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00:00:11.02:El Salvador's brutal gang conflict has|claimed the lives of tens of thousands.|In 2012 --> the government brokered a|truce between rivals, MS-13 and 18 Street.
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00:00:18.04:Official statistics show the murder rate has dropped.|On the streets, people tell a different story.
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00:47:47.05:Mateo|18 Street Member
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01:33:19.03:Baja el cańón
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00:05:11.08:Santa Cruz Porrillo, San Vicente
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00:21:58.02:Turín, Ahuachapán
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00:29:40.04:Santa Ana
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00:31:11.06:Teresa Carballo
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00:39:42.00:San Salvador
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00:41:30.08:Tonacatepeque, San Salvador
00:41:33.01:
00:41:58.00:Sgt Jonny|Anti-Gang Squad
00:42:00.04:
00:44:45.03:Member of 18 Street
00:44:47.08:
00:46:11.06:El Snayper|MS-13 Leader
00:46:13.07:
00:46:26.07:MS-13 Leadership
00:46:29.02:
00:46:43.04:Raúl Mijango|Truce negotiator
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00:46:54.00:As part of the truce deal,|gang leaders from both|sides were transferred|from maximum security|jails to open prisons,
00:47:00.02:
00:47:00.02:where they continue to|receive many privileges.
00:47:03.04:
00:47:12.06:El Diablito|MS-13 Leader
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00:50:27.02:Tonacatepeque, San Salvador
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00:50:48.04:Mateo|18 Street Member
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00:56:17.00:Santa Ana
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00:57:25.05:Teresa Carballo
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01:00:38.08:Tonacatepeque, San Salvador
01:00:42.00:
01:08:48.04:Sonya de Larios
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01:11:07.04:Apopa, San Salvador
01:11:10.04:
01:12:02.02:Mateo|18 Street Member
01:12:06.04:
01:13:52.02:Sgt Jonny|Anti-Gang Squad
01:13:55.08:
01:14:27.04:Tonacatepeque, San Salvador
01:14:30.06:
01:15:23.02:Juan Esteban Ticas
01:15:27.05:
01:24:02.05:Sonya de Larios
01:24:07.03:
01:26:21.02:Sgt Jonny|Anti-Gang Squad
01:26:25.01:
01:26:47.02:Juan Esteban Ticas
01:26:52.04:
01:27:37.00:Juan Esteban Ticas
01:27:41.08:
01:31:58.06:In 2013, Israel Ticas|finished his most|challenging project so far.|After two years of|excavation --> four bodies|were found at the site|in Turin.
01:32:08.03:
01:32:09.05:After almost two years,|Teresa Carballo eventually|buried her grandson.|He had been murdered.
01:32:19.02:
01:32:20.08:Mateo is still in the witness|protection programme.|He continues to|help the authorities.
01:32:30.05:
01:32:31.04:The truce between MS-13 and 18 Street|is still in place.
01:32:35.03:
01:33:19.03:La Calle
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00:00:37.01:It's recording.
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00:00:39.04:Go on Ticas, go on Ticas!|Smile Ticas!
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00:01:15.03:Keep going!
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00:01:20.05:Too much slack on the hose!
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00:01:41.03:Give me more rope!|Too much slack on the hose!
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00:01:50.06:There was a black bag floating in|the water at the bottom.
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00:01:54.03:It apparently contained the baby girl's head.
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00:01:57.03:I opened it and examined her.
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00:02:01.01:She had black hair and eyes,|she was already decomposing.
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00:02:05.00:I verified that it was her.
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00:02:07.06:She looked like a little toy doll.
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00:02:10.02:This situation moved me so much,|that I just got lost.
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00:02:14.03:I was alone down there, 25 metres down,|holding the little girl's head.
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00:02:19.04:I held her little head,|and moved the hair from her face.
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00:02:25.01:I could see her black eyes,|wide open, as you can see
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00:02:29.03:with a fixed look.
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00:02:31.07:I started talking to her.|I said, 'Little princess
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00:02:35.06:who did this to you? Don't worry|I'll get you out. I'll get you out.'
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00:02:39.07:And I removed the hair from|her little face.
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00:03:46.07:I have been working as|a criminologist for 20 years.
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00:03:52.01:And 13 years on the|forensic side of things.
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00:03:54.07:It's very difficult|being the only one in the country.
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00:04:16.00:Up-to-the minute news, from Radio Cuscatlán.
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00:04:19.01:Our second bulletin starts here.
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00:04:28.02:It's midday in beautiful El Salvador.
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00:04:30.08:Task Force Apollo has captured 4 gangsters|accused of various crimes in La Libertad.
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00:04:37.02:Staying with this topic,
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00:04:38.06:6 gang members were also arrested by the armed|forces in various regions of the north of the country.
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00:04:45.02:Meanwhile, a member of 18 Street, identified as|José Rafael Recinos Ramírez, also known as 'El Chogui'
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00:04:51.01:aged 24, has been detained in Apopa|for resisting arrest.
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00:04:57.05:After the break, today's business news.
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00:05:15.01:Israel...
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00:05:16.00:Israel Antonio Ticas, criminologist and|forensic investigator for the Attorney General.
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00:05:21.02:Ticas...
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00:05:24.02:Criminologist...
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00:05:25.01:and forensic investigator.
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00:05:36.00:Here it is.
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00:05:45.00:Here it is.
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00:05:51.07:It's human.
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00:05:54.06:It's human and it's not very deep.
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00:06:11.02:Has it rained these past 8 days?
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00:06:13.03:Yes, a bit.
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00:06:24.02:Nature teaches me,|that this has been disturbed.
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00:06:28.00:There's a cut,|an old one...
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00:06:30.04:in this root.
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00:06:32.02:So this means that it could be|5 or 8 days old.
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00:06:35.05:And the root was going this way.|Here is the grave.
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00:06:38.07:I'm gonna outline the grave,|shape it through all of this.
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00:06:43.04:The solidity of the earth guides me. This here.
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00:06:49.02:See? Solid.
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00:06:51.06:So here,|this is loose earth...
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00:06:54.03:this is virgin.
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00:06:57.04:So here is...
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00:06:59.05:the outline of the grave...
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00:07:02.04:that people dug.
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00:07:05.07:See? The edge of the grave.|I need to find it...
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00:07:09.03:First, I need to find the outline...
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00:07:11.08:and based on that,
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00:07:13.05:I can start the excavation.
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00:07:16.01:The outline of the grave will tell me|what type of excavation I can do.
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00:07:20.04:I can do it in 'C', in 2D.
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00:07:23.03:Or I can do it...
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00:07:25.02:rectangular, in 3D.
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00:07:27.08:So I can walk around the grave.
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00:07:30.06:Now,
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00:07:31.05:what's the difference between my techniques...
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00:07:34.08:and those used by other anthropologists|around the world?
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00:07:38.02:If they find a grave like this,|they work here.
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00:07:41.06:They get inside the grave,
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00:07:44.01:and they start digging here until|they reach the body.
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00:07:47.03:But me, as a criminologist, thinking|like a criminologist, I'm interested in evidence.
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00:07:53.01:What's more, we are interested|in the body and in reconstructing the scene.
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00:07:57.04:So from there, the techniques we are using|allow me to raise this bit higher.
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00:08:09.08:So these are rival gangs.
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00:08:13.02:Here is the 13...
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00:08:15.01:The other here is...
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00:08:17.06:Well, one is MS-13.
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00:08:20.07:The other is 18 Street.
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00:08:23.02:So this means that 18 Street|don't care for...
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00:08:26.01:MS-13. It's the rivalry|that exists between them.
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00:08:30.07:This one?
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00:08:34.06:Yes, look...
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00:08:40.02:Imagine this!|Imagine where we are!
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00:08:44.03:You're right, we hadn't noticed this.
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00:08:46.07:There are trees...
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00:08:49.01:But we must be right on the turf border|of the two gangs.
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00:08:55.06:The grave is here, look.
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00:08:57.03:Yes, correct.
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00:08:59.01:Here.
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00:08:59.07:Correct.
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00:09:02.00:From here, we'll chop.|From here, to here.
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00:09:04.04:All of this needs to be removed.
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00:09:06.07:We'll dig it up.
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00:09:48.05:FBI
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00:09:51.00:KGB, from the KGB.
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00:09:53.07:Ok, that's enough.
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00:09:55.03:Have you filmed it?
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00:10:56.00:We shape the grave to raise it...
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00:10:58.06:like a sarcophagus...
00:11:01.01:
00:11:01.05:and that's what we call|forensic sculpture.
00:11:04.04:
00:11:05.00:In other places and other countries,
00:11:07.05:
00:11:07.08:they get in there...
00:11:09.08:
00:11:10.00:and start digging until they reach the body.
00:11:13.00:
00:11:13.00:When they get to it, they grab it by the feet.
00:11:15.08:
00:11:15.08:and pull it out so that|Forensic Medicine can identify it.
00:11:19.06:
00:11:19.06:That can be done in 25 minutes or half-an-hour.|But the peri-mortem is lost.
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00:11:26.01:You lose the... the...
00:11:28.05:
00:11:28.05:body language.|You can tell how the body was left there.
00:11:32.06:
00:11:32.06:But if you just pull it out,|you don't know what happened to it,
00:11:37.03:
00:11:37.03:or if the person put up resistance.
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00:12:20.03:Sometimes I don't have bleach|to decontaminate my boots,
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00:12:23.04:or my tools.|They make my car smell.
00:12:26.08:
00:12:26.08:It stinks! It smells of dead people.
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00:12:29.04:When someone gets in, they say,|'Your car stinks of dead people.'
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00:12:33.00:I ask them, 'What do you want it to smell like?|I work with dead people.
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00:12:36.02:If I worked selling flowers,|it would smell of roses, but I don't.
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00:12:39.05:So it smells of putrefaction,|of dead people.'
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00:12:43.08:Ok, buddy...
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00:12:45.06:It's time for you to come out...
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00:12:47.06:into the light and tell us who you are.
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00:12:50.01:A man or a woman.
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00:12:51.04:Are you a man, woman or child?
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00:12:54.04:Or are you gay?
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00:14:15.04:This is the upper body, right?
