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- There's definitely an element of a buzz

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of being involved in that world

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because you're, all of a sudden,

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your mindset changes, "Oh

money's not an issue anymore."

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You know, I'm a bad man

and this is quite fun.

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This is quite exciting.

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It's controversy, it's conspiracy.

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- You've became.

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- It's thievery, it's evil, you know?

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- And it's okay.

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I can live with it.

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- Yeah and you make

that cold decision that,

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"I can live with this,

I can deal with this."

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- Can you carry that around with you?

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Does it not become a burden?

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- Well, I'm standing here today being

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completely, honestly

truthful about my experiences

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because I hated it.

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It was the worst, most

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character destroying, yeah.

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I think, yeah.

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I got a conscience and my conscience

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is a good person and one that cares.

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I don't wanna be a fake anymore.

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I don't want to

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be remembered for a cheat.

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I want to...

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- Sadly though, you will be.

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- Yep, absolutely.

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For the ones that won't forgive,

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but you know, who hasn't

made a mistake in this world?

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- When he got the

call out for the Black Caps,

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Lou Vincent came out fighting.

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- Clever,

brilliant, devastating.

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- Instantly

announcing himself as

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a remarkably talented batsman.

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- That is a superb hundred.

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That is a great moment for this young man.

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A century on debut.

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- Let's talk about

some of your achievements.

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A century on test debut,

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only the second New Zealander

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to do that in another country.

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That was pretty cool.

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- It's incredible.

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The only real cricket memorabilia I've got

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is of that test shirt and I was grateful

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enough to have the Australian team

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to sign one side and the

New Zealand team in--

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- Is that the one that's up on your wall?

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- Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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- You display that proudly.

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- A friend of mine made that up for me

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and put a lot of time and heart into it

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and, you know, there's things on there.

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I look up and it makes me sad,

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but it's also, I look up there and I go,

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"You know what, I

actually feel really proud

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"that I've achieved one

of the greatest things

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"any cricketer can do."

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And that's to score 100 in the test match.

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- And 224 against Sri Lanka

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and Wellington, only the 10th Black Cap

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to score a double century.

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You did some incredible stuff.

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- Yeah, thank you, yeah.

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It's in the blood when

you've played cricket

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growing up as a kid in the backyard

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and you're hitting hundreds against

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all the imaginary bowlers

that you see on TV.

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All the heroes that you look up to

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and to then be in the arena

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where you're actually

representing your country

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and to do well representing your country,

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there's no greater feeling.

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- Somehow you went from

that, from cricket hero,

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to a cheat.

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- Yep.

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Pretty sad, ey?

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Very hard, very hard to be at a, you know,

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drive past a cricket ground

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and sort of see these young guys

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and even now you still get noticed.

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You're Lou, you played with your heart.

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You know what I mean?

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What are they thinking?

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Like, I'm not really a hero anymore.

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I'm not someone they can look up to,

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but unfortunately,

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- [Lou] Yeah.

- It happened.

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- It happens.

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- Yes, but how?

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How does it happen?

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How do you get so deeply

ensconced in that dark world

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that you feel you can't escape?

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When he was sending the

ball all over the park,

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Lou Vincent was a

beautiful batsman to watch.

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- I can't believe

a guy can come out here

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and play like this, end up with a 64 play,

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almost all the shots and you guys

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have found him on some

sheep farm somewhere.

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- But in 2007

his Black Caps career ended.

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Struggling with depression,

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his performance was patchy.

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And then he found a lifeline.

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(upbeat music)

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The rebel Indian Cricket League,

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the ICL, glitzy and glamorous.

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Not quite the gentlemen's game here,

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but an opportunity to make some money.

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It would also become the beginning

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of the end for Lou Vincent.

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And it reads, from the

onset, like a high-rolling,

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high-stakes movie script.

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- They gotta plan.

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Somethings going on with this world team.

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It's not like them.

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- How does this begin?

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Does somebody approach you personally?

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- [Lou] Yeah.

- And what do they say?

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- Well, how it started was

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as you are, as most

professional cricketers,

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you have a lot of time, down

time in your hotel room.

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There was one evening, the phone rings,

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I answer it up and it's a very polite,

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okay spoken English Indian

gentlemen at the other line

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and he's like, "Are you Lou?"

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And, "Yes, I am."

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You know, "You're playing a

tournament coming up very soon

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"and I would like you to use my gear."

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You know, you do get calls like that

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every now and again.

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- So did he come to

the hotel the next day?

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- Yep, so yeah.

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The very next evening he arrived

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and I go up to the room

and knock on the door

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and the door opens and there's

a young gentlemen there

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and all sort of pretty

excited to see the gear

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and he invites me into the room

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and I go into the room and

there's nothing around.

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There's no cricket gear around.

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There's nothing, but apart

from a young Indian lady

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sitting on the end of the bed.

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And still naive to the whole thing and,

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"Hi, nice to meet you,

nice to meet you too."

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And yeah, you're having a nice day

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and all that sort of stuff and then

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I quickly asked, "Where's the gear?"

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- [Lou] 'Cause that's all

- That's why I'm here.

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- You're interested in, you know, and

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he's like, "It's the

concierge, bring it up

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"from the car, he'll be here soon,

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"but sit, have a drink and we'll talk."

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We spoke about cricket for 20 minutes,

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half an hour and it was all pretty,

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yeah, friendly, no worries.

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"Is this your wife?"

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And he starts laughing.

(laughs)

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I don't know, anyway.

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Then I said again, "Where's the gear

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"and what color are your stickers?"

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You know, "How many bats

do you make a year?"

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Just general chit-chat.

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And then I thought,

I'll go to the bathroom.

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I said, "Excuse me, I'll

just go to use your loo."

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So I walked into the bathroom

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and as I closed the door

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a foot appears, the door stops

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and then he pushes the door back open

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and he says, "Lou, my company,

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"she is a present from my company to you

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"to welcome you to our company."

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And, "I'll go downstairs."

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- He's offering you a prostitute.

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- Yes, yeah, yeah

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and then that's when it went, ding.

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This is a bit dodgy, this is no good.

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- But did you realize where it was going?

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- Well, you get educated, yeah.

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- So you knew this was (mumbles).

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- The honey trip, yeah.

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- The honey trip was right there

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on the beard waiting for you.

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- Absolutely.

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- What did you do?

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- The bite said the penny dropped

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and I'm like, "Oh, no

thank you, I'm gonna go."

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And then he said, "No, no, no."

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And then he pulls out a big wad of money.'

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A big stack of US dollars all stacked up

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and that's when it's just

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signed, sealed and delivered that you know

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that this is, you know?

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But this is all very, like you know,

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but this is how we operate

and this is the gear

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and use the gear and this is your present.

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- There was no gear, ever, anywhere?

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- And so I said, "Listen, no, I'm off.

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"Thank you very much, no, no, no, no."

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But he insisted that just

take the money anyway.

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"Take the money, please, it's yours.

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"Take the money, we don't need to worry."

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- And did you?

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- No, no, so I said--

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- What he did

instead was leave the room,

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tell someone he trusted

and there, wrongly,

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he thought the matter would end.

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- Then it wasn't until, I don't know,

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maybe half an hour, an hour later.

