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0001            00:00:29:07            00:00:31:20

If you can lift it here.

 

0002            00:00:44:24            00:00:46:20

Is this all right?

 

0003            00:00:51:22            00:00:54:04

Put it on the edge.

 

0004            00:00:54:07            00:00:56:01

Now move it further back.

 

0005            00:01:04:09            00:01:07:19

Wait, not too high. It has to go horizontal.

 

0006            00:01:14:00            00:01:18:20

We're pushing too much on one side.

It has to be more upright.

 

0007            00:01:24:22            00:01:27:18

To say goodbye is to die a little.

 

0008            00:01:32:02            00:01:37:23

Autumn has come and the beach animals

will migrate to the interior of the country.

 

0009            00:01:58:13            00:02:01:22

I've learnt a lot this summer.

 

0010            00:02:04:02            00:02:07:01

I've been at this beach all summer...

 

0011            00:02:07:04            00:02:10:14

..and this year's animal

will soon be declared a fossil.

 

0012            00:02:21:03            00:02:25:23

Migrating inland, and in spring

migrating back to the beach.

 

0013            00:02:26:01            00:02:29:19

It's like an perpetually recurring movement.

 

0014            00:03:29:03            00:03:31:00

This is going wrong.

 

0015            00:03:33:22            00:03:35:20

Yes, push it out.

 

0016            00:03:39:01            00:03:31:11

Let's dump it over there.

 

0017            00:03:47:09            00:03:49:20

Right. One down.

 

0018            00:03:52:00            00:03:55:16

Everyone will die. My parents simply told me.

 

0019            00:03:57:13            00:04:01:01

So I was going to die too, apparently.

 

0020            00:04:01:04            00:04:03:18

This was incredibly disappointing to me.

 

0021            00:04:04:21            00:04:07:18

That life would one day end.

 

0022            00:04:08:14            00:04:11:03

I thought it would just go on.

 

0023            00:04:15:08            00:04:20:06

I was about 3 or 4 years old, I think.

I could already talk.

 

0024            00:04:20:09            00:04:24:18

I remember looking at the blue sky

and them saying: You will die too.

 

0025            00:04:26:05            00:04:28:22

I wasn't too upset about my parents.

 

0026            00:04:29:16            00:04:34:15

But the fact that I too would die,

was a huge blow to me.

 

0027            00:05:54:11            00:05:57:02

Mr. Satomi, Vice Governor of Nagasaki.

 

0028            00:06:09:18            00:06:12:24

Mr. Ueda Taicho, Chairman of

the Japan-Netherlands Association.

 

0029            00:06:18:24            00:06:22:05

Is everybody ready?

 

0030            00:06:29:14            00:06:33:22

The Theo Jansen exhibition

"The Creature of the Dune" is open!

 

0031            00:06:55:05            00:06:58:23

Thank you very much.

 

0032            00:07:05:00            00:07:06:10

Thank you.

 

0033            00:07:44:23            00:07:49:24

I hope you will like this exhibition

and will learn something from it.

 

0034            00:07:50:02            00:07:54:13

Maybe you can find your own materials

to make something at home.

 

0035            00:07:54:16            00:08:01:22

Materials you find in your own environment.

 

0036            00:08:06:03            00:08:08:21

Thank you very much.

 

0037            00:08:47:24            00:08:50:10

To a child, I'm a kind of wizard.

 

0038            00:08:51:13            00:09:52:23

A magician.

 

0039            00:08:56:16            00:08:59:12

And to adults, I'm...

 

0040            00:09:02:02            00:09:04:14

I'm creating a new nature.

 

0041            00:09:06:06            00:09:09:07

I'm adding a new animal species to the world.

 

0042            00:09:11:04            00:09:13:14

I act as if I were God.

 

0043            00:09:16:00            00:09:19:16

Curiously, people like to go along

with this fantasy.

 

0044            00:09:20:15            00:09:22:18

They go along with my dream.

 

0045            00:09:28:09            00:09:31:22

A man making his fantastic creatures walk.

 

0046            00:09:32:00            00:09:33:19

This man is Theo Jansen.

 

0047            00:09:33:22            00:09:36:19

And he calls his creations "beach animals".

 

0048            00:09:38:18            00:09:43:17

Forgive me my lack of modesty, but when

you create evolution anew, you are a Creator.

 

0049            00:09:44:00            00:09:47:01

People wanna put everything in boxes

I just do what I do.

 

0050            00:09:47:08            00:09:51:14

People call it art,or they call it science

or they call it technology

 

0051            00:09:53:05            00:09:56:06

Wow! I see it walking on the beach.

 

0052            00:09:06:09            00:09:59:10

Fantastic! It's just like an animal.

 

0053            00:09:59:13            00:10:02:02

It rattles and it walks.

 

0054            00:10:02:12            00:10:05:14

Excuse me, what is this?

 

0055            00:10:05:17            00:10:09:04

It's a "Strandbeest", a beach creature.

 

0056            00:10:09:07            00:10:13:15

Wow, so strange and mysterious.

 

0057            00:10:38:18            00:10:42:20

These tubes are always protesting.

 

0058            00:10:45:24            00:10:49:05

They never want to do

what I want them to do.

 

0059            00:10:50:15            00:10:53:07

The route is unpredictable.

 

0060            00:10:58:23            00:11:01:11

So rather than being an artist...

 

0061            00:11:01:14            00:11:77:21

...I'm really a slave to the tubes' commands.

 

0062            00:11:11:21            00:11:14:20

Basically I'm doing

what the real Creator did.

 

0063            00:11:15:21            00:11:19:12

He only used proteins to create nature.

 

0064            00:11:42:09            00:11:46:13

I started using PVC tubes

because they were readily available.

 

0065            00:11:47:23            00:11:49:08

Cheap.

 

0066            00:11:52:04            00:11:56:08

And I wanted to use nothing but PVC tubes.

 

0067            00:12:08:01            00:12:10:04

This is the general idea.

 

0068            00:12:10:07            00:12:15:20

It needs some directional pieces of string

to ensure it hits this peg here...

