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L1N03 Klant: ITP
L1N03 Titel: Een geschiedenis van de
L1N03 toekomst
L1N03 Versie: Hong/Mand/Ned - Eng
L1N03 File: toekomst ENG
L1N03 Vertaler: BTB
L1N03 Datum: 07/02/2005
L1N03 Correcties: 08/02 & 11/02

0001 : 00:03:09:00,00:03:12:01,11
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C2N03 Powerless. Utterly powerless.

0002 : 00:03:21:05,00:03:27:05,10
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C2N03 We heard again that
C2N03 they want to expand in China too.

0003 : 00:03:46:01,00:03:47:01,10
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C2N03 If you don't take action yourself,
C2N03 nobody will pay attention to you.

0004 : 00:03:55:24,00:03:58:04,11
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C2N03 A History of The Future

0005 : 00:04:16:14,00:04:20:04,10
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C2N03 Ten years ago,
C2N03 we went to Eindhoven.

0006 : 00:04:20:08,00:04:24:20,10
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C2N03 Two mounted policemen
C2N03 accompanied the demonstrators.

0007 : 00:04:24:24,00:04:29:08,10
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C2N03 It was peaceful.
C2N03 Until we arrived at Philips.

0008 : 00:04:29:12,00:04:33:08,10
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C2N03 In five minutes,
C2N03 the barriers went down.

0009 : 00:04:33:12,00:04:37:24,10
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C2N03 The mounted policemen
C2N03 took one look and cleared off.

0010 : 00:05:10:07,00:05:16:05,10
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C2N03 A lot of production workers.
C2N03 There were some 5,500

0011 : 00:05:16:09,00:05:19:21,10
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C2N03 at the peak.
C2N03 I don't recall what year that was.

0012 : 00:05:20:24,00:05:25:08,10
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C2N03 The tape recorder.
C2N03 - An invention of Philips Hasselt.

0013 : 00:05:25:12,00:05:29:07,10
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C2N03 Millions were made.
C2N03 - Here's the staff evolution.

0014 : 00:05:29:11,00:05:32:02,11
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C2N03 The last bit is correct.

0015 : 00:05:33:02,00:05:36:02,11
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C2N03 It stops in the year 2000.

0016 : 00:05:36:06,00:05:40:21,10
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C2N03 You can laugh about it, but it's true.
C2N03 It's true what he says.

0017 : 00:05:41:00,00:05:46:06,10
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C2N03 After 2000, there's nothing.
C2N03 No need to complete it. It's gone.

0018 : 00:05:46:10,00:05:51:19,10
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C2N03 We laugh about it now, but...
C2N03 - I'm not laughing. It upsets me.

0019 : 00:05:51:23,00:05:54:00,10
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C2N03 Nice.
C2N03 - It was nice.

0020 : 00:05:54:04,00:05:57:03,10
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C2N03 Nice souvenir.
C2N03 - A History of The Future.

0021 : 00:06:40:00,00:06:44:01,11
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C2N03 I used to glue the reels inside.

0022 : 00:06:45:04,00:06:51:00,10
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C2N03 And this was pleasant work.
C2N03 Soldering these chips. My God.

0023 : 00:06:51:04,00:06:55:11,10
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C2N03 It was precision work,
C2N03 but very pleasant.

0024 : 00:06:55:15,00:07:01:14,10
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C2N03 I started in Hasselt in 1986.
C2N03 - I worked at Philips for 19 years.

0025 : 00:07:01:18,00:07:04:22,10
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C2N03 I started
C2N03 as the head of internal distribution.

0026 : 00:07:05:01,00:07:09:06,10
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C2N03 I started in September 1986,
C2N03 as a fault finder.

0027 : 00:07:09:17,00:07:13:08,11
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C2N03 My career spans about thirty years.

0028 : 00:07:13:12,00:07:17:02,10
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C2N03 A bolt from the blue
C2N03 for Philips Hasselt.

0029 : 00:07:17:06,00:07:22:20,10
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C2Y03 Following the reorganisation in August...
C2N03 - The reorganisation, yes.

0030 : 00:07:22:24,00:07:26:09,10
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C2N03 Now, another 255 people
C2N03 will be laid off.

0031 : 00:07:26:13,00:07:29:10,10
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C2N03 In August,
C2N03 there was a reorganisation...

0032 : 00:07:29:14,00:07:35:07,10
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C2N03 You've been through it all.
C2N03 - We have. A lot of it.

0033 : 00:07:35:13,00:07:41:08,10
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C2N03 This time, highly skilled Research
C2N03 staff will be laid off as well.

0034 : 00:07:41:12,00:07:44:20,11
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C2N03 Knowledge can be found anywhere.

0035 : 00:07:44:24,00:07:49:07,10
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C2N03 It came as a surprise though,
C2N03 when part of Research was moved.

0036 : 00:07:49:11,00:07:52:08,11
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C2N03 We didn't expect it back then.

0037 : 00:07:52:12,00:07:57:24,10
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C2N03 Personally, I take a gloomy view
C2N03 of things. I think it's over.

0038 : 00:07:58:03,00:08:02:13,10
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C2N03 I understand people are concerned.
C2N03 - Tosser.

0039 : 00:08:18:18,00:08:22:08,10
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C2N03 When the entire production
C2N03 had been moved,

0040 : 00:08:22:12,00:08:28:01,10
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C2Y03 they started to move parts of Research
C2N03 to these same places as well.

0041 : 00:08:28:05,00:08:30:09,11
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C2N03 And this increased over the years.

0042 : 00:08:30:13,00:08:35:01,10
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C2N03 That was
C2N03 the death blow for Philips Hasselt.

