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SCOTLAND –
Lockerbie: Waiting for Justice
13 minutes 33
December 1998
An EO production for 2 Vandaag
Father J. Mosey |
Father J. Mosey: I can say I forgive
these people who murdered my daughter, but of course unless they repent and
apologise and receive that forgiveness it doesn't do them any good at all.
Music |
00.02.02 |
Shot of tomb stones |
Music. |
00.02.14 |
Picture of Helga - pan to J. Mosey |
J. Mosey: Helga, she was 19 and a
very bubbly and lively young lady, she was a very committed Christian. |
00.02.35 |
Driving through country side |
J. Mosey: She had been home for one
week, by the way, from America. I had taken her down to Heathrow. I kissed
her goodbye and said "Don't forget to call your mum before you board the
plane" |
00.02.45 |
Shot of Pan Am Plane |
J. Mosey: I got back home, had some
supper and then the phone rang and it was an old
widow lady from our church and she said "Pastor, did Helga get away
alright?" |
00.02.59 |
J. Mosey |
J. Mosey: And I said
“yes Winnie thanks very much, Why?” |
00.03.08 |
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J. Mosey: well she said,
"because there has been an Aeroplane that's crashed in Scotland”. |
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Shot of burning homes |
J. Mosey: And I turned on the
Television. I called my wife and son and there was a news flash five to nine
that, pictures of Lockerbie in flames, and then they said that Pan Am flight
103, |
00.03.15 |
J. Mosey |
J. Mosey: and my wife straight away
said, "that's Helga's plane". And our son was saying "NO NO NO
NO". And my wife was just saying "Helga Helga Helga". The time
that her little girl needed her most she wasn't able to
be there. And I stood there and there were no words coming at all. |
00.03.29 |
Shot of cemetery gates - M. Kerr
walking through cemetery |
M. Kerr (citizen of Lockerbie): The
first areas that we found that showed it was an airliner was the empty
containers, food containers, plastic, knifes, forks, spoons. Bread rolls,
these were lying about. My nephew found a passport. You go and find, first of all where your family is. By the time we got down to Wage street the
police had actually evacuated all the people that
were near the site. |
00.03.55 |
Shot of M. Kerr in neck brace |
M. Kerr: There wasn't very much you
could do. The first victims that I saw, the first victim I saw we checked to
see if there was a pulse but they were obviously dead. |
00.04.23 |
Shot of files - pan to David Ben-Aryeah on phone |
Telephone ringing. V/O David Ben-Aryeah:
My pager went off and it said ‘major incident’. I
walked into the centre of Lockerbie and I kicked something. I looked down and
it was a piece of metal. The overall smell was of aviation spirit, of
aviation fuel burning. |
00.04.35 00.04.43 |
Shot of David Ben-Aryeah Shot of helicopter |
David Ben-Aryeah:
The sound of helicopters rotating over the houses trying to find out what was
going on, trying to recover bodies. Groups of local people standing just
stunned. They would have given their lives to help survivors but there was
nobody to survive. They didn't know what had happened. They had no
comprehension as to what had happened. It was total and utter chaos. Music. |
00.05.00 00.05.07 |
Shot of houses |
Music. Ten years after, the truth about the
bomb outrage is still unknown. |
00.05.24 00.05.35 |
David Ben-Aryeah |
David Ben-Aryeah:
the truth for there are only two truths about Lockerbie right now; there was
a bomb, it exploded, and in fact a third truth, 270 people died. Other than that it's all supposition. |
00.05.40 |
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Dutch interviewer: That's not much
after almost 10 years. |
00.05.52 |
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David Ben-Aryeah:
Ten years and 17 million dollars |
00.05.56 |
Shot of wreckage |
David Ben-Aryeah:
They deserve better |
00.05.59 |
People taking bodies away Libyan Men |
Initially, the bomb outrage was
ascribed to Iran. Then, three years later, in 1991, two Libyans were pointed
out as suspects. As a result, international sanctions were imposed upon
Libya. The two suspects consulted the Scottish criminal lawyer Alister Duff. |
00.06.01 |
Shot of shops |
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00.06.16 |
Alister Duff – Lawyer for accused -
at desk |
V/O Alister Duff: There are no particularly odd ethical considerations associated with this case. In a sense it’s a normal case. |
00.06.22 |
Alister Duff |
Alister Duff: I act for the two
clients, Mr Megrahi, Mr Fhimah. I give them advice. |
00.06.31 |
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Dutch Interviewer: When they offered
you the case how long did you have to think about it to accept it. |
00.06.37 |
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Alister Duff: Well, I didn't have to
think about it at all to accept it. I wasn't given any length of time to make
my mind up. There was never any question, having been asked to become
involved in the case, there was never any question but that I would. |
00.06.44 |
American Press Officer at podium (Dutch subtitles) |
American Press Officer: We charge
that two Libya officials, acting as operatives of the Libyan intelligence
service, planted and detonated the bomb that destroyed PanAm
flight 103. |
00.07.01 |
Alister Duff |
Alister Duff: To be honest the most
that I can say is that both of them deny any
involvement in the Lockerbie bombing, both of them deny that they have ever
been members of the Libyan intelligence services. |
00.07.13 |
Wreckage |
