Turkey PKK Fighters
7/10/91
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start Title: Foreign
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Pigeon,
man with baby pigeon and pigeons |
George: Oh, a baby one. Isn't that beautiful. (laughter) |
02.27.07 |
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George: The simple pleasure of a man whose boyhood
was spent in a poor Kurdish village in Turkey. Today Abdullah Ocalan is in exile - he is
Turkey's most wanted terrorist. |
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Apo: These are my doves of peace. |
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George: But one person's terrorist is another's
freedom fighter, so Ocalan is also known to millions of Kurds as simply, 'the
leader'. |
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Mountain
landscapes, George to camera Super: PETER GEORGE |
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mountains the Kurds have called home for 6000 years are today controlled by
four countries that no on would wish for as neighbours. In that direction Iran, over there Iraq
that way is Syria and very close to where we are now, in that direction is
Turkey. |
03.19.17 |
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And
it is Turkey, western in its outlook, a member of the NATO military alliance
and a would be member of the European union that today commits the worst
excesses of savagery against the Kurdish people. |
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Map
of Middle East, boat on river, George trekking with pack on back, boat ride |
To
tell the story of the PKK's battle against Turkish repression, you first have
to find your way into their land-locked territory. |
03.58.09 |
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With
such neighbours, it's no easy task. |
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George: Will you take me across the river? |
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George: We pose as tourists to pass through Syria,
crossing the Euphrates and Tigris rivers into northern Iraq. |
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Man
giving |
Chat |
04.44.20 |
directions |
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riding
on truck, soldiers and machine guns |
George: The Kurdish group that greets us says
Turkish troops are bombarding villages in the mountains in a push against PKK
guerillas. They agree to take us as
close to the frontline as they dare - but say its too dangerous to go right
up to the border. They are as
concerned for their own safety than for ours. |
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Old
woman interview |
Woman: The Turks bombed us, they brought our
houses down on our heads, they killed people, they cut off hands. They cut off parts of people's bodies. We just ran away. God saved us. |
05.16.14 |
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George
walking with men in |
George: What's the name of this place? |
05.30.08 |
village,
baby |
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women
with baby, man standing, woman sitting |
George: It's a taste of how the Turks conduct their
war against the Kurds - attacking villages just across their border in
northern Iraq that might give sanctuary to the PKK, forcing thousands of
peasants to flee just as they're about to gather in their harvest. |
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A
baby girl is so malnourished it barely has the strength to cry. |
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Interpreter: Sometimes she throws up. She as little milk for him. |
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George: This at harvest time, a time of
plenty. Turkey has never accepted a
separate Kurdish identity - instead labelling Kurdish as 'mountain Turks' and
forbidding them to use their own language, their own songs, their own
identity. |
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Women
carrying wood and grass, men and women running |
In
its efforts to crush Kurdish nationalism in Turkey, the army has razed to the
ground some 3,000 villages - displaced perhaps two million Kurds from their
homes. |
06.34.15 |
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Zeki
interview |
Zeki: The main reason for our struggle is so that
we can live on our own soil and win the right to live as human beings. |
07.03.13 |
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George: This man is known as 'Fingerless Zeki', a
legendary PKK guerilla commander, a dozen years in the mountains, a hand
mutilated in battle. |
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Zeki: It's not to dominate someone else's land or
to take away their rights or the fruit of their labour. We don't covet anyone else's land. That's why we believe we have right on our
side. |
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Soldiers
walking through bush |
George: In the mountains between five and ten
thousand PKK fighters have conducted a 12 year hit and run war - tying down a
Turkey army many times its size that is equipped with the latest NATO
technology. |
07.40.10 |
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But
the PKK's ambitions go well beyond this war for national rights - it wants to
bring about a revolution in Kurdish society itself. A starting point - to give women equal
status - one that includes their right to fight alongside their male comrades
in arms. |
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Interview
with man |
Sipan: Women in the world, in the middle east and
especially in Kurdistan have little influence. They are the oppressed gender. So these things are very important to
us: the liberation of women; their
right to express themselves; and their need to play a role in the general
development of society. |
08.22.12 |
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Apo
entering, shaking hands, walks along, talks to group of soldiers |
George: It is this combination of nationalism and
idealism that makes the PKK such a potent force - and its focus is this man -
the one everyone calls Apo - Abdullah Ocalan - the peasant boy who started
the Kurdish revolution. |
08.52.20 |
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Apo: Tis is the statue of our friend Agit. It's a shame that he became a martyr so
early in the struggle. he was one of
my best friends. |
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George: At his secret headquarters far from the
fighting in a country whose name we've agreed not to reveal, Apo's word is
law as it is throughout the PKK. |
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He
has a charisma that captures the hearts of his fighting men and women - an
iron will that brooks no disagreement amongst the PKK leadership (at least
publicly) and a sense of mission of biblical proportions. |
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Apo
interview |
Apo: Prophets have always been leaders in the
middle east. They are called messengers
and it's very hard to lead people without understanding the role of
prophets. To mobilise these people,
you have to use the prophets' methods.