0043 : 00:08:35:05,00:08:39:23,10
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C2N03 If you have to do this,
C2Y03 you know it's not going to be pleasant.

0044 : 00:08:41:01,00:08:44:13,11
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C2N03 You know there will be victims.

0045 : 00:08:44:17,00:08:47:17,10
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C2N03 It is our task
C2N03 to handle it as well as possible.

0046 : 00:08:48:05,00:08:54:17,10
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C2N03 Workers were made redundant
C2N03 at the slightest economic dip.

0047 : 00:08:54:21,00:08:59:08,10
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C2N03 In order to save expenses.
C2N03 But managers were transferred.

0048 : 00:09:03:23,00:09:09:22,10
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C2N03 Even though we celebrate today,
C2N03 it is still hard to observe

0049 : 00:09:10:01,00:09:14:16,10
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C2N03 that this is not only the end
C2N03 of our 25-year-old association,

0050 : 00:09:15:05,00:09:17:11,11
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C2N03 but of Philips Hasselt as a whole.

0051 : 00:09:17:19,00:09:22:06,11
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C2N03 So we both feel nostalgic and angry.

0052 : 00:09:22:11,00:09:25:11,10
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C2N03 Don't we have
C2N03 the right to be angry?

0053 : 00:09:27:01,00:09:30:11,10
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C2N03 People were not taken
C2N03 into account much.

0054 : 00:09:30:15,00:09:34:23,10
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C2N03 I think they could have
C2N03 shown more consideration.

0055 : 00:09:35:02,00:09:40:09,10
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C2N03 Tomorrow, we will be redundant
C2N03 and sacked. That much is clear.

0056 : 00:09:40:13,00:09:46:05,10
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C2N03 The law of the jungle prevails.
C2N03 Only the shareholders count.

0057 : 00:09:48:09,00:09:54:00,10
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C2N03 It's a justifiable thought
C2N03 of people who lose their jobs.

0058 : 00:09:54:09,00:09:58:24,10
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C2N03 But when you know the real
C2N03 long-term figures of Hasselt,

0059 : 00:09:59:03,00:10:04:12,10
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C2N03 and how often new products
C2N03 have been assigned to Hasselt...

0060 : 00:10:04:16,00:10:08:18,10
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C2N03 So many things
C2N03 have happened there over the years.

0061 : 00:10:09:24,00:10:13:08,10
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C2N03 At a certain point,
C2N03 it became unsustainable.

0062 : 00:10:16:02,00:10:19:11,10
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C2N03 It reduces us to silence.
C2N03 - Still today.

0063 : 00:10:22:05,00:10:24:21,11
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C2N03 I don't want to see it anymore.

0064 : 00:10:30:12,00:10:32:04,11
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C2N03 It's over.

0065 : 00:10:37:11,00:10:43:17,10
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C2N03 Hasselt was allowed to develop
C2N03 a new product every five years.

0066 : 00:10:43:21,00:10:51:17,10
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C2N03 They should have continued this
C2N03 to give Hasselt a chance to survive.

0067 : 00:10:51:21,00:10:56:09,10
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C2N03 Eindhoven and Western Europe
C2N03 used to be our Mecca.

0068 : 00:10:56:13,00:11:00:03,10
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C2N03 Now the world is a village because
C2N03 of the communication possibilities.

0069 : 00:11:00:07,00:11:03:16,11
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C2N03 That's what globalization is.

0070 : 00:11:03:20,00:11:08:23,10
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C2N03 The same activity can be done
C2N03 anywhere in the world.

0071 : 00:11:09:02,00:11:14:24,10
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C2N03 And because of the global village,
C2N03 competition has become ruthless.

0072 : 00:11:15:03,00:11:19:09,10
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C2N03 If, for any reason,
C2N03 you fall behind in this race,

0073 : 00:11:19:13,00:11:22:17,11
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C2N03 you plunge into the red in no time.

0074 : 00:11:22:21,00:11:26:11,10
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C2N03 And then, it's nearly impossible
C2N03 to make up arrears.

0075 : 00:11:35:24,00:11:42:02,10
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C2N03 These devices represent
C2N03 Hasselt's latest developments.

0076 : 00:11:42:06,00:11:43:24,11
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C2N03 These are two DVD players.

0077 : 00:11:44:03,00:11:48:23,10
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C2N03 This is the very last device
C2N03 Hasselt developed and produced.

0078 : 00:11:49:02,00:11:54:13,10
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C2N03 The entire unit was made in Hasselt.
C2N03 Now, production is spread all over.

0079 : 00:11:54:17,00:12:00:18,10
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C2N03 This is the heart of all CD readers,
C2N03 recorders, video cameras and PCs.

0080 : 00:12:00:22,00:12:04:23,11
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C2N03 It was around 1995 when we began

0081 : 00:12:05:02,00:12:10:17,10
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C2N03 to shift the mass-produced articles
C2N03 to Hungary and Poland.

0082 : 00:12:10:21,00:12:14:14,11
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C2N03 This a DVD player, made in Hungary.

0083 : 00:12:14:18,00:12:19:05,10
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C2N03 These are some photos
C2N03 of our visit to Hungary in 1998.

0084 : 00:12:19:22,00:12:22:22,10
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C2N03 At the time,
C2N03 there were 3,000 employees.

0085 : 00:12:23:01,00:12:25:09,11
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C2N03 We visited the production area.

0086 : 00:12:25:13,00:12:30:10,10
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C2N03 First, we were briefed
C2N03 about the production processes.

0087 : 00:12:30:14,00:12:34:10,10
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C2N03 It was an exact copy
C2N03 of what we had in Hasselt.

