0001 00:03:36:00 00:03:38:11
I
don't want to be who I have become.
0002 00:03:39:01 00:03:40:20
I
want to be who I was.
0003 00:03:41:19 00:03:43:06
But
who was I?
0004 00:03:48:24 00:03:53:20
VIGGO'S
GHOSTS
0005 00:04:09:24 00:04:11:14
Look
what I've got.
0006 00:04:20:06 00:04:25:08
I'm
54 now. When I was 18,
I
left my family...
0007 00:04:25:11 00:04:27:21
...and
went into crime.
0008 00:04:31:02 00:04:33:02
It
was a life of stress.
0009 00:04:33:05 00:04:39:04
All
I basically did was keep busy
so
I didn't have time to stop and think.
0010 00:04:44:04 00:04:48:01
Not
until I ended up in jail
did
I start thinking about my life.
0011 00:04:48:07 00:04:54:21
Then
I thought...
I've
had a great life, you know.
0012 00:04:54:24 00:04:58:19
But
the more I thought about it,
the
clearer it became to me...
0013 00:04:58:22 00:05:01:15
...that
I didn't have a great life at all, really.
0014 00:05:01:18 00:05:07:14
Lots
of things in my life were great,
but
there was a deep darkness around it.
0015 00:05:19:14 00:05:23:10
If
I want to survive in this world
rather
than the criminal world...
0016 00:05:23:13 00:05:26:06
...I'll
have to find out who I am.
0017 00:05:26:09 00:05:30:21
The
only way I can achieve this
is
by delving into the past.
0018 00:06:05:02 00:06:08:03
You
can't see me behind these blinds.
0019 00:06:08:08 00:06:15:20
But
I can see everything by peeping
through
these slats or behind them.
0020 00:06:15:23 00:06:20:00
If
the dog goes like this, he blows my cover.
0021 00:06:22:04 00:06:26:01
I'm
sure a number of people
will
have discovered my new address.
0022 00:06:29:22 00:06:34:23
I
walk around unarmed now, so there's
little
I can do, should something happen.
0023 00:06:40:18 00:06:42:11
I
just have to be careful.
0024 00:06:44:03 00:06:47:11
The
good thing about this flat is
that
is has more than one exit.
0025 00:06:47:14 00:06:52:05
So
if I realize that someone
is
watching my flat...
0026 00:06:52:08 00:06:56:02
...I
use the exit at the back. Right?
0027 00:07:23:02 00:07:24:02
Loki.
0028 00:07:25:06 00:07:28:01
Oh,
you're such a sly bastard.
0029 00:07:28:16 00:07:32:10
A
funny old man talking to doggies,
how
about that?
0030 00:07:36:05 00:07:40:11
I'm
writing a book,
because
my future lies in my past.
0031 00:07:50:13 00:07:52:23
So
you start with your family.
0032 00:07:53:01 00:07:57:03
Like,
what have I done so far
and
how did it get to this?
0033 00:08:08:18 00:08:11:07
There's
an evil streak in me.
0034 00:08:11:10 00:08:14:12
I've
become a mean, nasty asshole.
0035 00:08:16:09 00:08:18:17
It's
like I pretend I have feelings.
0036 00:08:19:16 00:08:22:12
I'm
acting my feelings.
0037 00:08:24:08 00:08:26:13
Loki,
come here.
0038 00:08:44:09 00:08:48:03
Hey,
we've got a light here.
I'll
come and turn it on.
0039 00:08:48:06 00:08:49:21
I
can't see a thing.
0040 00:08:50:15 00:08:52:00
Kirsten:
Sister
0041 00:08:52:03 00:08:54:15
I
didn't even know this was here.
-
My place is big.
0042 00:08:54:18 00:08:59:07
I've
never seen this before.
It
a real hiding place.
0043 00:08:59:10 00:09:00:20
Something
like that.
0044 00:09:01:19 00:09:03:17
Look,
here.
-
I know this one.
0045 00:09:03:20 00:09:06:15
It's
Penguin!
-
With its moveable tail.
0046 00:09:06:18 00:09:08:05
How
did you get this?
-
Hi there!
0047 00:09:08:08 00:09:13:06
It
was mine, remember?
-
I can't believe you've still got it.
0048 00:09:13:09 00:09:16:12
It
could honk too.
-
The honk has gone.