00:14:17.04:
00:14:18.02:No, it's the bum.
00:14:20.01:
00:14:21.07:No.
00:14:23.00:
00:14:23.04:It's the front section.
00:14:25.04:
00:14:25.04:This is the torso.
00:14:27.06:
00:14:28.05:So here we found a dismembered body.
00:14:31.06:
00:14:32.05:I think it's male.
00:14:34.06:
00:14:34.06:A man, completely dismembered.
00:14:38.08:
00:14:39.07:Completely dismembered.
00:14:41.07:
00:14:42.02:It was hard because of the winter.
00:14:45.06:
00:14:45.06:The rain. The mud.|It was very difficult.
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00:14:48.06:We weren't able to do what we should have done,
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00:14:52.02:because there was too much water.
00:14:56.08:
00:14:57.05:But we managed.|We recovered 100% of the body.
00:15:02.02:
00:15:02.02:There is nothing left in the grave,|I checked. There is nothing more.
00:15:06.05:
00:15:12.01:You can't work with dismembered bodies|in the grave itself, nor at the side.
00:15:17.01:
00:15:17.01:It's too difficult because of all the body parts.
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00:15:22.04:So you have to remove it and|put it back together...
00:15:25.02:
00:15:25.02:to make sure nothing has been missed.
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00:15:28.01:Not a single body part.
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00:15:30.01:That's why we have removed the body.
00:15:33.03:
00:15:33.03:When the body is not dismembered,|the medic's assistant, him over there
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00:15:38.07:enters the site to bag it up.
00:15:42.04:
00:15:42.04:But in this case it's necessary|to reconstruct the body.
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00:16:11.01:This is the official account,|according to the newspaper.
00:16:15.04:
00:16:15.04:The police say that an informant saw various|men, on the 29th May|around 6pm.
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00:16:20.02:They had a guy in a red truck,|whom they beat up when they got there.
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00:16:28.03:And then...
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00:16:31.05:And then they killed|him with a machete.
00:16:35.02:
00:16:35.02:That's what they believe happened there.
00:16:38.04:
00:17:03.07:I always, always find them with a brain.|This person didn't have one.
00:17:07.04:
00:17:07.04:He didn't have a brain. His skull was|split in two. He was totally mutilated.
00:17:13.01:
00:17:13.01:And he was buried as a John Doe?
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00:17:15.05:As an unidentified person.
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00:17:35.08:We don't know if it's a man or a woman that's coming.
00:17:40.05:
00:17:40.05:Because here we get everything. Children, women,
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00:17:45.00:teenagers.
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00:17:46.07:This month we have had two.
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00:17:49.02:You have had two this month?
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00:17:50.05:Two unidentified bodies.
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00:18:08.06:Forensic Medicine take away the dismembered body,
00:18:12.06:
00:18:12.06:they take it to the mortuary,|they do a post-mortem,
00:18:16.06:
00:18:17.01:they remove a little bit of bone...
00:18:19.06:
00:18:20.02:For...
00:18:21.04:
00:18:22.00:For DNA in case a family member turns up.
00:18:24.06:
00:18:24.06:They keep the body for 5 or 6 days.
00:18:28.03:
00:18:28.04:If nobody comes to claim him,|they put him in a black bag and tag him.
00:18:32.03:
00:18:34.03:Inside the same bag they...
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00:18:37.03:they put details of where he was found,|when he was found, post-mortem details
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00:18:41.05:who was responsible, everything.|And then he is buried in a communal pit...
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00:18:45.05:in the cemetery of San Vicente, and there he stays.
00:18:47.08:
00:19:02.05:Where are you coming from?
00:19:04.00:
00:19:04.00:From Santa Cruz Porrillo.
00:19:05.06:
00:19:06.01:Santa Cruz Porrillo.
00:19:07.03:
00:19:20.04:What a smell!
00:19:22.00:
00:19:32.03:I see you have a separate bag there.
00:19:34.07:
00:19:35.00:It's the clothes.
00:19:35.07:
00:19:45.02:It's really small, isn't it?
00:19:47.02:
00:19:47.02:Yes. It's dismembered.
00:19:49.02:
00:19:49.03:Dismembered?
00:19:50.06:
00:19:50.06:Yes.
00:19:51.04:
00:19:54.03:May God forgive you.
00:19:57.01:
00:20:35.07:This number is how...
00:20:38.08:
00:20:38.08:they'll find him. With this number.
00:20:42.00:
00:20:47.03:They just do the post-mortem, extract DNA,|and bury the body again.
00:20:53.05:
00:20:54.02:The body will stay there forever.
00:20:57.00:
00:20:57.00:Why? Because nobody's been told|their son has been found.
00:21:00.08:
00:21:00.08:It's a problem we have in this country.
00:21:04.06:
00:21:04.06:And that's what I always say.|That I would like to change this.
00:21:09.04:
00:21:09.04:I'd like to change this system.
00:21:12.03:
00:21:15.07:I feel happy when I find a body,|I go look for one and I find two.
00:21:19.04:
00:21:19.05:That second one is unidentified,|but what good is that?
00:21:23.01:
00:21:23.01:I take it from one pit, they put it|in another. In the cemetery.
00:21:27.04:
00:21:27.04:In the public cemetery.|So nothing is really being done.
00:21:30.06:
00:21:30.06:They're just moving the body from|one place to another.
00:21:33.08:
00:21:33.08:You told me there's nobody|really responsible for this?
00:21:38.05:
00:21:38.05:No.
00:21:40.03:
00:21:40.03:There isn't.|There isn't anyone.
00:21:43.01:
00:22:27.01:Because this is a Third World country...
00:22:29.07:
00:22:29.07:And because of the weak economy...|because we are not developed,
00:22:34.05:
00:22:36.01:there never used to be drinking water.|So people made wells of their own.
00:22:40.07:
00:22:40.07:But, as time has passed, a water supply has|started to arrive in these rural communities.
00:22:48.05:
00:22:49.00:As a result, these wells have been abandoned.
00:22:53.06:
00:22:54.00:But, the problem is that they are not being sealed.
00:22:58.01:
00:22:58.01:And these wells are deep.|We're talking 20, 25|50, 70 metres.
00:23:01.08:
00:23:01.08:But, they're out of use.
00:23:03.06:
00:23:03.06:So they've become places the delinquents can|dump their victims. They use the wells as mass graves.
00:23:10.00:
00:23:12.06:This is my...
00:23:14.05:
00:23:15.00:This is my...
00:23:16.03:
00:23:16.03:my tent, where I keep my kit.
00:23:19.03:
00:23:19.03:The generator, all my kit.
00:23:22.03:
00:23:22.03:This is the logo of my department.|The one we designed. This is my unit.
00:23:28.04:
00:23:29.00:As you can see, archaeology, criminology.
00:23:31.08:
00:23:33.05:Both are fused together. Criminology,|as you can see, with a fingerprint. Ballistics.
00:23:39.00:
00:23:39.00:Archaeology.
00:23:40.08:
00:23:40.08:All focusing on justice.
00:23:44.05:
00:23:44.07:And, of course, the Attorney General, the FGR.
00:23:49.04:
00:23:49.05:And here is the work of art, this is the well.
00:23:53.04:
00:23:54.01:It's dangerous here. You can't walk too close to|the edge because you could fall and...
00:23:58.08:
00:23:59.07:kill yourself.
00:24:02.00:
00:24:02.00:Like I say, I'm a criminologist. I'm a systems|engineer, but as you see|this is civil engineering.
00:24:08.08:
00:24:08.08:I've made these two ledges in my design,
00:24:11.07:
00:24:11.07:I've made these ledges and...
00:24:14.01:
00:24:14.01:the slopes are not at 90 degrees,|to prevent a landslide.
00:24:18.03:
00:24:22.03:I believe that this is the biggest|excavation in Latin America.
00:24:27.03:
00:24:27.05:I have never seen this type of excavation anywhere|in the world to recover bodies.
00:24:32.04:
00:24:34.04:Or as a crime scene.
00:24:37.00:
00:24:39.06:This was a farm with a lot of trees,|and this well, which was already abandoned.
00:24:45.03:
00:24:45.03:It's a well that hasn't been used in 20 years.
00:24:49.03:
00:24:50.00:Because of the privacy and the vegetation...
00:24:54.01:
00:24:54.06:the subjects would bring their victims here,|and murder them.
00:24:58.04:
00:24:58.04:And sometimes they would bring them|already dead. They'd throw them in the well.
00:25:03.00:
00:25:03.00:There are 15 or 20 mothers that are...
00:25:06.03:
00:25:06.08:Maybe people nearby,|waiting for us to find their relatives,
00:25:11.02:
00:25:11.06:with the hope that the District Attorney and|the police can find their loved ones.
00:25:16.02:
00:25:16.02:Well, you'll see when we get to the bottom,|that there will be people decapitated, dismembered.
00:25:21.01:
00:25:22.00:If there are women, we find them with|objects inserted into their vaginas.
00:25:25.06:
00:25:32.06:For about how long has it been buried?
00:25:35.03:
00:25:35.03:Eh?
00:25:36.02:
00:25:36.02:For about how long has it been buried?|So I know whether to take my biosecurity kit.
00:25:42.03:
00:25:42.07:Well, Engineer, I don't have that information.
00:25:46.08:
00:25:46.08:They just say that they have information that...
00:25:51.05:
00:25:51.05:some guys belonging to MS-13...
00:25:56.00:
00:25:57.04:killed someone.
00:26:00.01:
00:26:00.01:They don't say anything more. Just that.
00:26:03.02:
00:26:03.06:Ok, let's do the following.
00:26:06.01:
00:26:06.01:Get the Attorney to start coordinating...
00:26:09.02:
00:26:10.04:the team who will help me so that|we can do it in one day.
00:26:14.04:
00:26:14.04:If it's a recent body, we'll get it out in one day, ok?
00:26:17.04:
00:26:17.06:Yes.
00:26:18.07:
00:26:18.07:Apparently it is a recent body.
00:26:21.07:
00:26:21.07:It's recent?
00:26:23.02:
00:26:23.06:Ok.
00:26:24.03:
00:26:24.06:Ok, in that case call me at around 2pm.