0088 : 00:12:34:14,00:12:40:03,10
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C2N03 Education is similar in Hungary.
C2Y03 There are as many college graduates.

0089 : 00:12:40:07,00:12:46:00,10
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C2N03 They are more expensive than blue
C2N03 collar workers, relatively speaking.

0090 : 00:12:46:04,00:12:49:16,10
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C2N03 But of course,
C2N03 you don't need as many of them.

0091 : 00:12:49:20,00:12:53:05,10
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C2N03 In order to produce,
C2N03 you need machines.

0092 : 00:12:53:10,00:12:58:05,10
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C2N03 The machines which are needed
C2N03 to manufacture our line of products

0093 : 00:12:58:09,00:13:00:23,11
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C2N03 can be moved in a week's time.

0094 : 00:13:01:02,00:13:06:14,10
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C2N03 You just load them into a truck and
C2N03 take them anywhere in the world.

0095 : 00:13:22:05,00:13:28:02,10
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C2N03 A lot of work was shifted from
C2N03 Hasselt to Hungary, partly to Györ.

0096 : 00:13:28:06,00:13:32:19,10
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C2N03 I would like to know how much of it
C2N03 is still being made.

0097 : 00:13:32:23,00:13:37:16,10
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C2N03 And how much of it
C2N03 has been moved or will be moved.

0098 : 00:13:37:20,00:13:39:17,10
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C2N03 Györ
C2N03 Industrial Park

0099 : 00:13:50:22,00:13:55:10,10
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C2N03 The industrial city
C2N03 is on the right over the rails.

0100 : 00:13:56:10,00:14:01:10,10
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C2N03 Drive a bit slower.
C2N03 Look to the left now.

0101 : 00:14:07:19,00:14:11:05,10
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C2N03 Here they manufactured
C2N03 agricultural machines.

0102 : 00:14:13:06,00:14:22:05,10
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C2N03 It used to have 600 employees,
C2N03 now it has about 150.

0103 : 00:14:22:11,00:14:27:12,10
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C2N03 In this factory they had 1,500
C2N03 workers, now approximately 400.

0104 : 00:14:29:11,00:14:34:23,10
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C2N03 This is the Rába plant, which has
C2N03 roughly 2,500 - 2,700 employees.

0105 : 00:14:35:02,00:14:39:05,11
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C2N03 It used to have 21,000 employees.

0106 : 00:14:59:09,00:15:03:06,11
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C2N03 Behind us is the Györ industrial park,

0107 : 00:15:03:10,00:15:07:18,10
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C2N03 which was founded
C2N03 by the municipality in 1990

0108 : 00:15:07:22,00:15:15:17,10
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C2N03 with the aim to provide work
C2N03 for people previously laid off

0109 : 00:15:15:21,00:15:22:17,10
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C2N03 and to attract foreign capital
C2N03 investment to create new jobs.

0110 : 00:15:34:14,00:15:39:12,10
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C2N03 The Hungarian law does not compel
C2N03 companies to accept unions.

0111 : 00:15:39:16,00:15:45:11,10
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C2N03 Some employers try
C2N03 to appease the workers

0112 : 00:15:45:15,00:15:49:15,11
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C2N03 with small bonuses

0113 : 00:15:49:19,00:15:53:13,10
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C2N03 so that they don't see the use
C2N03 of forming trade unions.

0114 : 00:16:17:17,00:16:23:01,10
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C2N03 We decided
C2N03 to form a trade union in 1998,

0115 : 00:16:23:05,00:16:28:01,10
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C2N03 because back then working
C2N03 conditions were not appropriate.

0116 : 00:16:28:06,00:16:34:01,10
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C2N03 In the past two years
C2N03 we got air conditioning, a cafeteria,

0117 : 00:16:34:05,00:16:37:01,10
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C2N03 a smoking room, a shower,
C2N03 a dressing room, better chairs.

0118 : 00:16:37:05,00:16:40:07,10
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C2N03 Now we feel more comfortable
C2N03 at work.

0119 : 00:16:40:19,00:16:43:17,11
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C2N03 Taking overtime into account,

0120 : 00:16:43:21,00:16:49:16,10
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C2N03 our gross wage is around
C2N03 445 euro, which is 320 euro net.

0121 : 00:16:49:20,00:16:55:04,10
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C2N03 My income is sufficient to pay
C2N03 the bills. My daughter is at college.

0122 : 00:16:55:08,00:16:59:21,10
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C2N03 When her studies are paid,
C2N03 all my money is gone.

0123 : 00:17:00:06,00:17:06:02,10
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C2N03 In the last seven years
C2N03 we have been working for Philips,

0124 : 00:17:06:06,00:17:10:00,11
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C2N03 our base wage has doubled.

0125 : 00:17:10:04,00:17:15:12,10
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C2N03 Also an extra benefit,
C2N03 called piecework, was initiated.

0126 : 00:17:32:02,00:17:36:07,10
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C2N03 CD players were manufactured here
C2N03 on the assembly lines.

0127 : 00:17:36:11,00:17:40:08,10
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C2N03 Now, the production
C2N03 has been moved to Ukraine.

0128 : 00:17:40:12,00:17:47:02,10
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C2N03 We heard again that
C2N03 they want to expand in China too.

0129 : 00:17:48:15,00:17:51:19,10
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C2N03 The only thing we can do
C2N03 is protest...

0130 : 00:17:53:12,00:17:56:15,11
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C2N03 and express our disapproval.

0131 : 00:17:56:19,00:18:00:19,10
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C2N03 Most of the workers have
C2N03 a temporal contract.

0132 : 00:18:00:23,00:18:04:21,10
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C2N03 If they are dismissed,
C2N03 we can't have much say in that.