You shouldn't get me wrong, I don't call myself a prophet, but I pay
attention to their methods as well.
It's necessary for success. |
09.58.14 |
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Soldiers
doing exercises, Milan exercising, interview with Milan, Apo looks on |
George: Apo's message attracts Kurdish disciples
from all over the world. Among them
this young Australian Kurd. As a
teenager, Milan abandoned life in Melbourne six years ago. She travelled half way around the world to
take up arms against the Turks and fell under Apo's spell. |
10.31.01 |
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Milan: He's not a normal leader, he's different. |
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George: What makes him different? |
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Milan: I believe he's a little bit yourself, not a
different person, like yourself, and also he's human and everything is nice
and warm. |
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George: Can you love a leader like this? |
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Milan: Of course, I love him. |
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George: She says she loves you. (laughter) |
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Apo: I find it very interesting. Is this what they've been talking about to
you? |
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Woman
bringing tea to table, Apo speaking to Peter George and Milan |
George: For his fighting forces and especially
towards the women, Apo displays all the attributes of a stern but loving
father. Caring, but critical. |
11.36.02 |
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Apo: We take notice of Milan. She's got some positive attributes, but
she's so emotional. She gets upset
when I tell her the Kurdish struggle is particularly hard for her. Kurdistan is a very wild place and she
can't cope with the Kurdish nature.
It's difficult for her to adapt. |
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George: But Milan is determined to adapt. |
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Milan
interview |
Milan: I believe I became more serious for life. Before I was living but never I feel the
life, I was just living, life taking me, not I was taking life. I can explain in Turkey better. Especially after joining the struggle, I
became more serious towards life because people are being oppressed massacred. You have to be responsible. |
12.14.18 |
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George: So you're also a 24 year old woman, it's
hard to kill people I suppose? Do you
have qualms about that? |
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Milan: It's not easy to kill human beings. I wish Kurdish people didn't have to kill
anyone. Kurds are forced to kill and
fight in this way. None of us joined
this struggle just to kill people, but we're forced to. |
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Soldiers,
photograph being passed along, soldiers eating |
Apo: More than 500 very young girls like Milan
have been killed. They were all
heroes. We want women to stand on
their own feet. They should discard
the traditional notion of the dependent woman, of women being
empty-headed. At the moment my biggest
project is to help women grow without relying on men. |
13.15.03 |
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George: Like many revolutionary movements the twin
goals of social reform and political freedom are natural bedfellows - the one
meaningless without the other. |
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The
austere life they lead as revolutionaries reflects the simple notion of their
cause - a matter of natural justice - that the millions of Kurds who make up
about a fifty of Turkey's population have the right to determine their own
political, and social development in the region of Turkey that is their
traditional homeland. |
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Apo: They say we're a Turkish movement, but it's
a nationalist and democratic struggle. |
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Apo
interview |
George: Do you accept the fact that the PKK is
responsible for at least a share of the human rites abuses in this war? |
14.29.13 |
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Apo: Amnesty International is behaving
unfairly. If there are some individual
cases against civilians that are out of our control, it shouldn't be seen as
a general thing. But the Turkey State
uses terror as a policy against a whole nation. |
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George: Then do you condemn any infringement of the
rule of law or of human rights abuses like the killing of civilians or the
taking of civilian hostages. |
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Apo: In previous years (Amnesty) drew up a big
list (against us), but last year there were only four or five
complaints. I hope this year they
don't have anything on their list.
We're already trying to stop it.
We abide by the Geneva Convention. |
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Soldiers
cleaning guns |
George: Turkey refuses to talk to the PKK,
labelling it as nothing but a Turkish organisation - much as the Israelis did
with the PLO until recent years. |
15.17.10 |
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The
truth of the matter is that Turkey's hands are far bloodier than the PKK's. |
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Interview
with woman whith child on lap |
Woman: There were no men there. The Turks took my husband. I just run away with these two children. |
15.38.09 |
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George: The testimony of a woman who two weeks ago
watched the Turks burn her village to the ground - she saved two children,
but her baby was burned to death. |
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Woman: I saved their lives - but had to leave my
other child in the flames. |
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People
making shelter with leaves, interview with woman |
George: Human rights groups like Amnesty
International regularly report such outrages, just as constantly, the Turks
deny responsibility and lay the blame at the PKK's door. |
15.59.01 |
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Woman: The PKK's good. Whenever the Turks come to our houses and
kill someone, they say the PKK did it.
