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FOUR CORNERS

INTERNATIONAL EDITION

2017

Forget Me Not

43 mins 04 secs

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©2017

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Precis

"I've told people that I love dearly that unless they want a good slap, don't ever refer to me as a dementia sufferer." Suzie

This is a story of identity, love and dignity.

"I'm not 'suffering' with dementia I'm just another person diagnosed at a younger age and there are a lot of people out there like me." Suzie

In this touching and brave program, three families have opened their lives to Four Corners to tell their stories.

"What keeps me going, I think, is just love. He's my best friend. And I made a commitment to cherish him and care for him. I really want to see that through." Mandy

Dementia is the second biggest cause of death in Australia. More than four-hundred thousand Australians living with the disease and the figures are rising. A diagnosis is devastating. But for these families, it is being faced clear-eyed, with a determination to enjoy life to the full.

"My diagnosis has helped me come to grips with some of the things that I've always put off for tomorrow." Brian

We follow their intensely personal stories as they share their hopes, fears and plans for the future.

"I have a bucket list. I want to travel more, I want to spend more time with my children, I want to embrace life and I don't want to forget the people that I love." Suzie

"I want to spend more time with my grandchildren, I want to travel around Australia, and I want to tell my wife that I love her." Brian

For a disease that will touch so many Australians, there is often little understanding of the condition. There are more than one hundred types of dementia, inheriting the disease is relatively rare, and in some cases, it can begin to take effect when a person is in the prime of their life.

"I was madly in love with him, and there was no way that I was going to change my mind." Mandy, wife

In interviews with leading doctors in the field, the program explores the research into the steps that can be taken that may help stave off or slow the progression of the disease.

"There aren't a lot medications available, but you can do lots of things in your lifestyle." Doctor

Shining through this inspiring program is the love and dedication of the families and friends determined to cherish every minute they have with left.

"I just remind him that the diagnosis was our diagnosis, that it's not just him. It's something in our life that we need to deal with. I remind him constantly that he is Brian Fischer who happens to have Alzheimer's, he is not Brian Alzheimer's.

Because Alzheimer's could take over your whole life if you let it." Heather, wife

"There is no struggle for me to come in here and help. It's all done with love and that's what it's about." Rodger, best friend






Exterior Garry and Mandy’s home.
Super: APRIL 2012

[SFX:. Kookaburra]

00:13

Garry and Mandy rounding up chickens

GARRY LOVELL: We’re in Christmas Hills. We’ve been here eight year; we love it.

00:19


I’ve stopped work, a couple of weeks ago. I’m in retirement early, so

00:34

Garry and Mandy at kitchen table 100%

Mandy and I can do all the things we want to do before you can’t do things.

00:39

Garry and Mandy feeding chickens

MANDY LOVELL: Garry has a really rare type of the younger onset Alzheimer’s disease that is a familial type. So, there’s a faulty gene, which is responsible for this type of dementia. Garry’s mother, Jan, started to develop dementia when she was quite young as well. She was in her 50s.

00:48

Garry and Mandy walking around property

GARRY LOVELL: Once she got sick she said to me ‘I hope you don’t get this and then I asked her why she is saying that, and she said that her dad had the same thing, his two brothers, and their sister, and their mother and it went on and on.

01:13


So when she told me that it was kind of a bit of a punch in the head, sort of thing, because I didn’t know anything about it.







01:35

Garry and Mandy working in vegetable garden

MANDY LOVELL: In 2001, Garry had a gene test when it became available and found out that he was gene positive, so he knew that he would also get this disease.


GARRY LOVELL: Yeah, I’ve just always wanted to know, because I think you can plan your life better, that’s all.

01:43

Garry and Mandy in kitchen 100%. Super:
GARRY AND MANDY LOVELL

Like if you’re going to get sick then you change your thoughts about what to do, when to do it, and so that’s what we’ve been doing anyway.

02:02

Mandy and Garry with dogs in garden

MANDY LOVELL: He really wanted to make sure that I had an understanding of what our lives were going to be like. He said to me ‘I really understand if this is too much for you, and if you can’t do this,’ but I was madly in love with him, and there was no way that that was going to change my mind.

02:26

Garry and Mandy in kitchen 100%

GARRY LOVELL: Well, I’m hoping that they’ll find some kind of drug that might slow it down or even stop it, so I am kind of positive to think like that, which doesn’t make you feel doom and gloom all the time, so that’s always a good thing to think about if you are feeling a bit gloomy; there’s a lot of people doing a lot of work trying to find something, even if it just slows it down. I mean that could happen any time… and be positive. I don’t know. That’s what I’m doing anyway. I can recommend it to all those people who are watching.




02:42

Freeze frame GRAPHIC CARD over: There are two types of Alzheimer’s disease.
Garry has a rare form of younger onset Alzheimer’s that is passed through families.
The other type is usually diagnosed in people over 65. It is not an inherited condition.