0049 00:09:18:20 00:09:21:00
I
didn't even know it was here.
0050 00:09:22:04 00:09:24:10
I
recognized it at once.
-
It's mine!
0051 00:09:24:13 00:09:27:16
I
did always wish it was a little softer.
0052 00:09:27:19 00:09:34:13
I
know Vonnie or Ellie used to fix it
and
restuff it over and over again.
0053 00:09:34:16 00:09:36:21
And
it was yours?
-
Yes.
0054 00:09:41:00 00:09:42:22
No,
that's it.
0055 00:09:43:00 00:09:45:20
Guns?
Holsters?
-
What kind of guns?
0056 00:09:45:23 00:09:48:08
Toy
guns, of course.
0057 00:09:52:11 00:09:53:19
God!
0058 00:09:53:22 00:09:56:10
Oh
look. You know this picture?
0059 00:09:56:13 00:09:59:14
My
God, it's Mummy.
I
haven't got one of these.
0060 00:10:00:21 00:10:04:17
It
feels strange to look at her face.
-
Does it?
0061 00:10:05:14 00:10:08:11
These
are audio tapes.
-
And home videos, I think.
0062 00:10:09:02 00:10:15:12
One
of these tapes has Dad telling Tjeerd
and
Bodil that Mummy has died.
0063 00:10:16:16 00:10:18:18
He
recorded that kind of stuff.
0064 00:10:18:21 00:10:21:14
This
is eerie stuff, you know.
0065 00:10:29:12 00:10:31:24
Little
Man Hokkalé
0066 00:11:00:05 00:11:01:18
Our
home was an island...
0067 00:11:01:21 00:11:06:06
...in
the centre of the city. To enter, you
needed
the king's permission: King Dad.
0068 00:11:06:09 00:11:09:17
Thije:
Dad
0069 00:11:10:16 00:11:15:20
At
first we had regular visits
from
tourists and relatives.
0070 00:11:15:23 00:11:21:04
But
as I got older, there were less and less
visitors,
until there were none at all.
0071 00:11:32:19 00:11:35:23
Vonnie
en Ellie are my stepsisters.
0072 00:11:36:01 00:11:40:06
He
left their mother, his first wife,
to
marry my Mum.
0073 00:11:41:09 00:11:43:12
My
Mum had four children:
0074 00:11:44:00 00:11:48:10
Tjeerd,
Kirsten, Viggo and Bodil.
0075 00:11:50:13 00:11:54:13
She
died when I was just one year old.
0076 00:11:55:00 00:11:59:21
Vonnie
and Ellie took on the mother role
and
raised us.
0077 00:12:12:10 00:12:17:04
In<The
Sound of Music>you can see
the
children sitting like this too.
0078 00:12:18:07 00:12:23:18
I
think I felt pretty good at this stage.
It's
all about me, as you can see.
0079 00:12:26:08 00:12:28:19
It
also brings back memories...
0080 00:12:30:23 00:12:33:07
...of
having to have my own way.
0081 00:12:33:21 00:12:37:07
But
I was pushed into that too.
It
had to be that way.
0082 00:12:37:10 00:12:40:08
Pushed
by whom?
-
Mainly by my Dad.
0083 00:12:41:21 00:12:43:01
I
mean...
0084 00:12:44:12 00:12:46:15
He
always favoured my way.
0085 00:12:46:18 00:12:51:06
So
then I started to impose my will
on
the others.
0086 00:12:51:18 00:12:55:08
Now
I can see that they
didn't
have such a great time.
0087 00:12:56:03 00:12:58:19
They
had no choice but to go along with it.
0088 00:13:54:00 00:13:55:00
Look
at this.
0089 00:13:58:13 00:14:02:16
My
Dad must be about 20, 21 here.
0090 00:14:03:10 00:14:05:14
I
look a lot like him.
0091 00:14:07:19 00:14:11:24
Here
he is, filming in the woods.
That's
what he was like.
0092 00:14:12:02 00:14:14:21
He
was always doing things.
0093 00:14:15:19 00:14:19:07
He
did all kinds of stuff.
hiding
in the woods with his...
0094 00:14:19:10 00:14:21:14
Ah,
look.
0095 00:14:25:10 00:14:27:14
I
always went with him.
0096 00:14:28:04 00:14:30:13
And
we came home like this.
0097 00:14:30:16 00:14:33:06
I
really like this picture.