00:26:27.06:
00:26:27.08:Ok.
00:26:28.04:
00:26:28.04:I'll be at the other crime scene and I can tell you|if I'll be there tomorrow or the day after, ok?
00:26:32.07:
00:26:32.07:Ok, Engineer.
00:26:34.01:
00:26:34.01:Ok then, take care.
00:26:35.04:
00:26:55.06:They call me from the Attorney's office. The boss|calls me and says, 'Ticas|how are we doing?'
00:26:59.00:
00:26:59.00:The same. 'But didn't you say|that..?' But I can't...
00:27:02.06:
00:27:02.07:But look, Engineer, what was the|problem from... from the beginning?
00:27:07.06:
00:27:07.07:I know. The problem was the Attorney's.|The negligence of the Attorney. That's why I...
00:27:11.05:
00:27:11.05:It was the fault of the Attorney's Office.
00:27:14.02:
00:27:14.08:We had problems with the trucks.|The digger wasn't working for 5 weeks.
00:27:18.04:
00:27:18.04:Look, this is why I tell you, look...|I find myself between a rock and a hard place,
00:27:23.01:
00:27:23.01:I don't have a problem with you guys.
00:27:26.00:
00:27:26.00:This is the first time I call you for a meeting like this,
00:27:29.03:
00:27:30.01:not to...
00:27:32.01:
00:27:32.01:to nag you, quite the opposite,|to ask you to help me out.
00:27:36.01:
00:27:36.01:I won't be able to be around.
00:27:37.08:
00:27:37.08:This is very difficult guys,|and sometimes it's disappointing.
00:27:40.07:
00:27:40.07:Sometimes I get frustrated.
00:27:42.03:
00:27:42.03:But, when you think about the 20 mothers|waiting for the bodies down there,
00:27:46.07:
00:27:46.07:that's when you get motivated. So help me|out guys, let's not just do it for the work
00:27:52.02:
00:27:52.02:but also a little bit for the human side of|things. Let's work to get those bodies out.
00:27:57.02:
00:27:57.02:And listen, this will make history. I'm not|joking. You are making history with your work.
00:28:02.05:
00:28:02.05:This is the biggest excavation in Latin|America. And we will get those bodies out.
00:28:08.00:
00:28:08.05:I tell you, don't wait for my thanks, but for the|gratitude of the 20 mothers who...
00:28:13.08:
00:28:14.08:who have their children in there.|Also, we will save many lives doing this.
00:28:19.04:
00:28:19.04:Because if we don't get those bodies out...
00:28:21.07:
00:28:21.07:Look, it's no joke, 42 men will go free.
00:28:24.03:
00:28:44.03:Ok, what happened was that I had to tell the|guys that I can't be here much...
00:28:48.08:
00:28:48.08:because of my workload.
00:28:51.02:
00:28:51.02:I have 2 bodies at 2 crime scenes right now.
00:28:54.08:
00:28:54.08:I'm not going to be able to come here this week.
00:28:58.02:
00:28:58.06:So I told them, it's not a scolding...
00:29:01.05:
00:29:01.05:Instead I asked for help.
00:29:03.08:
00:29:03.08:I'm not leaving them homework, like I said.
00:29:06.04:
00:29:06.04:I just want them to dig the shapes we need,|so that the trucks can go down.
00:29:11.05:
00:29:11.05:Even when it's raining, because that|stops them from working.
00:29:15.07:
00:29:15.07:So I need them to work on the entrance first,|so that they can go down even if it rains.
00:29:20.08:
00:29:21.03:So as you can see, after the meeting, they all went to work.|If I hadn't come, they wouldn't have worked all day.
00:29:30.05:
00:29:30.06:And now let's cut because I need to go to the other|crime scene. Let's go 'cause they're waiting for us.
00:29:36.07:
00:29:38.03:What a great exit!
00:29:40.01:
00:29:48.07:How's it going?
00:29:49.07:
00:29:52.04:Hey, how's it going?
00:29:54.00:
00:29:56.03:I have found that here, in my country,
00:29:59.07:
00:29:59.07:that if a person goes missing|and is not found within 8 days,
00:30:03.08:
00:30:04.04:in the place where they were|killed and dumped,
00:30:07.01:
00:30:07.01:like in a field, at the side of the road, in a bag or|whatever, then that person is underground.
00:30:11.02:
00:30:12.00:Many mothers call me.
00:30:14.02:
00:30:15.04:And when they say to me, 'Engineer, apart from God,
00:30:21.07:
00:30:23.01:you're the only person I trust to find my child,'
00:30:25.08:
00:30:26.06:this gives me a huge responsibility
00:30:28.08:
00:30:29.00:towards them.
00:30:30.04:
00:30:30.05:More families will come looking for victims,|and over there is where I'd like you to be ready
00:30:36.06:
00:30:36.06:to take care of the 'victims in crisis', as you call them.|They're in crisis, as you guys say in psychology.
00:30:41.07:
00:30:42.06:So you need to be ready over there where Ame is,
00:30:45.04:
00:30:45.04:because relatives will come.
00:30:47.05:
00:30:47.05:When you see someone crying or feeling bad,|that's when you kick into action.
00:30:53.07:
00:30:54.01:Ok?
00:30:55.00:
00:31:08.06:This is the Virgin of Guadalupe.|She's taking care of him.
00:31:12.05:
00:31:13.05:Since the moment he disappeared,
00:31:16.04:
00:31:16.04:I have asked the Virgin...
00:31:19.03:
00:31:20.04:to take care of him.
00:31:21.08:
00:31:22.04:Wherever he is.
00:31:24.08:
00:31:24.08:This is him when he was...
00:31:27.05:
00:31:28.07:six months old.
00:31:30.08:
00:31:31.01:Here he was 6. He's with his two sisters.
00:31:33.07:
00:31:35.02:And this is what he looks like now,|before he disappeared.
00:31:39.03:
00:31:40.01:I put...
00:31:41.02:
00:31:41.05:I put flowers here whenever I can.
00:31:44.05:
00:31:44.05:I light a candle and keep an altar for him...
00:31:48.03:
00:31:48.05:with the Virgin so that she takes care of him.
00:31:51.00:
00:31:59.03:These are my grandson's clothes,
00:32:01.05:
00:32:01.05:I have hope that he'll come back,
00:32:04.02:
00:32:04.02:and find his things where they belong.
00:32:07.02:
00:32:08.00:The box that he liked.
00:32:10.03:
00:32:10.03:He liked to collect boxes.
00:32:12.06:
00:32:34.02:He is Eddy, Eddy Antony. My grandson.
00:32:38.03:
00:32:39.02:I can hardly speak.
00:32:42.02:
00:32:44.04:He is my grandson. He was 17.
00:32:48.06:
00:32:49.04:One day he left,
00:32:52.05:
00:32:53.01:and he never came back.
00:32:55.05:
00:33:07.07:It was a Saturday morning. They called him at 8.
00:33:12.02:
00:33:12.02:A friend apparently invited him to a party.
00:33:16.04:
00:33:17.01:They agreed to meet in the centre,
00:33:21.04:
00:33:22.03:in the main square.
00:33:24.08:
00:33:26.00:They agreed to meet.
00:33:28.01:
00:33:28.06:He was still sleeping at 8am.
00:33:32.04:
00:33:32.08:So 'Ok,' he said, 'I'm gonna shower and get ready.'
00:33:38.02:
00:33:38.02:He left without breakfast.
00:33:41.00:
00:33:48.02:I come to these places asking God that my grandson|will turn up. That he's not gonna be the one buried here.
00:33:55.03:
00:33:55.08:But I always come to places like this...
00:34:00.00:
00:34:00.06:where the Engineer is working,
00:34:03.06:
00:34:04.02:where they tell me they found bones.
00:34:07.06:
00:34:07.06:But when you come to a place like this and realise|that the authorities don't care...
00:34:13.06:
00:34:13.06:it hurts.
00:34:16.01:
00:34:17.04:It's like they don't realise it's another human being...
00:34:20.06:
00:34:20.06:that something has happened to.
00:34:22.07:
00:34:23.04:How are you?
00:34:24.06:
00:34:24.06:Well. And you?
00:34:26.00:
00:34:26.00:Continuing the fight.
00:34:27.06:
00:34:27.06:How are you, nice to meet you.
00:34:30.03:
00:34:31.03:What's going on? What do you have for me?|Let's go over here.
00:34:34.07:
00:34:34.07:There is another mother over there that|wants to talk to you, Engineer.
00:34:38.04:
00:34:39.03:Yours has been missing for less than a year, right?
00:34:41.04:
00:34:41.04:It'll be a year on the 28th August.
00:34:43.06:
00:34:44.03:Ok, and yours?
00:34:46.05:
00:34:46.05:It'll be a year on Saturday.
00:34:48.01:
00:34:48.03:This coming Saturday.
00:34:49.05:
00:34:49.06:Missing for a year?
00:34:51.06:
00:34:52.01:I don't know who else to ask for help.
00:34:55.00:
00:34:55.00:Yes, my dear.
00:34:56.01:
00:34:56.07:Ok.
00:34:57.06:
00:34:59.01:Ok, let me help you.
00:35:02.02:
00:35:02.04:It's possible that we could find 2 missing people|here. Yours and hers, as they disappeared around...
00:35:08.04:
00:35:09.05:the same time.
00:35:10.07:
00:35:10.07:Because one of the bodies in here|disappeared around that time too.
00:35:16.04:
00:35:17.02:Almost a year ago, because the|body was still fleshy when I saw it.
00:35:22.01:
00:35:22.01:Listen, I'm gonna do|something to help you.
00:35:26.06:
00:35:26.06:I'm gonna talk to the District Attorney here,
00:35:29.01:
00:35:29.01:who is the boss of the prosecutor, who you say|doesn't want to help you.
00:35:33.08:
00:35:35.02:Yes, I went to talk to him. But he didn't know|anything about the case. He was new.
00:35:41.02:
00:35:41.02:He said he'd look into it and get back|to me after the holidays.
00:35:46.03:
00:35:46.03:I always say that people don't pay attention|until they lose a relative themselves. Until they feel pain.