03:36

Close on yellow flower


03:56

Brian hanging out washing

BRIAN FISCHER: It’s very difficult coming to the realisation that you can’t do as much as you used to be able to do. I can’t put a date on it when it really became difficult. I was losing the zest, the zoom, the desire to go and achieve things that I knew I could achieve.

04:00

Brian 100%. Super:
BRIAN FISCHER

Then you stop three or four things, then you think, ‘What am I doing? I don’t do anything any more. It’s like a circle all the time.

04:23

Brian hanging out washing

HEATHER FISCHER: Every now and again, when Brian feels bad about himself and says, ‘Oh maybe I should go somewhere because it’s not fair on you, I just remind him that the diagnosis was

04:32

Heather 100%. Super:
HEATHER FISCHER

our diagnosis, that it’s not just him. It’s something that is in our life that we need to deal with.

04:48

Brian sitting on bed looking out window

I remind him constantly that he is Brian Fischer who happens to have Alzheimer’s, he is not Brian Alzheimer’s.



04:57

Heather enters bedroom

Because Alzheimer’s could take over your whole life if you let it.


HEATHER FISCHER: Morning. Did you sleep well?


BRIAN FISCHER: I did. I did. I did. What’s on today?


HEATHER FISCHER: Tuesday… just around the house today and we might go out this afternoon and do some shopping, this afternoon.


BRIAN FISCHER: So I get in to my good work clothes, or whatever?


HEATHER FISCHER: Yes. Good work clothes.

05:06

Brian at wardrobe. Heather assists him

BRIAN FISCHER: Thought I might go down the street. Need some help please.


HEATHER FISCHER: Brian's unable to make choices. I was noticing that he was standing for ages in front of his wardrobe not knowing what to put on. On bad days, he may stand there and not be able to choose that. In which case, I just quietly take them out and put them on the bed for him.


BRIAN FISCHER: Heather keeps me going.



05:30

Dressing sequence continues

I feel very guilty that that I am the cause of a dampening of her enthusiasm.


HEATHER FISCHER:. Do you know where your socks are?


BRIAN FISCHER: Hopefully.

06:05


HEATHER FISCHER: Try the right-hand drawer.


Close on Heather

Just on the right-hand drawer. Next drawer to the right.


BRIAN FISCHER: This one?


HEATHER FISCHER: Yep. I think you might find them there.

06:13

Dressing sequence continues. Brian at drawers

BRIAN FISCHER: Socks?


HEATHER FISCHER: And undies. Right on the top.


BRIAN FISCHER: Oh beautiful. Thank you.


HEATHER FISCHER: All done.

06:18

Dressing sequence continues.

HEATHER FISCHER: Brian was an academic. He held down very high positions during his lifetime. He was a principal at the age of about 30 and he became a district inspector at 37.



06:23


HEATHER FISCHER: Don’t forget to have a shower.


BRIAN FISCHER: Oh. Okay.


HEATHER FISCHER:. He then went on to manage school support centres.

06:37

Brian into bathroom

He was in charge of over 300 schools. There was nothing he couldn't do. And he fitted so many things into a day. He could work on two or three things at the same time.

06:46

Brian and Heather at shopping centre

He gave up Rotary, he gave up tennis, he was reluctant to volunteer for things that he used to volunteer for, he stopped accepting invitations to places.

06:59

Brian and Heather shop for fruit and veg

And as well as that, I noticed that he kept losing a few things, and this was about 2000, 2002. He was falling asleep at a table, just falling asleep for no reason.

07:20


The psychiatrist decided that he really didn’t need a neuro psychological test, that he was really just having some problems adjusting to retirement.

07:32


HEATHER FISCHER: Could you grab me two oranges please? Just two oranges

07:41


HEATHER FISCHER: It just got worse for him.

07:52


We had three awful years of tension and friction and a feeling of absolute hopelessness.

07:59


Twelve months ago, Brian was getting so frustrated that he started becoming a little physically aggressive, which was just not him. And he would be angry and throw things.


08:07

Heather 100%

And on one occasion, he actually hit me across the face, which was just devastating for him because he’s a kind, gentle man who would not approve of that in anybody whatsoever.

08:20

Brian 100%

BRIAN FISCHER: I’m embarrassed to talk about it. I’m ashamed to talk about it. But yes, I have hit Heather. She tried to help me with something once and put her hand up towards my face, and I said, ‘Don’t do that.’ I don’t know why. It’s just not me.

08:33

Brian and Heather down hallway into kitchen. Unpack shopping.

Here was I hitting the person I loved, hitting my best friend. She puts herself out so much to help me and I’m starting to get physically violent I suppose.