0098 00:14:33:09 00:14:35:12
I
mean, this is...
0099 00:14:35:15 00:14:42:02
This
is not like your average household
with
a couch and a TV and stuff.
0100 00:14:42:05 00:14:44:11
It's
more like a castle.
0101 00:14:45:04 00:14:48:08
Here
we're firing from the window
on
New Year's Eve.
0102 00:14:51:16 00:14:55:03
Yeah,
that was a lot of fun.
0103 00:15:13:15 00:15:15:17
This
is a really nice gun.
0104 00:15:16:21 00:15:19:22
My
Dad got it for his 50th birthday.
0105 00:15:20:23 00:15:22:20
It's
the most recent one.
0106 00:15:24:20 00:15:27:20
We
really did a lot of shooting with it.
0107 00:15:32:14 00:15:39:05
This
is what our front room smelt like.
It
had this smell.
0108 00:15:39:08 00:15:40:19
From
all the guns.
0109 00:15:41:10 00:15:43:08
This
smells so good.
0110 00:15:43:11 00:15:48:17
When
I smell this, I'm 12, 13 years old again
and
back in that room with all those guns.
0111 00:15:48:20 00:15:50:12
It
was different.
0112 00:15:52:15 00:15:56:08
This
set us apart
from
all the other families.
0113 00:15:56:11 00:16:01:16
None
of my friends had homes with
hunting
rifles and guns on the walls.
0114 00:16:03:00 00:16:05:22
Or
went hunting with their Dads.
0115 00:16:06:15 00:16:10:15
But
when I think about it now...
0116 00:16:11:19 00:16:15:24
...it
made us different,
but
it also isolated us.
0117 00:16:16:02 00:16:18:21
This
is what made him so powerful...
0118 00:16:18:24 00:16:22:03
...and
so different and hence so credible...
0119 00:16:23:18 00:16:25:09
...you
know.
0120 00:16:31:16 00:16:34:15
I
later did the same thing with my own guns.
0121 00:16:35:06 00:16:39:10
I
was the first one to own
a
Browning Hi-Power, which was huge.
0122 00:16:40:10 00:16:43:16
If
you're used to normal guns
and
you see a Browning Hi-Power...
0123 00:16:43:19 00:16:46:24
...it's
like moving from a Mini to a truck.
0124 00:16:47:02 00:16:52:13
A
Browning Hi-Power is massive,
it's
a 9 mm pistol, it's really impressive.
0125 00:16:52:16 00:16:55:06
It
was my weapon.
0126 00:16:55:18 00:16:57:16
It
was my preferred weapon.
0127 00:17:13:08 00:17:16:20
When
I was released from prison
I
felt lousy, I had nothing.
0128 00:17:16:23 00:17:20:21
A
lot of people were after me, so
I
had to organize something quickly.
0129 00:17:20:24 00:17:25:20
I
had some people that were prepared
to
act as drug mules, smuggling coke.
0130 00:17:25:23 00:17:29:01
It's
a good way of making a fast buck.
You
invest 2000 or 3000...
0131 00:17:29:04 00:17:32:20
...and
you make 40.000,
and
all you have to pay for is the trip.
0132 00:17:39:23 00:17:42:07
I
wanted to get into bad ways again.
0133 00:17:43:11 00:17:45:23
But
in the end I didn't.
0134 00:17:46:01 00:17:48:16
I
chose to get a job instead.
0135 00:17:52:01 00:17:56:24
If
you say you've got a criminal record
there's
no way you're getting a job.
0136 00:17:57:02 00:17:58:22
So
I just say no.
0137 00:17:59:13 00:18:02:01
If
he makes way, I can pass him.
0138 00:18:02:04 00:18:05:18
As
a port warden, I've got a boat
with
a flashing blue light...
0139 00:18:05:21 00:18:09:24
...but
if people knew about my record,
they'd
faint on the spot.
0140 00:18:10:13 00:18:14:20
I've
had the mayor in my boat
and
aldermen and all kinds of bigwigs.
0141 00:18:14:23 00:18:19:14
Stopping
boats with my flashing blue light
to
check their navigation licences.
0142 00:18:19:17 00:18:21:21
The
very thought gives me a hard-on.
0143 00:18:21:24 00:18:26:23
If
they knew who they were dealing with,
they'd
jump overboard in a flash.