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I decided to go to

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a friend of mine at the times room,

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who I was playing with on the team.

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And I explained, I said, "You are not

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"gonna believe what just happened."

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Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

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I've just been approached and a prostitute

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and my take how to sort it out.

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And then that moment of silence where

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it's just quiet and then it's just

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my friend, just watching

him just take a deep breath

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and then in his words

say, "That's a good cover

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"because now you're working for me."

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And then I just realized

that, "Wow, this is happening.

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There's no turning back,

there's no way you're saying no.

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There's no way you're, you know?

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- Really?

- [Lou] Yeah.

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- Why could you not walk out of that room

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and say, "Mate, I am not interested

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"and I am not working for you."

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- Oh, trust me.

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If I could rewind the

clock I would do that.

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Absolutely do that.

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- Too late, he'd ascended.

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He was now working for the man

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under strict and specific instructions

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about how to cheat his

role in rigging a game,

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so the underworld betting

ring bosses could profit.

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- Once you were working

for the other person,

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how does it work?

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What are you required to do?

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- You know, it's pretty simple.

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I think what you can control in cricket

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is to under perform, like well.

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In my case, 'cause I was

always at the top of the order,

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you know, bat 20, I'd bowl score 10,

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10 to 15 runs off 20,

25 balls and get out.

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You know, it's as simple as that.

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- Although it must not

always be possible to

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actually execute your instructions.

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- No.

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- Was there a time when

you accidentally hit a six?

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- Yep, yep.

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That was a horrendous night, really

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because you know, I was on

10 or 15 off 20 odd balls

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and it was time to get out and,

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you know, I looked on the

sideline and you know,

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the person I was working for

was sitting on the sideline.

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Then left arm spinner,

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danced down the wicket to try and miss it

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and the ball hit a rock or something funny

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out of the foot marks and did something

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and ended up hitting the

lower, middle part of the bat

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and going over the bowlers head

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and then the fielder,

fumbling it over for six.

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- When you mucked up your instructions

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what did that mean for

you, that you'd ruined it

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for whoever you were working for?

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- I could tell straight

away that I'd done wrong

269

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and then I got the phone

call to come pay a visit

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to the person I was working for.

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And I walked into that room and

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there's three of us in there

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and then he pretty clearly

sat me down on the bed,

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walked away, grabbed his cricket bat

275

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and I'm surprised he didn't

follow through and hit me.

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I really thought,

277

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but when he stopped with

the bat above my head,

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you know, walking towards

me with this killer

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look in his eyes, I thought, "Oh well.

280

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"This is, yeah, this is

pretty serious what I've done

281

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"and it's a mistake, it's an accident,

282

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"but this guy doesn't believe me.

283

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"He thinks I'm going behind

his back and sort of, yeah."

284

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Not doing what his instructions were.

285

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It's pretty, pretty irony.

286

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- You were in really

deep then by that stage.

287

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- Oh, yeah because I hadn't seen one cent.

288

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I hadn't seen any money.

289

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- How much were you promised?

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- $50,000 US a game.

291

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- Big money.

292

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- That was the fourth or

fifth game of the tournament.

293

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So you can imagine, like--

294

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- So you were owed a couple

a hundred thousand US

295

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by this stage?

- [Lou] Yep.

296

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- And hadn't seen it.

297

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- No, and so when you finish the last game

298

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of the tournament with

the guy you're supposedly

299

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working for coming at

you with a cricket bat

300

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in front of another dear friend,

301

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you know what I mean,

you think, "I'm not gonna

302

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"see that money now."

303

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- And did you?

304

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- Nope.

305

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- Never saw the light of day.

306

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- No, used, used and abused.

307

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- Why didn't you walk away from it?

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- I think because

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I actually felt probably greedy

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for the first time in my life.

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I really had, like I said,

a chip on my shoulder

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with perhaps my career and

313

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I left New Zealand pretty heartbroken

314

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and a bit angry at the system.

315

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As the match fixing world opened up to me

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through someone I dearly looked up to,

317

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I all of a sudden

thought, "Yeah, actually,

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"I'm gonna start making

some really big money now

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"and, you know, stuff the world."

320

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You know?

321

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- I want a piece of this.

322

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- Yeah, absolutely, so I'd

be lying if I didn't say

323

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that greed was a part of it

324

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and it's sad to lose, it's sad, sorry,

325

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sad to become something you're not.

326

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You know, and it's gonna be

something that I'm gonna be

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tarnished with for the rest of my life.

328

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"Oh, he's greedy, he just wants money."

329

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- It's been said to us about you

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that you like to please people.

331

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Was that a factor in this?

332

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Did you feel you couldn't

say no at any point?

333

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- Oh, there's no way I could say no.

334

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The person that I was working for

335

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was a huge role model to me.

336

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I am vulnerable because my lifestyle.

337

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We won't go into it today,

338

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but my lifestyle has been constant change

339

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and constant moving,

340

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so I've never had that

support of consistent support.

341

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I've always latched onto the people I meet

342

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and I've always played

cricket with my heart

343

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and my sleeve and I've

always been that person.

344

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Too open, too honest and

345

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- [Lou] easily--

- And therefore vulnerable.

346

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- Easily, sort of lead down the wrong way.

347

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- A weakness

that meant his fixes

348

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weren't about to let him go.

349

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When Lancashire signed

Lou Vincent in 2008,

350

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he was described as a player

with a great reputation

351

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who would add fire power

to their top order.

352

00:14:01,984 --> 00:14:04,850

In Vincent's mind, he

wasn't about to let that

353

00:14:04,850 --> 00:14:07,349

reputation be tarnished.

354

00:14:07,349 --> 00:14:09,836

- You had a resolve, did you,

to not let it happen again?

355

00:14:09,836 --> 00:14:12,380

- In my opinion I would've

never, ever contemplated

356

00:14:12,380 --> 00:14:15,547

doing this on a sanctioned tournament.

357

00:14:17,833 --> 00:14:19,242

- But it did happen again.

358

00:14:19,242 --> 00:14:20,742

- [Lou] Yes.

- How?

359

00:14:21,767 --> 00:14:23,389

- A phone call.

360

00:14:23,389 --> 00:14:25,914

A phone call outta nowhere from the person

361

00:14:25,914 --> 00:14:28,862

I was working for in the ICL

362

00:14:28,862 --> 00:14:33,361

who happened to be in

England at the same time.

363

00:14:33,361 --> 00:14:36,239

It was time to meet up,

this could be a good thing.

364

00:14:36,239 --> 00:14:37,086

- You were optimistic about what

365

00:14:37,086 --> 00:14:38,247

this meeting might be about.

366

00:14:38,247 --> 00:14:40,628

- Yeah, this could mean that,

you know, I might get paid.

367

00:14:40,628 --> 00:14:42,909

I might see my money.

368

00:14:42,909 --> 00:14:44,909

- Instead what happened?

369

00:14:47,966 --> 00:14:49,383

- I was forgiven.

