Children of Terror
10:00:00 Image: slowmo training camp video
Bob Baer: Thousands, thousands. They probably don’t even have a record of how many they put through al Qaeda ..
Bill Cowan: … they’re emotionally traumatised… they’re physically traumatised so the reality is these kids are in a psychological state from which they’ll probably never come out.
Kelly McCann: They don’t care if they get arrested, they don’t care if they hurt you or you hurt them, they don’t care whether they see tomorrow ..
Bill Cowan: …even as we speak, 5 years from now new 5 year olds, 7 year olds, 10 year olds will be entering those camps for longer term projects.
Bob Baer: They’re everywhere .. they’re in Morocco, they’re in Algeria, Spain or in London. There is no membership list of people who’ve been through ..
Bill Cowan: Certainly their use of children, indoctrinating, planning, teaching , psychologically altering, motivating .. is right down the path of how those guys think about things.
Kelly McCann:It is a war. To them it is a 100 year war, it’s not going to go away.
Baroness Cox: It is part .. of a deeply disturbing, International movement training young impressionable boys for international militant jihad and I think the implications are very, very serious.
Kelly McCann: I think that to the average person who eats corn flakes in the morning in Nebraska, I think it is fairly terrifying.
Bob Baer: The problem is, in these camps is mostly believers. If they weren’t believers when they went in, they left believers.
10:01:47 Title: Children of Terror
10:01:52 PART 1:
10:01:52 Pix: Training camp video
Comm: This film tells the story of the next generation of terrorists; it reveals how children as young as six years old are being trained for global terror; it exposes training camps in the remote African nation of Sudan; here children from across the Islamic world are brainwashed in the ways of hatred and death; camps where children are trained to use weapons of mass destruction.
10:02:24 Pix: Lutfallah
Comm: For the first time, a man who ran security for the child terror training camps speaks out; he tells of the horrific nature of what happens there; we reveal how Muslims are raising money in the US and Europe to fund these child terror camps; and secret tapes show how these camps are backed by the very top men in Government - while extending a hand of friendship to the West.
10:02:53 Damien Lewis PTC:
They enter those camps as innocent children just five years old – they leave as highly trained terrorists brainwashed with a hatred of the West – and then they are sent to form sleeper cells waiting to strike at targets across the free, democratic world.
10:03:11 Pix: man crossing swamp
10:03:17 Africa & Sudan map
Pix intercut with Commentary: skull, refugees, church & service
Comm: In the remote and vast wildlands of Sudan, Africa’s largest country, Africa’s longest civil war has rumbled on largely unnoticed for decades .. There are some two million dead and some six million refugees .. At its simplest, the war has pitted a black African, largely Christian, or moderate Muslim south of the country against a Northern Arab-dominated regime.
10:03:43 Pix: military parade, marching, Muslim women
Comm: Called The National Islamic Front, it seized power in a 1989 military coup, imposing a Taliban-like rule of Islamic Sharia law. People were sentenced to amputation for stealing and public flogging for adultery.
10:04:03 Pix: man with sword, military hardware, skeletons
Comm: Though supported by less than 10% of the population, the regime has waged war on all its opponents; a war distinguished by horrific level of savagery against civilians; a war that has attracted condemnation – but little real action - from the outside world.
10:04:23:12 Pix: people in the swamp
10:0436: I/v - John Prendergast:
“It probably is the most destructive war since the second world war and the statistics of course are numbing – 2 million people dead, the highest displacement rates in the world and it just really doesn’t have any parallel globally.”
10:04:54 I/v - Nina Shea:
“The South is primarily Christian and traditional African religions, non-Muslim people, and the North imposed .. a very harsh form of Islamic Sharia law where people are stoned, flogged, we even have reports of crucifixion. So it was resistance to this forcible Islamisation that’s triggered this conflict .. a civil war which has turned in to a genocide on the part of the Government ..”
10:05:19 Pix: corpses
10:05:25 I/v - Congressman Wolf Pix: Congressman Wolf in Sudan
“My first visit to Sudan was in 1989, I went to Khartoum and I’ve seen terrible conditions, the war, violence, camps, sickness, fear, terror. As you know almost 2 million people have died in the war. It’s a pretty tough place for the people both Christians, Muslims and animists; the Muslim population has suffered here too.”
10:05:54 Pix: weapons, corpses
Comm: But while fighting its internal civil war against the people of South Sudan, the regime prepared to wage war on a second front – international terrorism.
Pix: Government meeting, Osama Bin Laden
In the early 90s, the National Islamic Front invited the world’s terrorists to make Sudan their home. Foremost amongst them was the Saudi-born Osama Bin Laden. Here was the perfect country in which to build his business empire - to fund the training of his legions for Jihad, or Holy War, against the West.
10:06:32 I/v: Congressman Wolf
“Osama Bin Laden lived there from 91 to 96. His construction company did a lot of work, built a lot of roads, did a lot of things and there have been terrorist training camps outside Khartoum for years and years.”
10:06:55 I/v: John Prendergast Pix: training camp
“He incubated his businesses and his financial empire that allowed for the financing of many of the terrorist acts that occurred during the mid and late 1990’s. The United States placed Sudan on its list of state-sponsored terrorism for a reason, because they were involved in supporting and facilitating acts of terrorism globally.”
10:07:18 I/v: Nina Shea:
“.. if you wanted to bring together all the terrorist groups in the world you wouldn’t have to go beyond Khartoum because they’re all there, they all have offices there. And of course Sudan was the host of OBL. He really solidified and consolidated his terrorist agenda in Khartoum.”
10:07:37 Pix: young men jogging with guns
Comm: Yet post the terror attacks of 9/11, Sudan has been winning friends in the West. Why? Because Sudan claims to have joined the coalition in its war against terror; it claims to have joined the fight against the world terror networks; to have abandoned its own support for terrorism.
Pix: military personnel crossing bridge, explosions
Comm: But many doubt the credibility of such claims.
10:08:05 I/v: John Prendergast:
“This is a survivalist regime they adapt constantly. They adapt on the terrorism front, they adapt on the war front, they adapt on this question of religious discrimination to the extent that they’re forced to.”
10:08:18 I/v Congressman Wolf:
“The best comment was the one that President Reagan used to use with regard to the Soviet Union, trust but verify and I think you’re going to need verification to make sure that they are keeping their word.”
10:08:33 I/v Nina Shea: Pix: Turabi giving speech
“This extreme ideology that the Government has adopted as a ruling principal, principal of Governance is based on an ideology of hatred and there’s a great deal of deception on the part of the Government vis-à-vis the West…so that, they have done a good job of hiding this and pretending to co-operate on some level after 9/11.”
10:08:58 Pix: video of children’s training camp ..
10:09:00
Comm: Pretending to cooperate may be just the right description. For there is a new nightmare the West needs to wake up to. Terror training camps for children. This video tells a terrifying story - of children being trained for global jihad; breeding the next generation of suicide bombers and aircraft hijackers.
10:09:26
Comm: .. This child terror camp is based in Sudan. Though the sound quality is poor, the video has a chilling voiceover in English.
10:09:38 Pix: training camp video
Commentator: "Look at the faces of these children… these are faces of the future of Islam that the West fails to see and the West is afraid of."
10:09:51 Pix: training video
Comm: English is the universal language of communication; the video was produced to raise money from Muslims around the World - to fund these training camps. It was never supposed to fall into the hands of the media ..
10:10:07 Pix: Omer setups
Comm: This man, a moderate Muslim of Sudanese origin, now lives in the UK. He explains how he got hold of the video – and how thousands were sent out to Muslims around the world.
10:10:18 I/v Omer i/v:
“I got communication from the gulf state a friend of mine there, he’s an activist, a political activist and he mentioned the wide range of distribution of the tape going there in the Gulf, Saudi Arabia and he got a copy of that. It was used as part of the campaign to generate income and support in Sudan.”
10:10:49 Pix: Omer watching video.
Comm: Thousands of videos had been sent out; the money raised went to fund the training camps; when Omer watched the video he was shocked at what he saw.
10:10:59 Omer i/v:
“The idea of training these people or these kids is to brainwash them number one, and lock them in to that idea, extreme idea, to become aggressive fighters and aggressive Islamic extremists, send back to their homelands, because most of them are not Sudnese, and activate within their environments everywhere that ideology, so it’s a very dangerous and very serious implication.”
10:11:42 Pix: training video on tv screen
Comm: He was horrified at what he saw and heard on the tape – the twisting of Islam in the minds of mere children into a religion of hatred ..
10:11:52 Video Commentator:
“Some the Koran devotees in Sudan are only 4, 5 and 6 years old. How this puts us adults to shame”.
“We see the children drilling and training their bodies, their minds in order to be soldiers as well as hafiz of the Koran”.
“Each one of these children has been trained to use an AK47 assault rifle and will do their duty to Allah and the Ummah when called upon to do so”.
10:12:24 Pix: training camp
Comm: So the video says that these young children have each been trained with a machine gun and will do their duty to the Muslim world when called to do so; the exact detail of that duty is left unsaid – but the video clearly states that these are the children the “West fails to see and the West is afraid of.”
10:12:50 Pix: Omer
Comm: Omer passed this tape to the media so that these child camps could be exposed .. and if possible stopped. He says the training that goes on there goes against the very heart of Islam
10:13:06 Omer i/v:
"This camp is specifically and exclusively meant to educate people in a military way and aggressive way, of killing and hatred and violence so it’s totally different from what the Madressa used to learn or to teach.”
10:13:25 Pix: set-up Nina Shea watching video
10:13:31 Nina Shea: “Oh my God”.