V/O: How can it be that the plane was
only 2/3 full during the disaster, if it was expected to be full two weeks
before the bomb blast? It turns out that VIP's were taken away from the
plane. |
00.07.29 |
David Ben-Aryeah
at desk |
David Ben-Aryeah:
Embassy wise I have details of at least ten. There was a very explicit one of
the bulletin board of the American board in Moscow which advised people from
travelling on Pan Am from Frankfurt to America over the period of the 21st
December. |
00.07.41 |
Pan Am flight taking off |
V/O: In the memo, dated December 13th 1988, drafted by the American government, to all the
embassy personnel, the bomb blast on a PanAm plane
from Frankfurt to the United States is announced. Therefore
they are advised not to fly with this Airline company. The Scottish member of
parliament MP Tam Dalyell thinks the truth about this case of with holding
these warnings, should come out. |
00.08.01 |
MP Tam Dalyell Looking over water |
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MP Tam Dalyell |
MP Tam Dalyell: Can you imagine the
reaction in the United States and the public opinion there if they had learnt
that there was sufficient knowledge to pull very
important people off the plane from the Moscow embassy and let the kids
travel to their death? |
00.08.26 |
Father J Mosey |
J Mosey: The coping is on a day to
day basis. There were bad days and there still are, occasionally not so often
now. But there were bad days, we struggled the same as anyone else. It has effected me more emotionally. |
00.08.50 |
J Mosey in chair |
J Mosey: You know I had a little bit
of, not a full blown breakdown, but a couple of
years ago situations arose that I couldn't handle, that I normally would have
handled and I had to take a break from my church. But we feel God has helped
us marvellously to be positive in it all. |
00.09.08 |
Man and Woman signing papers |
Netherlands (Last week, 30 September, 1998) V/O: Last September, the Dutch
minister of Foreign Affairs Van Aartsen, signed an
agreement with Great Britain to let the case against the two Libyans take
place on the former American airbase in Soest, The
Netherlands. The Libyans are not to blame for the fact it took so long, says Robert
Black. In 1993 he already advised to proceed the case in another country,
preferably the Netherlands. And under Scottish law. Last week, Black had another
meeting with Colonel Gaddafi. |
00.09.25 |
Robert Black |
Robert Black: May I say that Colonel Gaddafi
said to me in our meeting that if the Libyans had been convinced that the
scheme for trial in The Netherlands was a genuine scheme, not one which had been
designed deliberately with pit falls in it for his government and his
citizens, these two men would already be en route to Holland. These were his
very words and he said them in English "they would today be en route to
Holland". |
00.09.56 |
Sign - Visitors |
V/O: (Today, 10 September 1998) Last
September, Libya announced not to agree with the choice for Soesterberg. Libya fears that the suspects will be
extradited to Scotland or the United States, in spite of
the treaty. |
00.10.34 |
Robert Black |
Robert Black: Once these people
arrive in the Netherlands, what is to prevent Britain and The Netherlands
saying "ah, we will alter this agreement and provide for their
extradition to the United States or to Scotland itself. Now you may say, of
course the British government and the Dutch government would not be so
underhand, they would not dream of doing such a thing. You may think that, I
think that. Colonel Gaddafi has no such confidence in my government or in
your government. And what he wants is that possibility to be excluded in the
treaty, and I must say it doesn't seem to me to be an unreasonable thing to
ask. |
00.10.46 |
Shots of crowds |
V/O: Another objection for the Libyan
leader Gaddafi, is the fact that the Americans turn out to have relations
with Soesterberg. There is a treaty that says they
can use the airbase 4 weeks a year. Above that they can station 2 fighter
squadrons in times of crisis. |
00.11.34 |
Soldiers at barracks |
Robert Black: There is still of
course a worry about a hit squad or perhaps a snatch team coming in but the |
00.11.53 |
Robert Black |
Robert Black: airfield solution
seemed to be a very neat solution to that particular
problem. Dutch: Initially. Robert Black: Initially that's right,
as you know certain difficulties over that scheme have now arisen,
particularly over the fact that there is a small, but nevertheless,
continuing American link to that base. |
00.12.00 |
Shot of statue |
Bells Ringing. In the meantime, here
in Scotland, no one thinks that the case against the Libyan suspects will
lead anywhere. |
00.12.29 |
Supreme court and MP Dalyell |
MP Dalyell: The case that they claim
is watertight, the crown office the legal department in Edinburgh claim that
they have doesn't exist in the form that they claim to have. And my
suspicions have been for a long time that the last thing people in British
and America, certainly the legal department in Edinburgh want, is any kind of
a trial because the poverty of their evidence would be exposed. |
00.12.35 |
Sky, pan
to tree to grave stone |
Music. J. Mosey: The nearest we have come to
anger is with our western governments. We know terrorists put bombs on
planes, that's what they do. |
00.13.13 |
J. Mosey |
J. Mosey: It's not good, it's not
right but that's what they do. |
00.13.19 |
Gravestone |
But we do expect some higher level of
integrity from our governments, and we haven't had it. |
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