370

00:14:50,728 --> 00:14:54,895

I was told that I had to

earn my trust back with him

371

00:14:56,658 --> 00:14:58,158

and his people and

372

00:15:00,231 --> 00:15:03,436

that there was a game coming up on TV,

373

00:15:03,436 --> 00:15:06,603

which I was playing in for Lancashire,

374

00:15:07,926 --> 00:15:10,676

which I was told to under perform

375

00:15:12,730 --> 00:15:17,308

and by that, I mean, that

you score less than 10.

376

00:15:17,308 --> 00:15:21,225

And not do well, to prove

that I'm trustworthy.

377

00:15:23,841 --> 00:15:26,034

That's Kent and Sussex.

378

00:15:26,034 --> 00:15:27,658

- Vincent then went on to play

379

00:15:27,658 --> 00:15:31,229

county cricket for Sussex in 2011.

380

00:15:31,229 --> 00:15:34,828

Determined, again, to be able to say no.

381

00:15:34,828 --> 00:15:36,245

Again, he failed.

382

00:15:37,168 --> 00:15:40,418

Tempted by 40,000 pounds for this game.

383

00:15:42,513 --> 00:15:45,096

(crowd booing)

384

00:15:46,941 --> 00:15:49,603

Run out for seven balls for one,

385

00:15:49,603 --> 00:15:52,436

less than even the bookies wanted.

386

00:15:53,274 --> 00:15:54,543

- What is going through your mind

387

00:15:54,543 --> 00:15:57,514

as you're coming out to bat

388

00:15:57,514 --> 00:16:00,744

and you have this set of

instructions in your head?

389

00:16:00,744 --> 00:16:03,425

What is going, what does it feel like?

390

00:16:03,425 --> 00:16:06,842

- That's a good question because you feel

391

00:16:07,707 --> 00:16:10,356

like you're not there, you know?

392

00:16:10,356 --> 00:16:13,575

You're trying to go

through the preparation

393

00:16:13,575 --> 00:16:16,355

and everything like you

would normally do in a game

394

00:16:16,355 --> 00:16:18,085

to be ready.

395

00:16:18,085 --> 00:16:19,998

- So you're more of an

actor at that moment

396

00:16:19,998 --> 00:16:21,122

than a cricketer, aren't you?

397

00:16:21,122 --> 00:16:23,195

Because you're pretending.

- [Lou] Yeah.

398

00:16:23,195 --> 00:16:24,560

- Yeah, for sure, absolutely.

399

00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:28,059

You got to be sane to be

doing the hard warm ups

400

00:16:28,059 --> 00:16:30,086

and then getting yourself primed and ready

401

00:16:30,086 --> 00:16:31,868

like any other game, but.

402

00:16:31,868 --> 00:16:32,964

- We're you convincing at that?

403

00:16:32,964 --> 00:16:34,047

- But it's...

404

00:16:35,935 --> 00:16:37,610

I think I managed pretty well

405

00:16:37,610 --> 00:16:39,836

to be able to switch between the two.

406

00:16:39,836 --> 00:16:44,267

You learn to flick that

switch and go right, you know?

407

00:16:44,267 --> 00:16:47,353

I'm acting now and say, "Get on with it."

408

00:16:47,353 --> 00:16:50,568

Yeah, it's pretty sad and

pretty fake, isn't it?

409

00:16:50,568 --> 00:16:52,818

It's a very fake existence.

410

00:16:54,949 --> 00:16:58,256

But there is this quite scarily calmness

411

00:16:58,256 --> 00:16:59,754

when you are walking out to bat

412

00:16:59,754 --> 00:17:02,274

and you know that today, you know,

413

00:17:02,274 --> 00:17:03,875

you know you can look

at the paper tomorrow

414

00:17:03,875 --> 00:17:05,332

and you know you're not gonna do well.

415

00:17:05,332 --> 00:17:09,499

- Do you feel nervous or

worried or what do you feel?

416

00:17:10,597 --> 00:17:12,216

- I think unholiness is

probably the best way

417

00:17:12,216 --> 00:17:13,164

I'd describe it.

418

00:17:13,164 --> 00:17:16,175

You just feel like a

shell that's been operated

419

00:17:16,175 --> 00:17:17,903

by something else, like you're,

420

00:17:17,903 --> 00:17:20,736

it's almost like a remote control.

421

00:17:22,333 --> 00:17:25,464

You know it's wrong and

you stand there going,

422

00:17:25,464 --> 00:17:27,235

"God, what am I doing this for?"

423

00:17:27,235 --> 00:17:29,873

And then you sign

autographs after the game.

424

00:17:29,873 --> 00:17:32,191

Kids, kinda the autographs,

425

00:17:32,191 --> 00:17:33,524

as you're signing, you're going,

426

00:17:33,524 --> 00:17:35,100

"I wonder if this kid one day will ever

427

00:17:35,100 --> 00:17:38,563

"know the truth and will

rip up the signature

428

00:17:38,563 --> 00:17:40,399

"and put it in the bin?"

429

00:17:40,399 --> 00:17:43,306

Because yeah, that's pretty sad.

430

00:17:43,306 --> 00:17:44,386

- You're not the hero anymore.

431

00:17:44,386 --> 00:17:46,460

- Yeah, I'm not someone

that they can look up to.

432

00:17:46,460 --> 00:17:48,516

- You're 20 grand up, but

you've lost your sense

433

00:17:48,516 --> 00:17:49,495

of pride.

- [Lou] Yeah,

434

00:17:49,495 --> 00:17:51,190

I've lost my soul.

435

00:17:51,190 --> 00:17:53,358

Sell your soul to the dark side

436

00:17:53,358 --> 00:17:57,275

and it's a very hard road

to get back on track.

437

00:17:58,659 --> 00:17:59,521

- And by this stage,

438

00:17:59,521 --> 00:18:02,911

Vincent had been introduced

to yet another bookie.

439

00:18:02,911 --> 00:18:06,712

Now, he was working for three people.

440

00:18:06,712 --> 00:18:10,383

Life as a corrupt, crooked

player is complicated.

441

00:18:10,383 --> 00:18:14,188

Not least of all the money collection.

442

00:18:14,188 --> 00:18:17,804

- So how it works is I

would have to have 20 pounds

443

00:18:17,804 --> 00:18:22,226

note in my hand and then

I would text the code

444

00:18:22,226 --> 00:18:23,717

to the person I was working for.

445

00:18:23,717 --> 00:18:25,688

- A serial number of the (mumbles).

446

00:18:25,688 --> 00:18:28,831

- Yeah, so the Indian book maker,

447

00:18:28,831 --> 00:18:32,687

the Indian bookie, I'd

text him the details

448

00:18:32,687 --> 00:18:36,961

of the serial code to confirm

that when I do turn up

449

00:18:36,961 --> 00:18:40,129

to these people and hand

over the 20 pound note,

450

00:18:40,129 --> 00:18:42,922

they know that it's me and not

451

00:18:42,922 --> 00:18:44,377

- [Lou] someone else.

- Your money.

452

00:18:44,377 --> 00:18:46,890

- So you turn up and

this particular day was

453

00:18:46,890 --> 00:18:50,558

a backstreet in Birmingham, which was

454

00:18:50,558 --> 00:18:52,205

warehouses that were falling down

455

00:18:52,205 --> 00:18:56,288

and it was a scene out of

a proper gangster movie

456

00:18:57,281 --> 00:18:59,207

and pulled up to this door with this

457

00:18:59,207 --> 00:19:01,933

tiny little number on it and all the doors

458

00:19:01,933 --> 00:19:05,559

are the same for about half a mile.