00:35:54.06:
00:35:54.06:The relatives are the only ones in this.
00:35:59.03:
00:36:00.05:And you have rights.|I say you have rights.
00:36:04.02:
00:36:04.02:If only there were|more people like you.
00:36:07.03:
00:36:07.03:Oh, my dear.
00:36:09.02:
00:36:09.07:I go to one place, I go to another,|and nobody listens to me.
00:36:13.08:
00:36:14.00:Only he pays attention to us.
00:36:17.07:
00:36:18.05:God willing, I will find them.
00:36:20.05:
00:36:24.07:Hopefully, they are here and I'll get them out.
00:36:28.04:
00:36:28.06:Even if it's just the body...
00:36:32.04:
00:36:32.08:so that I can bury him.
00:36:35.04:
00:36:36.04:I know. There are more than a thousand people like you.
00:36:41.06:
00:36:41.06:Mothers...
00:36:43.04:
00:36:43.04:There is one woman who after 2 years,|still calls me.
00:36:48.02:
00:36:49.04:She had 2 sons.
00:36:52.06:
00:36:53.03:One was 21 and they killed him for not|paying... I don't know what.
00:36:57.05:
00:36:58.00:But every night, she still sets 2 places for dinner|and the other son says, 'Mum|why do you set 2?'
00:37:04.00:
00:37:04.00:'I have hope that my son will come back to|eat, ' she says. Imagine. These are things that...
00:37:09.05:
00:37:09.05:That's how I am. I always get up early and say I'm|gonna tidy up because Antony is coming back.
00:37:16.05:
00:37:19.07:God willing, we'll find him.
00:37:22.04:
00:37:25.05:How can they be like that, knowing that|there are human remains there, and not get them out?
00:37:31.07:
00:37:32.01:I ask God that this|ends soon.
00:37:35.07:
00:37:36.01:With the country like this...
00:37:39.02:
00:37:39.05:At least if you find the remains.
00:37:43.02:
00:37:44.00:It hurts me to say, 'At least I'm giving them the|remains.' I wish they were alive, but...
00:37:50.00:
00:37:50.00:my job is to recover bodies.
00:37:54.06:
00:37:55.02:I ask God that even if he's not alive,|at least he's returned dead.
00:38:00.08:
00:38:00.08:To stop that uncertainty right? Not knowing if he's|dead or alive, or if he's suffering or not.
00:38:07.03:
00:38:07.03:But, God willing.
00:38:09.04:
00:38:11.03:I'm sorry.
00:38:12.03:
00:38:12.03:No, no. There's nothing to be sorry about.|Be brave, and God willing|we'll find him.
00:38:17.02:
00:38:17.02:Let me work on this with the Attorney.
00:38:21.02:
00:38:21.02:If they don't want to, then I will see what I can do to...
00:38:26.04:
00:38:26.04:No, it's not raining.
00:38:28.06:
00:38:28.06:I'm worried because the site could flood.
00:38:30.06:
00:38:30.06:We're gonna look for your sons|and God willing, we'll find them.
00:38:35.04:
00:38:35.04:Ok, I'm going to keep on working. Take care.
00:38:37.06:
00:38:37.06:Thank you, Engineer.
00:38:38.08:
00:38:38.08:Ok, come by on Thursday. The bodies will be ready then.
00:38:41.07:
00:38:41.07:At this time right?
00:38:43.00:
00:38:43.00:Yes, at this time.
00:38:44.01:
00:38:44.01:I'm the one that nags you by telephone!
00:38:46.00:
00:38:46.00:Yes!
00:38:46.07:
00:38:46.07:Thank you, Engineer.
00:38:47.08:
00:38:47.08:Ok, take care.
00:38:49.04:
00:38:50.00:I've been everywhere and nowhere.|I've put up posters,
00:38:55.05:
00:38:56.01:flyers all over Santa Ana and outside in other regions.
00:39:00.03:
00:39:02.01:But with no response.
00:39:04.08:
00:39:08.05:My hope is to find him alive.
00:39:12.07:
00:39:12.07:I dream that he...
00:39:14.08:
00:39:15.07:I dream every night that he comes home
00:39:18.08:
00:39:18.08:and we have a party.
00:39:21.04:
00:39:22.04:And that everyone is waiting for him.
00:39:26.07:
00:39:26.07:But if God,
00:39:29.06:
00:39:30.05:if God decided something else|when he walked out the door,
00:39:35.03:
00:39:35.03:at least I'd like the body to be able to bury him|and stop searching and asking on the streets.
00:39:41.00:
00:39:51.04:Tell me, analyse me,
00:39:54.03:
00:39:54.03:why instead of being with my family at the beach, or|in a hammock, I'm working with dead people?
00:40:00.01:
00:40:00.01:They say that I'm crazy.
00:40:03.00:
00:40:03.00:But, I'll tell you what I tell everyone.|Maybe I am crazy, but I'm good crazy.
00:40:07.05:
00:40:07.05:I use my eccentricities to do good.
00:40:11.03:
00:40:11.05:I get bored here in the office.
00:40:13.05:
00:40:13.05:When I'm here, I feel that...
00:40:17.00:
00:40:17.07:It's something... Well, this is why I've decorated|it like this, so I don't lose my purpose for...
00:40:23.02:
00:40:23.02:the bodies, the dead people, those who need me.
00:40:27.07:
00:40:27.07:Here, I get bored. When I'm working, no.|As you can see, I've covered my wall with pictures.
00:40:33.03:
00:40:33.03:I have celebrated my birthday at the graves.|I sometimes even eat there.
00:40:36.07:
00:40:36.07:I have breakfast there. That's where|I take my break. For me, the dead...
00:40:41.03:
00:40:41.03:are company. They're my daily routine.|They're my friends. They're the ones who need me.
00:40:46.03:
00:40:51.08:For me, this is a university.
00:40:55.08:
00:40:56.06:As you can see, I have pictures of bodies|decomposing. Some show human saponification.
00:41:02.07:
00:41:02.07:When they get hot, insects are able to lay|eggs in them and maggots grow.
00:41:08.02:
00:41:08.02:What else can I tell you? This doesn't scare me.|I sleep here. My bed is there.
00:41:12.08:
00:41:13.03:As you can see, I have bones,|human remains,
00:41:17.03:
00:41:18.04:I have photos that people find macabre.|But not for me. For me, it's natural.
00:41:23.06:
00:41:23.06:And it's a work of art. That's how dead peple are.
00:41:26.06:
00:41:26.06:This is how death is. It's a work of art.
00:41:29.08:
00:41:41.05:I have never encountered a body|so mutilated.
00:41:43.08:
00:41:43.08:It was like minced meat, as we say in El Salvador.
00:41:48.03:
00:41:48.07:The face was destroyed, there was no brain.
00:41:51.06:
00:41:51.06:It was really strange, Jonny.
00:41:53.04:
00:41:54.01:It was only 8 days old and didn't have a brain.
00:41:57.08:
00:41:58.00:That's what 18 Street do. They take the heart|and the brain for satanic rituals.
00:42:05.02:
00:42:09.00:It was strange. And it was really contaminated.
00:42:12.05:
00:42:21.06:Apparently, there's a truce right now between|the main gangs, MS-13 and 18 Street.
00:42:27.07:
00:42:28.06:But here in regions north of San Salvador,|we have noticed another phenomenon.
00:42:34.05:
00:42:35.01:Murders dropped between|March, April and May...
00:42:41.02:
00:42:41.07:by 70-80%.
00:42:46.01:
00:42:46.06:We used to have 30, 35 or 40 murders in a month.
00:42:51.07:
00:42:51.07:They went down to 5.
00:42:53.08:
00:42:53.08:On the other hand, disappearances have increased.
00:42:59.03:
00:43:01.07:So we're talking about a smokescreen.
00:43:04.07:
00:43:05.01:They're hiding behind a smokescreen.
00:43:07.05:
00:43:07.05:Their actions haven't changed.
00:43:10.01:
00:43:10.01:Supposedly, it's calmer now.|But this could just be a time bomb.
00:43:17.01:
00:43:18.06:Hey, Ticas!
00:43:19.07:
00:43:22.00:They're asking me how long I've known you.|I said we go back to the war.
00:43:28.01:
00:43:29.02:We suffered...
00:43:31.01:
00:43:31.01:We were in the police force together during|the civil war here in El Salvador.
00:43:36.04:
00:43:38.02:Yes, very good. And we know our job well.
00:43:41.07:
00:43:41.07:And ever since then,
00:43:43.02:
00:43:43.06:it's been Jonny and Ticas
00:43:46.01:
00:43:46.03:together in the police.
00:43:49.02:
00:43:49.02:We were founding officers of the police force.
00:43:52.00:
00:45:32.07:Where's the pistol?
00:45:34.00:
00:45:34.00:I don't have a pistol.
00:45:35.01:
00:45:35.01:Where's the pistol?
00:45:36.01:
00:45:36.01:I don't have a pistol.
00:45:37.02:
00:45:37.02:Where's the pistol?
00:45:38.00:
00:45:38.00:I don't have one.
00:45:39.01:
00:45:39.01:Come on, Smiley, where's the pistol?
00:45:41.01:
00:45:41.01:Look. Ask everyone here. They always|arrest me and I never have anything.
00:45:45.02:
00:46:05.00:Celebrating 100 days of peace for a better El Salvador.
00:46:08.01:
00:46:10.07:I can tell you that we... that we're willing to show with our|actions, what we want for the people of El Salvador.
00:46:19.01:
00:46:41.01:The truce has become the most important event|in this country for the past 20 years.
00:46:53.07:
00:47:04.03:Thank you for allowing us to hug our children again,
00:47:08.02:
00:47:09.02:to kiss our wives again,
00:47:11.06:
00:47:12.04:to enjoy the care of our mothers again.
00:47:16.00:
00:47:17.01:Thank you for doing everything in your power|to help those of us who were sick.
00:47:25.04:
00:47:27.01:On the streets, we don't see any benefit.
00:47:31.02:
00:47:31.02:I'm gonna be honest here, I never|agreed with the truce in the first place...
00:47:39.04:
00:47:39.04:because they got the benefits.