0133 : 00:18:05:00,00:18:08:20,11
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C2N03 Besides, they're no unionists.

0134 : 00:18:09:14,00:18:13:21,10
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C2N03 We only have 70 members, many
C2N03 members don't work there anymore,

0135 : 00:18:14:00,00:18:16:09,11
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C2N03 and thus we are weak.

0136 : 00:18:16:15,00:18:18:15,11
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C2N03 Thank you very much.

0137 : 00:18:21:10,00:18:24:00,11
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C2N03 We can't be late... Come.

0138 : 00:18:24:04,00:18:29:01,10
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C2N03 We fear that
C2N03 more production will be moved

0139 : 00:18:29:05,00:18:35:01,10
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C2N03 and that inevitably
C2N03 more employees will be laid off.

0140 : 00:18:35:05,00:18:43:00,10
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C2N03 We are aware of the fact that there
C2N03 are about 2,800 employees here in all

0141 : 00:18:43:04,00:18:49:11,10
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C2N03 and this number will be
C2N03 cut to 1,600 by next year.

0142 : 00:18:49:15,00:18:54:23,10
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C2N03 They keep people in the dark
C2N03 and pretend the unions get their say.

0143 : 00:18:55:02,00:18:59:05,11
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C2N03 It's the same over here. That hurts.

0144 : 00:18:59:09,00:19:02:10,10
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C2N03 Work is being moved
C2N03 away from here as well.

0145 : 00:19:07:24,00:19:12:19,10
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C2N03 I see some fifteen assembly lines,
C2N03 or at least ten.

0146 : 00:19:12:23,00:19:17:18,10
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C2N03 They are closer together than
C2N03 in Hasselt. That surprises me.

0147 : 00:19:19:01,00:19:23:22,10
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C2N03 There you can see the girls
C2N03 screwing things together.

0148 : 00:19:24:01,00:19:29:16,10
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C2N03 Just the same as we do.
C2N03 It feels strange to see this.

0149 : 00:19:29:20,00:19:33:05,10
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C2N03 I know I lost my job,
C2N03 they don't know it yet.

0150 : 00:19:45:06,00:19:49:04,10
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C2N03 I get the impression
C2N03 the unions don't amount to much.

0151 : 00:19:49:08,00:19:56:18,10
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C2N03 As they have no backing.
C2N03 And Europe means little to them.

0152 : 00:19:56:22,00:20:00:06,10
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C2N03 They don't know
C2N03 what the European Works Council is.

0153 : 00:20:15:17,00:20:18:14,11
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C2N03 Balaton was becoming expensive.

0154 : 00:20:18:18,00:20:23:17,10
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C2N03 Then we moved
C2N03 towards Romania and Ukraine,

0155 : 00:20:23:21,00:20:26:14,11
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C2N03 nearly halving wage costs.

0156 : 00:20:26:18,00:20:30:17,10
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C2N03 When we move to Romania,
C2N03 wage costs will be halved again.

0157 : 00:20:30:21,00:20:34:18,11
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C2N03 So this is clearly not the end of it.

0158 : 00:20:35:01,00:20:37:10,11
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C2N03 These are two running parts.

0159 : 00:20:37:15,00:20:43:04,10
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C2N03 The labels tell me the first one
C2N03 was produced in Hasselt.

0160 : 00:20:43:08,00:20:46:15,10
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C2N03 The second one
C2N03 was made in the Philippines.

0161 : 00:20:46:19,00:20:52:14,10
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C2N03 When it comes to wage costs,
C2Y03 we can't compete with those countries.

0162 : 00:20:52:18,00:20:55:09,10
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C2N03 Are we talking 1 out of 10,
C2N03 or more?

0163 : 00:20:55:13,00:21:02:03,10
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C2N03 In some Eastern European countries,
C2N03 it's 1 out of 10. In China, it's more.

0164 : 00:21:02:07,00:21:09:14,10
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C2N03 This is a DVD reader/writer.
C2N03 It's the heart of all DVD recorders.

0165 : 00:21:09:18,00:21:12:08,11
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C2N03 This is the read/write head.

0166 : 00:21:12:12,00:21:16:09,10
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C2N03 Development was moved
C2N03 to Taiwan and Eindhoven,

0167 : 00:21:16:13,00:21:18:13,11
80 80 80
C2N03 production to Shanghai.

0168 : 00:21:43:02,00:21:49:07,10
80 80 80
C2N03 This line, developed in Hasselt
C2N03 in 1989, produces this element.

0169 : 00:21:49:11,00:21:53:20,11
80 80 80
C2N03 It was running in Hasselt up to 2001.

0170 : 00:21:53:24,00:21:59:17,10
80 80 80
C2N03 Then it was moved to Shanghai.
C2N03 It's the only thing left from Hasselt.

0171 : 00:22:06:01,00:22:12:17,10
80 80 80
C2N03 I think management doesn't only look
C2N03 at where the cheapest labour is,

0172 : 00:22:12:21,00:22:15:10,11
80 80 80
C2N03 but at the overall cost.

0173 : 00:22:15:14,00:22:21:19,10
80 80 80
C2N03 Where the suppliers and markets are,
C2N03 where knowledge is available.

0174 : 00:22:21:23,00:22:27:10,10
80 80 80
C2N03 Cheap labour is one thing, but you
C2N03 need executive staff to support it.

0175 : 00:22:30:21,00:22:35:24,10
80 80 80
C2N03 I think, if the company remains
C2N03 competitive in the market

0176 : 00:22:36:03,00:22:38:02,11
80 80 80
C2N03 there is no reason to move.

0177 : 00:22:38:06,00:22:41:24,10
80 80 80
C2N03 We are very near to our customers,
C2N03 our customers like it.