Comm: We showed the video to Nina Shea, an expert on Sudan, who works for a US-based religious freedom charity. She was clearly shocked by what she saw.
10:13:44 Nina Shea sync:
“It’s a tragedy. It’s a human tragedy for them and terrifying for us”.
10:13:56 I/v Nina Shae:
“This was a situation where the whole child’s formative years were spent being indoctrinated with a terrorist ideology, taught to hate the other, to hate non-Muslims, to hate Jews, to hate Christians, to hate women, and they didn’t know anything else.”
10:14:19 Pix: training camp video
Comm: But what is most shocking is that the people raising the money to fund these camps are based in Europe and America – the very places these children are being trained to attack.
10:14:30 End of Part 1
10:14:45 Part 2:
10:14:45 Pix: training camp men giving out money
Comm: The training camp video shows men from Britain and Germany giving money to the children; repeatedly, the voiceover urges those watching the video to give money as their religious duty .. It stresses that they will be judged ill by Allah unless they do so.
Pix: training video
10:15:04 Video commentator:
“How many of us will have an answer to the question Allah, Allah asks us: Brother, what did you do for me? How many of us will have an answer that protects us on that day? Give what you can afford but give, for a little goes a long way in the land of Islam”.
10:15:28 Pix: training camp video
Comm: But what exactly is the money being donated for? Posing as a wealthy Islamic supporter, Omer went to the British city of Leicester, to an address given on the video .. He met the British man shown giving money on the tape.
10:15:46 Omer i/v:
“We had an interesting discussion with them .. and they are more extreme than the regime itself. That tape has been used to generate donations to send back to their brothers in Sudan. Showing that tape with that characteristics to generate money to support that line of training which is kids and camps.”
10:16:24 Pix: training camp tape
Comm: Money was being donated by Muslims across Europe and the US. But it remained unclear exactly what the money was for. Where were the children being sent after the camps? To attack who? When? And how?
10:16:39 Pix: Lutfallah
Comm: Those are questions that this man can answer. He is uniquely qualified to do so: for several years, he ran the security for one of these child terror training camps in Sudan. For the first time, he speaks out about the terrible truth of what he witnessed there.
10:16:58 I/v Lutfallah:
“After many months it became clear that this was not a normal religious school. It was a centre of evil training. The camp was visited by a number of Government officials from both the military and security forces; they were conducting training to a very high military standard. The children were being trained with such sophisticated weaponry that I feared for my own life and that of my colleagues. We had basic machine guns – theirs were the newest models.
The level of training was equal to that of Western military forces.”
10:17:41 I/v Lutfallah:
“The children were being taught on assault courses: climbing high walls, negotiating obstacles on fire and crawling through mud.
10:17:49 Pix: Training camp video
10:17:57 I/v Lutfallah:
“During daily training the children would chant against the West: ‘America, we are arming ourselves against you. We are ready to stand and attack you’ ”.
10:18:07 Pix: Lutfallah watching training camp video
Comm: We showed him our training camp video; although this is not the camp where he worked, he recognised a similar child terror training facility. This means that there were at least two camps in Sudan training child terrorists.
10:18:24 I/v Lutfallah:
"This does not surprise me; this is how the regime operates – planting terror in the minds of children. There are many of these camps in Sudan.”
“This is a terrible situation; but to me it’s not so shocking as I have seen situations like this before; but for others it must look appalling. Just imagine if this video was seen by the International community .. But I am very surprised by the attitude of the Europeans, coming over and supporting this; this is not what we expect from the British or the Germans.”
10:19:14 Pix: Lutfallah walking outside
Comm: Our eye witness now lives in exile in Europe; he has excellent anti-terrorist credentials. He is perhaps the only person ever to have raided one of Osama Bin Laden’s training camps and survived .. In 1992 Bin laden was secretly building his terror network in Sudan. Lutfallah, then a senior security officer, found out about his terror training camps.
10:19:36 Pix: boys jogging with guns
10;19:41 I/v Lutfallah:
“I started to notice a large number of Arabs coming through the airport under sponsorship of a company called Wadi Al Aqiq, which belongs to Osama Bin Laden. They were Egyptian, Algerian, a mixture of Arab nationalities, but the majority were Egyptian and Palestinian.”
10:20:02 Pix: Documents from immigration
Comm: The men came through the airport on false documents .. They were sent to training camps on the outskirts of the capital city, Khartoum.
10:20:10 I/v Lutfallah: Intercut with shots of weapons stores
“The type of training was of a very high quality, even exceeding that of my own men. The people there were being trained to use automatic weapons and targeting equipment. We raided the camp and seized explosives and guns and confiscated documents, rubber stamps from embassies and forgery equipment. I handled the investigation personally”
10:20:44 I/v Lutfallah: Intercut with shots of weapons stores
“I was 100 percent certain from the beginning, due to the information we gained from our interrogations, that these Arabs were involved in plans to attack Western interests throughout the world, American and British as well as the Saudi targets.”
10:21:06 Pix: Lines of prisoners
Comm: Back at his headquarters, he interrogated the 50-odd prisoners, but none would talk. Then, a young student broke down and confessed ..
10:21:18 I/v: Lutfallah:
“Most refused to give any details .. But I did succeed with one student from a University in Egypt who broke down and exposed everything. He told me the nature of the operation and the training ..”
10:21:36 Pix: Prison
Comm: Half-way through the interrogation, Lutfallah was told he had an unexpected visitor waiting to see him ..
10:21:41 I/v Lutfallah:
“During the interrogation, one of my officers said a man by the name of Sheikh Osama was outside waiting to see me. This was at a crucial point during the interrogation and I told the officer that he would have to wait. The visitor was not happy at having to wait and informed my superiors. Later I discovered that it had been Osama Bin Laden.”
10:22:06 Pix: set-up of Bob Baer
Comm: Lutfallah wasn’t the only person to notice the training camps .. Ex-CIA agent Bob Baer also served in Sudan during the early stages of the National Islamic Front regime ..
10:22:18 I/v Bob Baer: Intercut with Bin Laden Pix
“It was natural for Bin Laden when he had to re-locate somewhere, to go to Khartoum. First of all he steadily recruited people .. So he was left alone .. The Saudis denied he was a problem right through the 90s ..”
10:22:32 Pix: Lutfallah
Comm: Lot Fallah expected to get congratulated by his superiors for raiding the training camps;
Instead, he was ordered to drop the investigation ..
10:22:42 Pix: Eastern border in Sudan / training camp video
Comm: He was punished by being sent to run security on the remote eastern border of Sudan .. The area included the child training camp – but at first he thought it was just an Islamic
school.
10:22:58 Pix: Slums
Comm: He was shocked to discover that most of the children were not even Sudanese; they came from poor families across the World – Kenya, Tchad, Nigeria, Morocco - as well as Sudan .. Most were prisoners – they were captured and forced into the camp.
10:23:16 I/v Lutfallah:
“As soon as I arrived I realised that this camp was a very secretive place, so I started to gather information: the camp was built by the National Islamic Front, and designed to train children between the ages of 10 and 16 – they came from all over the world - Central Africa, Cameroon, Uganda, Nigeria, Chad, Kenya .”
10:23:47 I/v Lutfallah:
“Without a shadow of a doubt, the children were brought there by force .. They were not volunteers – they were brought there against their will. Some told me that their poor families had been taken advantage of. Those who ran the camp had told them that they would take care of the children and pay the family money.”
10:24:07 Pix: Driving / burnt huts / slaves walking
Comm: In effect these kids had become slaves of terror .. For centuries, children have been taken in slave raids in Sudan. This slavery still goes on today and is well documented; Arab mujahideen from the north attack villages – burning the huts, slaughtering the cattle and killing those who resist. The women and children are captured, tied up and marched north, to be sold into slavery ..
10:24:32 Pix: Caroline Cox in Sudan
Comm: Baroness Cox, a Tory Peer and Deputy Speaker of the House of Lords, has investigated the slave trade extensively.
10:24:44 I/v Baroness Cox: Intercut with pix of military / young boy
“NIF regime leaders come down, mobilise the mujahideen, the murahaleen, they tell them this is militant jihad, but the way they’re treated is horrific. I remember meeting a young lad once who was literally crawling back to his village he tried to escape and had been found by Arabs in the north and they had stuck spears in his hips but he was still somehow managing to drag his way back to his village and community.”
10:25:16 I/v Nina Shea: Intercut with group of slaves
“There was slave raids which is one of the most heinous crimes under international law, that’s going on, that’s been well documented, organisations like the Rift Valley Institute has come up with 10,000 names that they know of, and identifying characteristics of the people who have been enslaved .. and it’s just astonishingly monstrous what has happened to these people.”
10:25:45 Pix: Training camp video children
Comm: But what the children in these camps are being used for is a completely different level of slavery; They are the slaves of terror; they are being brainwashed in terror.. They know nothing else .. They leave the camps primed to kill ..
10:26:01 Pix: Lutfallah watching trainig video
Comm: Lufallah knows how dangerous the child graduates are; and that they are sent out to hit Western targets ..
10:26:07 Lutfallah I/v: Intercut with training camp video
“The children are brainwashed to the point of being insane, capable of any crimes. It goes against all humanity, they reject normal life .. These people present a grave danger to all communities throughout the world. They’re capable of doing anything. I believe the danger is escalating and will pose an even greater threat in the future.”
10:26:42 Pix: setup Bill Cowan
Comm: Bill Cowan is an ex-US Marine (check intro) and one of the world’s foremost terrorism experts.
10:26:49 I/v Bill Cowan: Intercut with training camp footage
“I don’t think it’s common knowledge anywhere that children that young are being trained for long-range terrorist activities against us. …somebody’s going to be deploying them against us at some point – it may well be these children ..”