00:47:42.01:
00:47:43.03:So I tell you this, it's just a smokescreen.
00:47:46.05:
00:47:46.05:Even the system knows it. And if they can't see it|like I have seen it, then they're being more than stupid.
00:47:54.04:
00:47:54.08:Here, there can't be blatant deaths|on the streets right now.
00:48:02.07:
00:48:03.02:But today, the gang is a lot more advanced than that.
00:48:06.05:
00:48:06.08:They say truce, so I kill a fucker and bury him.|And because there is no body, there is no evidence.
00:48:11.08:
00:48:11.08:And with no evidence, there is no crime. Who will accuse|us if there is nothing they can pin on us? Nobody.
00:48:17.03:
00:48:18.02:The system might say there's no murders, but go look at the|District Attorney's Office, there's a fuck load of disappeared.
00:48:23.04:
00:48:41.01:I have found different modus operandi in each region.
00:48:45.00:
00:48:45.04:I can tell you about some of them that made my jaw drop.
00:48:50.04:
00:48:51.04:Just like there's imagination|and creativity for good,
00:48:54.02:
00:48:54.05:there is imagination|and creativity for evil.
00:48:57.05:
00:48:58.03:One of them involved a tourniquet...
00:49:01.07:
00:49:02.06:made with barbed wire.
00:49:05.05:
00:49:06.04:They put it around the victim's neck|and took turns to tighten it.
00:49:14.00:
00:49:14.08:There were 15 of them. Each one took part.
00:49:18.03:
00:49:18.03:Why?
00:49:20.00:
00:49:21.02:Because if only 1 of them did,|only that person would have committed murder.
00:49:24.06:
00:49:24.06:If they all do it,
00:49:26.00:
00:49:26.00:they have all committed murder.
00:49:28.02:
00:49:28.02:Also, I found a young brother and sister.
00:49:31.01:
00:49:31.01:They had been kidnapped and murdered.
00:49:34.03:
00:49:34.08:I can tell you many stories like this, they're heart-wrenching.
00:49:38.07:
00:49:38.07:The 8-year-old sister gave her body|so they wouldn't kill her 5-year-old brother.
00:49:44.04:
00:49:44.06:15 individuals raped her on the promise|that they wouldn't kill her little brother.
00:49:49.05:
00:49:49.05:But they shot the boy,|and they shot her.
00:49:52.07:
00:49:53.00:She,
00:49:54.04:
00:49:54.06:she knelt, and begged for her life. But they|shot her in the head anyway, and buried them both.
00:50:02.03:
00:50:02.03:I recovered their bodies.
00:50:04.05:
00:50:05.04:I've found cases that are|worse than horror films.
00:50:11.04:
00:50:13.06:Freddy Kruger or Jason are nothing compared|to the reality of what we're living through in this country.
00:50:23.02:
00:50:28.06:I'm 19. I'm helping the police because they can protect me.
00:50:34.08:
00:50:36.01:I help them, they help me.
00:50:39.04:
00:50:40.02:I'm a member of 18 Street. It might look bad that I'm|in the witness protection programme, that I'm a snitch...
00:50:47.06:
00:50:47.06:But that's wrong, I'm none of those things.|I am simply a collaborator for the system.
00:50:52.06:
00:50:52.06:How's it going?
00:50:53.06:
00:50:53.06:Ok.
00:50:54.04:
00:50:54.08:Show him.
00:50:56.03:
00:50:56.08:I wanna see.
00:50:58.03:
00:51:02.07:There's fine.
00:51:04.06:
00:51:06.02:18.
00:51:07.06:
00:51:10.01:They want to teach you how to play football,|Ticas. They're gonna ask you to play.
00:51:13.01:
00:51:13.01:I'm gonna play on Friday.
00:51:14.04:
00:51:14.08:Come prepared, because we'll have a party too.
00:51:17.07:
00:51:17.07:We're gonna play.
00:51:19.05:
00:51:20.00:And after, we'll go swimming.
00:51:23.06:
00:51:23.06:He wants to film when we play against the police.
00:51:28.04:
00:51:28.04:I won't play because you will use me as the ball!
00:51:32.00:
00:51:32.07:He can play spinning top, he likes that.
00:51:35.04:
00:51:36.04:He likes the cup and ball game.
00:51:38.05:
00:51:38.05:When are we going to the new graves?
00:51:41.05:
00:51:42.00:This one we'll finish today. We're|already close to the bottom.
00:51:46.03:
00:51:46.03:We're now working on the admin.
00:51:49.07:
00:51:50.01:When that's done,
00:51:52.08:
00:51:53.06:we can get to work at the site.
00:51:57.07:
00:52:12.07:I just want to ask you 3 questions.
00:52:15.05:
00:52:16.04:In psychology, a serial killer|is someone who kills 2 or more people.
00:52:23.06:
00:52:23.06:After 2 people, that person is already a serial killer...
00:52:26.04:
00:52:26.04:No, man, in my view, a serial killer is someone|who has 50 skulls under their belt.
00:52:31.06:
00:52:31.06:I don't consider myself a serial killer and|I haven't killed just 2 or 3. I'm in the 20s.
00:52:39.03:
00:52:40.02:And I don't consider myself a serial killer.|In my view, a serial killer is someone with 60 or more.
00:52:47.03:
00:52:47.08:That's a serial killer.
00:52:49.04:
00:52:49.08:And what do you guys say about Engineer Ticas?
00:52:53.04:
00:52:53.05:That he's sticking his nose in where it doesn't belong.|I'm just being honest. Sorry if I offended you.
00:53:00.00:
00:53:00.02:No, no. What do they say when they see me in the news?
00:53:03.08:
00:53:04.02:'There's that old nosey fucker!' No offence.
00:53:07.08:
00:53:08.06:No, that's ok. We are talking about reality here.
00:53:12.01:
00:53:12.01:But have you ever heard them say they|want to bury me, or something like that?
00:53:17.00:
00:53:17.03:No, but if they had the opportunity to capture you, they'd put|you underground and wait to see if your colleagues dig you out.
00:53:25.01:
00:53:25.01:I'm just being honest.
00:53:26.08:
00:53:26.08:No, that's fine.
00:53:28.07:
00:53:29.07:The first time they sent me to kill, the victim was 30,|and a member of MS-13.
00:53:36.07:
00:53:36.07:I was 12 when I killed him.
00:53:39.04:
00:53:39.04:I was scared the first time I killed someone.|But the second time, I liked it.
00:53:46.08:
00:53:46.08:The third time, I liked it. From then on, it was like|I had to kill to be at peace with myself.
00:53:54.06:
00:53:55.03:I used to get anxious if I wasn't killing.|It's like how you use marijuana to feel at peace.
00:54:03.02:
00:54:03.07:To be a part of the gang, you need to first hang|out with them and run errands.
00:54:15.00:
00:54:15.03:That way, you earn their trust.
00:54:18.07:
00:54:19.02:But to join, you have to carry out the missions they give|you. A mission is killing a member of the opposite gang.
00:54:32.01:
00:54:32.06:I'm an 18 Street, so I had to kill an MS-13.
00:54:37.04:
00:54:38.06:After 2 or 3 missions, they give you the pass.|A pass then means you get beaten up by 4 guys.
00:54:47.08:
00:54:47.08:This is the initiation.
00:54:49.07:
00:54:52.05:So after 18 seconds of taking a beating|on the floor, they give you a nickname.
00:55:05.02:
00:55:05.02:That's how you'll be known in the gang.|It could be 'The Stranger', 'The Strig'|'The Crazy',
00:55:10.07:
00:55:10.07:depending on the rank you have on the street.
00:55:13.06:
00:55:14.03:Then you earn the numbers.
00:55:17.05:
00:55:18.02:Each number is|one less MS-13 member.
00:55:23.05:
00:55:24.01:These here too.
00:55:25.08:
00:55:26.06:So each time you've killed someone...
00:55:28.04:
00:55:28.04:So each tattoo I have is|an opposite gang member I've killed.
00:55:36.02:
00:55:36.02:Each tattoo, from the smallest to the biggest.
00:55:40.08:
00:55:43.04:And how many do you have in total?
00:55:45.08:
00:55:45.08:I have 20. That's 20 MS-13 guys under my belt.|There are more, but their rank doesn't count.
00:55:58.06:
00:55:59.03:I'm talking of 20|MS-13 heavyweights.
00:56:04.06:
00:56:04.07:The kids who don't count are rookies. They haven't done|anything yet. They haven't killed gangsters like me.
00:56:13.08:
00:56:21.01:Now that we have finished here,
00:56:23.02:
00:56:23.02:I'm going to the next cemetery...
00:56:25.03:
00:56:25.03:to start a new project.
00:56:27.04:
00:56:27.08:Here, we recovered two people. At the next project,
00:56:32.04:
00:56:32.07:there's an 80% chance that we|will recover 19 corpses.
00:56:38.06:
00:56:39.00:From here,
00:56:40.02:
00:56:41.04:that's where I'm going.
00:56:43.00:
00:56:46.07:What's this?|The sternum.
00:56:49.02:
00:56:50.01:We're gonna bag this up.
00:56:53.00:
00:56:56.08:We need this for DNA, right?
00:56:59.06:
00:57:07.04:It's not my grandson.
00:57:09.07:
00:57:09.07:So I'm gonna keep on searching for him...
00:57:11.08:
00:57:11.08:in the hope that he turns|up somewhere alive.
00:57:15.08:
00:57:24.07:God willing, I'll find him...
00:57:27.06:
00:57:28.01:either alive,
00:57:30.02:
00:57:31.02:or if God has other plans, dead.
00:57:34.04:
00:57:34.04:I wish I could have closure.
00:57:39.03:
00:57:40.01:I just want to find him...
00:57:42.05:
00:57:44.03:and stop searching for him.
00:57:47.05:
00:57:50.06:I wish that he would turn up alive, in the USA maybe.|Perhaps he fled there with friends.
00:57:58.07:
00:57:58.07:Sometimes people go there illegally.
00:58:02.04:
00:58:03.03:But he's a kid who was brought up close to the family,|so it's difficult to believe that he left just like that.
00:58:12.02:
00:58:12.06:I provide for him with food and clothes so|it's impossible to believe he would cross the border.