0178 : 00:22:42:03,00:22:45:03,11
80 80 80
C2N03 So why go to another place, right?

0179 : 00:22:49:07,00:22:54:09,10
80 80 80
C2N03 The next trend will be to move
C2N03 production further into China

0180 : 00:22:54:13,00:23:00:20,10
80 80 80
C2N03 and other Asian low-wage countries.
C2N03 There are plenty. Vietnam, Cambodia.

0181 : 00:23:25:24,00:23:30:00,10
80 80 80
C2N03 If Europe focuses
C2N03 on investing in added value,

0182 : 00:23:30:04,00:23:36:17,10
80 80 80
C2N03 on skilled workers and flexibility,
C2N03 there is a niche for Europeans.

0183 : 00:23:36:21,00:23:42:15,10
80 80 80
C2N03 This is a rat race Europe cannot win.
C2N03 We're too expensive and developed.

0184 : 00:23:42:19,00:23:48:05,10
80 80 80
C2N03 But there are plenty of fields
C2N03 where we can offer an added value

0185 : 00:23:48:09,00:23:52:03,10
80 80 80
C2N03 which greatly exceeds
C2N03 merely low wage costs.

0186 : 00:23:58:16,00:24:02:24,10
80 80 80
C2N03 There are no social services.
C2N03 There is no social security.

0187 : 00:24:03:03,00:24:06:15,10
80 80 80
C2N03 If wages become too expensive,
C2N03 they move.

0188 : 00:24:06:19,00:24:11:23,10
80 80 80
C2Y03 From Hungary to Shanghai and so on.
C2N03 And the workers are laid off.

0189 : 00:24:12:03,00:24:17:11,10
80 80 80
C2N03 I remember we had visitors
C2N03 from the Philippines and Brasil.

0190 : 00:24:17:15,00:24:24:24,10
80 80 80
C2N03 The union wanted to create jobs so
C2N03 they could reach the same standard.

0191 : 00:24:25:03,00:24:29:04,10
80 80 80
C2N03 Thirty years later,
C2N03 things are just as bad.

0192 : 00:24:29:08,00:24:34:09,10
80 80 80
C2N03 We are competing with countries
C2N03 without social security.

0193 : 00:24:34:13,00:24:40:24,10
80 80 80
C2N03 This makes us expensive as well.
C2N03 And that is unfair competition.

0194 : 00:24:41:03,00:24:43:13,11
80 80 80
C2N03 No unions means no pressure.

0195 : 00:24:43:17,00:24:47:24,10
80 80 80
C2N03 They aim
C2N03 to keep the standard of living down.

0196 : 00:24:48:03,00:24:51:16,10
80 80 80
C2N03 That's how the rich
C2N03 become even richer.

0197 : 00:24:51:20,00:24:55:00,10
80 80 80
C2N03 Nevertheless,
C2N03 we'll have to live with it.

0198 : 00:24:55:04,00:24:58:14,10
80 80 80
C2N03 The aim of a multinational
C2N03 is making profits.

0199 : 00:24:59:03,00:25:01:15,11
80 80 80
C2N03 455.

0200 : 00:25:04:01,00:25:05:06,11
80 80 80
C2N03 42.

0201 : 00:25:05:10,00:25:09:16,10
80 80 80
C2N03 Over forty employees,
C2N03 clerks and executives,

0202 : 00:25:09:20,00:25:12:20,10
80 80 80
C2N03 were transferred
C2N03 to Philips Turnhout.

0203 : 00:25:26:20,00:25:34:13,10
80 80 80
C2N03 Turnhout, which produces high-grade
C2N03 gas-discharge lamps and UHP lamps,

0204 : 00:25:34:17,00:25:37:03,11
80 80 80
C2N03 is the world leader in its field.

0205 : 00:25:37:08,00:25:45:21,10
80 80 80
C2N03 Ordinary light sources will
C2N03 no longer be produced in Turnhout.

0206 : 00:25:46:15,00:25:52:21,10
80 80 80
C2N03 Turnhouts affiliated plants
C2N03 are located in North America,

0207 : 00:25:53:00,00:25:55:24,11
80 80 80
C2N03 in Brazil, in Scotland.

0208 : 00:25:56:04,00:26:00:24,10
80 80 80
C2N03 But the main unit, growing rapidly,
C2N03 is located in Shanghai.

0209 : 00:26:01:10,00:26:07:17,10
80 80 80
C2N03 In the weeks to come Roland and I
C2N03 will come and visit Philips Shanghai.

0210 : 00:26:07:21,00:26:08:21,10
80 80 80
C2N03 You're welcome.
C2N03 Together we can make it.

0211 : 00:26:10:15,00:26:13:23,10
80 80 80
C2N03 Every time, we ask ourselves:
C2N03 Why here?

0212 : 00:26:14:02,00:26:18:15,10
80 80 80
C2N03 If we can't justify it in view
C2N03 of the customer, we will stop.

0213 : 00:26:18:19,00:26:21:12,11
80 80 80
C2N03 We will never be the cheapest.

0214 : 00:26:21:16,00:26:24:06,10
80 80 80
C2N03 These machines
C2N03 have been here a year.

0215 : 00:26:24:10,00:26:28:22,10
80 80 80
C2N03 Before, we had machines
C2N03 which manufactured products

0216 : 00:26:29:01,00:26:33:17,10
80 80 80
C2N03 we couldn't make a difference with.
C2N03 Those are now in China.

0217 : 00:26:34:23,00:26:39:01,10
80 80 80
C2N03 The machines which were here,
C2N03 are now in Poland.

0218 : 00:26:39:05,00:26:44:17,10
80 80 80
C2N03 These will go to Poland as well.
C2N03 The first ones were sent off...