459

00:19:05,559 --> 00:19:07,521

And nothing else around, no signs,

460

00:19:07,521 --> 00:19:09,230

no one on the street, no cars parked

461

00:19:09,230 --> 00:19:12,163

and then the knock at the door and yeah.

462

00:19:12,163 --> 00:19:14,817

Within two seconds the door opens and--

463

00:19:14,817 --> 00:19:16,331

- You hand over your 20 quid note.

464

00:19:16,331 --> 00:19:19,164

- I walk into this room

and it's a laundry,

465

00:19:19,164 --> 00:19:22,161

laundry mat, but in hindsight

466

00:19:22,161 --> 00:19:24,165

looking back I think they

just hung a few shirts up

467

00:19:24,165 --> 00:19:26,354

and had a dryer in the

corner to make it look

468

00:19:26,354 --> 00:19:27,583

like it was a laundry mat.

469

00:19:27,583 --> 00:19:28,416

- Legit.

470

00:19:28,416 --> 00:19:30,819

- Yeah and it was an elderly Indian couple

471

00:19:30,819 --> 00:19:35,431

just sitting there, and

your phone rings and it's,

472

00:19:35,431 --> 00:19:38,231

they're talking, whatever

they're talking about,

473

00:19:38,231 --> 00:19:39,553

hand over the 20, yep,

474

00:19:39,553 --> 00:19:41,056

and they hand the phone

to me just to confirm

475

00:19:41,056 --> 00:19:44,187

that it's me and not

some sort of intercept.

476

00:19:44,187 --> 00:19:46,554

Then it's literally, yep, there you go.

477

00:19:46,554 --> 00:19:50,387

There's your bag, no

worries, nice to meet ya.

478

00:19:51,308 --> 00:19:53,808

And then out the door and away you go.

479

00:19:53,808 --> 00:19:55,977

- Your world was just getting further

480

00:19:55,977 --> 00:19:57,556

and further dirty, wasn't it?

481

00:19:57,556 --> 00:19:58,905

- Oh, it was incredible.

482

00:19:58,905 --> 00:20:00,251

You've got two lives.

483

00:20:00,251 --> 00:20:02,321

You've got a life where you are yourself

484

00:20:02,321 --> 00:20:03,725

and you're a good genuine person

485

00:20:03,725 --> 00:20:06,855

and all of a sudden this other person

486

00:20:06,855 --> 00:20:09,585

is starting to grow a little bit further.

487

00:20:09,585 --> 00:20:12,623

This person is becoming deceitful,

488

00:20:12,623 --> 00:20:16,538

more deceitful, more

dishonest, more corrupt,

489

00:20:16,538 --> 00:20:17,822

more evil.

490

00:20:17,822 --> 00:20:20,298

- It's not a person in

the third person, it's you

491

00:20:20,298 --> 00:20:21,670

and you can see it happening to yourself.

492

00:20:21,670 --> 00:20:23,050

- That's right.

493

00:20:23,050 --> 00:20:25,221

- How do you live with it?

494

00:20:25,221 --> 00:20:27,355

- Alcohol helps.

495

00:20:27,355 --> 00:20:28,938

- [Lou] Yep, yep.

- Is that how

496

00:20:28,938 --> 00:20:29,829

you got through it?

497

00:20:29,829 --> 00:20:30,962

- Yeah, probably looking back

498

00:20:30,962 --> 00:20:33,295

there was some pretty, yeah.

499

00:20:35,295 --> 00:20:36,378

Pretty, yeah.

500

00:20:38,088 --> 00:20:40,338

It became a constant, daily

501

00:20:42,958 --> 00:20:46,208

release to suppress those evil thoughts

502

00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:51,527

and the evil person I was, it was.

503

00:20:51,527 --> 00:20:53,088

I drank a lot, you know?

504

00:20:53,088 --> 00:20:54,338

- What's a lot?

505

00:20:55,204 --> 00:20:59,044

- Enough just to cry yourself to sleep

506

00:20:59,044 --> 00:21:02,127

or, you know, pass out without having

507

00:21:03,626 --> 00:21:06,496

to worry about your conscience.

508

00:21:06,496 --> 00:21:10,509

- During that time when

you were in so deep

509

00:21:10,509 --> 00:21:13,137

how did you think you

would get away with it?

510

00:21:13,137 --> 00:21:16,159

- I wasn't gonna live,

it's as simple as that.

511

00:21:16,159 --> 00:21:17,076

I knew that

512

00:21:18,435 --> 00:21:21,423

I wasn't gonna be around

long enough to worry about

513

00:21:21,423 --> 00:21:23,314

the consequences of this.

514

00:21:23,314 --> 00:21:25,785

The only thing that was keeping me

515

00:21:25,785 --> 00:21:28,025

alive were my kids and my family.

516

00:21:28,025 --> 00:21:32,255

That was the only thing

that would've stopped me.

517

00:21:32,255 --> 00:21:34,458

- What do you mean by you?

518

00:21:34,458 --> 00:21:36,541

What do you mean by that?

519

00:21:39,050 --> 00:21:41,129

- I've got a responsibility as a father.

520

00:21:41,129 --> 00:21:43,584

I've brought two amazing

girls into the world

521

00:21:43,584 --> 00:21:47,334

and my responsibility

is to be there for them

522

00:21:48,714 --> 00:21:50,881

and I'm no good if I'm not there, am I?

523

00:21:50,881 --> 00:21:52,273

- Are you talking about that you

524

00:21:52,273 --> 00:21:54,197

considered taking your own life?

525

00:21:54,197 --> 00:21:57,128

- Oh, yep, that was a

pretty regular thought.

526

00:21:57,128 --> 00:21:58,606

No question at all.

527

00:21:58,606 --> 00:22:01,587

- That's the degree of

pressure you were under?

528

00:22:01,587 --> 00:22:02,670

- Absolutely.

529

00:22:05,512 --> 00:22:07,068

If you're completely and utterly empty

530

00:22:07,068 --> 00:22:10,173

as a human being and the worthlessness of

531

00:22:10,173 --> 00:22:14,090

not being able to be good

for anyone and it's--

532

00:22:15,564 --> 00:22:17,507

- And living a double life.

533

00:22:17,507 --> 00:22:19,135

- Yeah, like I said,

534

00:22:19,135 --> 00:22:21,218

to be a liar and a cheat,

535

00:22:22,365 --> 00:22:24,389

it just compounds it even more.

536

00:22:24,389 --> 00:22:26,837

Do it, look at ya, look

at yourself in the mirror.

537

00:22:26,837 --> 00:22:30,670

You know, do it, 'cause

look what you've done.

538

00:22:32,650 --> 00:22:34,496

- Yes, he was a cheat,

539

00:22:34,496 --> 00:22:37,042

but given the circumstances he describes

540

00:22:37,042 --> 00:22:40,550

it'd be a push to believe

he's the only one.

541

00:22:40,550 --> 00:22:42,666

Not that anyone tells each other.

542

00:22:42,666 --> 00:22:44,815

It's such a secretive world.