00:58:20.08:
00:58:22.05:Sometimes I reach the conclusion that he's been hurt,|that maybe they've killed him, but I don't know why.
00:58:30.00:
00:58:31.05:He wasn't a street kid. He wasn't a gangster.|He wasn't involved in anything.
00:58:36.06:
00:58:49.08:All the evidence that I find, the clothes, the socks, the|trousers, a bracelet... If it's a woman|earrings... or the teeth.
00:58:58.03:
00:58:58.03:I take all of this and put it on Facebook and on|Twitter. I appeal for those who have lost relatives,
00:59:07.05:
00:59:07.05:I give information on the date, the body, the|type of clothing, but I'm not getting results
00:59:15.00:
00:59:15.00:because not everybody has access to Facebook.
00:59:17.07:
00:59:18.02:So I need something much better...
00:59:21.03:
00:59:21.03:because it's a huge problem, the fact there's|no centralised system for missing people.
00:59:28.02:
00:59:28.02:Something big has happened|between the gangs recently?
00:59:31.08:
00:59:32.07:Listen! You're gonna get the|same I give everyone else!
00:59:36.08:
00:59:36.08:I don't really comment on this topic.|It wouldn't be wise.
00:59:40.02:
00:59:40.02:Because I work alone. Because there are|gangsters in my neighbourhood.
00:59:44.06:
00:59:44.06:Because if I talk about this,|they will kill me.
00:59:48.06:
00:59:49.02:Also, it's none of my business.|Also, I don't believe it.
00:59:54.01:
00:59:54.07:And another thing, my experience is exactly the|opposite of what they say is happening.
01:00:01.01:
01:00:01.06:For me, it's a show. And nothing more.
01:00:06.00:
01:00:06.00:Somebody wanted to become|famous, and they did.
01:00:10.04:
01:00:10.04:There's a priest, who's become famous,|and a former Deputy too.
01:00:16.02:
01:00:16.06:But I'm still recovering dead bodies.
01:00:20.02:
01:00:20.02:And recent ones at that.
01:00:22.06:
01:00:26.01:Are we here?
01:00:27.01:
01:00:27.01:We're here.
01:00:28.02:
01:00:33.07:My helmet.
01:00:35.06:
01:00:45.02:It's very difficult.
01:00:46.02:
01:00:46.06:But hopefully, one day, God willing.
01:00:48.05:
01:00:48.05:God willing, my dear. God willing.
01:00:49.08:
01:00:49.08:Even though it's been a while, we'll find him, right?
01:00:53.02:
01:00:53.02:Yes, God willing, my dear.
01:00:54.07:
01:00:55.02:It's hard.
01:00:56.02:
01:00:56.06:I know. But don't be sad.|It's not good for you.
01:01:00.08:
01:01:01.04:Yes.
01:01:02.07:
01:01:02.08:Don't be sad.
01:01:04.04:
01:01:04.04:God willing, we'll find him.
01:01:06.07:
01:01:06.07:Yes.
01:01:07.08:
01:01:08.02:Some day, God willing.
01:01:09.06:
01:01:10.04:Yes, my dear.
01:01:11.06:
01:01:11.06:Ok then, God bless you, Engineer.
01:01:14.01:
01:01:14.02:Thank you, my dear.
01:01:15.08:
01:01:18.04:Poor woman.
01:01:19.08:
01:01:19.08:Now, now, dear.
01:01:22.04:
01:01:31.03:Ok, dear. Ok.
01:01:33.06:
01:01:37.06:God willing, we will find him.
01:01:40.06:
01:01:45.04:Take care of yourself.
01:01:47.03:
01:01:47.03:Yes, Engineer.
01:01:49.02:
01:01:49.02:If anything comes up, let me know.
01:01:51.06:
01:01:52.01:Yes, I'll call you.
01:01:53.03:
01:01:53.03:Ok.
01:01:54.00:
01:01:54.03:Thank you.
01:01:55.03:
01:01:55.03:Ok. 'Bye. Thank you.
01:01:57.01:
01:01:57.01:'Bye.
01:01:57.06:
01:01:58.00:'Bye.
01:01:59.00:
01:02:07.08:Poor woman.
01:02:10.01:
01:02:11.02:Everytime she calls me, she cries.
01:02:14.00:
01:02:14.08:She had two sons.
01:02:16.08:
01:02:17.08:The one she's talking about is the youngest,|the other one is a lawyer.
01:02:22.02:
01:02:22.04:She always sets two places for dinner because she|says that she has faith that the youngest will turn up.
01:02:29.08:
01:02:47.06:The bulb's gone.
01:02:49.00:
01:02:49.04:The bulb's gone.
01:02:50.04:
01:02:50.04:Can we do it with one?
01:02:51.08:
01:02:53.00:It's too dark.
01:02:54.03:
01:03:07.02:I don't fear the people|who believe in me.
01:03:09.08:
01:03:09.08:I fear those who think|I'm causing them harm...
01:03:13.02:
01:03:13.02:and who see me as their enemy.
01:03:14.07:
01:03:18.05:If I analyse the situation,
01:03:21.06:
01:03:21.06:if I am not careful, and I|stay with my arms folded
01:03:24.02:
01:03:24.02:they could hurt me, and I wouldn't be able|to help the people who need me.
01:03:28.05:
01:03:28.05:And, as you heard before, they could bury me.
01:03:32.00:
01:03:35.08:I tell you, I feel abandoned.
01:03:39.07:
01:03:43.00:What makes me sad is that I wish...|What can I tell you?
01:03:46.05:
01:03:46.05:I wish I could clone myself.
01:03:48.00:
01:03:48.00:People have told me many times,|'We will clone you, Ticas
01:03:50.06:
01:03:50.06:because if you die, what then?'
01:03:52.02:
01:04:01.04:This country is small.
01:04:03.07:
01:04:03.07:And from one day to the next, who knows?|They might find me.
01:04:08.01:
01:04:09.06:I work alone.
01:04:11.04:
01:04:12.02:I don't have security or anything.
01:04:14.08:
01:04:15.05:And there's a lot of work.
01:04:17.08:
01:04:18.04:It's my job to go to very dangerous places.
01:04:22.00:
01:04:23.01:That's how it is, my friend.
01:04:25.04:
01:04:33.01:I'll be handling the electric cable.
01:04:35.08:
01:04:40.02:Let's see if it works.
01:04:41.07:
01:04:42.02:There, that's fine.
01:04:43.07:
01:04:54.02:Keep going down.
01:04:55.06:
01:05:05.02:Wait Ticas! Wait!
01:05:07.04:
01:05:07.06:Wait!
01:05:09.01:
01:05:15.00:Go lower, go lower!
01:05:17.02:
01:05:19.08:I want to record...
01:05:22.01:
01:05:23.03:close ups of the bodies.
01:05:25.01:
01:05:25.07:There you can see the flesh.
01:05:28.01:
01:05:28.08:There, you can see the shadow of the bodies.
01:05:31.05:
01:05:55.01:Are you tired, buddy?
01:05:57.02:
01:05:58.04:Tired, wet,
01:06:00.02:
01:06:01.01:and muddy.
01:06:02.06:
01:06:02.06:But satisfied because we achieved our objective.
01:06:05.04:
01:06:05.04:We needed to verify that there were|human remains down there.
01:06:10.08:
01:06:10.08:We know from informants that there are at least|4 or 5 bodies down there.
01:06:16.02:
01:06:16.02:They were dumped at different times. A year ago,|6 months ago and the most recent 2 months ago.
01:06:23.00:
01:06:23.04:So we needed to check this was right.
01:06:25.04:
01:06:25.04:I like my work. And I need to work.|But I wish I didn't have to work.
01:06:31.02:
01:06:31.06:I wish I had no more work...
01:06:33.08:
01:06:33.08:because this would mean that there|were no bodies, no more victims.
01:06:38.04:
01:06:38.06:And it hurts me to see mutilated young girls.
01:06:42.03:
01:06:42.03:How old is your daughter?
01:06:44.02:
01:06:44.02:16.
01:06:46.04:
01:06:47.06:So she's about to start looking for a boyfriend?
01:06:50.01:
01:06:50.01:You be quiet!
01:06:51.06:
01:06:51.07:Don't talk to me about that!
01:06:53.04:
01:06:53.06:She's gonna be a nun.
01:06:55.08:
01:06:57.00:It doesn't scare you?
01:06:58.06:
01:06:58.08:You know what scares me?|I know that's life. That's the way it is.
01:07:03.08:
01:07:03.08:What scares me is that|she meets someone...
01:07:08.01:
01:07:09.00:who will hurt her.
01:07:11.06:
01:07:11.06:But what scares me more, is that someone|who knows she is my daughter...
01:07:17.00:
01:07:17.00:will try to get to me and|harm me by hurting her.
01:07:21.00:
01:07:21.00:I have educated my kids by example.
01:07:24.07:
01:07:24.07:I don't go out after 9, I don't go to clubs,|I don't drink, I don't take drugs|I don't smoke.
01:07:30.07:
01:07:31.07:I've set a good example for my son and I tell him,|'Son, if I did this and that|I wouldn't be where I am.'
01:07:38.06:
01:07:38.06:I've explained to him the|suffering I've been through to be here,
01:07:43.03:
01:07:43.06:and the sacrifices I've made.
01:07:45.04:
01:07:45.04:I don't like to|talk about gangs.
01:07:48.08:
01:07:49.02:At conferences, I don't say gangs, I say|'delinquents' or 'juvenile delinquency.'
01:07:56.00:
01:07:56.05:This is how I talk about gangs. Why?
01:08:00.03:
01:08:00.06:Because I'm in the public eye. Anyone can find me.
01:08:05.02:
01:08:05.04:I drive around in this truck alone.
01:08:08.01:
01:08:08.01:I go all over the place, I don't have bodyguards or escorts.
01:08:12.00:
01:08:12.00:I have dreamt that I get shot.|That I die from being shot.
01:08:18.01:
01:08:20.08:This is how I say I will die. From gunshots.
01:08:23.07:
01:08:24.01:I can feel I won't die a natural death.