10:26:58 I/v Bob Baer:
“The whole idea of Bin Laden is indoctrinating people and vetting them from an early age. I mean who’s going to go on a suicide operation and attack a hard target, and probably lose their lives? I mean it’s crucial for Bin Laden to have clerics .. not so much trainers as religious mentors to bring these people along because what you don’t want is to get to an operation and then someone backs out.”
10:27:25 Pix: setup Kelly McCann
Comm: Stealing these children from their families has frightening implications, says ex-Special Forces terror expert Kelly McCann.
10:27:33 I/v Kelly McCann:
“What you’ve done is in that situation is create someone, a man without a country, the only country he has is the philosophy and it can happen anywhere in the world, he can be employed anywhere in the world because as long as he’s faithful to it, he’s done the best he could in the life that he’s been dealt so it’s a troubling thing isn’t it?”
10:27:52 Pix: Training camp video
Comm: But these children are not just victims of terror – they are also horribly brutalised by the very people who run the camps ..
10:28:03 End of Part 2
10:28:18 PART 3
10:28:18 I/v Lutfallah:
“I would call them victims of terror. These were innocent children and they’ve been deliberately and systematically brainwashed and turned into terrorists. So I would call them victims of terror, victims of the Government regime.”
10:28:46 Pix: Lutfallah watching training camp video / footage of video
Comm: Lutfallah says there is a good reason why none of the children are shown using guns in the video. It is nighttime, when all weapons are taken off the children, in case they try to escape. Why are they so desperate to run away? Because they have been brutalised in terrible, horrific ways .. by the camp trainers.
10:29:08 I/v: Lutfallah: Pix: Lutfallah speaks to camera in front of TV
“Can you imagine your son or your brother – as young as five or six - being brought here? To such shameful things.”
10:29:19 Pix: from Harsh Face of Islam – boys being dragged along
Comm: Harsh treatment of children in Islamic religious schools has been well-documented .. But the level of abuse in the child training camp went way beyond just beatings ..
10:29:32 I/v Lutfallah: Intercut with Harsh Face of Islam – boy being whipped
“No-one knew exactly what was going. Occasionally we’d receive hospital reports which detailed abortions and bleedings due to the sexual violence .. The types of abuse ranged from sexual abuse to beatings. Sometimes conducted by older children in the camp - but the majority of the abuse came from the camp superiors .. I saw the local hospital records that documented the physical and sexual abuse inflicted by the superiors running the camp.”
10:30:11 Pix: Training camp video - trainers
Comm: How those who claim to uphold Islam can justify homosexual rape of small children beggars belief ..
10:30:17 DGL PTC:
“What parts of our lives can really be seen as safe when children as young as 5 years old are brainwashed to be terror zombies? Stolen from their families, they’re given just one reason to exist – the destruction of the free, democratic world.”
10:30:34 Pix: Training camp video
Comm: Kids did escape from the camps and came to our security officer begging for help ..
10:30:39 I/v Lutfallah:
“One child escaped, complaining about the terrible treatment in the camp. He told me that many of the children suffered not only mental abuse but also physical abuse. He said he didn’t want to live like this and begged me to take him home.”
10:30:54 I/v Lutfallah: Intercut with Pix of remote Sudan
“Not many children attempted escape because of the sheer isolation of the camps. These places were surrounded by desert and bush. Not knowing the area meant that even if the kids did escape, they wouldn’t know which direction to travel in.”
10:31:09 Pix: Slums / training camp video
Comm: So, small children are stolen from their families and forced into the camps. There, they are taught just three things: to memorise the Koran; to use weapons and fight; and hatred of the West. And at night they are brutalised and abused by those who cast themselves as their protectors. Imagine what that does to their minds. Imagine what that makes them capable of.
10:31:36 I/v Kelly McCann: Intercut with training camp shots of the children
“How would you undo it? .. if you asked a psychologist - ‘how would we undo this, if we had a kid that had been indoctrinated from 5 to 15 and, it was this very intense adverse abusive sexual and physical experience and every day he was imbued with this stuff, how would you undo it’?”
10:31:56 I/v Bill Cowan:
“These kids probably, certainly they’re emotionally traumatised… they’re physically traumatised so the reality is these kids are in a psychological state from which they’ll probably never come out.”
10:32:07 I/v Nina Shea:
“It brainwashes children and it uses fear of punishment, of death, raping children. It operates by going in to a village, kidnapping the children and taking them, brainwashing them, turning them in to sex slaves, into soldier slaves ..”
10:32:25 I/v Baroness Cox:
“And that you should take young children from their homes, their communities, their families, their culture, their tradition and subject them to that appalling indoctrination in jihad training seems to me to be an ultimate evil.”
10:32:40 I/v Kelly McCann:
“The most dangerous men in the world are men who don’t care. They don’t care whether they get arrested, they don’t care if they hurt you or you hurt them, they don’t care whether they see tomorrow or they live to 50 years old, that’s the most dangerous men in the world ..”
10:32:55 Pix: UN vehicle in Sudan / Gaspar Biro’s UN reports
Comm: Lutfallah’s eyewitness testimony is backed up by United Nations investigations on the ground. Top UN human rights investigator, Gaspar Biro, investigated the very same training camp that Lutfallah ran security for. His reports concluded that:
10:33:12 Pix: Rostrum of reports and UN in Sudan
Comm: “The Sudan Government exerted pressure on the local government in Sinnar state to create a separate camp…run by an Islamic organisation in Mabrouka, Dinder province. The aim was to provide military training to the boys in the school. It is to be noted that the age of the children was between 5 and 16 years”
10:33:38 Pix: rostrum and UN aid base
Comm: After 6 years work, Gaspar Biro resigned from the UN and left the Sudan. His reason? Nothing had been done to stop the training camps, and the world remained ignorant of their existence. And the Sudan regime just denied the terror training camps were there.
10:33:57 Pix: Training camp video
Comm: So is this state-sponsored terrorism? The Sudan regime claims it is now working with the West for peace and to combat terrorism.. But we have evidence to prove otherwise ..
10:34:09
Comm: These images were filmed inside the Sudanese embassy in Malaysia - by an embassy diplomat. They show the serving Vice President of Sudan speaking to a select audience of Muslims .. He is the main negotiator with Washington and London for negotiations to try to bring and end to Sudan’s civil war .. But this is what he says behind closed doors ..
10:34:35 Ali Osman Mohammed Taha on Embassy tape:
"This is going to be an open ended battle between us and the USA… an ongoing struggle. We should not fear about what lies ahead – we should not weep or cry. We have to look to our defence and the struggle ahead and go into this battle, which will last a long time. The fact is we exist and we will continue to exist and the struggle will continue no matter how much it costs – and at the end we will be victorious, God willing.”
10:35:13 Pix: Set ups of Khattab
Comm: The tapes were passed to us by this man. He filmed them whilst working in the Sudan Embassy. He has since come into exile in Europe. He says the tapes show how Sudan is tricking the West - extending a false hand of friendship .. whilst continuing to sponsor terrorism.
10:35:32 I/v Khattab:
"I realised that the regime is not working for the welfare or interests of the Sudanese people. On the contrary, they are working for their own individual interests. I realised that the Government were deceiving the world and the Sudanese people. So I chose to defect and fight from the outside and to speak out.”
10:35:55 Ali Osman Mohammed Taha on Embassy tape:
"There is of course a lot of talk about terrorism, about Sudan harbouring terrorists – they say the Arab Afghan group Jamaat-Islamia and the Palestinians are here in Sudan. It is true that in the aftermath of the Gulf War we sought support from these, our Islamic brothers, financially so that they would stand shoulder-to-shoulder with Sudan against any aggression. We set up ways for these brothers to enter and exit the country easily – so as to attract Islamic and Arabic money into Sudan”.
10:36:38 Pix: Footage from Embassy tape
Comm: So whilst Sudan claims to have abandoned the path of terror, the words of the top people in Government suggest otherwise .. And our security expert suspects that Osama Bin Laden was the hidden source of funds behind the training camp.
10:36:56 I/v Lutfallah: Intercut with Bin Laden pix
“What made me suspect that Osama Bin Laden was involved in the camp was that part of it was funded by a Saudi person: the only person that Saudi could possibly have been is Osama Bin Laden ..”
10:37:19 Pix: laboratory / explosions
Comm: Yet the final part of this terror jigsaw puzzle is the most frightening of all .. Lutfallah would only discover it by accident; he says the children had access to weapons of mass destruction, and were being trained to use them ..
10:37:37 End of Part 3
10:37:53 PART 4:
10:37:53 Pix: Chemical weapons reports / chem weapons suits..
Comm: The Sudan regime stands accused of using chemical weapons in its war against its own people. Aid organisation, the United Nations, and neighbouring Governments have all alleged the use of chemical weapons. In 1999 UN workers were hit by a choking gas after a Government bombing raid on a village .. Chemical weapons experts were sent in to investigate; they took samples from craters full of a bright red liquid .. Animals died .. Victims came out in painful blisters .. Nurses and doctors flew in to treat the survivors ..
10:38:38 I/v Mary Hippe: Intercut with pix from hospital
“We interviewed 32 patients and most people started with burning of the eyes, watering of the eyes, burning of the nose throat and chest pains and cough. About two days after then they also appeared with vomiting and diarrhoea. Some of the women within the next day or so also started to have threatened abortions ..”
10:39:01 Pix: laboratory
Comm: The British, Finnish and US Governments all took the allegations seriously; they carried out official analysis of the samples .. But the evidence was inconclusive ..