543

00:22:44,815 --> 00:22:47,758

Nobody knows who's working for whom.

544

00:22:47,758 --> 00:22:49,980

Who's dirty, who's not.

545

00:22:49,980 --> 00:22:54,182

- How wide spread do you

think match fixing is?

546

00:22:54,182 --> 00:22:58,159

- It scares me to think how

many players are involved.

547

00:22:58,159 --> 00:23:00,382

- New Zealand players?

548

00:23:00,382 --> 00:23:01,215

- No, no.

549

00:23:03,044 --> 00:23:05,794

- Why are you so sure about that?

550

00:23:09,609 --> 00:23:12,940

- I think as I was when I

was a New Zealand player

551

00:23:12,940 --> 00:23:14,377

the education was there.

552

00:23:14,377 --> 00:23:16,021

You knew about it

553

00:23:16,021 --> 00:23:17,235

and looking at the personnel,

554

00:23:17,235 --> 00:23:19,165

especially the Black Caps at the moment,

555

00:23:19,165 --> 00:23:20,988

they're a pretty tight unit and--

556

00:23:20,988 --> 00:23:22,769

- Have you ever cheated

when you've been playing

557

00:23:22,769 --> 00:23:23,968

for New Zealand?

558

00:23:23,968 --> 00:23:25,658

- Oh, no way.

559

00:23:25,658 --> 00:23:27,408

No, that's one thing.

560

00:23:29,257 --> 00:23:30,257

I can be so,

561

00:23:31,756 --> 00:23:34,157

I'm so proud of my career for New Zealand.

562

00:23:34,157 --> 00:23:35,735

There's so many great memories

563

00:23:35,735 --> 00:23:38,540

and that's what I always

hold dear to my heart.

564

00:23:38,540 --> 00:23:40,340

That I represented my country

565

00:23:40,340 --> 00:23:44,424

and tried 100% and a few of the times

566

00:23:44,424 --> 00:23:46,841

I didn't do well, but no, no.

567

00:23:48,673 --> 00:23:52,586

My whole New Zealand career was pure.

568

00:23:52,586 --> 00:23:53,990

- Can you hold on to that

569

00:23:53,990 --> 00:23:56,227

or do you feel that those achievements

570

00:23:56,227 --> 00:24:00,171

may be erased now by

what you've admitted to?

571

00:24:00,171 --> 00:24:01,963

- Not in my mind.

572

00:24:01,963 --> 00:24:03,916

Because I'm still gonna

have that shirt hung up

573

00:24:03,916 --> 00:24:06,688

in my home of my proudest moment

574

00:24:06,688 --> 00:24:08,801

of representing New

Zealand with a test shirt

575

00:24:08,801 --> 00:24:11,301

on my back for the first time.

576

00:24:12,241 --> 00:24:13,909

I'm very proud.

577

00:24:13,909 --> 00:24:15,904

- His cheating did hit home.

578

00:24:15,904 --> 00:24:17,722

Though not home soil.

579

00:24:17,722 --> 00:24:19,602

- It's in the

air, it's well caught.

580

00:24:19,602 --> 00:24:21,133

- Vincent admits to fixing

581

00:24:21,133 --> 00:24:24,947

in the 2012 Champions

League for the Auckland Aces

582

00:24:24,947 --> 00:24:28,250

in South Africa with great regrets.

583

00:24:28,250 --> 00:24:31,588

- Auckland is a team I've

played for since I was 18.

584

00:24:31,588 --> 00:24:34,807

Such a great group of guys too

585

00:24:34,807 --> 00:24:38,890

and that's my home team

and I have let them down.

586

00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:42,337

I will forever be

587

00:24:44,862 --> 00:24:47,858

ashamed as an Auckland representative

588

00:24:47,858 --> 00:24:50,845

to have brought this into New Zealand.

589

00:24:50,845 --> 00:24:53,211

- Have you apologized

to your teammates yet?

590

00:24:53,211 --> 00:24:54,393

- I haven't seen anyone.

591

00:24:54,393 --> 00:24:56,173

I've spent 12 months away,

592

00:24:56,173 --> 00:24:58,701

giving my respect to the investigation

593

00:24:58,701 --> 00:25:01,507

and there's a lot of

people that I need to see

594

00:25:01,507 --> 00:25:03,020

and see face-to-face.

595

00:25:03,020 --> 00:25:06,836

- Do you think they'll

accept your apology?

596

00:25:06,836 --> 00:25:10,183

- I hope so because I

speak from the heart.

597

00:25:10,183 --> 00:25:12,826

Putting my hand up and accepting not only

598

00:25:12,826 --> 00:25:16,473

the consequences, but

telling the truth and

599

00:25:16,473 --> 00:25:20,155

I hope, I believe that

if people tell the truth

600

00:25:20,155 --> 00:25:21,943

that they should be, yeah.

601

00:25:21,943 --> 00:25:25,164

Hopefully, an element of forgiveness.

602

00:25:25,164 --> 00:25:26,759

- Maybe that's to come,

603

00:25:26,759 --> 00:25:30,926

but so far all Vincent has

bought himself is a fight.

604

00:25:32,537 --> 00:25:34,054

- Confessions

of a cricket fixer

605

00:25:34,054 --> 00:25:36,530

is a headline, the subtext said it all.

606

00:25:36,530 --> 00:25:38,508

- He caused

a splash, all right.

607

00:25:38,508 --> 00:25:41,291

Leading bulletins and

dominating front pages

608

00:25:41,291 --> 00:25:42,693

all over the world,

609

00:25:42,693 --> 00:25:46,888

but not the kind of headlines

any cricketer would want.

610

00:25:46,888 --> 00:25:49,895

Vincent's testimony to

investigators had been leaked

611

00:25:49,895 --> 00:25:53,063

and he'd implicated other players.

612

00:25:53,063 --> 00:25:55,613

- A big, big story for cricket.

613

00:25:55,613 --> 00:25:57,498

- Vincent's now facing 14 charges.

614

00:25:57,498 --> 00:26:00,818

(speaking foreign language)

615

00:26:00,818 --> 00:26:01,884

- Prompting former New Zealand

616

00:26:01,884 --> 00:26:04,467

All Rounder Chris Kens to react

617

00:26:05,644 --> 00:26:08,061

and he came out aggressively.

618

00:26:09,127 --> 00:26:11,951

- I repeat that each and

every allegation against me

619

00:26:11,951 --> 00:26:14,104

that I have cheated in

cricket or attempted

620

00:26:14,104 --> 00:26:17,695

to induce others to cheat

at cricket is false.

621

00:26:17,695 --> 00:26:19,616

- It was such an extraordinary

622

00:26:19,616 --> 00:26:22,417

media conference like

nothing the sport here

623

00:26:22,417 --> 00:26:24,256

had ever seen before.

624

00:26:24,256 --> 00:26:26,673

- First, Lou Vincent, in 2008

625

00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:31,705

he had a lot of problems

that he has admitted to.

626

00:26:31,705 --> 00:26:34,387

I endeavor to become a friend to him

627

00:26:34,387 --> 00:26:36,288

in these difficult times.

628

00:26:36,288 --> 00:26:40,153

He has betrayed the

friendship I offered him.