09:10


HEATHER FISCHER: Afterwards he would come and just cry. And he would just say you don’t deserve this. I don’t deserve this. I’m saying those things, but I know, deep down I know that I love you and that we’ve got everything going for us. Why is this happening?

09:26

Car park. Suzie walking into memory clinic and greets Dr Sherry Watson

SUZIE O’SULLIVAN: I am 58 years old and last June I was diagnosed with younger onset dementia. About three years ago I started to notice little things. Language - just occasionally, you know, words weren’t there.

09:49

Sherry and Suzie walk down corridor

At work, my job as a receptionist, I had trouble with new technology. I would notice that I had a lot of spelling mistakes, or I had multiples of the same letter in a word that didn’t belong there. I went to a GP and the first time it was very much pointed out to me ‘Oh, they’ll all be just symptoms of menopause.’




10:19

Sherry and Suzie into consulting room

It was getting on towards two years. And yeah, I guess frustration, and just not having any answers, I kept persevering. And finally, I was given a referral to the Cognitive Dementia and Memory Service - but I call it the memory clinic - at Barwon Health here in Geelong.

10:47

Suzie undergoing language/memory tests

DR SHERRY WATSON: Suzie was diagnosed with younger onset dementia in June last year. In particular, a variant, one of the frontotemporal dementias, and that involved testing her memory.

11:12


Not just her straight recall but her ability to manipulate information in her mind. Very specific language testing, her understanding of the words, her ability to retrieve words. Her ability to describe concepts and her ability to imagine situations.

11:27

Suzie and Sherry Watson

SUZIE O’SULLIVAN: I am so grateful I found you. I do l often wonder Dr Watson if I still would have a diagnosis if I wasn’t referred to the memory clinic.


DR SHERRY WATSON: There was a whole team of people that assessed Suzie, including neurologists, GPs, myself, various allied health people and neuro psychological testing - particularly important.

11:48


DR SHERRY WATSON: What’s happening with your symptoms these days?


SUZIE O’SULLIVAN: I think it’s, luckily, a fairly slow degeneration. I know my brain feels more chaotic.




12:11


I still have that slowness of thinking about how the words—

DR SHERRY WATSON: You’ve really got to make an effort to get the right words out.


SUZIE O’SULLIVAN: Yeah, exactly.

12:26


DR SHERRY WATSON: It can be quite difficult to deliver a diagnosis of a progressive degenerative disorder to anybody, but particularly in somebody Suzie’s age.

12:34

Sherry 100%. Super:
DR SHERRY WATSON

Everybody wants to know, how long have I got. What’s the rate of progress? And the answer is invariably- don’t really know.

12:47

Suzie and Sherry Watson

SUZIE O’SULLIVAN: People see you functioning, so they have trouble accepting your diagnosis.

13:01


DR SHERRY WATSON: There are statistics that can say people with a diagnosis like Suzie’s can last somewhere between two and 10 years. Some people go downhill very, very rapidly. Again, depending on the flavour of dementia,


Suzie and Dr Sherry continues

that rate of progress can be different.


DR SHERRY WATSON: Are you cooking?


SUZIE O’SULLIVAN: Yes. Yes, I am.

13:17


I had already noticed, and it has increased, recipes that I knew so well… were starting to go. And you know, I’ll think about a recipe that I’ve cooked maybe for 20, 30 years…

13:21


DR SHERRY WATSON: There’s no specific cure nor any specific drug treatment at this point for younger onset dementia. There’s a lot of research going on.

13:36


However, the fact there is no cure doesn’t mean there is no management.

13:48

Sherry Watson 100%

It’s very important to make that distinction.

13:54

Looking at MRI

DR SHERRY WATSON: So, we are looking at the front of the brain. We would be looking at whether there’s any shrinkage of brain tissue.


SUZIE O’SULLIVAN: I guess when you do

13:59

Suzie in consult room. Dr Watson explains MRI

get diagnosed it’s a shock but you also then have to think well, it is a positive. If I'm going to have it, I know what it is and I'll deal with it my way.

14:05

Freeze frame Sally. CARD: Frontotemporal dementia often affects language and behaviour.
As it develops, the vast majority of people need 24 hour care.
It is fatal.


12:23

Mandy laying on the bed being affectionate with Garry. Super: MAY 2017






14:40


MANDY LOVELL: Garry’s now 54 years of age and he has been living with younger onset Alzheimer’s Disease for about seven years now. I’m a psychologist and I retired from that work because Garry’s support needs started to increase. Last August the decision really had to be made to place Garry in care. And that was an admission that I couldn’t look after him by myself at home any more. Garry became psychotic. He also developed myoclonic jerks, which can make you trip and fall. And he had those jerks all day and through the night as well.

14:50

Mandy 100%. Super:
MANDY LOVELL

It was 24 hours a day monitoring and it just became too much.