10:39:14 I/v Julian Perry-Robinson:
“These reports have a long history; they are allegations which have been repeated in many ways and forms over many years. They are embedded in our consciousness of Chemical Warfare that is happening in the real world today – that the international treaties have supposed to have stopped. If the regime is going to retain credibility, if people are to go on being confident of this regime, then this is the type of allegation, an allegation of use, that really has to be investigated and, one would hope, laid to rest.”
10:39:52 Pix: Lutfallah / laboratory
Comm: These reports of chemical weapons use are backed up by what our security officer saw; next door to the training camp, he discovered what he believes was a chemical weapons facility.. It was staffed by foreign experts.
10:40:04 I/v Lutfallah: Intercut with laboratory footage
“Two Russian experts got off the helicopter, accompanied by a Sudanese Colonel, and walked to the weapons complex carrying two Samsonite briefcases. Only the two Russians went inside the laboratory – no one went with them. They opened the weapons crates, each of which contained a smaller wooden crate with a glass flask inside. They took long spatulas from their briefcases and used them to take samples from the flasks; they put on protective breathing masks and gloves as if they were about to carry out tests. The liquid was an oily yellow colour.”
10:40:57 I/v Lutfallah:
“These people are capable of doing anything. Anytime anywhere - they are all terrorists . Even that word terrorists is not strong enough for them. They are the type of people who can strap explosives to themselves and blow themselves up alongside their targets – either facilities or people.”
10:41:19 Pix: Laboratory
Comm: And at the child terror camp, there was a secret laboratory that even our security officer wasn’t allowed access to .. But he finally uncovered what went on there .. This was the facility where the children learned to build and use chemical weapons.”
10:41:30 I/v Lutfallah:
“They bring teams of specialists from the Government Military laboratory – they come to teach the children in the use of unconventional weapons. This is clear from the type of specialist teams they use; it can only mean one of two things – either they’re teaching them how to build bombs or other unconventional methods of killing.”
10:41:56 I/v Lutfallah: Intercut with explosion pix
“Of course there is a large space in the training camp where they test the explosive devices they build; when we heard these huge explosions we’d ask what they were doing. They’d tell us not to worry – they were just testing things. Testing bombs and explosives – but we were told not to interfere.”
10:42:19 I/v Bill Cowan:
“These are all things we have to look forward to seeing whether we like it or not. And children like this, indoctrinated early on and being able to fit into society, at an early age, somehow given access to chemical or biological capabilities or weapons – it’s a nightmare for disaster ..”
10:42:37 Pix: Training camp video
Comm: So these young children are first kidnapped, brutalised and dehumanised by their trainers ..Then they are brainwashed in terrorism and an unreasoning hatred of the West .. And finally they have access to weapons of mass destruction ..
10:42:54 DGL PTC:
“There must be thousands of these children graduated from these terror training camps. The question is; where are they all now? And how do we track them and stop them launching their next attacks? And what do we then do with them?”
10:43:09 I/v Bill Cowan: Intercut with BL Pix
“.. these terrorists, al-Qaeda, Bin Laden .. are always looking at the long-term solution, we in the West are short-term solutions, instant gratification. Those guys are taking a very long view at what their doing , what their goals and objectives are and how they plan to get there.. certainly their use of children, indoctrinating, planning, teaching , psychologically altering, motivating, right now, for things 5, 10 or 15 years from now is right down the path of how those guys think about things.”
10:43:41 I/v Baroness Cox:
“I think it’s extremely disturbing. Certainly there is a lot of evidence that there have been these terrorist training camps in Sudan and also they are consistent with what we’ve heard in the past so it sounds to me disturbingly credible.”
10:43:55 I/v Bob Baer: Intercut with boys with guns
“They’re everywhere, I mean there’s no record of them, they’re in Morocco, they’re in Algeria, Spain or in London. There is no membership list of people who’ve been through al-Qaeda. Who hung on, who didn’t? They don’t know, they simply don’t know. Because the problem is the people in these camps – if they weren’t believers before they went in they left believers ..”
10:44:22 I/v Bill Cowan: Intercut with USA suburbia pix
“The problem is society’s not going to realise where they come from if the Al Qaeda or whoever places them properly… as far as the Western world or as far as civilisation understands they’re just a couple more kids coming out of an impoverished difficult state in Africa, now they’re part of our community we’re going to take care of them but they never quite realise what these kids, what kind of psychological state that they’re in and the fact that they’re probably captive in that psychological state and not likely to get out of it.”
10:44:50 Pix: Training camp video children
Comm: These then are the children of terror. They come from all over Africa and no one knows where they are now .. Or what they are planning .. Or the orders they are awaiting ..
10:45:04 I/v Kelly McCann:
“They wouldn’t be deployed on their own without leadership, they wouldn’t be deployed without some kind of planning cell to monitor them, make sure they fit in to society and then actually do tactically what they’re supposed to do.”
10:45:16 I/v Bill Cowan:
“These kids, the al-qaeda or other terrorists, whoever it is that deploys them properly, these kids will come in to borders, cross borders, will come in to countries with absolutely no visibility whatsoever. They won’t be profiled, they won’t be looked at because they’re under suspicion.
They’re just anonymous children and that’s the perfect scenario for Al-Qaeda or other terrorists; get your guys implanted in a cellular structure, without any visibilty, without anuybody paying attention to them, then the day you need them, the day you make that telephone call, you know they’re going to be there to do what you asked them to do..”
10:45:51 Pix: Training camp video
Comm: And Sudan is not alone. From the Palestinian lands to the Indonesian islands, other children are also being trained. The biggest danger is that we know so little about it .. and about the masterminds behind it all.
10:46:06 I/v Baroness Cox:
“It is part, I think of a deeply disturbing, International movement and I think the implications are very serious because you can actually see in the way they speak and their whole demeanour, for many of them this has become a way of life, a commitment and they’re ideologically indoctrinated.”
10:46:38 I/v Bob Baer: Intercut with Bin Laden Pix
“In the early 90s the US didn’t understand Bin Laden .. They completely missed it, they looked at Bin Laden as a sort of clown, incapable of leading anybody. He wasn’t considered a threat. I mean they just missed it. I think they’re missing it today because they’re looking at Bin Laden as an individual that brainwashes people and then once you take that pool of brainwashed people and arrest them all, or kill them or whatever, that’s the end of it. They don’t realise the depth of support for BL throughout the Middle East, in Asia as well, and Africa.”
10:47:15 Pix: Training camp video / London street scenes
Comm: We know the children of terror have been trained .. and deployed. The question is what we now do about it ..
10:47:26:15 I/v Kelly McCann: Intercut with London scenes
“Really the answer is two-fold and that’s education and poverty. The more that people understand and are educated about what’s outside the closely held Islamic fundamental beliefs about the West, what is it about the US, what is it about the UK? That they know about other religions, they know about other philosophies, that they know there are other alternatives of getting out of that poverty situation. Whether you can get there from here or not is a whole different question.”
10:47:51 I/v Bob Baer:
“The more the Middle East conflict picks up, the more believers you’re going to have. As the war in Iraq goes from bad to worse, once Sharon really starts going after Palestine, which he probably will, some of these people might pop up from the camps in Sudan. Call them sleepers if you like ..”
10: 48:10 I/v Bill Cowan: Intercut with Leicester street scenes
“The problem is that the harder we crack down on our Muslim communities and don’t forget that 95% of these people support the West and are not part of what’s going on, but the harder we crack down on them, the more likely we are to send some of them to the bad side .. Our hope in finding bad guys will be because members within the community see something that’s not right and bring it to law enforcement authorities. If we crack down too hard on those communities, if we crack down inappropriately, we’re going to end up reaping the bad side of them and not the good side of them.”
10:48:41 Pix: Sudanese Government Military parade (Harsh Face of Islam)
Comm: And in the case of Sudan itself, many argue that the regime is inseparable from the terror ..One will not end until the other does ..
10:48:51 I/v Lutfallah:
“This regime is a terrorist regime, they suppress the Sudanese people, they export terrorism to the rest of the world based on their ideology and as long as they exist they will continue to produce more terrorists and extremists.”
10:49:11 I/v Omer:
“I feel very strong and angry about it because I see a cheap way of manipulating my own religion in such a way to distort the facts of that religion and it makes me very hard for me to fight back and to re-explain to the people what they have seen and what they know about Islam is totally wrong.”
10:49:35 I/v Baroness Cox: Intercut with Training camp video
“To allow these training camps to continue without investigation and without serious analysis of their implications and the implications for us who live in the free world, of their agenda, their policies, their programmes, it’s suicidal.”
10:49:54 Pix: US countryside , London statics
Comm: For now, some of those kids trained in the terror camps are out there. Somewhere .. Waiting .. It only takes the terrorist to be lucky once to have a major terror strike. Our security services have to be lucky every time in order to stop them.
10:50:11 I/v: Nina Shea:
“I think that the West has much to fear from this phenomenon. I think we are absolutely negligent if we don’t look in to this even from our own security. We have a great burden and responsibility out of pure humanitarian reasons but for those who feel it’s someone else’s problem, it’s a country far away, think again.”
10:58:37 I/v Congressman Wolf:
“It’s very dangerous and you see now the reports of youngsters in the Middle East strapping bombs on themselves and going out so I think it’s a very tough problem.”
10:50:48 I/v: Bob Baer:
“If they weren’t believers when they went in, they left believers.”
10:50:52 Pix: slomo training camp video
Comm: When fascism almost triumphed in Europe, it took a united world to stop it. With children now being brainwashed as terror victims, we are seeing the rise of a new, religious fascism. If it were not for brave and principled moderate Muslims speaking out, we would remain blind to the threat posed from the children of terror ..
10:51:22
End card: We asked the Government of Sudan for an interview for this programme but they declined ..