0219 : 00:26:44:21,00:26:49:15,10
80 80 80
C2N03 Last Wednesday.
C2N03 And Thursday and Friday.

0220 : 00:26:49:21,00:26:52:19,10
80 80 80
C2N03 There's nothing wrong with
C2N03 the people. They're wonderful.

0221 : 00:26:52:23,00:26:58:09,10
80 80 80
C2N03 But it's the wage cost
C2N03 which dictates where you produce.

0222 : 00:26:58:13,00:27:03:13,10
80 80 80
C2N03 And that's not in Western Europe,
C2N03 not in Belgium, not in Turnhout.

0223 : 00:27:03:17,00:27:08:00,10
80 80 80
C2N03 And it's more interesting
C2N03 if they move the work themselves.

0224 : 00:27:27:17,00:27:33:05,10
80 80 80
C2N03 I was in India for two days. Monday
C2N03 and Tuesday. Visiting customers.

0225 : 00:27:33:09,00:27:38:17,10
80 80 80
C2N03 Last night, I came here over
C2N03 Hong Kong. I didn't get much sleep.

0226 : 00:27:41:22,00:27:48:02,10
80 80 80
C2N03 The main reason we're in China
C2N03 is to grow in this lighting market.

0227 : 00:27:48:06,00:27:54:03,10
80 80 80
C2N03 The fastest growing market
C2N03 of Philips Turnhout is China.

0228 : 00:28:11:18,00:28:15:14,10
80 80 80
C2N03 The plant used to be
C2N03 in the centre of Shanghai.

0229 : 00:28:15:18,00:28:20:21,10
80 80 80
C2N03 To lower the cost,
C2N03 we moved outside of Shanghai.

0230 : 00:28:21:00,00:28:24:23,10
80 80 80
C2N03 When this location becomes
C2N03 too expensive for some products,

0231 : 00:28:25:02,00:28:29:07,10
80 80 80
C2N03 we will move on again.
C2N03 Further into China, or to Vietnam.

0232 : 00:28:29:11,00:28:34:12,10
80 80 80
C2N03 We're active in Russia as well.
C2N03 It's a never ending process.

0233 : 00:28:54:23,00:28:56:23,11
80 80 80
C2N03 If people get 100 euro,

0234 : 00:28:57:02,00:29:01:09,10
80 80 80
C2N03 the cost for the company
C2N03 will be 165 euro.

0235 : 00:29:01:13,00:29:05:09,10
80 80 80
C2N03 Because we have to pay
C2N03 65 euro extra

0236 : 00:29:05:13,00:29:07:23,10
80 80 80
C2N03 for a housing fund,
C2N03 unemployment fund,

0237 : 00:29:08:02,00:29:13:05,10
80 80 80
C2N03 the medical system,
C2N03 for the retirement fund...

0238 : 00:29:13:09,00:29:18:22,10
80 80 80
C2N03 To be honest,
C2N03 not all companies respect the law.

0239 : 00:29:19:01,00:29:23:16,10
80 80 80
C2N03 Some companies try to find a way
C2N03 to escape that.

0240 : 00:29:39:15,00:29:43:15,11
80 80 80
C2N03 I must say that there is a difference

0241 : 00:29:43:19,00:29:48:22,10
80 80 80
C2N03 between unions
C2N03 here in China and abroad.

0242 : 00:29:49:20,00:29:53:12,10
80 80 80
C2N03 On the one hand, I have to defend
C2N03 the legal rights of the employees,

0243 : 00:29:53:16,00:29:58:13,10
80 80 80
C2N03 on the other hand, I have to protect
C2N03 the interests of the company.

0244 : 00:30:01:00,00:30:05:16,10
80 80 80
C2N03 That's also different from Europe.
C2N03 We also have...

0245 : 00:30:05:20,00:30:09:12,11
80 80 80
C2N03 a law that forbids strikes.

0246 : 00:30:09:16,00:30:11:20,10
80 80 80
C2N03 Whether you can strike or not,
C2N03 is not relevant.

0247 : 00:30:11:24,00:30:15:15,10
80 80 80
C2N03 I've never seen a conflict solved
C2N03 by a strike.

0248 : 00:30:16:24,00:30:22:05,11
80 80 80
C2N03 In China, at least here with us,

0249 : 00:30:22:09,00:30:28:23,10
80 80 80
C2N03 the union and management
C2N03 look after the same interests.

0250 : 00:31:47:04,00:31:53:01,10
80 80 80
C2N03 Competition is fierce,
C2N03 especially since

0251 : 00:31:54:02,00:31:57:06,10
80 80 80
C2N03 China entered
C2N03 the World Trade Organization.

0252 : 00:31:57:10,00:32:00:21,10
80 80 80
C2N03 Particularly for us
C2N03 who make work gloves.

0253 : 00:32:01:00,00:32:06:17,10
80 80 80
C2N03 We are a labour-intensive enterprise
C2N03 that produces

0254 : 00:32:07:11,00:32:13:02,10
80 80 80
C2N03 simple manufactured goods.
C2N03 They are very easy to make.

0255 : 00:32:13:07,00:32:19:07,10
80 80 80
C2N03 You can even make them
C2N03 in a private workshop.

0256 : 00:32:30:12,00:32:33:23,11
80 80 80
C2N03 I worked here for 19 years.

0257 : 00:32:34:02,00:32:36:24,10
80 80 80
C2N03 We mainly had to check
C2N03 the quality of the gloves.

0258 : 00:32:38:00,00:32:43:00,10
80 80 80
C2N03 I lost my job after
C2N03 the reorganization of the company.

