PILOT 1: We are currently 22.000 feet
above the ground, and up here only really heavy artillery would be able to hit us, if
they had any interest. But we have been told that in
some of the places we’ve flown over, where there have been UN people
standing on the ground, that some of the local people
on the ground had been standing there, shooting at us with their rifles, but
their bullets don’t reach more than halfway to the
plane.
PILOT 2: We
often sit here and tell each other that, if we
landed on the ground here, these people would never have seen
an airplane before. Over and over, we wonder about
how people manage to live in some of the places that we can see from high above, out of the window. But evidently, they can. They’re
a pretty tough people.
MAN IN CAR: But
showing Afghanistan in this day and age is no easy task. Authorities
have prohibited us from filming people. No one must be filmed, not even animals. It is strictly
forbidden to film any of God´s creations.
Tape:
According to Islam, and according to our society, they are not allowed.
But
why?
Because
it is in Islamic rule, there is no question of why. In Islamic society nothing
is allowed, such as television, such as ties, such as [Anya Biracardi,
Biracardos] to play.
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This is the tradition of Pashtuns that women stay home and take care of
the household chores while men work in the field.
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They take care of the children, stitch clothes for us, cook, they
manage the household chores and we the men take care of everything outside.
Do you think that the women would want to work in the fields and maybe even go to school?
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No.
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Why not?
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They are not used to it.
And you think that it is better to go on this way?
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The Islam does not allow that.
What about the girls, would they go to school?
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No.
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No, the people do not want them to go to school.
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Specially the people in the villages.
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This is considered a taboo among Pashtuns if their women go to school.
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We don’t like this.
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Do not look at us.
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Yes, people seed opium and we also do it
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but the problem is that if we are provided help financially, we will
stop opium production otherwise the opium production cannot be stopped without
anything else
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The Taliban have sympathized with us because we are poor people and we
cannot make a living with anything other than this.
-I joined them at Kandahar, and still now I am with them, and I am working as a secretary of Defence Minister.
-And what was the reason why you chose to join the Taliban?
-Because Islam has [...] when other people are taking your country, you have to join the war. You participate in the war. I want to die in the war.
-When do you think the war will be over?
-When all the cruel people of Afghanistan have been punished, and taken out from the country, then the war will be ended.
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Can you please take some of my bullets in your car with you?
No no, don’t chuck that one
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This was a one-way fire.
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This was not a fight.
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We have seen a lot of fighting in Afghanistan and that is why I know
this was a one-sided fire.
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And after half an hour, the firing intensified and most of the people
on the road, children, younger, older, men and women were killed.
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The bodies were hurt. Dogs had eaten them and only after 3 days we were
allowed to collect the bodies.
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Manan Niazi would announce on the radio “If you do not prove you’re
honest to the Hazara, we will teach you a lesson.
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We will kill you all, men and women, either convert to Islam or die.
They held different customs, I agree, but the holy custom that is Sharia, we will keep all of the customs under the frame of Sharia, no custom will be allowed without Islamic culture. Nothing will be allowed. All the cultures and all the customs will be within the frame of the religion of Islam.
INTERVIEWER: What
makes a Danish person want to fly over
Afghanistan?
PILOT 2: It´s a good job, it’s a challenge, it’s generally
considered to be a formative experience. It’s
also just exciting to
be able to see some of the world, and then we also get the added bonus
of actually being able to help some people out here.
INTERVIEWER: Isn’t
it risky to fly over Afghanistan?
PILOT 1: No, I
don’t think so. The safety net that the UN provides us with makes
it so that both parties have permitted
us to fly over certain areas within scheduled time
frames. Within any given time frame, we
have about an hour to make
it to the airport.
INTERVIEWER: So,
does that mean that the parties are more or
less having a ceasefire while you’re in the air?
Pilot 1: You
could say that, you could say that. Only on rare occasion is there
an actual war going on when we arrive at an airport. This
time, there is probably a bit of action going on in Kabul, but nothing is going to happen
in the time interval that
we’ve been given.
WOMAN: In March,
a decree came that proclaimed that foreign
women should not drive cars. So, we sat next
to the chauffeur in the passenger seat. Exactly one
and a half months later, the next decree came.
If the driver is Afghani, foreign women are not allowed to sit in
the front seat, they have to sit in the
backseat. And then the next one came, which meant
that we could no longer have Afghani
men sitting next to us in the backseat.
INTERVIEWER: So,
when you stroll down the street, do you feel a sense
of hostility towards you?
WOMAN? I love
that you say that I’m “strolling” down the street. That’s one of the things I never do. I am actually a prisoner in a gilded cage.
I only have the place where I live, the
delegation, which is the place where the
international branch of Red Cross have all
their offices, and then I have the hospital with
which I am affiliated. You’re not allowed to discriminate between different
sections of the population, and there are actually quite a few different population groups
here in the country. Some are considered to be
superior to others. Likewise, we have another
big issue revolving around the role of men and women,
specifically gender discrimination, which means I´m always on guard. When I arrived back in
November, they had gotten this idea of sending
all the women to live
in the same place here in Kabul. The place
had no running water, no electricity, nothing
worked, and there were
no doctors. This
was regarded as unacceptable within the international community.
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The judge says that the order of Allah should prevail.
A simple person cannot cut a
head, they don’t know the way of cutting the head, they are poor, they see the
doctors to cut the head. When that person commits a crime, it is the rule of
Islam that the hand of a thief and the […] should be cut.
WOMAN: Sometimes I tell
myself, “I should go home. I should not put up with all this. We should all
boycott them. Let the country collapse, and then maybe they’ll slowly build
themselves up again, all by themselves”. But on the other hand, we have given
them some expectations, and I don’t have the consciousness to let them down, to
leave them in their own mess, so to speak. I’m starting to believe that with
our presence, we can help minority groups and also
affect the government.
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Are you happy that the Taliban are here?
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What they are doing is not right.
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The Taliban’s are mostly against this
MAN: When the Taliban took
over East Afghanistan about one and a half years ago, we were in the process of
building six schools. Two for girls and four for boy. But it was apparent to us
that in those areas, the Taliban-movement would not allow the girls´ schools to
have any girls in them. That was clear to us. So, then we decided to cease
construction of the school, because we had decided that our limits had been
reached. But because we also feel that education is so important in
Afghanistan, we started to look elsewhere for places where girls were actually being educated.
We have made a deal with the
local authorities, agreeing that there will be girls in those schools. If that
doesn’t work, we’ll call it quits.