Credits
10:00:00 Image: slowmo training camp video
Bob Baer: Thousands, thousands. They probably don’t even have a record of how many they put through al Qaeda ..
Bill Cowan: … they’re emotionally traumatised… they’re physically traumatised so the reality is these kids are in a psychological state from which they’ll probably never come out.
Kelly McCann: They don’t care if they get arrested, they don’t care if they hurt you or you hurt them, they don’t care whether they see tomorrow ..
Bill Cowan: …even as we speak, 5 years from now new 5 year olds, 7 year olds, 10 year olds will be entering those camps for longer term projects.
Bob Baer: They’re everywhere .. they’re in Morocco, they’re in Algeria, Spain or in London. There is no membership list of people who’ve been through ..
Bill Cowan: Certainly their use of children, indoctrinating, planning, teaching , psychologically altering, motivating .. is right down the path of how those guys think about things.
Kelly McCann:It is a war. To them it is a 100 year war, it’s not going to go away.
Baroness Cox: It is part .. of a deeply disturbing, International movement training young impressionable boys for international militant jihad and I think the implications are very, very serious.
Kelly McCann: I think that to the average person who eats corn flakes in the morning in Nebraska, I think it is fairly terrifying.
Bob Baer: The problem is, in these camps is mostly believers. If they weren’t believers when they went in, they left believers.
10:01:47 Title: Children of Terror
10:01:52 PART 1:
10:01:52 Pix: Training camp video
Comm: This film tells the story of the next generation of terrorists; it reveals how children as young as six years old are being trained for global terror; it exposes training camps in the remote African nation of Sudan; here children from across the Islamic world are brainwashed in the ways of hatred and death; camps where children are trained to use weapons of mass destruction.
10:02:24 Pix: Lutfallah
Comm: For the first time, a man who ran security for the child terror training camps speaks out; he tells of the horrific nature of what happens there; we reveal how Muslims are raising money in the US and Europe to fund these child terror camps; and secret tapes show how these camps are backed by the very top men in Government - while extending a hand of friendship to the West.
10:02:53 Damien Lewis PTC:
They enter those camps as innocent children just five years old – they leave as highly trained terrorists brainwashed with a hatred of the West – and then they are sent to form sleeper cells waiting to strike at targets across the free, democratic world.
10:03:11 Pix: man crossing swamp
10:03:17 Africa & Sudan map
Pix intercut with Commentary: skull, refugees, church & service
Comm: In the remote and vast wildlands of Sudan, Africa’s largest country, Africa’s longest civil war has rumbled on largely unnoticed for decades .. There are some two million dead and some six million refugees .. At its simplest, the war has pitted a black African, largely Christian, or moderate Muslim south of the country against a Northern Arab-dominated regime.
10:03:43 Pix: military parade, marching, Muslim women
Comm: Called The National Islamic Front, it seized power in a 1989 military coup, imposing a Taliban-like rule of Islamic Sharia law. People were sentenced to amputation for stealing and public flogging for adultery.
10:04:03 Pix: man with sword, military hardware, skeletons
Comm: Though supported by less than 10% of the population, the regime has waged war on all its opponents; a war distinguished by horrific level of savagery against civilians; a war that has attracted condemnation – but little real action - from the outside world.
10:04:23:12 Pix: people in the swamp
10:0436: I/v - John Prendergast:
“It probably is the most destructive war since the second world war and the statistics of course are numbing – 2 million people dead, the highest displacement rates in the world and it just really doesn’t have any parallel globally.”
10:04:54 I/v - Nina Shea:
“The South is primarily Christian and traditional African religions, non-Muslim people, and the North imposed .. a very harsh form of Islamic Sharia law where people are stoned, flogged, we even have reports of crucifixion. So it was resistance to this forcible Islamisation that’s triggered this conflict .. a civil war which has turned in to a genocide on the part of the Government ..”
10:05:19 Pix: corpses
10:05:25 I/v - Congressman Wolf Pix: Congressman Wolf in Sudan
“My first visit to Sudan was in 1989, I went to Khartoum and I’ve seen terrible conditions, the war, violence, camps, sickness, fear, terror. As you know almost 2 million people have died in the war. It’s a pretty tough place for the people both Christians, Muslims and animists; the Muslim population has suffered here too.”
10:05:54 Pix: weapons, corpses
Comm: But while fighting its internal civil war against the people of South Sudan, the regime prepared to wage war on a second front – international terrorism.
Pix: Government meeting, Osama Bin Laden
In the early 90s, the National Islamic Front invited the world’s terrorists to make Sudan their home. Foremost amongst them was the Saudi-born Osama Bin Laden. Here was the perfect country in which to build his business empire - to fund the training of his legions for Jihad, or Holy War, against the West.
10:06:32 I/v: Congressman Wolf
“Osama Bin Laden lived there from 91 to 96. His construction company did a lot of work, built a lot of roads, did a lot of things and there have been terrorist training camps outside Khartoum for years and years.”
10:06:55 I/v: John Prendergast Pix: training camp
“He incubated his businesses and his financial empire that allowed for the financing of many of the terrorist acts that occurred during the mid and late 1990’s. The United States placed Sudan on its list of state-sponsored terrorism for a reason, because they were involved in supporting and facilitating acts of terrorism globally.”
10:07:18 I/v: Nina Shea:
“.. if you wanted to bring together all the terrorist groups in the world you wouldn’t have to go beyond Khartoum because they’re all there, they all have offices there. And of course Sudan was the host of OBL. He really solidified and consolidated his terrorist agenda in Khartoum.”
10:07:37 Pix: young men jogging with guns
Comm: Yet post the terror attacks of 9/11, Sudan has been winning friends in the West. Why? Because Sudan claims to have joined the coalition in its war against terror; it claims to have joined the fight against the world terror networks; to have abandoned its own support for terrorism.
Pix: military personnel crossing bridge, explosions
Comm: But many doubt the credibility of such claims.
10:08:05 I/v: John Prendergast:
“This is a survivalist regime they adapt constantly. They adapt on the terrorism front, they adapt on the war front, they adapt on this question of religious discrimination to the extent that they’re forced to.”
10:08:18 I/v Congressman Wolf:
“The best comment was the one that President Reagan used to use with regard to the Soviet Union, trust but verify and I think you’re going to need verification to make sure that they are keeping their word.”
10:08:33 I/v Nina Shea: Pix: Turabi giving speech
“This extreme ideology that the Government has adopted as a ruling principal, principal of Governance is based on an ideology of hatred and there’s a great deal of deception on the part of the Government vis-à-vis the West…so that, they have done a good job of hiding this and pretending to co-operate on some level after 9/11.”
10:08:58 Pix: video of children’s training camp ..
10:09:00
Comm: Pretending to cooperate may be just the right description. For there is a new nightmare the West needs to wake up to. Terror training camps for children. This video tells a terrifying story - of children being trained for global jihad; breeding the next generation of suicide bombers and aircraft hijackers.
10:09:26
Comm: .. This child terror camp is based in Sudan. Though the sound quality is poor, the video has a chilling voiceover in English.
10:09:38 Pix: training camp video
Commentator: "Look at the faces of these children… these are faces of the future of Islam that the West fails to see and the West is afraid of."
10:09:51 Pix: training video
Comm: English is the universal language of communication; the video was produced to raise money from Muslims around the World - to fund these training camps. It was never supposed to fall into the hands of the media ..
10:10:07 Pix: Omer setups
Comm: This man, a moderate Muslim of Sudanese origin, now lives in the UK. He explains how he got hold of the video – and how thousands were sent out to Muslims around the world.
10:10:18 I/v Omer i/v:
“I got communication from the gulf state a friend of mine there, he’s an activist, a political activist and he mentioned the wide range of distribution of the tape going there in the Gulf, Saudi Arabia and he got a copy of that. It was used as part of the campaign to generate income and support in Sudan.”
10:10:49 Pix: Omer watching video.
Comm: Thousands of videos had been sent out; the money raised went to fund the training camps; when Omer watched the video he was shocked at what he saw.
10:10:59 Omer i/v:
“The idea of training these people or these kids is to brainwash them number one, and lock them in to that idea, extreme idea, to become aggressive fighters and aggressive Islamic extremists, send back to their homelands, because most of them are not Sudnese, and activate within their environments everywhere that ideology, so it’s a very dangerous and very serious implication.”
10:11:42 Pix: training video on tv screen
Comm: He was horrified at what he saw and heard on the tape – the twisting of Islam in the minds of mere children into a religion of hatred ..
10:11:52 Video Commentator:
“Some the Koran devotees in Sudan are only 4, 5 and 6 years old. How this puts us adults to shame”.
“We see the children drilling and training their bodies, their minds in order to be soldiers as well as hafiz of the Koran”.
“Each one of these children has been trained to use an AK47 assault rifle and will do their duty to Allah and the Ummah when called upon to do so”.
10:12:24 Pix: training camp
Comm: So the video says that these young children have each been trained with a machine gun and will do their duty to the Muslim world when called to do so; the exact detail of that duty is left unsaid – but the video clearly states that these are the children the “West fails to see and the West is afraid of.”
10:12:50 Pix: Omer
Comm: Omer passed this tape to the media so that these child camps could be exposed .. and if possible stopped. He says the training that goes on there goes against the very heart of Islam
10:13:06 Omer i/v:
"This camp is specifically and exclusively meant to educate people in a military way and aggressive way, of killing and hatred and violence so it’s totally different from what the Madressa used to learn or to teach.”
10:13:25 Pix: set-up Nina Shea watching video
10:13:31 Nina Shea: “Oh my God”.
Comm: We showed the video to Nina Shea, an expert on Sudan, who works for a US-based religious freedom charity. She was clearly shocked by what she saw.