 

0069            00:12:15:23            00:12:17:20

...knocking it into the ground.

 

0070            00:12:19:09            00:12:22:14

I want to make them all as light as possible...

 

0071            00:12:23:23            00:12:27:24

...but sometimes there are restrictions.

 

0072            00:12:35:05            00:12:37:10

I will fill this head with sand...

 

0073            00:12:39:03            00:12:44:00

...using beach material as body material.

 

0072            00:12:45:03            00:12:48:18

There will be four of these hammers

on either side of the animal...

 

0074            00:12:48:21            00:12:51:18

...meant to protect it against gales.

 

0075            00:13:07:02            00:13:08:10

This is the Suspendisse.

0076            00:13:08:12            00:13:09:05

Wow

0077            00:13:12:10            00:13:13:03

Looks awesome

0078            00:13:17:06            00:13:18:02    

Wow, this.…

0078            00:13:18:22            00:13:20:13

…this is the new beast.

0079            00:13:24:18            00:13:25:07

Oh, my god.

0080            00:13:27:14            00:13:28:06

It looks incredible right?

0081            00:13:29:07            00:13:31:10

When the wind comes from the front

they start to move.

0082            00:13:41:15            00:13:42:06

Wow.

 

0083            00:13:43:22            00:13:44:10

Awesome!

 

0084            00:47:00:00            00:13:51:06

I love the way it is working with the architecture here.

 

0085            00:13:55:17            00:13:57:18

So how much longer will he get, suspense?

 

0086            00:13:58:23            00:14:01:05

That’s it, this is it.

0087            00:14:07:23            00:14:12:18

Theo's work is not widely known

in the context of museums en galleries.

0088            00:14:13:16            00:14:17:04

I mean the work kind of exists

as a YouTube phenomena.

0089            00:14:19:10            00:14:26:03

It hasn’t so much existed in the usual kind

of commercial gallery art fair nexus.

 

0090            00:14:27:06            00:14:32:09

And so for a museum to take on the level

of commitment that this takes.

 

0091            00:14:33:16            00:14:40:10

You know 3 to 4 years of work by a lot of different levels of the organization.

 

0092            00:14:41:22            00:14:45:13

For an artist who hasn’t had that,

 

0093            00:14:47:13            00:14:49:05

you know, who really come from a different realm,

 

0094            00:14:50:07            00:14:54:14

is really something major. 

0095            00:15:01:02            00:15:04:02

The idea of doing the thing outdoors

0096            00:15:04:16            00:15:09:00

with a living animal and the fossils

in the Drawing Centre would be a great idea I think

0097            00:15:10:02            00:15:11:23

It feels right to me.

0098            00:15:13:24            00:15:19:20

So we have New York, let’s summarize,

Chicago, Miami Basel,

0099            00:15:20:06            00:15:22:05

San Francisco, Quebec...

0100            00:15:23:17            00:15:27:10

PEM, The Peabody Essex Museum in...

- Boston. Six venues.

0101            00:15:28:16            00:15:34:02

So the idea would be so that we would have

a kind of a launch of the tour…

 

0102            00:15:34:05            00:15:35:16

….if you will a kind of teaser….

 

0103            00:15:37:19            00:15:40:09

...in Miami, with Art Basel.

0104            00:15:43:00            00:15:45:06

Touch, chipboard.

0105            00:15:46:23            00:15:48:19

Chipboard is OK. This is wood.

0105            00:16:24:00            00:16:27:22

You know the eternal life of the strandbeest

is a dream of eternal motion.

 

0107            00:16:30:10            00:16:34:16

You know walking from one end of the beach to the other

kind of marking out time and tide.

0108            00:16:37:10            00:16:38:23

I think that is such a beautiful idea.

0109            00:16:45:00            00:16:49:02

These impossible quests

we set ourselves as human beings..

 

0110            00:16:50:12            00:16:52:03

..is sometimes what keeps us going.

0111            00:16:55:09            00:16:57:23

One ticket, please.

- That will be 6.50 euros.

 

0112            00:16:59:01            00:17:03:14

So that's 23 plus 13, makes 36.

- That's expensive!

 

0113            00:17:08:00            00:17:11:06

One, two, three. Is it working?

Yes, it's working.

 

0114            00:17:11:24            00:17:16:03

Ladies and gentlemen,

I'd like to welcome you...

 

0115            00:17:16:06            00:17:19:19

...to the big beach animals exhibition.

 

0116            00:17:22:01            00:17:26:18

I'm going to explain to you about

the reproduction of the beach animals.

 

0117            00:17:28:06            00:17:31:22

This is the cycle of my life

and that of the beach animals:

 

0118            00:17:32:00            00:17:36:03

In the autumn I start on a new beach animal.

 

0119            00:17:36:06            00:17:40:22

In the spring it's finished, like this one,

although this one isn't quite finished.

 

0120            00:17:41:00            00:17:45:08

Then they go to the beach and I experiment

with them all through the summer.

 

0121            00:17:45:11            00:17:50:08

Then in the autumn, when the experiments

have or haven't been successful...

 

0122            00:17:50:11            00:17:54:04

...but have taught me a lot in either case...

 

0123            00:17:54:07            00:17:57:14

...I declare the animal to be extinct...

 

0124            00:17:57:17            00:18:01:18

...and I start on a new animal, based on

the knowledge gained over the summer.

 

0125            00:18:01:21            00:18:04:07

This has been going on for many years.

 

0126            00:18:08:02            00:18:09:19

Thank you.

 

0127            00:18:12:08            00:18:17:07

This year I want to concentrate on

weathering the storms on the beach.

 

0128            00:18:17:10            00:18:21:16

Over the past few years,

storms have been pretty destructive.

 

0129            00:18:21:19            00:18:26:20

I'm fed up with digging them out

and repairing them every time.

 

0130            00:19:08:03            00:19:10:22

I started with the beach creatures in 1990.

 

0131            00:19:13:09            00:19:17:17

People ask me why I started

and I have no idea.