0144 00:18:36:06 00:18:38:21
But
I do miss my previous life.
0145 00:18:42:06 00:18:44:03
I
miss the thrill of it.
0146 00:18:54:07 00:18:55:20
Hi,
it's me.
0147 00:18:57:06 00:19:01:07
Can
you turn on your Skype?
-
I'm turning it on now.
0148 00:19:02:01 00:19:07:01
I'll
Skype you in five minutes,
after
I've plugged in the camera.
0149 00:19:07:24 00:19:11:15
All
right, man.
-
Talk to you in a minute.
0150 00:19:14:12 00:19:17:17
He
used to be my bodyguard,
and
my partner.
0151 00:19:18:07 00:19:20:06
How
are you?
0152 00:19:21:03 00:19:24:18
I
fell ill. I've got a chronic pancreatic infection
0153 00:19:24:21 00:19:29:08
There's
no cure. I'll just have to live
like
a little old man.
0154 00:19:29:11 00:19:30:14
Fuck
it.
-
It's shitty.
0155 00:19:30:17 00:19:34:20
I've
been close to jumping off the roof
a
couple of times.
0156 00:19:34:23 00:19:37:18
You
have to come and
punch
this neighbour guy for me.
0157 00:19:37:21 00:19:39:16
Neighbour?
-
That jerk.
0158 00:19:39:19 00:19:42:17
Next
time you're here, ring his bell.
0159 00:19:42:20 00:19:45:24
No
problem.
-
Just say hello to him.
0160 00:19:46:02 00:19:49:04
I
don't want to meet him again.
-
Is he causing trouble?
0161 00:19:49:07 00:19:51:14
No,
I just don't want to meet him.
0162 00:19:51:17 00:19:57:08
So
tell him to avoid me
if
he sees me walking in the street.
0163 00:19:57:11 00:19:59:14
No
problem, Viggo. Don't worry.
0164 00:19:59:17 00:20:02:21
All
right. Talk to you later.
0165 00:20:02:24 00:20:06:20
Your
health is all-important.
0166 00:20:36:04 00:20:38:14
Jesus!
Are you...
0167 00:20:38:17 00:20:40:16
How
are you?
-
Poorly.
0168 00:20:45:17 00:20:47:10
Everything's
hurting.
0169 00:20:49:00 00:20:50:13
Thank
you.
0170 00:21:28:19 00:21:29:23
Hello?
0171 00:21:33:19 00:21:36:20
Hi,
Von, how are you?
0172 00:21:39:10 00:21:43:05
I'm
really glad you're in this home now.
0173 00:21:45:07 00:21:47:13
Von,
if it hadn't been for you...
0174 00:21:48:08 00:21:52:16
...I
would have jumped off the roof.
If
you hadn't been there...
0175 00:21:53:16 00:21:56:10
...I
really would've jumped off the roof.
0176 00:21:57:21 00:22:01:15
Vonnie:
Sister
0177 00:22:01:21 00:22:04:21
Malnutrition?
Just
when you were doing so well.
0178 00:22:04:24 00:22:07:23
I'd
sent you a card, by the way.
0179 00:22:08:01 00:22:12:21
I
thought I would send you a silly card
to
see if that would work.
0180 00:22:12:24 00:22:18:05
You
were going to come and have dinner
here,
but I guess something came up again.
0181 00:22:19:11 00:22:21:00
I
see.
0182 00:22:22:07 00:22:24:14
Yes,
I understand.
0183 00:22:24:17 00:22:27:05
Have
you got painkillers now?
0184 00:22:28:13 00:22:31:01
Did
you talk to the doctor?
0185 00:22:32:05 00:22:35:07
But
you will have regular checkups, right?
0186 00:22:35:10 00:22:38:21
Bye,
honey.
0187 00:22:40:21 00:22:43:03
How
about that.
0188 00:22:43:06 00:22:45:20
This
is a nice picture of Viggo.
0189 00:22:45:23 00:22:49:20
You
can see how much fun he's having here.
0190 00:22:49:23 00:22:54:19
Click-clack
on the floor, he was
a
"creepy crow", with his little legs.
0191 00:22:54:22 00:22:59:20
When
he went to bed at night,
he
had to wear leg irons.
0192 00:22:59:23 00:23:02:07
He'd
be on his back all night...