629

00:26:40,153 --> 00:26:43,654

He now seeks to betray

himself as a whistle blower.

630

00:26:43,654 --> 00:26:46,595

He is nothing of the sort.

631

00:26:46,595 --> 00:26:48,711

The truth is he has been caught cheating

632

00:26:48,711 --> 00:26:52,878

and seeks to mitigate his

sentence by blaming others.

633

00:26:53,721 --> 00:26:56,080

- Chris Kens in that press conference

634

00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,544

came out swinging, he was defiant

635

00:26:58,544 --> 00:27:03,485

and he particularly came

out swinging against you.

636

00:27:03,485 --> 00:27:05,194

- Yeah, unfortunately I can't make any

637

00:27:05,194 --> 00:27:08,027

comments in regards to Chris Kens.

638

00:27:08,928 --> 00:27:11,458

- He called your testimony,

639

00:27:11,458 --> 00:27:15,472

he said it was full of despicable lies.

640

00:27:15,472 --> 00:27:16,999

- Well, I'm here today.

641

00:27:16,999 --> 00:27:18,431

I'm proud enough to stand here

642

00:27:18,431 --> 00:27:21,752

and from the start when

I decided to come forward

643

00:27:21,752 --> 00:27:24,741

and tell the truth I've

told nothing but the truth.

644

00:27:24,741 --> 00:27:27,908

- He says that he was a friend to you.

645

00:27:30,460 --> 00:27:33,192

- He was, he was one of those guys that I

646

00:27:33,192 --> 00:27:36,091

dearly looked up to, he was a hero.

647

00:27:36,091 --> 00:27:37,287

Playing with him for New Zealand

648

00:27:37,287 --> 00:27:39,875

it was the power of

having him on your team,

649

00:27:39,875 --> 00:27:41,958

you just felt invincible.

650

00:27:42,938 --> 00:27:45,019

He was a hero, but he isn't now.

651

00:27:45,019 --> 00:27:47,985

He's not a friend anymore.

652

00:27:47,985 --> 00:27:49,138

- The international cricketing world

653

00:27:49,138 --> 00:27:51,479

has reacted with some

relief after Lou Vincent's

654

00:27:51,479 --> 00:27:53,421

admission that he's a cheat.

655

00:27:53,421 --> 00:27:55,348

- The truth,

Vincent says he speaks of

656

00:27:55,348 --> 00:27:57,911

as one that last night

led to one of the biggest

657

00:27:57,911 --> 00:28:00,458

cricketing downfalls ever seen.

658

00:28:00,458 --> 00:28:03,087

He was banned from the game for life.

659

00:28:03,087 --> 00:28:04,913

- At least he's come out there, admit it.

660

00:28:04,913 --> 00:28:07,298

His life ban will stay.

661

00:28:07,298 --> 00:28:09,044

What he said is exactly right.

662

00:28:09,044 --> 00:28:11,049

The things that he's

said and what he's done

663

00:28:11,049 --> 00:28:13,766

for his country and for

the game of cricket stands

664

00:28:13,766 --> 00:28:17,099

and he'll have to face the price for it.

665

00:28:18,401 --> 00:28:22,025

- My name is Lou Vincent and I am a cheat.

666

00:28:22,025 --> 00:28:23,505

- He went

public with a statement

667

00:28:23,505 --> 00:28:26,290

he's been working on for a long time.

668

00:28:26,290 --> 00:28:30,166

- I lost faith in myself and the game.

669

00:28:30,166 --> 00:28:31,996

I abused the game I love.

670

00:28:31,996 --> 00:28:34,165

- He wanted

to try to put things right

671

00:28:34,165 --> 00:28:35,802

as best he could.

672

00:28:35,802 --> 00:28:38,260

- I accept my punishment and thank you

673

00:28:38,260 --> 00:28:40,760

for listening to my statement.

674

00:28:42,579 --> 00:28:45,846

(laughing and crying)

- Wow.

675

00:28:45,846 --> 00:28:46,846

- Well done.

676

00:28:53,493 --> 00:28:55,741

- You must have come to a

million cricket games like this.

677

00:28:55,741 --> 00:28:57,497

- Lou Vincent

has been playing cricket

678

00:28:57,497 --> 00:29:00,394

since the age of four in the backyard

679

00:29:00,394 --> 00:29:02,888

and at grounds like this with his father

680

00:29:02,888 --> 00:29:05,930

teaching him the straight drive.

681

00:29:05,930 --> 00:29:09,271

We were here with him just

before the ban was announced.

682

00:29:09,271 --> 00:29:11,660

- Lou, this is kind of

the epitome of grass roots

683

00:29:11,660 --> 00:29:13,865

New Zealand cricket, isn't

it, a ground like this?

684

00:29:13,865 --> 00:29:15,319

- This is where it all starts.

685

00:29:15,319 --> 00:29:17,187

A ground like this with a rough outfield

686

00:29:17,187 --> 00:29:20,186

and the old hard wicket, artificial.

687

00:29:20,186 --> 00:29:22,921

This is where you were

meant to play cricket.

688

00:29:22,921 --> 00:29:24,944

- The ban that you face,

689

00:29:24,944 --> 00:29:27,787

the ban that you have caught,

a life ban from cricket,

690

00:29:27,787 --> 00:29:30,835

in practicality, what

does it actually mean?

691

00:29:30,835 --> 00:29:31,818

- Well, it means that I probably shouldn't

692

00:29:31,818 --> 00:29:33,636

be standing on the wicket. (laughing)

693

00:29:33,636 --> 00:29:34,469

- Seriously?

694

00:29:34,469 --> 00:29:37,530

- It's, like I said,

life ban is a life ban.

695

00:29:37,530 --> 00:29:38,989

You know, you're looking at the coaching.

696

00:29:38,989 --> 00:29:40,049

You're looking at club cricket.

697

00:29:40,049 --> 00:29:42,717

You're looking at events,

functions, everything.

698

00:29:42,717 --> 00:29:46,007

It's sad because I would

love to be out here

699

00:29:46,007 --> 00:29:47,478

taking my kids one day.

700

00:29:47,478 --> 00:29:49,227

Their kids, to a cricket game.

701

00:29:49,227 --> 00:29:50,388

- Is it sunk in yet?

702

00:29:50,388 --> 00:29:53,208

- No, I think there's been moments

703

00:29:53,208 --> 00:29:57,138

where I've thought, kind of visualized

704

00:29:57,138 --> 00:29:58,920

holding a bat and playing cricket again

705

00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,503

and I can't see that happening.

706

00:30:02,818 --> 00:30:05,874

- Is it like some self imposed penance

707

00:30:05,874 --> 00:30:07,274

that you don't want to pick up a bat

708

00:30:07,274 --> 00:30:09,635

because you don't feel you deserve to?

709

00:30:09,635 --> 00:30:11,680

- There's an element to that, absolutely.

710

00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:13,295

You know I've shamed the game

711

00:30:13,295 --> 00:30:16,295

and I've done some horrendous things

712

00:30:17,635 --> 00:30:20,570

and, you know, the consequences of that,

713

00:30:20,570 --> 00:30:23,287

the game has got to be protected

from people that cheat.