10:13:44 Nina Shea sync:
“It’s a tragedy. It’s a human tragedy for them and terrifying for us”.
10:13:56 I/v Nina Shae:
“This was a situation where the whole child’s formative years were spent being indoctrinated with a terrorist ideology, taught to hate the other, to hate non-Muslims, to hate Jews, to hate Christians, to hate women, and they didn’t know anything else.”
10:14:19 Pix: training camp video
Comm: But what is most shocking is that the people raising the money to fund these camps are based in Europe and America – the very places these children are being trained to attack.
10:14:30 End of Part 1
10:14:45 Part 2:
10:14:45 Pix: training camp men giving out money
Comm: The training camp video shows men from Britain and Germany giving money to the children; repeatedly, the voiceover urges those watching the video to give money as their religious duty .. It stresses that they will be judged ill by Allah unless they do so.
Pix: training video
10:15:04 Video commentator:
“How many of us will have an answer to the question Allah, Allah asks us: Brother, what did you do for me? How many of us will have an answer that protects us on that day? Give what you can afford but give, for a little goes a long way in the land of Islam”.
10:15:28 Pix: training camp video
Comm: But what exactly is the money being donated for? Posing as a wealthy Islamic supporter, Omer went to the British city of Leicester, to an address given on the video .. He met the British man shown giving money on the tape.
10:15:46 Omer i/v:
“We had an interesting discussion with them .. and they are more extreme than the regime itself. That tape has been used to generate donations to send back to their brothers in Sudan. Showing that tape with that characteristics to generate money to support that line of training which is kids and camps.”
10:16:24 Pix: training camp tape
Comm: Money was being donated by Muslims across Europe and the US. But it remained unclear exactly what the money was for. Where were the children being sent after the camps? To attack who? When? And how?
10:16:39 Pix: Lutfallah
Comm: Those are questions that this man can answer. He is uniquely qualified to do so: for several years, he ran the security for one of these child terror training camps in Sudan. For the first time, he speaks out about the terrible truth of what he witnessed there.
10:16:58 I/v Lutfallah:
“After many months it became clear that this was not a normal religious school. It was a centre of evil training. The camp was visited by a number of Government officials from both the military and security forces; they were conducting training to a very high military standard. The children were being trained with such sophisticated weaponry that I feared for my own life and that of my colleagues. We had basic machine guns – theirs were the newest models.
The level of training was equal to that of Western military forces.”
10:17:41 I/v Lutfallah:
“The children were being taught on assault courses: climbing high walls, negotiating obstacles on fire and crawling through mud.
10:17:49 Pix: Training camp video
10:17:57 I/v Lutfallah:
“During daily training the children would chant against the West: ‘America, we are arming ourselves against you. We are ready to stand and attack you’ ”.
10:18:07 Pix: Lutfallah watching training camp video
Comm: We showed him our training camp video; although this is not the camp where he worked, he recognised a similar child terror training facility. This means that there were at least two camps in Sudan training child terrorists.
10:18:24 I/v Lutfallah:
"This does not surprise me; this is how the regime operates – planting terror in the minds of children. There are many of these camps in Sudan.”
“This is a terrible situation; but to me it’s not so shocking as I have seen situations like this before; but for others it must look appalling. Just imagine if this video was seen by the International community .. But I am very surprised by the attitude of the Europeans, coming over and supporting this; this is not what we expect from the British or the Germans.”
10:19:14 Pix: Lutfallah walking outside
Comm: Our eye witness now lives in exile in Europe; he has excellent anti-terrorist credentials. He is perhaps the only person ever to have raided one of Osama Bin Laden’s training camps and survived .. In 1992 Bin laden was secretly building his terror network in Sudan. Lutfallah, then a senior security officer, found out about his terror training camps.
10:19:36 Pix: boys jogging with guns
10;19:41 I/v Lutfallah:
“I started to notice a large number of Arabs coming through the airport under sponsorship of a company called Wadi Al Aqiq, which belongs to Osama Bin Laden. They were Egyptian, Algerian, a mixture of Arab nationalities, but the majority were Egyptian and Palestinian.”
10:20:02 Pix: Documents from immigration
Comm: The men came through the airport on false documents .. They were sent to training camps on the outskirts of the capital city, Khartoum.
10:20:10 I/v Lutfallah: Intercut with shots of weapons stores
“The type of training was of a very high quality, even exceeding that of my own men. The people there were being trained to use automatic weapons and targeting equipment. We raided the camp and seized explosives and guns and confiscated documents, rubber stamps from embassies and forgery equipment. I handled the investigation personally”
10:20:44 I/v Lutfallah: Intercut with shots of weapons stores
“I was 100 percent certain from the beginning, due to the information we gained from our interrogations, that these Arabs were involved in plans to attack Western interests throughout the world, American and British as well as the Saudi targets.”
10:21:06 Pix: Lines of prisoners
Comm: Back at his headquarters, he interrogated the 50-odd prisoners, but none would talk. Then, a young student broke down and confessed ..
10:21:18 I/v: Lutfallah:
“Most refused to give any details .. But I did succeed with one student from a University in Egypt who broke down and exposed everything. He told me the nature of the operation and the training ..”
10:21:36 Pix: Prison
Comm: Half-way through the interrogation, Lutfallah was told he had an unexpected visitor waiting to see him ..
10:21:41 I/v Lutfallah:
“During the interrogation, one of my officers said a man by the name of Sheikh Osama was outside waiting to see me. This was at a crucial point during the interrogation and I told the officer that he would have to wait. The visitor was not happy at having to wait and informed my superiors. Later I discovered that it had been Osama Bin Laden.”
10:22:06 Pix: set-up of Bob Baer
Comm: Lutfallah wasn’t the only person to notice the training camps .. Ex-CIA agent Bob Baer also served in Sudan during the early stages of the National Islamic Front regime ..
10:22:18 I/v Bob Baer: Intercut with Bin Laden Pix
“It was natural for Bin Laden when he had to re-locate somewhere, to go to Khartoum. First of all he steadily recruited people .. So he was left alone .. The Saudis denied he was a problem right through the 90s ..”
10:22:32 Pix: Lutfallah
Comm: Lot Fallah expected to get congratulated by his superiors for raiding the training camps;
Instead, he was ordered to drop the investigation ..
10:22:42 Pix: Eastern border in Sudan / training camp video
Comm: He was punished by being sent to run security on the remote eastern border of Sudan .. The area included the child training camp – but at first he thought it was just an Islamic
school.
10:22:58 Pix: Slums
Comm: He was shocked to discover that most of the children were not even Sudanese; they came from poor families across the World – Kenya, Tchad, Nigeria, Morocco - as well as Sudan .. Most were prisoners – they were captured and forced into the camp.
10:23:16 I/v Lutfallah:
“As soon as I arrived I realised that this camp was a very secretive place, so I started to gather information: the camp was built by the National Islamic Front, and designed to train children between the ages of 10 and 16 – they came from all over the world - Central Africa, Cameroon, Uganda, Nigeria, Chad, Kenya .”
10:23:47 I/v Lutfallah:
“Without a shadow of a doubt, the children were brought there by force .. They were not volunteers – they were brought there against their will. Some told me that their poor families had been taken advantage of. Those who ran the camp had told them that they would take care of the children and pay the family money.”
10:24:07 Pix: Driving / burnt huts / slaves walking
Comm: In effect these kids had become slaves of terror .. For centuries, children have been taken in slave raids in Sudan. This slavery still goes on today and is well documented; Arab mujahideen from the north attack villages – burning the huts, slaughtering the cattle and killing those who resist. The women and children are captured, tied up and marched north, to be sold into slavery ..
10:24:32 Pix: Caroline Cox in Sudan
Comm: Baroness Cox, a Tory Peer and Deputy Speaker of the House of Lords, has investigated the slave trade extensively.
10:24:44 I/v Baroness Cox: Intercut with pix of military / young boy
“NIF regime leaders come down, mobilise the mujahideen, the murahaleen, they tell them this is militant jihad, but the way they’re treated is horrific. I remember meeting a young lad once who was literally crawling back to his village he tried to escape and had been found by Arabs in the north and they had stuck spears in his hips but he was still somehow managing to drag his way back to his village and community.”
10:25:16 I/v Nina Shea: Intercut with group of slaves
“There was slave raids which is one of the most heinous crimes under international law, that’s going on, that’s been well documented, organisations like the Rift Valley Institute has come up with 10,000 names that they know of, and identifying characteristics of the people who have been enslaved .. and it’s just astonishingly monstrous what has happened to these people.”
10:25:45 Pix: Training camp video children
Comm: But what the children in these camps are being used for is a completely different level of slavery; They are the slaves of terror; they are being brainwashed in terror.. They know nothing else .. They leave the camps primed to kill ..
10:26:01 Pix: Lutfallah watching trainig video
Comm: Lufallah knows how dangerous the child graduates are; and that they are sent out to hit Western targets ..
10:26:07 Lutfallah I/v: Intercut with training camp video
“The children are brainwashed to the point of being insane, capable of any crimes. It goes against all humanity, they reject normal life .. These people present a grave danger to all communities throughout the world. They’re capable of doing anything. I believe the danger is escalating and will pose an even greater threat in the future.”
10:26:42 Pix: setup Bill Cowan
Comm: Bill Cowan is an ex-US Marine (check intro) and one of the world’s foremost terrorism experts.
10:26:49 I/v Bill Cowan: Intercut with training camp footage
“I don’t think it’s common knowledge anywhere that children that young are being trained for long-range terrorist activities against us. …somebody’s going to be deploying them against us at some point – it may well be these children ..”