But they didn't do it. When the
children were killed, they said the PKK did it. The PKK doesn't cause us any trouble. |
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Interview
with Apo |
George: What would be the most basic requirements
for the PKK to put down its arms? |
16.29.10 |
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Apo: All they have to do is sit down with us for
a dialogue. If they sit down to talk
the battle would finish. |
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George: What would be the point of the dialogue,
what would you wish to achieve from a Kurdish point of view? |
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Apo: We would like to solve the Kurdish problem
in a unified Turkey with democratic methods.
They don't want it. |
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Apo
playing ball with others |
George: Ocalan may pursue democratic goals, but
questions linger about some of his methods.
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17.09.13 |
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For
instance, while he seeks to portray a clean and healthy image for the PKK,
Turkey and some western police forces have accused it of paying for its war
by running drugs into Europe. |
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Apo
interview |
Apo: It's a big slander. If we're in that drug business, why
couldn't they catch any member of the PKK doing that. European security forces have lots of
information, so if its not a slander, why couldn't they catch anyone? |
17.39.22 |
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I'm
asking that question. For us even to
use one gram of marijuana is a crime. |
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Apo
with wounded soldiers |
George: It remains a war fought in the shadows -
vicious, dirty, hit and run - with a toll of dead and mutilated that
continues to mount: and it cannot be
won on the battlefield and everyone knows it. |
17.59.23 |
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Yet
rather than confront it, western powers prefer to ignore it in the interests
of NATO unity and good relations with Turkey. |
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Apo: A mine.
A mine caused this injury. |
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George: Why so many mine injuries? |
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Apo
talking to George |
Apo: Kurdistan is full of mines. There are hundreds of thousands of mines in
Kurdistan. It's a very big problem. Actually the world just doesn't know about
it. Hundreds of thousands of mines is
a big crime. |
18.31.06 |
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Mobs
of people, soldiers bashing into them |
News
Reporter: The Kurds of the camp of
Jacusa?? less than 10 kilometres from the Iranian border are starving. |
18.39.16 |
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George: A few years ago, the superpowers did take
some notice of the Kurds - but that was only in the wake of the Gulf war
against Saddam Hussein when Iraqi Kurds were encouraged to rise against him. It was a total disaster. |
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Man: Our children are suffering from hunger and
starvation so we've got to make first something to help us. |
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Man: We know that, you need food, clothing,
tents, you need everything. |
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Interior
aircraft, tracking shots of snowy mountains, George in field walking along |
George: The allies eventually declared a safe-haven
from Saddam to Iraqi Kurds - they didn't bother to give the same protection
to the Turkish Kurds from the Turkish shells. |
19.14.06 |
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So
today, there is deafening diplomatic silence when Turkish troops invade the
so called safe-haven to devastate villages which might support the PKK's
goals. |
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Rocky
landscape, George walking, talking to camera |
George: This is what a Kurdish village looks like
after Turkish bombs, shells and troops have finished with it. Eight villagers died here, the rest ran
away. |
19.45.20 |
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irony then that the Turks are not demanding that they take control of the
five year old operation poised hammer in which American planes fly over this
region to protect the Kurds from Saddam Hussein. |
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To
give the Turks that job would be like putting a fox in charge of a chicken
coop. |
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Soldiers
walking along, mountain landscape, soldiers singing and dancing |
George: Lightly equipped, mobile and hidden amongst
mountains that are natural defensive positions, the PKK could continue
indefinitely to confront and harass the Turks. |
20.17.12 |
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Singing |
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The
mountains are both sanctuary and prison - surrounded as they are by four
nations that covet the rich mineral deposits, fertile land and plentiful
water supplies of the region. |
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And
despite the cultural ties that bind them and the enemies that surround them,
the Kurds are cursed by historic tribal infighting that is exploited by their
enemy and undermines their common cause. |
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Zeki
interview, night time, singing and sitting in front |
Zeki: We don't want too much or too little. We want what all the other nations in the
world have. |
21.20.10 |
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George: They vow to fight on and they will. But without strong friends to back them,
the PKK is stalemated - the cause cannot be won, yet the war is destined to
continue. |
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George
Negus |
Negus: Peter George and what looks like a pretty
futile struggle by the Turkish Kurds for recognition and statehood. |
22.02.07 |
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