15:48

Mandy and Garry in Garry’s room at care facility. Mandy shaves Garry

So, where we are now is an aged care facility and it’s not what Garry wanted, but there isn’t currently any other choice available. He wanted to be in a place among his peers. Around younger people with similar interests and similar music tastes.

15:55

Garry lying on bed

Garry was always petrified of this happening to him and one of the greatest things that he was most fearful of was being left alone and forgotten about.

16:22

Mandy lying on bed with Garry

It’s really quite tiring and exhausting and it’s very, very difficult to watch the process of this disease. And the impact that it has on a person, particularly if you just adore them.

16:38

Garry lying on bed. Freeze frame. CARD:
About 25,000 Australians have younger onset dementia.
Often, they are diagnosed in their forties and fifties.


16:58

Prof. Ames walking down corridor to visit Garry

MANDY LOVELL: Professor David Ames is Garry’s psycho- geriatrician and has been since 1995. So he’s worked with us

17:11

Garry experiencing a myoclonic jerk

at every stage.


PROFESSOR DAVID AMES: We often see this sort of restless jiggling.

17:25

Mandy, Garry and Prof Ames

How is going with the myoclonic jerks, the little twitches he gets sometimes?


MANDY LOVELL: I think when he is lying down or relaxing we see a lot of them. Yeah so, they’re still a bit of an issue.

17:30


PROFESSOR DAVID AMES: You feeling alright Garry?


GARRY LOVELL: Yeah.


PROFESSOR DAVID AMES: Good. Good. Who’s this here? Who’s with you today?... That’s Mandy isn’t it?... She’s in nearly every day.


17:42


PROFESSOR DAVID AMES, OLD AGE PSYCHIATRIST: Garry’s got a slightly unusual illness. Probably only two or three percent of the patients we see with dementia due to Alzheimer’s disease have familial onset Alzheimer’s disease.

18:00


The majority have late onset or sporadic Alzheimer’s Disease.

18:10

Dr Ames sitting beside Garry in bed. Super:
PROF DAVID AMES
Old age psychiatrist

Someone of Garry’s age, who’s in his mid 50s, who’s relatively healthy, who’s looked after his health through his life, unless he gets pneumonia, this thing might go on for some years to come.

18:15

Garry and Mandy’s wedding photo

MANDY LOVELL: Let’s have some breakfast.

18:25

Mandy feeds Garry

What have we got? Porridge. You ready?


GARRY: Yes.


MANDY: Open. Open. Beautiful.

18:31


GARRY LOVELL: I like it.


MANDY LOVELL: You like it. Good. That’s great. I’m glad you do. Great. It’s nice.

18:44

Garry blows on Mandy, laughs

Oh, kiss… No, blow. [laughs] Misread that one.


PROFESSOR DAVID AMES: People with dementia are twice as likely to die of pneumonia as people who haven’t got dementia. They are twice as likely to die in accidents and that might be anything from walking in front of a bus to tripping over and breaking your hip.

18:56

Mandy continues to feed Garry

The treatments we’ve currently got help some people a bit for a while and they’re certainly better than nothing.





19:17

Prof. Ames sitting on edge of Garry’s bed

Most people would like to know what they can do to prevent themselves getting dementia due to Alzheimer’s disease. There’s a little bit of evidence that control of vascular risk factors, things like hypertension, high cholesterol, cigarette smoking, may have a little bit of an impact. And studies that follow older people through over time seem to find that those who are physically active, intellectually engaged and socially engaged may do better over time than those who are not.

19:24

Mandy continues to feed Garry

Mandy has gone into this with her eyes open. But it’s very difficult, both to see someone you love deteriorating and the sheer number of hours that you spend caring for that person.

19:48


I think this has been a very long difficult road for both of them.

20:01

Mandy and Garry kiss

MANDY LOVELL: Nice kiss. Thanks… They’re the moments that I kind of live for I guess, because it is a bit of recognition that you do know who I am which is quite lovely. It is very hard to gauge I think how much Garry knows me at times. So I think there are little moments and times when I think he does, but a lot of the time now I’m not sure that’s the case.

20:05


Generally speaking, if people are friendly to Garry he will be lovely and friendly back and I have heard him tell some of the nurses that he loves them. So I’m not sure that being told ‘I love you’ is kind of exclusively for me, but I will take it. I will take it every time.

20:48

Garry and Mandy hug, lie on bed. Mandy laughing. Fade to black.


21:15

Exterior. Alzheimer’s Australia building


21:27

Brian and Heather drive in, get out of car and walk

HEATHER FISCHER: After a very long journey, Brian was last year diagnosed with Alzheimer’s. Brian’s just turned 79.