01:08:27.08:
01:08:42.03:My husband disappeared on the 5th of May,
01:08:45.05:
01:08:45.05:it was a Saturday.
01:08:47.02:
01:08:47.02:He left early for work,
01:08:49.08:
01:08:49.08:at 5am,
01:08:52.00:
01:08:56.00:and I haven't seen him since.
01:09:00.05:
01:09:04.00:With what we are living through here in Tonacatepeque,
01:09:07.03:
01:09:07.03:it's not just one person,
01:09:10.02:
01:09:10.04:it's many people who are missing.
01:09:13.05:
01:09:15.05:People say to me, 'Look, it's not just you.|They've taken two people from around here.
01:09:22.00:
01:09:22.02:There's a mother who's searching.' And I|wonder why these people are not making a fuss.
01:09:28.02:
01:09:28.06:Why they're not trying to stop all this.
01:09:32.02:
01:09:38.04:What do you understand by this?
01:09:41.02:
01:09:43.06:It's about cleaning our teeth.
01:09:47.07:
01:09:50.00:Can you study with all this noise?
01:09:53.00:
01:09:53.00:No.
01:09:54.01:
01:09:54.02:Does it bother you?
01:09:55.02:
01:09:55.02:Yes.
01:09:55.08:
01:10:02.02:We need to carry on as normal, right my love?
01:10:03.07:
01:10:03.07:Yes.
01:10:04.06:
01:10:04.06:You need to carry on studying.
01:10:07.02:
01:10:08.03:Yes.
01:10:09.02:
01:10:09.02:From here onwards,
01:10:11.06:
01:10:11.06:it's up to God.
01:10:13.04:
01:10:14.08:22 years together and there was|not a single night he didn't come home.
01:10:20.06:
01:10:21.06:But he's taught me that life goes on...
01:10:27.07:
01:10:28.05:and I think that wherever he is,
01:10:31.04:
01:10:32.02:that's what he's telling me. To carry on.
01:10:35.08:
01:11:13.07:He's already in the witness protection programme.
01:11:17.00:
01:11:17.00:He's given his account|of everything he knows.
01:11:21.08:
01:11:22.04:The investigators have verified the information|and concluded it is accurate.
01:11:27.01:
01:11:28.04:We identified graves on a map. He showed|us where the victims are buried.
01:11:34.08:
01:11:34.08:So his testimony now goes to court and they will decide|if he can stay in the witness protection programme.
01:11:45.02:
01:11:45.06:From here, more or less, how far are they?
01:11:49.02:
01:11:49.02:They're about here.
01:11:50.08:
01:11:50.08:And which is the most recent?
01:11:53.02:
01:11:53.02:The girl.
01:11:54.06:
01:11:54.06:How long has she been buried there?
01:11:59.01:
01:12:00.00:She was buried on the 9th of May,
01:12:02.00:
01:12:02.00:the 9th of June would make it a month. And|then the 9th of this month. That's 2 months.
01:12:06.02:
01:12:06.02:She's been there about two months.|In 7 days, it will be exactly 2 months.
01:12:12.02:
01:12:13.02:And she's the most recent?
01:12:15.04:
01:12:15.04:Yes.
01:12:16.02:
01:12:16.02:And the others have been there for longer?
01:12:18.01:
01:12:18.01:A few more months.
01:12:19.03:
01:12:19.03:So is there only one girl buried there?|Or are there other women there?
01:12:24.06:
01:12:25.04:There might be others, but not that I know of.|The rest of them are males.
01:12:31.04:
01:12:31.05:They're all guys?
01:12:33.02:
01:12:33.05:And they're all gangsters?
01:12:37.02:
01:12:38.04:They all have tattoos.
01:12:40.00:
01:12:40.00:From..?
01:12:40.08:
01:12:40.08:From 18 Street.
01:12:42.02:
01:12:42.02:And why did they get killed?
01:12:44.03:
01:12:44.06:For disobedience, nothing more.|They broke the rules.
01:12:49.04:
01:12:49.07:And the girl?
01:12:51.03:
01:12:51.03:They say she was cheating on|us with guys from MS-13.
01:12:57.07:
01:12:59.00:And the guys were taken there on foot?
01:13:01.04:
01:13:01.04:They told them that they were going to a party there.
01:13:04.06:
01:13:04.08:And they killed them.
01:13:07.04:
01:13:07.04:They were tricked into going.
01:13:09.07:
01:13:09.07:And the girl too?
01:13:11.04:
01:13:11.04:The girl was told that there was going to be|some action with the boyfriend in a private place.
01:13:17.04:
01:13:17.04:She got the same treatment.
01:13:19.06:
01:13:31.02:The programme covers them for a limited time.
01:13:34.02:
01:13:34.03:We try to help them with documentation to leave|the country when the programme finishes.
01:13:42.04:
01:13:42.05:When it's over, they have to fend for themselves,|and find creative ways to maintain their anonymity.
01:13:55.04:
01:13:55.05:They live with a constant risk.|With an imminent threat.
01:14:01.04:
01:14:05.06:There have been cases of key witnesses|that have finished the programme,
01:14:13.03:
01:14:13.06:but they've not maintained adequate security|measures and they've been murdered by their own gang.
01:14:27.03:
01:14:34.08:Hey, how's it going, buddy? Come to help me?
01:14:37.08:
01:14:39.08:He's the heir to my techniques,|he's my son.
01:14:46.00:
01:14:46.06:He's finishing law school.
01:14:51.03:
01:14:51.03:He's in his last year of university.
01:14:54.01:
01:14:54.01:He's now learning the techniques I use, and the|importance of scientific evidence.
01:15:01.04:
01:15:03.02:He's part of my crew.
01:15:05.06:
01:15:05.06:Just like the others here, he gives me a hand|when he can, when he doesn't have classes...
01:15:11.04:
01:15:11.04:and when he has time.
01:15:13.03:
01:15:13.03:He comes here, puts a mask on, grabs his kit and|helps me out. That's what we're gonna do today.
01:15:19.00:
01:15:19.02:So he's the next Engineer Ticas?
01:15:21.07:
01:15:21.07:He's the succesor.
01:15:23.02:
01:15:23.02:Let's hope so.
01:15:24.06:
01:15:24.08:And do you like the job?
01:15:26.03:
01:15:26.03:Yes.
01:15:28.02:
01:15:28.02:It's good to learn, mostly to try and take some of|the pressure off. Because it's only him out here.
01:15:35.02:
01:15:35.02:Let's hope I learn well.
01:15:37.08:
01:15:38.06:I should put something on.
01:15:41.01:
01:15:42.02:Are you going in? If not, put the|blue suit on,
01:15:46.04:
01:15:46.04:and stay up here.
01:15:49.04:
01:15:50.06:So what are you going to do down there?
01:15:53.06:
01:15:53.06:I don't know, I'll decide when I get to the body.
01:15:55.04:
01:15:55.04:It's best if you put the blue suit on.
01:15:57.07:
01:15:59.00:The blue shirt and trousers.
01:16:01.00:
01:16:01.00:Yes, because down there it stinks of chicken.
01:16:03.02:
01:16:04.03:Go put the blue suit on.
01:16:07.02:
01:16:10.01:Fucking stench!
01:16:12.00:
01:16:22.04:Are you going to use this, or the full suit?
01:16:24.05:
01:16:24.06:Just this.
01:16:26.01:
01:16:33.06:I was recently shown a video|of myself in a grave,
01:16:38.06:
01:16:39.06:of when they'd brought me pizza.
01:16:43.03:
01:16:43.03:I started eating the pizza right beside the|body and everyone was teasing me.
01:16:48.00:
01:16:49.04:It stinks, man!
01:16:50.08:
01:16:50.08:This is a technique that Ticas taught me.
01:16:53.02:
01:16:56.04:It filters the bad smell.
01:17:00.04:
01:17:01.06:With the filters, you don't breathe at 100%.
01:17:06.07:
01:17:07.06:The Vicks opens your airways and bronchi.
01:17:12.04:
01:17:13.03:It prevents you from tiring so quickly.
01:17:16.02:
01:17:16.02:It also stops the bad smell from getting|into your nasal passage.
01:17:20.05:
01:17:20.08:Because you can only smell the...
01:17:23.07:
01:17:24.06:What does Vicks have in it again?
01:17:28.01:
01:17:28.02:Eucalyptus or something like that.
01:17:30.05:
01:17:30.05:Balsam and Eucalyptus.
01:17:32.02:
01:17:32.02:So it stops the bad smell and when you wear a|mask, it allows you to breathe more easily.
01:17:42.02:
01:17:47.00:The bucket?
01:17:48.04:
01:17:48.06:The bucket!
01:17:49.04:
01:17:49.04:Here it is.
01:17:50.06:
01:18:08.07:We're recharging our batteries because|we have a long day ahead of us.
01:18:12.06:
01:18:13.00:I usually try to have a big breakfast because I don't|have lunch at work. I go all the way to dinner.
01:18:19.06:
01:18:19.06:So that's why we're here.
01:18:22.02:
01:18:23.03:Here, is where they hate me most.|Here, is where they're most critical of me.
01:18:27.06:
01:18:27.06:But you know what, this criticism fuckin'|helps me, like you can't imagine.
01:18:34.08:
01:18:35.01:Why?
01:18:36.01:
01:18:36.01:Because it gives me more|strength to prove them wrong.
01:18:40.04:
01:18:41.04:But the most important thing is to show myself|that I can do it. And that I can do it better.
01:18:47.06:
01:18:47.06:Every time I do it better, and I feel|proud of myself and my techniques.
01:18:52.06:
01:18:52.08:The fact that Forensic Medicine don't like me,|it's like we say in El Salvador,
01:18:56.07:
01:18:56.07:it's one of the 11 thousand fuckin' things|that I just don't give 2 shits about!
01:19:01.04:
01:19:01.07:If there are people inside the police that don't|like me or envy me, I don't care.
01:19:06.06:
01:19:06.06:That's the way it is.
01:19:08.03:
01:19:08.03:But why do they not like you?
01:19:09.06:
01:19:09.06:You know why? Because no man|is a prophet in his own land.
01:19:15.05:
01:19:15.06:It's called professional jealousy.