 

0132            00:19:20:12            00:19:25:01

I think every human being has to invent

a story to make their life happy.

 

0133            00:19:36:20            00:19:39:02

This one is being squeezed together.

 

0144            00:19:39:05            00:19:41:20

It's being crushed.

 

0145            00:19:49:15            00:19:52:16

I'm clumsy, I'm not smart.

 

0146            00:19:54:02            00:19:56:13

There's a magical element...

 

0147            00:19:56:16            00:20:01:00

...to my work that captivates people.

 

0148            00:20:01:03            00:20:04:01

I myself don't understand how I did it.

 

0149            00:20:30:20            00:20:34:04

Suppose it survives the end of this week...

 

0150            00:20:35:05            00:20:39:15

...if I can come up with a mechanism

that keeps its nose in the wind at all times...

 

0151            00:20:41:01            00:20:43:07

...and it's fixed at the front...

 

0152            00:20:44:03            00:20:46:14

...then it will survive the storms.

 

0153            00:20:47:09            00:20:49:08

Which would be great.

 

0154            00:20:56:02            00:20:57:21

A bit to the left.

 

0155            00:20:58:23            00:21:01:00

Steady as she goes.

 

0156            00:21:24:12            00:21:27:08

You could see my beach animals as children.

 

0157            00:21:29:18            00:21:33:11

I'm hoping they will eventually

be able to survive on the beach.

 

0158            00:21:45:00            00:21:5:17

I would need a couple of million years

to achieve this.

 

0159            00:22:2:00            00:22:08:19

But I can imagine someone

looking at it from the outside saying:

 

0160            00:22:08:22            00:22:11:23

My God, this man must be really naive.

 

0161            00:22:12:01            00:22:15:24

Where does he get this optimism from?

 

0162            00:22:37:24            00:22:42:11

Theo Jansen

<The Great Pretender>

 

0163            00:23:05:00            00:23:08:17

My daily failures at the beach...

 

0164            00:23:08:20            00:23:11:04

...can really annoy me.

 

0165            00:23:10:07            00:23:16:05

When I have an idea and I'm trying

to execute it, I'm still quite happy.

 

0166            00:23:16:08            00:23:21:19

But at a certain point it becomes clear

that the idea isn't going to work...

 

0167            00:23:21:22            00:23:26:08

...because reality is opposing me,

is resisting.

 

0168            00:23:34:21            00:23:38:12

Then the inclination is to get downhearted.

 

0169            00:23:40:18            00:23:42:05

And that's what I do.

 

0170            00:23:44:02            00:23:46:11

But the next day I wake up again...

 

0171            00:23:46:14            00:23:50:10

...and I'm glad it went wrong, really...

 

0172            00:23:50:13            00:23:55:24

...because I know

that all the setbacks I encounter...

 

0173            00:23:56:02            00:23:58:02

...will be turned around.

 

0174            00:24:00:16            00:24:05:01

This is an art that my mother taught me.

 

0175            00:24:07:17            00:24:09:23

That's what keeps me going.

 

0176            00:24:12:18            00:24:17:13

She always managed

to turn negative things around somehow.

 

0177            00:24:27:02            00:24:28:22

What is this, Theo?

 

0178            00:24:29:00            00:24:30:18

It's a painting machine.

 

0179            00:24:30:21            00:24:36:13

It makes images of objects

you put in front of a wall.

 

0180            00:24:39:11            00:24:45:02

I'm attaching it to the mechanism

that will move it along the wall.

 

0181            00:24:46:18            00:24:51:06

So it can paint on the wall.

 

0182            00:24:51:09            00:24:56:16

Through this tube it can see

the variations in light...

 

0183            00:24:56:19            00:24:59:12

...translating them into lines on the wall.

 

0183            00:25:02:08            00:25:06:09

I've also done projects

that were like inventions.

 

0184            00:25:08:00            00:25:09:09

They were of no use.

 

0185            00:25:11:21            00:25:16:00

The only result was a work of art.

 

0186            00:25:33:03            00:25:35:13

That happens to me every time.

 

0187            00:25:35:16            00:25:40:00

I'm trying to make a fortune

by inventing things.

 

0188            00:25:40:03            00:25:45:18

Then it turns out the thing is outdated

or it doesn't work the way it should.

 

0189            00:25:45:21            00:25:48:24

But it does work as art.

 

0190            00:25:51:17            00:25:54:07

The artist hidden inside me...

 

0191            00:25:54:10            00:25:57:16

...does these things secretly.

 

0192            00:26:00:09            00:26:02:07

My first wife.

 

0193            00:26:02:10            00:26:05:03

She's in the box of inventions?

 

0194            00:26:05:06            00:26:07:14

Yes, I don't know how she got in there.

 

0195            00:26:09:15            00:26:14:02

This was when I studied in Delft. Physics.

 

0196            00:26:15:10            00:26:17:05

Did you finish your studies?

 

0197            00:26:17:08            00:26:20:15

No, I didn't. I became an artist instead.

 

0198            00:26:27:17            00:26:31:17

When did you make these?

- When I was 13 or 14 years old.

 

0199            00:26:32:19            00:26:35:05

We had books with pictures

of aircraft at home...

 

0200            00:26:35:08            00:26:38:00

...and I was always leafing through them.

 

0201            00:26:39:08            00:26:41:15

There was a great shortage of pilots.

 

0202            00:26:41:18            00:26:47:03

High school students could

train to fly a glider almost for free.

 

0203            00:26:47:19            00:26:49:21

So I did. Look.

 

0204            00:26:50:13            00:26:52:08

This was the size of the thing.

 

0205            00:26:54:08            00:26:58:24

I thought it would be great

to be able to take off from the beach...

 

0206            00:26:59:02            00:27:02:08

...and float over the city.

 

0207            00:27:02:11            00:27:07:22

Waving haughtily to the people below:

I can fly and you can't.

 

0208            00:27:08:06            00:27:09:19

Look at me!

 

0209            00:27:16:00            00:27:21:05

So I bought something in the USA,

a parachute with an engine.