10:26:58 I/v Bob Baer:
“The whole idea of Bin Laden is indoctrinating people and vetting them from an early age. I mean who’s going to go on a suicide operation and attack a hard target, and probably lose their lives? I mean it’s crucial for Bin Laden to have clerics .. not so much trainers as religious mentors to bring these people along because what you don’t want is to get to an operation and then someone backs out.”
10:27:25 Pix: setup Kelly McCann
Comm: Stealing these children from their families has frightening implications, says ex-Special Forces terror expert Kelly McCann.
10:27:33 I/v Kelly McCann:
“What you’ve done is in that situation is create someone, a man without a country, the only country he has is the philosophy and it can happen anywhere in the world, he can be employed anywhere in the world because as long as he’s faithful to it, he’s done the best he could in the life that he’s been dealt so it’s a troubling thing isn’t it?”
10:27:52 Pix: Training camp video
Comm: But these children are not just victims of terror – they are also horribly brutalised by the very people who run the camps ..
10:28:03 End of Part 2
10:28:18 PART 3
10:28:18 I/v Lutfallah:
“I would call them victims of terror. These were innocent children and they’ve been deliberately and systematically brainwashed and turned into terrorists. So I would call them victims of terror, victims of the Government regime.”
10:28:46 Pix: Lutfallah watching training camp video / footage of video
Comm: Lutfallah says there is a good reason why none of the children are shown using guns in the video. It is nighttime, when all weapons are taken off the children, in case they try to escape. Why are they so desperate to run away? Because they have been brutalised in terrible, horrific ways .. by the camp trainers.
10:29:08 I/v: Lutfallah: Pix: Lutfallah speaks to camera in front of TV
“Can you imagine your son or your brother – as young as five or six - being brought here? To such shameful things.”
10:29:19 Pix: from Harsh Face of Islam – boys being dragged along
Comm: Harsh treatment of children in Islamic religious schools has been well-documented .. But the level of abuse in the child training camp went way beyond just beatings ..
10:29:32 I/v Lutfallah: Intercut with Harsh Face of Islam – boy being whipped
“No-one knew exactly what was going. Occasionally we’d receive hospital reports which detailed abortions and bleedings due to the sexual violence .. The types of abuse ranged from sexual abuse to beatings. Sometimes conducted by older children in the camp - but the majority of the abuse came from the camp superiors .. I saw the local hospital records that documented the physical and sexual abuse inflicted by the superiors running the camp.”
10:30:11 Pix: Training camp video - trainers
Comm: How those who claim to uphold Islam can justify homosexual rape of small children beggars belief ..
10:30:17 DGL PTC:
“What parts of our lives can really be seen as safe when children as young as 5 years old are brainwashed to be terror zombies? Stolen from their families, they’re given just one reason to exist – the destruction of the free, democratic world.”
10:30:34 Pix: Training camp video
Comm: Kids did escape from the camps and came to our security officer begging for help ..
10:30:39 I/v Lutfallah:
“One child escaped, complaining about the terrible treatment in the camp. He told me that many of the children suffered not only mental abuse but also physical abuse. He said he didn’t want to live like this and begged me to take him home.”
10:30:54 I/v Lutfallah: Intercut with Pix of remote Sudan
“Not many children attempted escape because of the sheer isolation of the camps. These places were surrounded by desert and bush. Not knowing the area meant that even if the kids did escape, they wouldn’t know which direction to travel in.”
10:31:09 Pix: Slums / training camp video
Comm: So, small children are stolen from their families and forced into the camps. There, they are taught just three things: to memorise the Koran; to use weapons and fight; and hatred of the West. And at night they are brutalised and abused by those who cast themselves as their protectors. Imagine what that does to their minds. Imagine what that makes them capable of.
10:31:36 I/v Kelly McCann: Intercut with training camp shots of the children
“How would you undo it? .. if you asked a psychologist - ‘how would we undo this, if we had a kid that had been indoctrinated from 5 to 15 and, it was this very intense adverse abusive sexual and physical experience and every day he was imbued with this stuff, how would you undo it’?”
10:31:56 I/v Bill Cowan:
“These kids probably, certainly they’re emotionally traumatised… they’re physically traumatised so the reality is these kids are in a psychological state from which they’ll probably never come out.”
10:32:07 I/v Nina Shea:
“It brainwashes children and it uses fear of punishment, of death, raping children. It operates by going in to a village, kidnapping the children and taking them, brainwashing them, turning them in to sex slaves, into soldier slaves ..”
10:32:25 I/v Baroness Cox:
“And that you should take young children from their homes, their communities, their families, their culture, their tradition and subject them to that appalling indoctrination in jihad training seems to me to be an ultimate evil.”
10:32:40 I/v Kelly McCann:
“The most dangerous men in the world are men who don’t care. They don’t care whether they get arrested, they don’t care if they hurt you or you hurt them, they don’t care whether they see tomorrow or they live to 50 years old, that’s the most dangerous men in the world ..”
10:32:55 Pix: UN vehicle in Sudan / Gaspar Biro’s UN reports
Comm: Lutfallah’s eyewitness testimony is backed up by United Nations investigations on the ground. Top UN human rights investigator, Gaspar Biro, investigated the very same training camp that Lutfallah ran security for. His reports concluded that:
10:33:12 Pix: Rostrum of reports and UN in Sudan
Comm: “The Sudan Government exerted pressure on the local government in Sinnar state to create a separate camp…run by an Islamic organisation in Mabrouka, Dinder province. The aim was to provide military training to the boys in the school. It is to be noted that the age of the children was between 5 and 16 years”
10:33:38 Pix: rostrum and UN aid base
Comm: After 6 years work, Gaspar Biro resigned from the UN and left the Sudan. His reason? Nothing had been done to stop the training camps, and the world remained ignorant of their existence. And the Sudan regime just denied the terror training camps were there.
10:33:57 Pix: Training camp video
Comm: So is this state-sponsored terrorism? The Sudan regime claims it is now working with the West for peace and to combat terrorism.. But we have evidence to prove otherwise ..
10:34:09
Comm: These images were filmed inside the Sudanese embassy in Malaysia - by an embassy diplomat. They show the serving Vice President of Sudan speaking to a select audience of Muslims .. He is the main negotiator with Washington and London for negotiations to try to bring and end to Sudan’s civil war .. But this is what he says behind closed doors ..
10:34:35 Ali Osman Mohammed Taha on Embassy tape:
"This is going to be an open ended battle between us and the USA… an ongoing struggle. We should not fear about what lies ahead – we should not weep or cry. We have to look to our defence and the struggle ahead and go into this battle, which will last a long time. The fact is we exist and we will continue to exist and the struggle will continue no matter how much it costs – and at the end we will be victorious, God willing.”
10:35:13 Pix: Set ups of Khattab
Comm: The tapes were passed to us by this man. He filmed them whilst working in the Sudan Embassy. He has since come into exile in Europe. He says the tapes show how Sudan is tricking the West - extending a false hand of friendship .. whilst continuing to sponsor terrorism.
10:35:32 I/v Khattab:
"I realised that the regime is not working for the welfare or interests of the Sudanese people. On the contrary, they are working for their own individual interests. I realised that the Government were deceiving the world and the Sudanese people. So I chose to defect and fight from the outside and to speak out.”
10:35:55 Ali Osman Mohammed Taha on Embassy tape:
"There is of course a lot of talk about terrorism, about Sudan harbouring terrorists – they say the Arab Afghan group Jamaat-Islamia and the Palestinians are here in Sudan. It is true that in the aftermath of the Gulf War we sought support from these, our Islamic brothers, financially so that they would stand shoulder-to-shoulder with Sudan against any aggression. We set up ways for these brothers to enter and exit the country easily – so as to attract Islamic and Arabic money into Sudan”.
10:36:38 Pix: Footage from Embassy tape
Comm: So whilst Sudan claims to have abandoned the path of terror, the words of the top people in Government suggest otherwise .. And our security expert suspects that Osama Bin Laden was the hidden source of funds behind the training camp.
10:36:56 I/v Lutfallah: Intercut with Bin Laden pix
“What made me suspect that Osama Bin Laden was involved in the camp was that part of it was funded by a Saudi person: the only person that Saudi could possibly have been is Osama Bin Laden ..”
10:37:19 Pix: laboratory / explosions
Comm: Yet the final part of this terror jigsaw puzzle is the most frightening of all .. Lutfallah would only discover it by accident; he says the children had access to weapons of mass destruction, and were being trained to use them ..
10:37:37 End of Part 3
10:37:53 PART 4:
10:37:53 Pix: Chemical weapons reports / chem weapons suits..
Comm: The Sudan regime stands accused of using chemical weapons in its war against its own people. Aid organisation, the United Nations, and neighbouring Governments have all alleged the use of chemical weapons. In 1999 UN workers were hit by a choking gas after a Government bombing raid on a village .. Chemical weapons experts were sent in to investigate; they took samples from craters full of a bright red liquid .. Animals died .. Victims came out in painful blisters .. Nurses and doctors flew in to treat the survivors ..
10:38:38 I/v Mary Hippe: Intercut with pix from hospital
“We interviewed 32 patients and most people started with burning of the eyes, watering of the eyes, burning of the nose throat and chest pains and cough. About two days after then they also appeared with vomiting and diarrhoea. Some of the women within the next day or so also started to have threatened abortions ..”
10:39:01 Pix: laboratory
Comm: The British, Finnish and US Governments all took the allegations seriously; they carried out official analysis of the samples .. But the evidence was inconclusive ..