21:34


My reaction to the diagnosis was -- good, we have something now that we can work on. And Brian’s reaction --

21:48

Heather 100%. Super:
HEATHER FISCHER

he said, ‘Thank God I am not a bastard’. So it was that relief, and we came out of there feeling a million dollars, which was really quite silly, but it was like, we can do something now.

21:59

Brian and Heather enter support group workshop

The relationship just came back straightaway. We were now best friends supporting each other and we were husband and wife. We were a team together.

22:15

Bernadette leads workshop

BERNADETTE MILSTED: We are all here for a Living with Dementia Support Group.

22:29


Certainly, for Brian and Heather it was a big step. They took a lot of courage for Brian to come along to the group.

22:36

Brian and Heather in workshop

He has been noticing that he can’t do things he used to do as well any more. He’s no longer that executive in charge, and responsible and competent.

22:41


The process of the disease in your brain has been going for on 15, maybe even 20, years. Very, very slowly.

22:55


Very subtle little things; it could be lots of other things, so the doctors are not all experts in this field, so getting a referral and being consistent and persistent in following through.



23:01

Couple in workshop

MAN IN WORKSHOP: But there were changes, especially in language.


WIFE: Comprehension, trouble making sense of things and trouble working things out. Problem solving was really difficult.

23:13


BERNADETTE MILSTED: There’s all different types of dementia,

23:27

Bernadette 100%. Super:
BERNADETTE MILSTED
Dementia counsellor,
Alzheimer’s Australia

there’s over 100 different varieties. So Alzheimer’s is the most common form of dementia that’s diagnosed.

23:31

Workshop

It is what they call a sporadic disease. It affects people quite randomly. Every demographic of society will be affected with about the same percentage. We do a lot of work on risk reduction. There aren’t a lot medications available, but you can do lots of things in your lifestyle. All those classic things

23:38

Bernadette 100%

of not smoking, limit your alcohol intake, healthy diets, physical exercise, and every piece of research that comes out re-emphasizes that physical exercise is probably the number one thing that is going to lower your risk.

24:05

Workshop

BERNADETTE MILSTED: It’s not uncommon for me to hear that it takes two years to get a diagnosis.





24:22

Brian and Heather in workshop

HEATHER FISCHER: It took us a lot longer to have a diagnosis – it was 11 years. Our GP first noticed that there was something wrong, but unlike you - Brian’s language is perfect. His comprehension was perfect. He can read, write. He is very eloquent and so therefore they felt there was nothing wrong with him.

24:26


BRIAN FISCHER: When I sat down, he said Mr Fischer, Brian, we have a diagnosis of dementia and my first word – ‘Bullshit. I do not have dementia. Old people get dementia. I’m not anywhere near 80’ – I was 79 I think.

BRIAN FISCHER: My diagnosis has helped me

24:48

Brian 100%

come to grips with some of the things that I’ve always put off for tomorrow. I don’t need to do it.

25:10

Workshop

Now I would say it’s a pity that all that didn’t happen 10 years earlier and I should have been much more receptive.

25:20

Freeze frame on Brian. CARD: Alzheimer’s disease is triggered by clumps of protein on the brain.
In most cases it is not known what causes this.


25:32

Suzie at home. Walks down hallway and answers door. Greets Nicola

SUZIE O’SULLIVAN: [to dog] Who’s here? Who is it?


NICOLA BROAD: Hello. Welcome home.


NICOLA BROAD: Suzie and I have been best friends since we were 18, 19 years old, so we’ve come a long, long way together.

25:45


It was really hard when Suzie told me that she had been diagnosed with dementia, because like a lot of people I think of dementia as something an old person has.

26:05

Suzie opens bottle of champagne

But I said, “Suzie we’ve got 20 years, you’ve got 20 years to worry about that.”

26:17




Nicola 100%. Super:
NICOLA BROAD

And she said, “No Nic,” She said, “This one could be anywhere between two and eight years to ten years.” And I think we both shed a tear.

26:21

Suzie gets box of photos from cupboard

SUZIE O’SULLIVAN: I have a job for you, Nicola. We are going to go through some photos. I am going to get organised to start this digital photo album.

26:32

Nicola and Suzie go through photos.

Suzie pulls out photo of herself and Nicola

NICOLA BROAD: So you want your children?


SUZIE O’SULLIVAN: I do. I want my children, and family. And I want your children… Oh my God.

26:44


NICOLA BROAD: Oh, dear.


SUZIE O’SULLIVAN: How old is that?


NICOLA BROAD: I remember I was crying because I was leaving you.


SUZIE O’SULLIVAN: You wouldn’t have been 20 then, would you?



26:58


NICOLA BROAD: No… no.


SUZIE O’SULLIVAN:. That was probably pre-champagne. It was probably Bailey’s.

27:10


NICOLA BROAD: That was our Gladstone drink.