 

0210            00:27:22:24            00:27:26:00

I would ask a farmer for permission...

 

0211            00:27:26:03            00:27:77:23

...and I would take off.

 

0212            00:28:33:17            00:28:36:13

I wasn't such a good pupil at primary school.

 

0213            00:28:38:11            00:28:42:07

I'd be staring out the window.

I was an observer.

 

0214            00:28:43:21            00:28:47:24

I was the eleventh child, number eleven.

 

0215            00:28:48:02            00:28:50:20

I was mother's boy.

 

0216            00:28:50:23            00:28:53:11

I wasn't a rebel at all.

 

0217            00:28:53:14            00:28:57:22

Compared to other kids

I was a very good boy.

 

0218            00:28:58:00            00:29:00:06

And I still am today.

 

0219            00:29:00:09            00:29:04:20

I think it's because there were never

any fights in the family, or rarely.

 

0220            00:29:04:23            00:29:08:16

It's not always good, of course,

you may get taken for granted.

 

0221            00:29:08:19            00:29:12:07

Did that give you problems?

- Yes, it's happened to me.

 

0222            00:29:12:10            00:29:13:19

In what way?

 

0223            00:29:17:13            00:29:18:18

Well...

 

0224            00:29:19:24            00:29:22:00

In a marriage, of course.

 

0225            00:29:23:18            00:29:26:03

If you always give in...

 

0226            00:29:26:06            00:29:30:15

...you may end up with nothing.

 

0227            00:29:33:11            00:29:35:19

It was hard sometimes.

 

0228            00:29:37:08            00:29:42:07

Fortunately I've forgotten all the details,

but it can become pretty nasty...

 

0229            00:29:43:15            00:29:46:20

...when both of you are under pressure...

 

0230            00:29:46:23            00:29:49:21

...to try and defend your territory.

 

0231            00:29:53:05            00:29:56:08

At the time, the children were...

 

0232            00:29:56:11            00:29:59:20

...about 17, 14 or 15.

 

0233            00:30:03:24            00:30:08:02

Then my wife Lia told me...

 

0234            00:30:08:05            00:30:12:16

...to go and live in my studio.

She didn't want me around anymore.

 

0235            00:30:12:19            00:30:16:16

I thought: I'm not going to do that.

Why should I?

 

0236            00:30:16:19            00:30:22:11

But lying in bed that night I thought:

Why shouldn't I? It would be great.

 

0237            00:30:23:04            00:30:25:18

I can work whenever I want to.

 

0238            00:30:30:16            00:30:32:12

And I was so happy.

 

0239            00:30:33:03            00:30:35:21

I thought: Why didn't I do this before?

 

0240            00:30:38:17            00:30:40:14

I went home each weekend.

 

0241            00:30:41:24            00:30:44:06

I did that for a long time.

 

0242            00:31:27:23            00:31:30:23

I'm actually arranging history.

 

0243            00:31:34:01            00:31:36:00

I'm looking back, in a way...

 

0244            00:31:37:17            00:31:40:12

...at the history of the beach animals.

 

0255            00:31:44:01            00:31:46:01

It's a kind of diary.

 

0256            00:31:48:03            00:31:51:11

Looking at it, I can see

what stage my work was in...

 

0257            00:31:51:14            00:31:54:19

...but also what stage my life was in.

 

0258            00:31:54:22            00:32:00:03

My kids were still small,

which caused a lot of strain.

 

0259            00:32:00:06            00:32:06:02

I wanted to be in two places at the same

time, which is impossible, of course.

 

0260            00:32:08:01            00:32:11:21

Which family was more important?

- I'm reluctant to answer that.

 

0261            00:32:14:13            00:32:17:15

You're afraid one of the two will punish you?

 

0262            00:32:19:05            00:32:21:05

Yes, the other family.

 

0263            00:32:28:13            00:32:30:11

I've never made any choices.

 

0264            00:32:31:23            00:32:36:19

I've always just gone with whatever occurred.

 

0265            00:32:41:07            00:32:43:05

It's in my nature.

 

0266            00:32:44:23            00:32:49:15

Isn't there a danger of being carried along

by the stream...

 

0267            00:32:49:18            00:32:52:02

...when the stream

might not be good for you?

 

0268            00:32:52:05            00:32:54:24

The stream has always been good for me.

 

0269            00:32:58:12            00:33:01:06

I guess I've just been lucky.

 

0270            00:33:02:11            00:33:07:04

Going all the way back to my childhood

when I couldn't become a pilot...

 

0271            00:33:07:07            00:33:09:18

...and I had to choose something else.

 

0272            00:33:09:21            00:33:13:14

All these decisions

that I didn't actually take...

 

0273            00:33:13:17            00:33:16:10

...but that pushed me in a certain direction...

 

0274            00:33:16:13            00:33:21:19

...have always brought me better things

than my original ideas.

 

0275            00:33:33:08            00:33:38:12

My sculptures are made of very light materials

and are powered by the wind.

0276            00:33:41:21            00:33:45:13

A part of me is an engineer who wants to map the progress

of mobility.

0277            00:33:50:13            00:33:51:17

Another part is an artist.

0278            00:33:54:11            00:33:58:02

And always I strive to push

the boundaries of what we know..

 

0279            00:33:58:13            00:34:01:11

..and what seems possible to us at this moment in time.

0280            00:34:03:12            00:34:07:00

The walls between art and engineering

exist only in our minds.

0281            00:34:07:20            00:34:10:08

BMW. Defining innovation.

 

0282            00:34:21:20            00:34:23:19

I started the project of the tour.

0283            00:34:25:13            00:34:30:05

I actually started the whole thing.

That is for sure, I have to claim that.

0284            00:34:32:00            00:34:32:23

But is was easy.

0285            00:34:34:02            00:34:37:16

I just started sending his photographs to people

to promote Theo.

0286            00:34:42:09            00:34:42:23

Excellent.

0287            00:34:45:08            00:34:47:00

OK, go ahead.