0259 : 00:32:43:07,00:32:47:02,10
80 80 80
C2N03 The company paid me
C2N03 about 200 euro,

0260 : 00:32:48:13,00:32:54:17,10
80 80 80
C2N03 that's all.
C2N03 Now I stay at home, doing nothing.

0261 : 00:32:56:19,00:33:02:19,10
80 80 80
C2N03 I'm also thinking of finding a job,
C2N03 but it is difficult at my age,

0262 : 00:33:02:23,00:33:08:12,11
80 80 80
C2N03 and I don't have any connections.

0263 : 00:33:15:21,00:33:20:05,10
80 80 80
C2N03 Before I worked 8 hours a day
C2N03 and I got 60 euro.

0264 : 00:33:20:09,00:33:25:00,10
80 80 80
C2N03 Now, I work 4 hours, just half a day,
C2N03 and I only have 30 to 40 euro.

0265 : 00:33:25:21,00:33:27:20,10
80 80 80
C2N03 There is just not enough work,
C2N03 right ?

0266 : 00:33:29:00,00:33:30:02,10
80 80 80
C2N03 Do you receive
C2N03 any supplementary benefits ?

0267 : 00:33:30:06,00:33:31:06,11
80 80 80
C2N03 No. Nothing at all.

0268 : 00:33:33:10,00:33:36:14,10
80 80 80
C2N03 When I get sick,
C2N03 I do not have any money left...

0269 : 00:33:56:19,00:34:02:01,10
80 80 80
C2N03 The ten of us all come
C2N03 from the same region.

0270 : 00:34:02:21,00:34:06:14,10
80 80 80
C2N03 From here to our home,
C2N03 it takes 8 to 10 hours by bus.

0271 : 00:34:07:20,00:34:09:03,11
80 80 80
C2N03 It seems that almost everybody here

0272 : 00:34:09:07,00:34:12:08,10
80 80 80
C2N03 started to work
C2N03 after their junior high school.

0273 : 00:34:12:12,00:34:17:19,10
80 80 80
C2N03 Some continued their studies,
C2N03 others went to the city.

0274 : 00:34:32:16,00:34:37:06,10
80 80 80
C2N03 I'm from Jiang Xi.
C2N03 I came here more than a year ago.

0275 : 00:34:37:12,00:34:40:04,11
80 80 80
C2N03 I'm thinking of making a bit money.

0276 : 00:34:41:02,00:34:45:12,11
80 80 80
C2N03 I mainly have to stitch seams.

0277 : 00:34:47:18,00:34:52:06,10
80 80 80
C2N03 I work about 9 hours a day.
C2N03 Once a week I have a day off.

0278 : 00:35:00:09,00:35:04:11,10
80 80 80
C2N03 After one month
C2N03 I became a regular worker,

0279 : 00:35:04:15,00:35:07:22,10
80 80 80
C2N03 and my salary went up
C2N03 to about 100 euro.

0280 : 00:35:18:02,00:35:22:06,10
80 80 80
C2N03 At the beginning I lived
C2N03 in the dormitory of the factory.

0281 : 00:35:22:10,00:35:27:12,10
80 80 80
C2N03 Since it has been demolished, my
C2N03 boss asked me to move over here.

0282 : 00:35:38:01,00:35:39:13,11
80 80 80
C2N03 What can we do ?

0283 : 00:35:41:12,00:35:42:24,11
80 80 80
C2N03 We must go for more technology,

0284 : 00:35:43:04,00:35:46:16,10
80 80 80
C2N03 because manual labour is
C2N03 not profitable anymore.

0285 : 00:37:48:01,00:37:49:14,11
80 80 80
C2N03 The jewelry case...

0286 : 00:37:49:18,00:37:53:02,10
80 80 80
C2N03 The workers are dying
C2N03 of lung problems

0287 : 00:37:53:06,00:37:57:11,10
80 80 80
C2N03 because of the bad working
C2N03 conditions. There's no protection.

0288 : 00:37:57:15,00:38:00:18,10
80 80 80
C2N03 You work there a few months
C2N03 and that's enough to kill you.

0289 : 00:38:00:22,00:38:05:19,10
80 80 80
C2N03 The Hong Kong organizations are
C2N03 taking care of this,

0290 : 00:38:05:23,00:38:09:11,10
80 80 80
C2N03 hiring lawyers for them
C2N03 to file lawsuits.

0291 : 00:38:18:17,00:38:22:09,10
80 80 80
C2N03 There was a shoe factory
C2N03 in Dongguan

0292 : 00:38:22:15,00:38:27:07,10
80 80 80
C2N03 producing almost every famous
C2N03 sports shoe in the world.

0293 : 00:38:27:11,00:38:28:24,11
80 80 80
C2N03 That's a huge factory.

0294 : 00:38:29:03,00:38:33:23,10
80 80 80
C2N03 Basically, the two months...
C2N03 in February and March

0295 : 00:38:35:00,00:38:41:03,10
80 80 80
C2N03 each worker got only 50 yuans,
C2N03 which is less than 10 euro.

0296 : 00:38:41:13,00:38:45:13,10
80 80 80
C2N03 These people work 12 hours a day,
C2N03 7 days a week.

0297 : 00:38:45:20,00:38:48:19,10
80 80 80
C2N03 And they just
C2N03 couldn't bear that anymore.

0298 : 00:38:48:23,00:38:51:16,10
80 80 80
C2N03 One day, they got drunk
C2N03 and they came back.

0299 : 00:38:51:20,00:38:56:00,10
80 80 80
C2N03 The management, you know,
C2N03 yelling at them as usual.