01:19:18.07:
01:19:20.00:Because a systems engineer is doing a job that|should be done by Forensic Medicine or the police.
01:19:26.02:
01:19:26.06:So,
01:19:28.01:
01:19:29.04:because I have created|and innovated techniques,
01:19:32.02:
01:19:33.04:and I tell them,|'Your techniques are antiquated!'
01:19:37.04:
01:19:37.06:I even said it to the world.
01:19:40.05:
01:19:43.01:To the Italians,|the Argentines, the Spanish|the Canadians.
01:19:45.06:
01:19:45.06:I said to all of them,'The techniques|you're using are antiquated!'
01:19:50.05:
01:21:04.06:It's a finger.
01:21:07.03:
01:22:43.03:Yeah man, it's Douglas.
01:22:44.06:
01:22:44.06:What's his name?
01:22:45.08:
01:22:46.01:Douglas Alberto Larios.
01:22:47.06:
01:22:48.00:Douglas Alberto Larios?
01:22:49.00:
01:22:49.04:Yes, Larios-Sandoval.
01:22:51.08:
01:22:52.01:He's my brother.
01:22:54.01:
01:22:54.04:How can you identify him?
01:22:56.04:
01:22:57.00:Because of the boots and his skinny body.
01:22:59.06:
01:22:59.06:Skinny and tall?
01:23:01.01:
01:23:01.01:Yes, it's my brother.
01:23:03.02:
01:23:07.05:Let's go, be calm.
01:23:09.06:
01:23:34.08:Sonya.
01:23:36.00:
01:23:36.07:Good afternoon.
01:23:38.01:
01:23:38.01:You've seen him.
01:23:39.07:
01:23:52.06:Have you seen him?
01:23:53.07:
01:23:53.07:He's down there.
01:23:55.06:
01:23:56.04:He still has his boots on.
01:23:59.00:
01:24:04.05:Do you remember what he was wearing, ma'am?
01:24:06.05:
01:24:06.05:Yes.
01:24:07.06:
01:24:07.06:Ok, come on over.
01:24:09.07:
01:24:12.08:You can't see his face. You will only see...
01:24:16.06:
01:24:16.06:like a skeleton.
01:24:19.04:
01:24:21.00:We're going to extract DNA to be 100% certain, but it's|still important for you to identify his clothes.
01:24:29.04:
01:24:29.06:So come this way.
01:24:31.06:
01:24:47.04:Good afternoon.
01:24:49.01:
01:24:49.08:Be calm.
01:24:51.06:
01:24:52.04:He's already identified him.
01:24:55.04:
01:25:17.08:I'm coming with you because I don't want...
01:25:21.01:
01:25:21.07:Stay calm.
01:25:24.04:
01:25:25.04:The hole is deep. Be careful not to faint and fall in.
01:25:29.08:
01:25:31.07:So hold her hand.
01:25:34.05:
01:25:35.03:You take her.
01:25:37.02:
01:25:37.02:Hold her tight.
01:25:39.02:
01:25:39.05:Be careful because...
01:25:41.01:
01:25:41.01:Stay calm, concentrate.
01:25:42.06:
01:25:42.06:I understand the way you feel.
01:25:46.04:
01:25:47.03:But...
01:25:48.06:
01:25:49.02:the emotion can be very|strong. Be brave.
01:25:52.02:
01:25:52.02:I'm gonna give her strength, and my daughter too.
01:25:55.01:
01:25:55.06:Let's go.
01:25:56.06:
01:25:56.06:Be calm, concentrate.
01:25:58.04:
01:26:03.06:Yes, it's him.
01:26:05.04:
01:26:21.00:Our mate Ticas.
01:26:22.04:
01:26:22.04:He's tired.
01:26:23.08:
01:26:23.08:Hey Ticas!
01:26:25.01:
01:26:25.02:Go for it!
01:26:26.04:
01:26:26.06:With everything!
01:26:27.08:
01:26:30.06:He doesn't just pull out dead bodies,|he also plays football.
01:26:33.01:
01:26:33.02:We're losing, but I reckon we will come back.
01:26:35.04:
01:26:42.08:So the old man is too old, eh?
01:26:46.00:
01:26:46.02:Yes, his little legs gave in.
01:26:48.05:
01:26:49.00:He's been on the ground most of the time,|but he can still move his hips.
01:26:53.00:
01:26:53.01:They didn't believe the way you moved!
01:26:55.04:
01:26:55.04:He can still shake his hips!
01:26:57.01:
01:26:57.01:Only to dig!
01:26:59.00:
01:26:59.06:He only spends time in holes.
01:27:01.07:
01:27:02.02:These guys are rough!
01:27:04.02:
01:27:04.04:I got kicked here.
01:27:06.05:
01:27:08.07:The other day they were even rougher!
01:27:11.03:
01:27:12.08:Look at their average age.
01:27:15.04:
01:27:15.04:Yes, they're all young.
01:27:16.08:
01:27:17.05:It's just like in Manchester, right?
01:27:20.01:
01:27:20.05:Yep, it's just like a Liverpool game!
01:27:24.04:
01:27:30.06:His work has always been present at home.
01:27:35.02:
01:27:35.02:We've always been aware of what he does,|and now even more because he's in the news.
01:27:41.06:
01:27:41.06:We're used to knowing that he will come back smelling|of dead people, his truck and belongings too.
01:27:51.05:
01:27:51.05:We're used to it.
01:27:54.05:
01:27:55.08:Just one half.
01:27:57.02:
01:27:57.07:By this age, these old folk...
01:28:00.07:
01:28:01.01:It's the old age.
01:28:03.02:
01:28:06.02:Ticas, cold water.
01:28:08.04:
01:28:13.03:Let's go eat.
01:28:14.06:
01:28:14.06:There's gonna be food?
01:28:15.07:
01:28:15.07:Yes, there is.
01:28:17.01:
01:28:17.02:Come on then!
01:28:18.04:
01:28:19.08:Did you see...
01:28:21.04:
01:28:22.01:how they were impressed by my hip movement?
01:28:24.08:
01:28:25.02:They didn't want you to dislocate them!
01:28:27.04:
01:28:28.07:I know the majority of his cases, I have worked on them|with him. I'm not scared of dead people.
01:28:34.03:
01:28:34.03:But I am scared that they|will seek reprisals against him.
01:28:37.05:
01:28:37.05:That someone will try and kill him,|or attack my family.
01:28:43.08:
01:28:44.04:They always rob me on the buses|near the university.
01:28:48.04:
01:28:49.00:The worst thing is that they're kids, like 13, 14, 15.
01:28:52.06:
01:28:52.06:A bus that hasn't been robbed is rare!
01:28:55.06:
01:28:55.06:It's dangerous. There have been several occasions|where they have taken my 'phone, my wallet.
01:29:05.00:
01:29:05.05:Sometimes not just me, but the whole bus.|They rob everyone on the bus.
01:29:10.03:
01:29:11.00:Once, they got out of a car and followed us.|Thankfully, they don't know who my dad is.
01:29:18.02:
01:29:18.02:I reckon they'd do more than rob me if they did.
01:29:21.05:
01:29:21.06:He pulls out dead people, he pulls out turtles!
01:29:24.04:
01:29:24.06:What's the name of the guy who got killed by the ray?
01:29:27.02:
01:29:27.02:Jeff Corwin.
01:29:28.05:
01:29:28.05:You're the death hunter!
01:29:31.00:
01:29:31.00:Hey, that's a fast one!
01:29:33.03:
01:29:33.08:Yes, a fast one!
01:29:35.06:
01:29:36.01:That's because it's young.|You need to catch the old ones.
01:29:39.07:
01:29:43.05:You know what scares Ticas?
01:29:46.00:
01:29:46.00:What scares him?
01:29:47.01:
01:29:48.05:I'm not scared of anything, not even|going down wells. Nothing. Nothing.
01:29:53.01:
01:29:53.06:I handle all kinds of snakes.|Even coral snakes. Everything!
01:29:58.02:
01:29:59.08:I go down wells where there are bats,|spiders, and I don't care what. I will go down.
01:30:06.02:
01:30:06.03:But if I see a frog!
01:30:08.08:
01:30:09.06:Really? Are you scared of frogs?
01:30:11.02:
01:30:11.02:Yeah, man.
01:30:12.04:
01:30:12.04:I went down a well to look for a body and|like 25 bats flew at me. But I didn't care.
01:30:20.01:
01:30:20.02:Then there were like a thousand hairy spiders|on the walls. But again, I didn't care.
01:30:27.02:
01:30:27.02:Massive lizzards too!|Still, I didn't care.
01:30:31.05:
01:30:31.05:When I got to the bottom to look for the|body, I saw 8 frogs like this!
01:30:37.05:
01:30:38.02:Alone with frogs down there!
01:30:40.06:
01:30:40.06:I kept on looking up and my legs were shaking.|So many frogs!
01:30:45.02:
01:30:56.04:You have to learn to be humble.
01:30:58.07:
01:30:58.08:Look at me. Look at where I eat,|the way I dress.
01:31:02.05:
01:31:02.07:Look at where I live.|The truck isn't mine.
01:31:05.04:
01:31:05.04:I don't earn what I should.
01:31:07.05:
01:31:07.05:I have aspirations because I have children|and I need to educate them.
01:31:12.06:
01:31:13.01:I have opportunities to leave.|Canada wants me. Spain too.
01:31:16.08:
01:31:17.04:But do you know what?
01:31:18.08:
01:31:18.08:I have a commitment to the families of|more than a thousand missing people.
01:31:27.01:
01:33:19.03:Written by Saraguate|Performed by Saraguate|Produced by Walter Calderon
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01:33:19.03:Contra La Pared
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01:33:19.03:Written by Bacteria Soundsystem Crew|Performed by Bacteria Soundsystem Crew|Produced by Plenno, LaChenteRecords.
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01:33:19.03:Matan Por La Plata
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01:33:19.03:Written by Saraguate|Performed by Saraguate|Produced by Walter Calderon
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01:33:19.03:Hasta Cuando
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01:33:19.03:Written by Saraguate|Performed by Saraguate|Produced by Walter Calderon
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01:33:19.03:El Tiempo
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