0288            00:34:48:21            00:34:51:15

Strandbeests are very much Dutch art.

0289            00:34:52:11            00:34:57:02

And I am not sure that I care if strandbeests fit

into contemporary art world.

0290            00:34:58:10            00:35:01.04

If contemporary art world is smart enough

they should catch up.

0291            00:35:01:15            00:35:08:14

There is something I really like the way the dunes look

and your hair, I want us to go closer.

0292            00:35:09:19            00:35:13:23

This is a monopoly game between dealers, buyers..

0292            00:35:15:09            00:35:17:08

..and unfortunately museums.

0293            00:35:18:07            00:35:20:15

There used to be a hole in there but now, oh my god!

0294            00:35:21:09            00:35:26:03

The problem is that Theo doesn’t participate 

in that monopoly game of contemporary artworld.

0295            00:35:26:04            00:35:27:04

I don’t either.

0296            00:35:29:12            00:35:32:18

They are routines, they are rituals

you have to have to be part of.

 

0297            00:35:24:00            00:35:39:09

It has to do with even framing of yourself

of captioning your work..

0298            00:35:39:22            00:35:41:19

..captioning yourself.

0299            00:35:42:15            00:35:50:03

Of understanding relationships,

of participating in these relationships..

0300            00:35:51:20            00:35:55:04

..and knowing how to play

and knowing how to bluff.

0301            00:35:57:07            00:36:01:00

And I think both Theo and I

are kind if straight shooters..

 

0302            00:36:02:21            00:36:04:10

..we are not good at that stuff frankly.

0303            00:36:16:15            00:36:23:01

There's been a lot of interest from ordinary

people, but not so much from the art world.

 

0301            00:36:27:24            00:36:31:00

Which was a little disappointing.

 

0302            00:36:32:24            00:36:35:19

Do you resent that?

- A little, yes.

 

0304            00:36:39:03            00:36:42:11

Because my work is associated

with engineering.

 

0305            00:36:42:14            00:36:48:16

Like: "This man studied at a technological

university, so he can't be an artist."

 

0306            00:36:52:20            00:36:56:13

I'd love to have an exhibition

at the Tate Modern, for instance...

 

0307            00:36:56:16            00:36:59:22

...or at the Amsterdam Stedelijk Museum.

 

0308            00:37:00:00            00:37:04:17

Or the Maastricht Bonnefantenmuseum or

even the Gemeentemuseum in The Hague.

 

0309            00:37:15:14            00:37:18:22

It would be great if this exhibition in Miami...

 

0310            00:37:19:00            00:37:23:22

...led to more recognition in Holland.

 

0311            00:37:26:15            00:37:28:07

In my own country.

 

0312            00:37:29:08            00:37:31:19

My native country, my fatherland.

 

0313            00:38:08:15            00:38:12:20

An American billionaire

asked me to make a work of art.

 

0314            00:38:14:06            00:38:16:07

The first ideas.

 

0315            00:38:17:00            00:38:22:18

So I suggested making

a huge rhinoceros-like beast...

 

0316            00:38:22:21            00:38:28:23

...20 metres tall

and weighing at least 50 tons...

 

0317            00:38:29:22            00:38:34:00

...yet still able to walk powered by wind.

 

0318            00:38:34:03            00:38:36:22

It's like a walking house.

 

0319            00:38:39:13            00:38:43:12

Rhinoceros in the desert.

- So it's a huge project?

 

0320            00:38:43:20            00:38:48:00

It will cost at least ten million dollars,

as far as we can tell now.

 

0321            00:38:50:10            00:38:52:15

This is a dream I've always had.

 

0322            00:38:52:18            00:38:56:21

So it opened the door for me.

I thought: This will be my chance...

 

0323            00:38:56:24            00:39:01:05

...to realize this within my lifetime...

 

0324            00:39:01:08            00:39:04:02

...building such a huge thing.

 

0325            00:39:27:02            00:39:32:18

20 metres tall, just imagine, that's

really gigantic. And for this to walk.

 

0326            00:39:35:03            00:39:38:06

That's bigger than a dinosaur.

 

0327            00:39:38:09            00:39:42:08

So even in a historical sense it's massive.

 

0328            00:39:43:08            00:39:50:00

And in terms of importance

in the history of evolution...

 

0329            00:39:52:12            00:39:56:16

...I think this could be world news.

 

0330            00:40:00:21            00:40:04:10

I'm not sure if he wants

this more open construction...

 

0331            00:40:04:23            00:40:08:00

...which makes it look a bit friendlier.

 

0332            00:40:08:03            00:40:12:09

So I sent him this video,

showing an open construction walking...

 

0333            00:40:19:17            00:40:22:07

...and the same construction closed.

 

0334            00:40:56:12            00:40:58:22

This has to be impressive.

 

0335            00:41:00:00            00:41:03:05

This is my chance to leave a monument

on this earth.

 

0336            00:41:03:08            00:41:06:16

Like those French presidents.

I've got that too.

 

0337            00:41:06:19            00:41:11:16

I've been stricken with the same disease.

 

0338            00:41:33:08            00:41:38:24

It was wonderful to have this freedom

to be able to work during the week.

 

0339            00:41:45:07            00:41:49:06

And I continued to live separately,

as it suited me really well.

 

0340            00:41:52:02            00:41:54:18

But at a certain point…

 

0341            00:41:54:21            00:42:00:14

...Lia didn't want me to come around

at the weekend anymore.

 

0342            00:42:05:14            00:42:07:11

So then we divorced.

 

0343            00:42:13:02            00:42:17:07

That's when I rented a flat

here in Scheveningen.

 

0344            00:42:18:16            00:42:20:20

Not far from where I grew up.

 

0345            00:42:21:11            00:42:23:03

Right on the beach.

 

0346            00:42:30:15            00:42:34:08

Returning to my place of origin...

 

0347            00:42:35:02            00:42:37:01

...has had a great impact.

 

0348            00:42:40:18            00:42:44:08

I'm re-experiencing my childhood.