714

00:30:23,287 --> 00:30:24,635

And they've got to do everything possible

715

00:30:24,635 --> 00:30:26,750

to keep these people away from grounds.

716

00:30:26,750 --> 00:30:29,314

- This here today might be the last time

717

00:30:29,314 --> 00:30:32,147

you ever stand here at the crease.

718

00:30:33,761 --> 00:30:35,696

What's that like?

719

00:30:35,696 --> 00:30:37,408

These are not quite hallowed grounds,

720

00:30:37,408 --> 00:30:39,538

but this is where it happens, isn't it?

721

00:30:39,538 --> 00:30:41,968

- Yeah, this is a pretty

significant moment

722

00:30:41,968 --> 00:30:44,551

and yeah, all I can say is that

723

00:30:45,619 --> 00:30:47,479

the game of cricket is a wonderful game

724

00:30:47,479 --> 00:30:50,479

and I'm glad for every minute of it.

725

00:30:52,378 --> 00:30:53,899

I'm gonna miss it.

726

00:30:53,899 --> 00:30:56,232

I'm gonna miss it very much.

727

00:30:57,192 --> 00:30:58,794

- Yeah.

- [Lou] Yeah.

728

00:30:58,794 --> 00:30:59,627

But hey.

729

00:31:01,532 --> 00:31:02,365

- It's a shame.

730

00:31:02,365 --> 00:31:03,392

Cricket will miss you too

731

00:31:03,392 --> 00:31:04,769

despite the things that you've done.

732

00:31:04,769 --> 00:31:07,270

- Yeah, yeah one day, you never know.

733

00:31:07,270 --> 00:31:08,980

I might be able to put a

wig on and jump the fence

734

00:31:08,980 --> 00:31:10,995

and sit in the tiers

(mumbles) when they bring

735

00:31:10,995 --> 00:31:12,865

cans of beer back in to the grounds.

736

00:31:12,865 --> 00:31:14,100

(laughing)

737

00:31:14,100 --> 00:31:16,232

But for now, yeah, it's a sad goodbye,

738

00:31:16,232 --> 00:31:19,815

but yeah, on with the

next chapter in life.

739

00:31:20,826 --> 00:31:23,935

- Fortunately,

there is already a next chapter.

740

00:31:23,935 --> 00:31:25,685

You'll meet her next.

741

00:31:28,585 --> 00:31:33,483

(motor whirring)

(chatting)

742

00:31:33,483 --> 00:31:35,498

- There are no adoring fans,

743

00:31:35,498 --> 00:31:37,498

no cheering crowds here.

744

00:31:39,267 --> 00:31:42,324

The body that smashed all those sixers

745

00:31:42,324 --> 00:31:46,074

still powerful, earning

an honest dollar now.

746

00:31:48,427 --> 00:31:50,760

And there's something else, someone else

747

00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,503

that's a significant change in his life.

748

00:31:53,503 --> 00:31:56,156

- You two are engaged to be married.

749

00:31:56,156 --> 00:31:57,193

- Yeah.

750

00:31:57,193 --> 00:31:58,091

- Congratulations.

751

00:31:58,091 --> 00:31:59,120

- Thank you.

752

00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:00,373

- What is about Lou

753

00:32:00,373 --> 00:32:03,290

that makes you want to be with him?

754

00:32:05,111 --> 00:32:06,513

- His heart.

755

00:32:06,513 --> 00:32:09,513

I just saw what a huge heart he had.

756

00:32:10,689 --> 00:32:12,402

- And you still think that?

757

00:32:12,402 --> 00:32:14,928

- Even more, he's an awesome person.

758

00:32:14,928 --> 00:32:16,277

He's a...

759

00:32:16,277 --> 00:32:18,008

I'm very lucky.

760

00:32:18,008 --> 00:32:20,347

- Come on, boy, come on.

761

00:32:20,347 --> 00:32:22,168

- Suzie

Marcom is Lou Vincent's

762

00:32:22,168 --> 00:32:24,039

partner of two years.

763

00:32:24,039 --> 00:32:26,044

She's moved all the way from Guernsey

764

00:32:26,044 --> 00:32:29,026

to be with him in rural

Northwest Auckland.

765

00:32:29,026 --> 00:32:30,907

Overlooking the Carpeta Harbor.

766

00:32:30,907 --> 00:32:32,108

- Go boy, go.

767

00:32:32,108 --> 00:32:33,638

- But the tranquility belies

768

00:32:33,638 --> 00:32:36,778

the upheaval they've been through.

769

00:32:36,778 --> 00:32:39,239

- Before you came to

New Zealand from the UK,

770

00:32:39,239 --> 00:32:42,572

did you have any idea of what he'd done?

771

00:32:43,436 --> 00:32:45,933

- Yeah, very soon in our relationship.

772

00:32:45,933 --> 00:32:47,855

We fell in love pretty quickly.

773

00:32:47,855 --> 00:32:51,272

We connected really well and Lou told me.

774

00:32:52,302 --> 00:32:53,533

- He told you back then?

775

00:32:53,533 --> 00:32:55,657

- Yeah, and we sat down in his bus.

776

00:32:55,657 --> 00:32:58,411

He was living in a bus and we sat down.

777

00:32:58,411 --> 00:33:00,174

I remember it was pouring down with rain

778

00:33:00,174 --> 00:33:02,992

and he said, "I've got

something to tell you."

779

00:33:02,992 --> 00:33:04,968

And he told me about his match fixing days

780

00:33:04,968 --> 00:33:07,713

and he was still a cricketer at the time.

781

00:33:07,713 --> 00:33:09,354

He was still playing, so.

782

00:33:09,354 --> 00:33:11,034

- What did you think?

783

00:33:11,034 --> 00:33:12,799

- I didn't like it.

784

00:33:12,799 --> 00:33:15,066

I thought it was wrong.

785

00:33:15,066 --> 00:33:17,243

But by then I was in love with Lou

786

00:33:17,243 --> 00:33:19,993

and I knew he wanted to do right.

787

00:33:20,874 --> 00:33:21,905

I knew he was a good man.

788

00:33:21,905 --> 00:33:23,640

There was absolutely no doubt in my mind

789

00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:27,331

that, you know, that he

needed support and help.

790

00:33:27,331 --> 00:33:29,095

He was in a bad place when I met him.

791

00:33:29,095 --> 00:33:31,471

- Couldn't really go any

further down, could it?

792

00:33:31,471 --> 00:33:33,873

- Yeah it could go down further.

793

00:33:33,873 --> 00:33:36,626

I wouldn't be sitting here with you today.

794

00:33:36,626 --> 00:33:39,244

And those are the

mindsets that you get into

795

00:33:39,244 --> 00:33:41,557

when you just go, "There's no way out."

796

00:33:41,557 --> 00:33:44,250

But I'm so glad that somewhere deep inside

797

00:33:44,250 --> 00:33:48,165

I have got that inner

strength to be able to

798

00:33:48,165 --> 00:33:50,832

deal with dark, dark places that

799

00:33:51,752 --> 00:33:52,858

human beings can go through

800

00:33:52,858 --> 00:33:56,657

and reaching out and

I reached out to Suzie

801

00:33:56,657 --> 00:33:58,752

and I said, "Listen, I love you dearly

802

00:33:58,752 --> 00:34:01,585

"and I need, I think, some help to

803

00:34:03,189 --> 00:34:05,350

"deal with this dark secret."