10:39:14 I/v Julian Perry-Robinson:
“These reports have a long history; they are allegations which have been repeated in many ways and forms over many years. They are embedded in our consciousness of Chemical Warfare that is happening in the real world today – that the international treaties have supposed to have stopped. If the regime is going to retain credibility, if people are to go on being confident of this regime, then this is the type of allegation, an allegation of use, that really has to be investigated and, one would hope, laid to rest.”
10:39:52 Pix: Lutfallah / laboratory
Comm: These reports of chemical weapons use are backed up by what our security officer saw; next door to the training camp, he discovered what he believes was a chemical weapons facility.. It was staffed by foreign experts.
10:40:04 I/v Lutfallah: Intercut with laboratory footage
“Two Russian experts got off the helicopter, accompanied by a Sudanese Colonel, and walked to the weapons complex carrying two Samsonite briefcases. Only the two Russians went inside the laboratory – no one went with them. They opened the weapons crates, each of which contained a smaller wooden crate with a glass flask inside. They took long spatulas from their briefcases and used them to take samples from the flasks; they put on protective breathing masks and gloves as if they were about to carry out tests. The liquid was an oily yellow colour.”
10:40:57 I/v Lutfallah:
“These people are capable of doing anything. Anytime anywhere - they are all terrorists . Even that word terrorists is not strong enough for them. They are the type of people who can strap explosives to themselves and blow themselves up alongside their targets – either facilities or people.”
10:41:19 Pix: Laboratory
Comm: And at the child terror camp, there was a secret laboratory that even our security officer wasn’t allowed access to .. But he finally uncovered what went on there .. This was the facility where the children learned to build and use chemical weapons.”
10:41:30 I/v Lutfallah:
“They bring teams of specialists from the Government Military laboratory – they come to teach the children in the use of unconventional weapons. This is clear from the type of specialist teams they use; it can only mean one of two things – either they’re teaching them how to build bombs or other unconventional methods of killing.”
10:41:56 I/v Lutfallah: Intercut with explosion pix
“Of course there is a large space in the training camp where they test the explosive devices they build; when we heard these huge explosions we’d ask what they were doing. They’d tell us not to worry – they were just testing things. Testing bombs and explosives – but we were told not to interfere.”
10:42:19 I/v Bill Cowan:
“These are all things we have to look forward to seeing whether we like it or not. And children like this, indoctrinated early on and being able to fit into society, at an early age, somehow given access to chemical or biological capabilities or weapons – it’s a nightmare for disaster ..”
10:42:37 Pix: Training camp video
Comm: So these young children are first kidnapped, brutalised and dehumanised by their trainers ..Then they are brainwashed in terrorism and an unreasoning hatred of the West .. And finally they have access to weapons of mass destruction ..
10:42:54 DGL PTC:
“There must be thousands of these children graduated from these terror training camps. The question is; where are they all now? And how do we track them and stop them launching their next attacks? And what do we then do with them?”
10:43:09 I/v Bill Cowan: Intercut with BL Pix
“.. these terrorists, al-Qaeda, Bin Laden .. are always looking at the long-term solution, we in the West are short-term solutions, instant gratification. Those guys are taking a very long view at what their doing , what their goals and objectives are and how they plan to get there.. certainly their use of children, indoctrinating, planning, teaching , psychologically altering, motivating, right now, for things 5, 10 or 15 years from now is right down the path of how those guys think about things.”
10:43:41 I/v Baroness Cox:
“I think it’s extremely disturbing. Certainly there is a lot of evidence that there have been these terrorist training camps in Sudan and also they are consistent with what we’ve heard in the past so it sounds to me disturbingly credible.”
10:43:55 I/v Bob Baer: Intercut with boys with guns
“They’re everywhere, I mean there’s no record of them, they’re in Morocco, they’re in Algeria, Spain or in London. There is no membership list of people who’ve been through al-Qaeda. Who hung on, who didn’t? They don’t know, they simply don’t know. Because the problem is the people in these camps – if they weren’t believers before they went in they left believers ..”
10:44:22 I/v Bill Cowan: Intercut with USA suburbia pix
“The problem is society’s not going to realise where they come from if the Al Qaeda or whoever places them properly… as far as the Western world or as far as civilisation understands they’re just a couple more kids coming out of an impoverished difficult state in Africa, now they’re part of our community we’re going to take care of them but they never quite realise what these kids, what kind of psychological state that they’re in and the fact that they’re probably captive in that psychological state and not likely to get out of it.”
10:44:50 Pix: Training camp video children
Comm: These then are the children of terror. They come from all over Africa and no one knows where they are now .. Or what they are planning .. Or the orders they are awaiting ..
10:45:04 I/v Kelly McCann:
“They wouldn’t be deployed on their own without leadership, they wouldn’t be deployed without some kind of planning cell to monitor them, make sure they fit in to society and then actually do tactically what they’re supposed to do.”
10:45:16 I/v Bill Cowan:
“These kids, the al-qaeda or other terrorists, whoever it is that deploys them properly, these kids will come in to borders, cross borders, will come in to countries with absolutely no visibility whatsoever. They won’t be profiled, they won’t be looked at because they’re under suspicion.
They’re just anonymous children and that’s the perfect scenario for Al-Qaeda or other terrorists; get your guys implanted in a cellular structure, without any visibilty, without anuybody paying attention to them, then the day you need them, the day you make that telephone call, you know they’re going to be there to do what you asked them to do..”
10:45:51 Pix: Training camp video
Comm: And Sudan is not alone. From the Palestinian lands to the Indonesian islands, other children are also being trained. The biggest danger is that we know so little about it .. and about the masterminds behind it all.
10:46:06 I/v Baroness Cox:
“It is part, I think of a deeply disturbing, International movement and I think the implications are very serious because you can actually see in the way they speak and their whole demeanour, for many of them this has become a way of life, a commitment and they’re ideologically indoctrinated.”
10:46:38 I/v Bob Baer: Intercut with Bin Laden Pix
“In the early 90s the US didn’t understand Bin Laden .. They completely missed it, they looked at Bin Laden as a sort of clown, incapable of leading anybody. He wasn’t considered a threat. I mean they just missed it. I think they’re missing it today because they’re looking at Bin Laden as an individual that brainwashes people and then once you take that pool of brainwashed people and arrest them all, or kill them or whatever, that’s the end of it. They don’t realise the depth of support for BL throughout the Middle East, in Asia as well, and Africa.”
10:47:15 Pix: Training camp video / London street scenes
Comm: We know the children of terror have been trained .. and deployed. The question is what we now do about it ..
10:47:26:15 I/v Kelly McCann: Intercut with London scenes
“Really the answer is two-fold and that’s education and poverty. The more that people understand and are educated about what’s outside the closely held Islamic fundamental beliefs about the West, what is it about the US, what is it about the UK? That they know about other religions, they know about other philosophies, that they know there are other alternatives of getting out of that poverty situation. Whether you can get there from here or not is a whole different question.”
10:47:51 I/v Bob Baer:
“The more the Middle East conflict picks up, the more believers you’re going to have. As the war in Iraq goes from bad to worse, once Sharon really starts going after Palestine, which he probably will, some of these people might pop up from the camps in Sudan. Call them sleepers if you like ..”
10: 48:10 I/v Bill Cowan: Intercut with Leicester street scenes
“The problem is that the harder we crack down on our Muslim communities and don’t forget that 95% of these people support the West and are not part of what’s going on, but the harder we crack down on them, the more likely we are to send some of them to the bad side .. Our hope in finding bad guys will be because members within the community see something that’s not right and bring it to law enforcement authorities. If we crack down too hard on those communities, if we crack down inappropriately, we’re going to end up reaping the bad side of them and not the good side of them.”
10:48:41 Pix: Sudanese Government Military parade (Harsh Face of Islam)
Comm: And in the case of Sudan itself, many argue that the regime is inseparable from the terror ..One will not end until the other does ..
10:48:51 I/v Lutfallah:
“This regime is a terrorist regime, they suppress the Sudanese people, they export terrorism to the rest of the world based on their ideology and as long as they exist they will continue to produce more terrorists and extremists.”
10:49:11 I/v Omer:
“I feel very strong and angry about it because I see a cheap way of manipulating my own religion in such a way to distort the facts of that religion and it makes me very hard for me to fight back and to re-explain to the people what they have seen and what they know about Islam is totally wrong.”
10:49:35 I/v Baroness Cox: Intercut with Training camp video
“To allow these training camps to continue without investigation and without serious analysis of their implications and the implications for us who live in the free world, of their agenda, their policies, their programmes, it’s suicidal.”
10:49:54 Pix: US countryside , London statics
Comm: For now, some of those kids trained in the terror camps are out there. Somewhere .. Waiting .. It only takes the terrorist to be lucky once to have a major terror strike. Our security services have to be lucky every time in order to stop them.
10:50:11 I/v: Nina Shea:
“I think that the West has much to fear from this phenomenon. I think we are absolutely negligent if we don’t look in to this even from our own security. We have a great burden and responsibility out of pure humanitarian reasons but for those who feel it’s someone else’s problem, it’s a country far away, think again.”
10:58:37 I/v Congressman Wolf:
“It’s very dangerous and you see now the reports of youngsters in the Middle East strapping bombs on themselves and going out so I think it’s a very tough problem.”
10:50:48 I/v: Bob Baer:
“If they weren’t believers when they went in, they left believers.”
10:50:52 Pix: slomo training camp video
Comm: When fascism almost triumphed in Europe, it took a united world to stop it. With children now being brainwashed as terror victims, we are seeing the rise of a new, religious fascism. If it were not for brave and principled moderate Muslims speaking out, we would remain blind to the threat posed from the children of terror ..
10:51:22
End card: We asked the Government of Sudan for an interview for this programme but they declined ..
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