 

0349            00:43:50:13            00:43:53:00

OK done let’s get the next one.

 

0350            00:43:59:13            00:44:03:04

You would always have a couple of people

demonstrating strandbeests,

 

0351            00:44:03:07            00:44:09:19

One to demonstrate, one to take care of maintenance.

 

0352            00:44:09:20            00:44:12:11

Oh yes of course it is very complex.

0353            00:44:13:12            00:44:17:22

And it is your first tour of the US,

solotour of the strandbeests.

0354            00:44:19:11            00:44:21:07

Here will be the strandbeests parading.

0355            00:44:22:11            00:44:25:15

So these are the connections between the Westside of Manhattan..

 

0356            00:44:26:04            00:44:27:23

..to the Eastside of Manhattan.

0357            00:44:28:14            00:44:32:07

Everyone will come both from the Eastside

and the Westside..

 

0358            00:44:33:01            00:44:36:17

..will come to our waterfront.

This is where we will be.

0359            00:44:36:19            00:44:40:20

It will never be less beautiful when you come

for the tour.

0360            00:44:42:04            00:44:45:13

And it is thrilling to have the partnership

with Peabody Essex Museum..

0361            00:44:46:17            00:44:52.12

..to really bring the artistic and the meaning of what

the strandbeests are to us..

 

0362            00:44:53:08            00:44:59:16

..as objects, as science, as engineering, as beauty,

and then art.

0363            00:44:59:23            00:45:02:07

It is a good idea because we have strandbeests enough,

 

0364            00:45:02:23            00:45:06:11

I mean there are 22 containers full of strandbeests and fossils.

0365            00:45:07:12            00:45:10:05

We have lots of strandbeests to put here.

0366            00:45:23:11            00:45:25:24

New York is the top of the world, of course.

 

0367            00:45:31:23            00:45:33:22

Yes, that would be fantastic.

 

0368            00:45:35:03            00:45:37:20

What artist wouldn't think so?

 

0369            00:45:51:11            00:45:57:10

Even if this trip wouldn’t end in a succes

then I open my own museum on the beach.

 

0370            00:45:58:00            00:45:59:02

That’s a good idea.

 

0371            00:45:59:21            00:46:06:03

I call it just the biggest museum of the world

and how many square meters is that on my beach.

 

0372            00:46:06:17            00:46:09:21

You love being on the beach?

Yes so I can on the beach..

 

0373            00:46:09:24            00:46:12:22

..and on Google maps it’s already called

Theo Jansen beach

 

0374            00:46:13:07            00:46:15:06

Really? I didn’t know that.

Yes.

 

0375            00:46:15:09            00:46:16:06

Are you serious?

Yes.

 

0376            00:46:17:23            00:46:19:08

In Scheveningen?

In Scheveningen yes.

 

0377            00:46:20:13            00:46:21:10

Oh my god.

Yes.

 

0378            00:46:23:05            00:46:26:10

The US can come to Europe

and visit my museum on the beach.

 

0379            00:46:48:02            00:46:50:10

I think tonight will be crucial.

 

0380            00:46:51:01            00:46:54:18

It's not just any old people..

 

0381            00:46:54:22            00:46:57:23

...that gets invited to a night like this.

 

0382            00:46:58:24            00:47:01:21

So I'm afraid I'm going to have to sell myself.

 

0383            00:47:05:00            00:47:09:12

We also want to set up an area

where people can understand the evolutionary principles..

 

0384            00:47:10:13            00:47:13:07

..as we all evolve to a changing environment.

 

0385            00:47:14:05            00:47:17:10

It has been so marvelous working with you so far Theo

and Lena..

 

0386            00:47:17:20            00:47:21:15

..and we are really looking forward to the next steps

on this journey.

0387            00:47:23:00            00:47:23:22

Likewise.

0388            00:47:32:15            00:47:40:08

In a lot of your creations you use sails

What is the purpose of the sails?

0389            00:47:41:22            00:47:48:02

In the case that the sails they pump,

so they pump up the air in the bottles..

0390            00:47:49:03            00:47:53:13

..but they also catch the wind and they walk

in the same direction of the wind.

0391            00:47:55:16            00:47:57:10

Like a sailboat?

Just like a sailboat yes.

0392            00:47:58:08            00:48:02:10

And they are connected with these pumps

and they pump air into soda bottles..

 

0393            00:48:02:20            00:48:03:20

..to high pressure.

0394            00:48:04:18            00:48:09:09

And you can use this energy for all kind of things,

so they can walk even when the wind is gone.

0395            00:48:16:15            00:48:23:00

This is the beginning of the brain of the beach animals.

The animal can take decisions on the beach.

0396            00:48:23:23            00:48:26:00

It can count its steps

so it knows where it is on the beach

0397            00:48:27:05            00:48:30:20

And now is the idea that they just walk with the wind

parallel to the coast..

0398            00:48:31:16            00:48:34:16

..as far as they can go, usually the harbor stops them.

 

0399            00:48:35:16            00:48:40:13

Then they have to wait until the wind has turned

and then they run back on the Dutch coast.

0400            00:48:41:05            00:48:44:05

And they can do it in their own before I die I would say.

0401            00:48:55:23            00:48:59:11

When did you create your first working strandbeest?

0402            00:49:00:20            00:49:01:22

I still have to do that.

0403            00:49:05:01            00:49:06:21

Because every time I work on problems..

0404            00:49:08:13            00:49:16:03

..the walking problem is more or less solved now

and also the pumping problem, the feeling problem..

0405            00:49:17:22            00:49:22:23

..but to make it operational as a working beast on the beach is still in the future..

0406            00:49:25:05            00:49:26:14    

..because I have to nurse them all the time.

 

0407            00:49:34:18            00:49:40:03

Today I want to see how the animal behaves

in the sea. I've never done that before.

 

0408            00:49:41:16            00:49:45:15

To see how it's directed by the waves.

 

0409            00:50:01:01            00:50:06:04

The idea, once it enters the water,

is for the waves to direct it...