SUZIE O’SULLIVAN: That was.

27:16

Nicola and Suzie continue looking at photos

SUZIE O’SULLIVAN:. One of the things I want to focus on this year is to make a digital memory album. It will keep the people that I love the most, and the people that have meant the most to me in my life… it will keep them alive. That’s my hope. It will keep them alive in my memories for as long as possible.

27:22


And I really would love to complete photo albums for my children, Kate and Sam.


SUZIE O’SULLIVAN: That’s probably one of the last photos I’ve got of them together.

27:45


NICOLA BROAD: So you need to write these things down then, don’t you?


SUZIE O’SULLIVAN: I know. I should write it on the back.


NICOLA BROAD: Yeah, on the back of them all, so that you can -- because in time you won’t remember where they were.


27:58


It’s just hard to imagine that there will be a day that Suzie won’t remember our past, her life – everything that is in these photos.

28:09


Yeah, it is hard to believe that that may be the case one day. So it is important that she does these digital photos, but it is really difficult to imagine.

28:18

Looking at photos of children

And all our kids. Little faces. God, the memories. The times we’ve had.


SUZIE O’SULLIVAN: That’s the five of them together. Yeah.

28:29

Looking at photos. Suzie gets teary. Nicola and Suzie clasp hands

I can’t comprehend not knowing these faces. How do you come to terms with not knowing your own children?

28:40

Nicola hugs Suzie

I love you.


NICOLA BROAD: I love you too.


SUZIE O’SULLIVAN: We’ll be right. We’ll be right.


NICOLA BROAD: Well, we’ve just got to do a lot of fun times in the meantime, don’t we?


SUZIE O’SULLIVAN: Yep, we do. We’ve got to make new memories. Yeah. Make new memories. That’s right.


NICOLA BROAD: More memories.


SUZIE O’SULLIVAN: More memories then. More memories. More memories for the photo album.

28:55

Mandy and Garry in Garry’s room


29:32


MANDY LOVELL: Are you excited? Rodger’s coming. He’s coming to visit you.


GARRY LOVELL: Now?


MANDY LOVELL: Yeah, very soon.


GARRY LOVELL: Who?


MANDY LOVELL: Rodger. Your friend Rodg.


GARRY LOVELL: Oh gawd. [laughs]

29:40


MANDY LOVELL: He won’t be happy with that.


GARRY LOVELL: Oh no. That’s good.


MANDY LOVELL: It is, it’s really good.

29:59

Rodger arrives to see Garry

RODGER: Gaz. It’s Rodg. How are you, mate? Good to see you.

30:08


MANDY LOVELL: There are a lot of people who find it very, very difficult to come and visit and spend time in a nursing home.

30:14

Rodger assists Garry inside

It is very, very confronting but it is really, really helpful for us when people do visit.

30:26

Rodger and Garry in Garry’s room looking at photos on wall

RODGER LORD: Look at the photos Gaz. Who’s that? Who’s that?... Do you want to lie down?

30:39

Garry sitting on bed with Rodger. Garry starts to lie down.

No, you gotta stay up because we are going to have lunch Gaz ... lunch won’t be far away. So we’ll have a bit of food… Come on, Gaz. Up this way. That’s the way. Lean on me. On ya, Gaz. Good man.

30:45

Mandy brings lunch

RODGER LORD: I met Garry just after high school. My friendship with Garry hasn’t wavered, like I’ve always been close to Garr. When he was diagnosed, obviously it was really hard in the beginning to come to terms with.

31:07

Rodger helps Garry eat lunch. Super:
RODGER LORD

Just a little bit of assistance just helps, and just maintaining that connection with Garry is really important to me. So – because there’s still Garry there. Aren’t you, Gaz?

31:21

Rodger feeds Garry

You’re still in there. Here Gaz, try this. That’s it. So there’s no struggle for me to come in here and help.

31:33


It’s all done with love and that’s what it’s about.

31:42

Exterior. Mandy and Garry’s home


31:50

Garry and Mandy arrive at home and into kitchen

MANDY LOVELL: I love bringing Garry home, and I do it as much as I can. When Garry is home there is a sort of a sense of familiarity. So it’s lovely to watch his responses and his reactions to things,

31:54

Garry looking around house

particularly when you know – and he loves having a bit of a look outside into the garden and having a look and seeing what is in and around the house.


32:15


Having a bit of a look around? Okay, well you have a look.


MANDY LOVELL: I’d love Garry to be living here

32:25

Mandy

at home if he was well enough. Yes, that would be great if we could manage that.

32:37

Mandy with Garry. She hugs him

MANDY LOVELL [to Garry]: Hi, it’s me. I’m here again. I’m here again.


MANDY LOVELL: I think one of the cruellest things about dementia is that it starts to rob you of the ability to communicate. So it’s about finding different ways to communicate, with body language.