804

00:34:05,350 --> 00:34:09,997

- And I said to Lou, "I

won't be any part of this,

805

00:34:09,997 --> 00:34:11,322

"but if you choose to do the right thing

806

00:34:11,322 --> 00:34:13,863

"I will hold your hand and

support you all the way."

807

00:34:13,863 --> 00:34:16,030

Which hopefully I've done.

808

00:34:20,665 --> 00:34:23,254

- Yet, even

after making the decision

809

00:34:23,254 --> 00:34:25,746

to reach out to Suzie, Lou fell into

810

00:34:25,746 --> 00:34:27,395

the bookie's arms once more

811

00:34:27,395 --> 00:34:29,764

in that Champions League Tournament

812

00:34:29,764 --> 00:34:32,931

for the Auckland Aces in South Africa.

813

00:34:34,144 --> 00:34:35,731

- I wonder if some people will struggle

814

00:34:35,731 --> 00:34:39,237

to understand how Lou

couldn't just walk away?

815

00:34:39,237 --> 00:34:40,491

Say, "No, I'm sick of this.

816

00:34:40,491 --> 00:34:42,161

"I don't want a bar of this anymore."

817

00:34:42,161 --> 00:34:43,705

- You know, I get that

818

00:34:43,705 --> 00:34:46,955

and I was with Lou through South Africa

819

00:34:48,796 --> 00:34:52,482

and I saw him, he made a promise to me

820

00:34:52,482 --> 00:34:54,809

and he broke that promise and we had

821

00:34:54,809 --> 00:34:57,334

situations to deal with between ourselves

822

00:34:57,334 --> 00:34:58,603

because yes, he--

823

00:34:58,603 --> 00:35:00,199

- What was the promise he made to you?

824

00:35:00,199 --> 00:35:03,490

- He made a promise not

to ever cheat again.

825

00:35:03,490 --> 00:35:05,093

And he did cheat,

826

00:35:05,093 --> 00:35:07,585

but in a funny sort of way

827

00:35:07,585 --> 00:35:09,294

I knew it was going to happen

828

00:35:09,294 --> 00:35:12,532

and I knew he needed to reach rock bottom

829

00:35:12,532 --> 00:35:14,549

and South Africa he did.

830

00:35:14,549 --> 00:35:17,231

And he used to phone me like,

831

00:35:17,231 --> 00:35:19,056

"Babe, they won't leave me alone.

832

00:35:19,056 --> 00:35:20,105

"They won't leave me alone.

833

00:35:20,105 --> 00:35:21,451

"I've turned off my phones.

834

00:35:21,451 --> 00:35:23,983

"They're getting to me

through Facebook now.

835

00:35:23,983 --> 00:35:25,333

"I'm gonna delete Facebook."

836

00:35:25,333 --> 00:35:26,750

It'd be constant.

837

00:35:27,806 --> 00:35:29,028

It'd just be, "They won't leave me alone.

838

00:35:29,028 --> 00:35:30,943

"They won't leave me alone."

839

00:35:30,943 --> 00:35:34,040

And yeah, he gave in one more time

840

00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:35,957

and I was furious, I...

841

00:35:37,982 --> 00:35:39,928

He got in a plane and left the game

842

00:35:39,928 --> 00:35:42,183

and he come to Guernsey immediately

843

00:35:42,183 --> 00:35:45,206

and yeah, he had a lot of--

844

00:35:45,206 --> 00:35:46,039

- Yeah.

845

00:35:46,039 --> 00:35:48,137

- He had a lot of explaining to do.

846

00:35:48,137 --> 00:35:49,455

And we got through that period

847

00:35:49,455 --> 00:35:52,170

and that was, as far as I'm concerned,

848

00:35:52,170 --> 00:35:54,882

that was the change in Lou's life.

849

00:35:54,882 --> 00:35:56,453

Three days in a hotel room

850

00:35:56,453 --> 00:35:58,620

crying, apologizing to me,

851

00:36:00,362 --> 00:36:02,516

and that was it.

852

00:36:02,516 --> 00:36:05,125

He knew he had to change his life or

853

00:36:05,125 --> 00:36:07,681

he wouldn't be here today, seriously.

854

00:36:07,681 --> 00:36:09,502

- Is that how you see it, Lou?

855

00:36:09,502 --> 00:36:11,428

That's when the turning point came.

856

00:36:11,428 --> 00:36:12,522

- For sure, yeah.

857

00:36:12,522 --> 00:36:14,927

I'd lied to the woman I love

858

00:36:14,927 --> 00:36:18,177

and that's a pretty heartbreaking thing

859

00:36:19,251 --> 00:36:21,584

for any couple to go through

860

00:36:22,674 --> 00:36:23,996

'cause trust is what it's about.

861

00:36:23,996 --> 00:36:27,013

It's what you build any relationship on.

862

00:36:27,013 --> 00:36:30,005

- [Suzie] Lizzie, come, come.

863

00:36:30,005 --> 00:36:31,277

- There will be people who

864

00:36:31,277 --> 00:36:33,076

will never forgive Lou Vincent

865

00:36:33,076 --> 00:36:36,155

for the damage he's caused

to the game of cricket.

866

00:36:36,155 --> 00:36:38,637

They get that, in all sense is,

867

00:36:38,637 --> 00:36:40,610

they couldn't have been more honest

868

00:36:40,610 --> 00:36:43,365

about how and why it happened

869

00:36:43,365 --> 00:36:46,124

and the utter deep remorse Lou feels

870

00:36:46,124 --> 00:36:47,457

for what he did.

871

00:36:48,740 --> 00:36:50,190

They don't know what's next

872

00:36:50,190 --> 00:36:52,763

apart from that it's

a life without cricket

873

00:36:52,763 --> 00:36:55,768

in any capacity ever again.

874

00:36:55,768 --> 00:36:57,408

They accept that.

875

00:36:57,408 --> 00:37:01,805

They're rebuilding their

own lives and their future.

876

00:37:01,805 --> 00:37:05,620

- How do you reestablish your own sense of

877

00:37:05,620 --> 00:37:09,483

self worth and of dignity

after doing what you did?

878

00:37:09,483 --> 00:37:11,251

- I've already done it.

879

00:37:11,251 --> 00:37:15,106

Yeah, I'm there, I've got a purpose and

880

00:37:15,106 --> 00:37:17,139

I've been true to my word.

881

00:37:17,139 --> 00:37:18,866

I promised Suzie a better life

882

00:37:18,866 --> 00:37:21,449

and I've promised to be honest.

883

00:37:23,365 --> 00:37:25,309

I'm there, I love life.

884

00:37:25,309 --> 00:37:27,784

I can't wait, I can't

wait to get out there

885

00:37:27,784 --> 00:37:31,015

and see these people I

haven't seen for many years

886

00:37:31,015 --> 00:37:34,098

and be able to have a life of fun and

887

00:37:36,073 --> 00:37:39,073

I love life, it's as simple as that.

888

00:37:46,151 --> 00:37:48,734

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