 

0410            00:50:06:07            00:50:08:20

...back to the shore.

 

0411            00:50:10:22            00:50:16:20

That would be useful. The animals wouldn't

drown during their hikes along the beach.

 

0412            00:50:41:15            00:50:45:05

I don't know what it is about these animals

that makes me happy.

 

0413            00:50:46:12            00:50:51:06

They're an illusion,

leaving me with a blissful feeling.

 

0414            00:50:55:19            00:50:57:21

There goes a leg.

 

0415            00:51:13:12            00:51:16:20

I believe in something and...

 

0416            00:51:17:19            00:51:19:10

...I can't help it.

 

0417            00:51:19:13            00:51:24:10

It's not that I don't want to see it.

No, I live with this...

 

0418            00:51:24:13            00:51:29:07

...with this belief in these things.

 

0419            00:51:30:13            00:51:34:02

You're not living with a pretend belief?

 

0420            00:51:34:05            00:51:37:01

As if it will happen, as if they will come alive?

 

0421            00:51:37:04            00:51:39:10

That's hard to say.

 

0422            00:51:39:13            00:51:43:17

I have to say there is an element of doubt...

 

0423            00:51:43:20            00:51:46:24

...as to whether or not it's a reality.

 

0424            00:51:48:16            00:51:53:09

In that sense my belief is not that solid.

 

0425            00:51:54:21            00:51:58:20

Obviously certain aspects work,

there's no way around that.

 

0426            00:51:58:23            00:52:03:09

And many aspects don't work,

there's no way around that either.

 

0427            00:52:04:06            00:52:10:14

But it is something I carry on doing,

because it...

 

0428            00:52:13:05            00:52:16:11

...because there's nothing else I can do,

I guess.

 

0429            00:52:22:07            00:52:25:01

The self-deceiver, you could say.

 

0430            00:52:26:14            00:52:30:19

Deceiving myself to make progress,

ultimately.

 

0431            00:52:53:00            00:52:56:16

I don't know if you've noticed,

but I'm a little busy now.

 

0432            00:52:57:21            00:53:00:16

How busy?

- Extremely busy.

 

0433            00:53:01:11            00:53:05:19

Taking on too much, saying yes too often.

 

0434            00:53:07:14            00:53:10:22

Thinking it will be all right, but...

 

0435            00:53:11:00            00:53:13:09

Why is it you say yes too often?

 

0436            00:53:13:12            00:53:17:06

I don't want to disappoint people,

that's my problem.

 

0437            00:53:46:11            00:53:50:02

Trevor, the last piece I didn’t hear, but..

0438            00:53:51:15            00:53:53:13

..I guess you want me to be 3 weeks in the US?

0439            00:53:54:13            00:53:58:06

Yes. We have an installationphase,

we need time to train..

0440            00:53:59:03            00:54:05:16

..we want to do some pop-ups and all the events

and stuff that will go on around the opening.

0441            00:54:06:19            00:54:09:10

It looks we gonna need you here right at the end of August.

0442            00:54:10:12            00:54:11:09

That’s what I thought already.

0443            00:54:12:02            00:54:16:01

But I have my works to do on the beach

in the summer..

 

0444            00:54:17:04            00:54:28:00    

..and I am obliged to myself to keep my work authentic

and not only drift on the succes of my work.

 

0445             00:54:29:20            00:54:39:21

At least could you send me a sort of a schedule?

What else did you have in mind to ask from me?

0446            00:54:40:12            00:54:41:20

Ah, Theo.

0447            00:54:44:00            00:54:49:16

Well this is certainly more than usually you do

with an opening for an exhibition right?

0448            00:54:52:00            00:55:00:00

And I am not sure how I contract wise I am obliged to do this.

Do you?

 

0449            00:55:00:21            00:55:07:14

Here is the thing Theo,

this is requiring like a huge investment on our part..

 

0450            00:55:07:24            00:55:14:04

..also to make this work, for you to make this US tour a huge success.

0451            00:55:14:14            00:55:17:08

Of course I would like to do that as well, but..

0452            00:55:17:11            00:55:23:11

You had sort of proposed an idea that maybe

you would start a new species.

 

0453            00:55:24:12            00:55:26:21

A beast that lives in museums.

 

0454            00:55:28:12            00:55:32:04

We had understood that we would be getting the next new beast..

 

0455            00:55:33:00            00:55:36:21

..and you had a different understanding.

0456            00:55:37:23            00:55:44:14

But the only thing is I cannot promise

that I have 2 new beasts at the end of July.

 

0457            00:55:52:22            00:55:54:10

Yes, the contract.

 

0458            00:55:56:10            00:56:01:06

Seeing it on paper makes it so definitive,

so I got a bit anxious.

 

0459            00:56:03:03            00:56:06:03

I thought: What have I promised this time?

 

0460            00:56:09:05            00:56:12:15

That the animal would start walking

at a certain wind speed...

 

0461            00:56:12:18            00:56:15:01

...while it's only just been born.

 

0462            00:56:16:02            00:56:19:06

So there are still plenty of teething troubles.

 

0463            00:56:47:10            00:56:52:10

The worst case scenario would be that all of

the USA has come to watch the animal...

 

0464            00:56:53:13            00:56:57:03

...and then it fails to walk.

 

0465            00:57:01:18            00:57:03:06

This is all wrong.

 

0466            00:57:07:19            00:57:11:19

Those people only think

about their exhibition, of course.

 

0467            00:57:13:19            00:57:15:24

I have to beware of this.

 

0468            00:57:16:02            00:57:22:18

Of becoming the slave

of all those people working with me...

 

0469            00:57:22:21            00:57:25:21

...to avoid having arguments with them.

 

0470            00:57:26:04            00:57:29:17

Who determine your life?

- Yes.

 

0471            00:57:29:20            00:57:36:17

I have to make sure over the coming years

to keep this balance.

 

0472            00:57:37:17            00:57:40:09

If I don't, I will go under.

 

0473            00:58:02:03            00:58:06:02

I can't hold beach sessions for the public.