MANDY LOVELL [to Garry]: You’re pretty cute.

32:47

Garry walks around house

MANDY LOVELL: It’s really difficult to lose little pieces of the person that you love. Sometimes that happens quite quickly.

33:11

Mandy 100%. Super:
MANDY LOVELL

And other times you kind of don’t realise that it’s happened until a little bit later.

33:20

Garry lying on bed

Fade to black.

And I think the hardest thing to witness is watching someone that you love suffer.






33:31

Brian and Heather at home with Brian’s list

HEATHER FISCHER: How are you going? Are you checking your list? Checking your list?


BRIAN FISCHER: Yeah, I did hang the washing out, actually. I didn’t tick that.


HEATHER FISCHER: You’ve made the bed?


BRIAN FISCHER: Yes.


HEATHER FISCHER: This one here.

33:46

Brian unloads the dishwasher

BRIAN FISCHER: Unload the dishwasher?


HEATHER FISCHER: Yep.


BRIAN FISCHER:. Haven’t done that. About to do it.


HEATHER FISCHER: Fine. No worries. Want a hand with it?


BRIAN FISCHER: No, I think I can remember where everything goes.

33:59

Close on Brian’s list

If I never had this list I would be in a state of confusion.

34:10

Brian 100%. Super:
BRIAN FISCHER

I know the first thing I’ve got to do is to boil the kettle, but what else was on during the day. I think had to go to the post office. What else was I going outside for? What do I have to get dressed for?

34:16

Brian unloading dishwasher

HEATHER FISCHER:. I reckon that dishwasher works better on the sensor.


BRIAN FISCHER:. Yeah, I do too.

34:31


HEATHER FISCHER: Today is a really good day and the list and everything is working extremely well.

34:38


Now, on a bad day Brian will wake up and he will just say to me ‘My head is a fuzz,

34:44

Heather 100%

everything is jumbled. I can’t think. I can’t do this.’ And he just has a real panic, but it’s explaining that the head is just mixed up and on those days, we just modify that list.

34:51

Brian unloading dishwasher. Heather looks at list

HEATHER FISCHER: What’s left on the list?


BRIAN FISCHER: Hey?


HEATHER FISCHER: Keep going. Keep going. Sorry to interfere. Sorry.

35:06

Brian unloading dishwasher

BRIAN FISCHER: Heather has been through hell, but the worst part is she’s had to make so many huge changes because she can’t rely on me.

35:11

Brian 100%

I need Heather on my arm all the time, but I don’t want to have Heather on my arm all the time – it’s not fair to her.

35:23

Brian unloading dishwasher

HEATHER FISCHER: Is there anything you need help with? That you’re not sure where it goes, just leave it on the bench and I’ll pop it away for you later on. Okay?


HEATHER FISCHER: We know we love each other.

35:31

Heather 100%

We know that we have been colleagues and best friends and husband and wife. We know that the relationship is different,

35:43

Brian at sink filling glass with water

but I just keep saying to him, “Well, I’m your carer now and we’ve got a fourth relationship now. The others are still there -- and they are still there. You still make new memories.

35:52

Freeze frame Brian. CARD:
There are no drugs that cure dementia.
Some offer temporary relief but not all people respond.
There are currently more than 40 trials in Australia looking for a cure or more effective treatments.


36:05

Ext. Suburban houses


36:22

Suzie’s house exterior

SUZIE O’SULLIVAN: The hardest thing was telling Kate and Sam,

36:26

Kate collects gift bag from bed.

but I knew that I had to do that really early on, so I did that within a couple of days of the diagnosis.

36:30

Kate gives gift to Suzie

KATE O’SULLIVAN: I’ve just got you a little something.


SUZIE O’SULLIVAN: It was incredibly hard, because it is not what you think, at 57, you’re going to be telling your children.


SUZIE O’SULLIVAN [to Kate]: Thanks, darling. You being here is a great Mother’s Day present.

36:37

Suzie opens gift

SUZIE O’SULLIVAN: We don’t hide things from one another, it’s so important for me that they know everything about it.

36:53


There’s a chance that I’ve passed on that genetic mutation to both Kate and her brother Sam.


KATE O’SULLIVAN: So Mum has put a sample of her DNA, some blood, in a bank in Melbourne.

37:02


My brother and I have chosen not to test it. I guess because we’re both still quite young and we don’t feel that it’s necessary to test it right now.

37:19

Kate 100%. Super:
KATE O’SULLIVAN

For me, I’m not sure that I ever will, I just don’t know if I want to know. I think the way that I am going to live my life is assume that I have it and live the best life that I can, but hope that I don’t.

37:28

Suzie and Kate on sofa. Kate read card

I don’t think it is anything for me to be too worried about now; I’d much rather focus on Mum.

