of the armed forces.


/file 0682

/tc 01:34:24:08 01:34:30:22

Everyone knows

but they can not prosecute this person.


/file 0683

/tc 01:34:31:10 01:34:38:21

I can only trust that the divine justice

sooner or later will make this person pay.


/file 0684

/tc 01:34:38:24 01:34:43:06

In the hardest way possible.


/file 0685

/tc 01:35:02:03 01:35:09:11

I have been harsh,

maybe because of my experiences.


/file 0686

/tc 01:35:09:18 01:35:16:24

You came here to know the truth...

about what really happened.


/file 0687

/tc 01:35:19:12 01:35:28:07

It is brave of you to seek the true story

And not be carried away by the myths.


/file 0688

/tc 01:35:29:03 01:35:35:00

The made-up stories they told.


/file 0689

/tc 01:35:35:21 01:35:40:05

It is important for me to be here.


/file 0690

/tc 01:35:40:12 01:35:47:09

I have discovered a lot about Peru,

the war and the peasants in the countryside.


/file 0691

/tc 01:35:49:01 01:35:55:18

And it is hard to realize

that Augusta took part in all this.


/file 0692

/tc 01:35:57:10 01:36:02:19

But it is good for you to know.

It is good.


/file 0693

/tc 01:36:06:19 01:36:14:18

Don't you feel more free without blindfolds.

Now that you know the truth?


/file 0694

/tc 01:36:14:22 01:36:18:16

-Don't you feel freer?

-Yes, of course.


/file 0695

/tc 01:36:19:02 01:36:25:08

And freedom has a price.


/file 0696

/tc 01:36:26:00 01:36:34:04

You are free because you decided to be.

But your family...


/file 0697

/tc 01:36:37:00 01:36:40:08

But they are still your family...


/file 0698

/tc 01:37:01:24 01:37:05:05

Dad.


/file 0699

/tc 01:37:06:01 01:37:12:07

I was so afraid to make this journey.


/file 0700

/tc 01:37:14:04 01:37:18:21

But I am not afraid

anymore.


/file 0701

/tc 01:37:20:13 01:37:26:19

The fairy-tale you told me

was not true.


/file 0702

/tc 01:37:32:05 01:37:39:00

But what I found was

so much more valuable.


/file 0703

/tc 01:37:40:19 01:37:45:21

I have met terrible cruelty.


/file 0704

/tc 01:37:46:11 01:37:51:10

But also the most profound tenderness.


/file 0705

/tc 01:38:00:09 01:38:04:02

'He looked at the sky and smiled.'


/file 0706

/tc 01:38:05:02 01:38:11:02

'Remembering how he had said good-bye

crying as never before.'


/file 0707

/tc 01:38:12:14 01:38:20:19

'It was five, six years since he left

his beloved village, his land.'


/file 0708

/tc 01:38:26:01 01:38:32:19

'Now he was back,

and he thought it was forever.'

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