 

0474            00:58:08:20            00:58:11:06

It's just too difficult.

 

0475            00:58:18:02            00:58:21:11

The beach animals

can't fulfil such expectations.

 

0476            00:58:25:14            00:58:27:14

And I'm no animal trainer.

 

0477            00:58:30:03            00:58:33:16

It's not like putting my head

in a circus lion's mouth.

 

0478            00:58:36:01            00:58:38:05

Beach animals will bite it off.

 

0479            00:59:04:23            00:59:07:11

Art Basel in Miami Beach is...

0480            00:59:08:20            00:59:13:17

..one the most important meeting places

for what you might call the art world.

0481            00:59:16:00            00:59:23:07

You can buy 10 or 20 million dollar art objects

you can also buy graffiti art.

0482            00:59:25:24            00:59:33:01

So you a lot of the very tough art collectors,

you have curators, gallerists, journalists, media.

0483            00:59:33:23            00:59:37:21

It really is one of the most important

meeting places in the United States.

0484            00:59:46:06            00:59:47:16

I am enjoying it very much.

0485            01:00:48:20            01:00:54:18

Now I have been dreaming of bringing the

strandbeests here to Amerika, for 3 years..

0486            01:00:55:22            01:00:56:20

..Lena 7..

0487            01:00:58:00            01:01:03:12

..but nothing compared to the dream of Theo Jansen,

who has been dreaming strandbeests..

 

0488            01:01:05:00            01:01:06:09

..for almost a quarter of a century.

0489            01:01:08:05            01:01:10:18

Would you please welcome the wonderful Theo Jansen.

0490            01:01:11:08            01:01:14:02

Merci beaucoup, thank you Trevor.

0491            01:01:16:13            01:01:23:17

What you see here is the animal which I worked with last

summer on the beach in Scheveningen in Holland.

0492            01:01:24:10            01:01:29:23

I would like to try to make it live again

for a few moments by letting it walk.

0493            01:01:38:03            01:01:39:15

Let me see what that is.

0494            01:01:42:20            01:01:44:10

Because there is no wind up there.

0495            01:01:55:21            01:01:56:15

Come up.

0496            01:02:14:11            01:02:15:02

That’s wonderful.

0497            01:02:21:16            01:02:24:24

While moving it pumps the air into the bottles.

 

0498            01:02:25:17            01:02:27:07

Which we do now with the compressor.

 

0499            01:02:34:19            01:02:37:13

The beasts wil survive on their own.

 

0500            01:02:40:03            01:02:46:18

I can leave the planet knowing that

I will live on on the beach forever.

 

0501            01:02:47:10            01:02:54:15

And so my ashes will be thrown on that beach

and this is in fact the nucleus of my work.

 

0502            01:03:12:20            01:03:14:08

Look at these nice tubes.

 

0503            01:03:17:05            01:03:19:16

It's truly a monument.

 

0504            01:03:19:19            01:03:23:08

It has the weight of a monument.

 

0505            01:03:24:13            01:03:26:10

It's like a stone...

 

0506            01:03:28:09            01:03:29:18

A gravestone.

 

0507            01:03:33:24            01:03:38:02

I don't want to see this

as the end of my career or my life.

 

0508            01:03:38:05            01:03:41:00

Because it is a kind of retrospective.

 

0509            01:03:41:03            01:03:45:10

Like someone who's about to die and

sees his whole life pass before his eyes.

 

0510            01:04:31:19            01:04:35:22

The last message I got about it

was a couple of months ago.

 

0511            01:04:36:00            01:04:39:20

The business office informed me...

 

0512            01:04:39:23            01:04:44:09

...that the plan was "on hold".

 

0513            01:04:44:12            01:04:46:02

Meaning, in some drawer.

 

0514            01:04:59:09            01:05:03:17

The cockpit was at the front.

So these are all like Star Wars versions.

 

0515            01:05:03:20            01:05:06:10

You could walk on top here.

 

0516            01:05:06:13            01:05:08:18

He was attracted by the megalomania of it.

 

0517            01:05:08:21            01:05:13:18

But as it progressed,

it became less Star Wars-like.

 

0518            01:05:13:21            01:05:19:06

I wanted to create something new,

not associated with those movies.

 

0519            01:05:19:09            01:05:23:10

That may be why he lost interest.

 

0520            01:05:26:06            01:05:27:21

Disappointing.

 

0521            01:06:23:15            01:06:27:00

Not much has happened

since the Miami Art Fair.

 

0522            01:06:28:16            01:06:34:06

They had hoped, following museums

in Chicago and San Francisco...

 

0523            01:06:34:09            01:06:38:09

...to interest museums in cities

like Los Angeles and New York.

 

0524            01:06:40:07            01:06:42:07

But that didn't work out.

 

0525            01:06:44:11            01:06:47:21

Yet those are important cities in the USA.

 

0526            01:06:53:19            01:06:55:19

Of course I dream.

 

0527            01:06:56:21            01:07:01:06

I dream of reaching a lot of people

over there.

 

0528            01:07:03:18            01:07:06:15

But if that turns into a failure...

 

0529            01:07:06:18            01:07:09:21

...it's just a stroke of bad luck.

 

0530            01:07:09:24            01:07:12:22

I'll find another dream.

 

0531            01:07:13:22            01:07:17:18

So the bad stuff just ricochets off you,

it's transformed into...

 

0532            01:07:17:21            01:07:22:11

Into something that was meant to be.

 

0533            01:07:37:09            01:07:39:24

If I look at where it's got me...

 

0534            01:07:40:05            01:07:43:03

...it's not bad at all, a character like mine.

 

0535            01:07:59:09            01:08:01:23

It's never been better than it is now.

 

0536            01:08:05:13            01:08:08:24

After Lia had bought her own home...

 

0537            01:08:09:02            01:08:11:09

...she really started to miss me.

 

0538            01:08:18:05            01:08:20:16

And now we're very happy again.

 

0539            01:08:25:00            01:08:26:17

Yes, it's a fairy tale.

 

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