37:39


SUZIE O’SULLIVAN: I’ve told people who I love dearly

37:48

Suzie 100%. Super:
SUZIE O’SULLIVAN

that unless they want a good slap, don’t ever refer to me as a dementia sufferer. I’m not suffering with dementia, I’m just another person diagnosed at a younger age, and there is a lot of people out there like me.

37:51

Suzie, Kate and dog on sofa

Fade to black

SUZIE O’SULLIVAN:. Well, I feel very spoilt. Very spoilt.

38:07

Exterior. Brian and Heather’s house. Night.



38:18

Brian reading story to grandchildren

BRIAN FISCHER: Ooh, I’s a big bad scary wolf. I don’t want to talk to him.

38:22


CHLOE: He’s a monster.


BRIAN FISCHER: Does he look like a monster?


HEATHER FISCHER: Brian loves

38:27


reading to the children. He also makes up stories about different characters.

38:33


BRIAN FISCHER: Let me tell you something buddy. Just because I’ve got big pointy teeth,,,

38:38


HEATHER FISCHER: And the next time he sees the grandchildren they want the next episode, which was fine except he kept forgetting where he was up to or even what the story was about.

38:44

Brian gets notebook from his pocket

BRIAN FISCHER: I realise, because of Alzheimer’s, there will be a time that comes when I am unable to read. But I still do want to have that contact with them.

38:52

Brian with kids lying on bed

BRIAN FISCHER: Do you know Poppy has difficulty remembering some things sometimes?


CHLOE:. You missed the best bit.


HEATHER FISCHER: My husband is still my husband, he’s still my friend, he’s the best he can do. He’s still a dad and a grandad.

39:05


BRIAN FISCHER:. I think so, but I can’t remember.

39:19

Heather 100%

HEATHER FISCHER: Okay, he has his times, but he is still that person. He just happens to have Alzheimer’s.

39:22

Brian 100%




Fade to black

BRIAN FISCHER: I’m sure that there must be a time when whatever is in here doesn’t work and yet a person has their eyes open and is still breathing…[cries]… Sorry. I can’t come to the thought of not having, not being able to interact with my children or my grandchildren. My family… Sorry.

39:29

Suzie at Pilates class

DR SHERRY WATSON: There’s been some good research in other types of dementia that shows that exercise, particularly exercise in company, can help stave off or slow down the progress.

40:34


PILATES TEACHER:. I know your brain is wanting to use your arms…


SUZIE O’SULLIVAN: What I’ve taken on is Pilates, which I really, really love. I can feel it clearing my head as well.

40:51


I started to learn, certainly before my diagnosis, but definitely after it, the importance of all forms of exercise.

41:07


I am energised. I feel so different than when I walked in. Yeah, I know I am physically tired, but like Gemma says, something has switched on in my brain.

41:17


They now believe, you know, what’s good for our heart is good for our brains. My dementia diagnosis, it is what it is. I can’t fix it and my form of dementia there is no treatment to take along the journey,


41:28


Fade to black

so you only have two options -- to crawl into a ball and let it come get you, or you just get out there and live.

41:46

Mandy opens blinds in Garry’s room

MANDY LOVELL: I’m 45 years of age now and I met Garry when I was 28, about 17 years ago. I like to be there when he wakes up in the morning. It’s really important to me to do to keep up the connection with him, to keep up the support and just to keep loving him for as long as I possibly can.

42:03

Framed photo. Mandy and Garry

I don’t know how long we have together.

42:33

Mandy and Garry at home

[Garry sings]


MANDY LOVELL: I don’t know how things will unfold.

42:37

Mandy 100%

What keeps me going I think is just love. He’s my best friend.

42:50

Mandy and Garry lying together on bed

Fade to black

And I made a commitment to cherish him and care for him. And I really want to see that through.

43:01

End


43:17





CREDITS:

producer

JANINE COHEN


editor

SIMON BRYNJOLFFSSEN


assistant editor

JAMES BRAYE


camera

RON FOLEY


sound

GEOFF KRIX


designer

PETA BORMANN


digital producer

LISA MAIN


legal

LYNETTE HOUSSARINI


publicity

SAFIA VAN DER ZWAN


promotions

LAURA MURRAY


sound mixer

EVAN HORTON


colourist

SIMON BRAZZALOTTO


post production

JAMES BRAYE


additional vision

ALZHEIMER’S AUSTRALIA

CORRINE MAUNDER (FIRE FILMS)


theme music

RICK TURK


titles

LODI KRAMER

make-up

BOZENA ZUREK


studio wardrobe

MARIA PETROZZI


studio director

JANET ARGALL



program assistant

CLARE O’HALLORAN


production manager

WENDY PURCHASE


supervising producer

MORAG RAMSAY


executive producer

SALLY NEIGHBOUR


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