0300 : 00:38:56:09,00:39:00:15,10
80 80 80
C2N03 And these people just started
C2N03 beating up the manager

0301 : 00:39:00:19,00:39:03:11,10
80 80 80
C2N03 and damaged
C2N03 some of the machines.

0302 : 00:39:03:15,00:39:09:10,10
80 80 80
C2N03 Finally, several workers were detained
C2N03 and criminally charged.

0303 : 00:39:19:10,00:39:22:14,11
80 80 80
C2N03 The workers are being exploited.

0304 : 00:39:22:18,00:39:27:15,10
80 80 80
C2N03 If you don't see
C2N03 the management act illegally,

0305 : 00:39:28:20,00:39:31:22,11
80 80 80
C2N03 violating the workers' rights,

0306 : 00:39:32:01,00:39:35:22,10
80 80 80
C2N03 and you directly go to
C2N03 the workers' action, that's unfair.

0307 : 00:39:36:01,00:39:38:22,11
80 80 80
C2N03 That's the lawyers' point made there.

0308 : 00:39:49:02,00:39:52:00,11
80 80 80
C2N03 Their way of talking basically is...

0309 : 00:39:52:04,00:39:55:09,10
80 80 80
C2N03 to keep these workers'
C2N03 and farmers' mouth shut.

0310 : 00:39:55:13,00:39:58:09,10
80 80 80
C2N03 They call that
C2N03 social and political stability.

0311 : 00:39:58:13,00:40:00:16,11
80 80 80
C2N03 I call that a time bomb.

0312 : 00:40:00:20,00:40:07:06,10
80 80 80
C2N03 And we believe the only way
C2N03 to prevent this bomb from exploding,

0313 : 00:40:07:12,00:40:10:01,11
80 80 80
C2N03 is to get their mouth open.

0314 : 00:40:35:19,00:40:40:14,10
80 80 80
C2N03 In Shenzhen
C2N03 the biggest problems are

0315 : 00:40:42:12,00:40:48:00,10
80 80 80
C2N03 low wages,
C2N03 long working hours,

0316 : 00:40:48:09,00:40:50:20,11
80 80 80
C2N03 no social security

0317 : 00:40:51:04,00:40:55:21,11
80 80 80
C2N03 and no freedom of association.

0318 : 00:40:58:19,00:41:04:04,10
80 80 80
C2N03 You must have knowledge
C2N03 and then you can get organized.

0319 : 00:41:07:04,00:41:10:05,11
80 80 80
C2N03 We can help our migrant workers

0320 : 00:41:10:09,00:41:16:05,10
80 80 80
C2N03 if more Chinese people pay
C2N03 more attention to this exploitation.

0321 : 00:41:16:16,00:41:21:12,10
80 80 80
C2N03 A stronger international
C2N03 organization

0322 : 00:41:21:16,00:41:28:00,10
80 80 80
C2N03 can help to stop
C2N03 this downward movement.

0323 : 00:41:42:16,00:41:45:12,11
80 80 80
C2N03 The idea is to let people see that

0324 : 00:41:46:10,00:41:51:11,10
80 80 80
C2N03 organizing a union, having a union
C2N03 election is totally legitimate.

0325 : 00:41:51:24,00:41:54:04,11
80 80 80
C2N03 There is a legal base.

0326 : 00:42:22:23,00:42:25:17,10
80 80 80
C2N03 Chinese workers think
C2N03 that union people,

0327 : 00:42:25:24,00:42:29:12,10
80 80 80
C2N03 basically the union itself
C2N03 is part of the management.

0328 : 00:42:29:16,00:42:33:16,10
80 80 80
C2N03 So that is really poisoning
C2N03 the union thing.

0329 : 00:42:33:23,00:42:39:02,10
80 80 80
C2N03 A union is not a union anymore
C2N03 in China. It's a union being stolen.

0330 : 00:42:39:06,00:42:43:02,10
80 80 80
C2N03 A union should be on the workers'
C2N03 side, it should be elected,

0331 : 00:42:43:06,00:42:46:07,10
80 80 80
C2N03 it should be responsable
C2N03 to the workers.

0332 : 00:42:46:11,00:42:51:23,10
80 80 80
C2N03 And after that encourage the workers
C2N03 to have their own election,

0333 : 00:42:52:02,00:42:57:23,10
80 80 80
C2N03 taking over the factory level union
C2N03 and then the local union

0334 : 00:42:58:02,00:43:02:12,10
80 80 80
C2N03 and finally take over the whole union,
C2N03 back into the workers' hands.

0335 : 00:43:02:16,00:43:06:00,10
80 80 80
C2N03 That's how we see
C2N03 the Chinese workers' movement

0336 : 00:43:06:04,00:43:09:13,10
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C2N03 as part of an international
C2N03 trade union movement.

0337 : 00:43:09:17,00:43:15:16,10
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C2N03 Especially now that
C2N03 we're facing globalization

0338 : 00:43:16:03,00:43:20:16,10
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C2N03 and the workers' rights are being
C2N03 violated all over the world.

0339 : 00:43:20:20,00:43:25:14,10
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C2N03 The Chinese workers don't have
C2N03 the right to get organized

0340 : 00:43:25:18,00:43:30:23,10
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C2N03 and workers in other countries,
C2N03 other parts of the world

0341 : 00:43:31:02,00:43:32:12,11
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C2N03 can't get away from this.

0342 : 00:43:49:14,00:43:53:14,10
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C2N03 If you want to make that
C2N03 this movement cannot be stopped,

0343 : 00:43:54:02,00:43:57:04,10
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C2N03 it has to be based
C2N03 on the workers' solidarity

0344 : 00:43:57:08,00:44:00:08,10
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C2N03 and their own power,
C2N03 and nothing else.

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