0193 00:23:02:10 00:23:07:10
...as
he couldn't move,
because
this had to grow straight again.
0194 00:23:07:13 00:23:08:22
A
sweet little man.
0195 00:23:15:07 00:23:16:23
I
like this picture.
0196 00:23:20:11 00:23:25:04
When
I think back to those days,
my
God, it's unbelievable.
0197 00:23:26:12 00:23:28:04
Our
Dad.
0198 00:23:30:24 00:23:36:00
He
has his... This is a cross
from
the Danish Resistance.
0199 00:24:18:14 00:24:21:17
It
was always cold in our room
in
the morning. Vonnie would shout:
0200 00:24:21:20 00:24:26:04
"Get
up, guys. Bodil, hurry up, it's a quarter
to
seven, time to lay the table."
0201 00:24:26:07 00:24:31:01
The
sliding doors wouldn't open until we were
standing
behind our chairs at the laid table.
0202 00:24:31:04 00:24:33:18
There
were strict waiting rules:
0203 00:24:33:21 00:24:39:12
Stand
straight as a die, look straight ahead,
hands
on the back of the chair, no talking.
0204 00:24:39:15 00:24:42:16
After
five minutes of waiting,
Dad
would finally emerge.
0205 00:24:42:19 00:24:45:16
He
would stand in front of the table
and
look around.
0206 00:24:45:19 00:24:49:22
Slowly
he'd sit down, put his hands
on
the table, and look around again.
0207 00:24:50:00 00:24:52:24
Only
then were we allowed to sit down.
0208 00:24:53:02 00:24:57:20
In<The
Sound of Music>you see the same
thing:
the kids standing behind their chairs.
0209 00:24:57:23 00:25:01:17
I've
seen it.
That's
why I make this comparison.
0210 00:25:01:20 00:25:04:18
I
think they were acting out
<The
Sound of Music.>
0211 00:25:04:21 00:25:10:13
With
the guitars and all. Given the chance
Vonnie
would've burst into song:
0212 00:25:10:16 00:25:15:07
"Do,
a deer, a female deer", with all of us
standing
behind our chairs. Believe me.
0213 00:25:41:17 00:25:44:04
We
were a close-knit family.
0214 00:25:44:07 00:25:49:09
We
used to go on camping holidays
together.
0215 00:25:56:07 00:26:01:09
Of
course we had arguments too, but
when
there was a feeling of togetherness...
0216 00:26:01:12 00:26:05:04
...you'd
think: For the sake of peace
and
a happy home.
0217 00:26:05:22 00:26:11:04
Right,
Von? Just keep smiling and carry on.
0218 00:26:12:20 00:26:13:10
Right.
0219 00:26:33:00 00:26:37:00
Mummy
was my mother, who died
when
I was one year old.
0220 00:26:37:03 00:26:41:20
We've
always been told that
on
her deathbed Mummy asked Vonnie...
0221 00:26:42:07 00:26:47:15
...not
to leave Dad and not to hand us over
to
some stepmother.
0222 00:26:51:06 00:26:53:10
Vonnie
was my Mum.
0223 00:26:53:13 00:26:56:22
She
took care of me.
I
loved Vonnie a lot.
0224 00:26:59:22 00:27:03:17
I
always thought Vonnie was Dad's wife.
0225 00:27:07:12 00:27:12:03
When
I was 12, I started to realize
what
the situation was.
0226 00:27:12:06 00:27:15:14
That
it was a little different
from
what I'd thought.
0227 00:27:15:17 00:27:18:12
the
little Sandman
0228 00:27:18:15 00:27:21:11
with
the umbrella
0229 00:27:21:14 00:27:23:23
puts
all the children sweetly
0230 00:27:24:01 00:27:27:15
in
their little beds
0231 00:27:29:06 00:27:35:08
You
always had the feeling that there
was
a kind of myth in our household.
0232 00:27:35:11 00:27:41:00
No
one mentioned it, but something
was
not quite right in our family.
0233 00:27:42:19 00:27:48:13
I
don't know if I should relate
how
this feeling came about?
0234 00:27:48:16 00:27:50:07
Yes.
-
Yes?
0235 00:27:58:15 00:28:03:00
At
a certain age, as a girl, you have
a
lot of admiration for your Dad.
0236 00:28:03:03 00:28:07:13
All
the more so because he had
a special position in Amsterdam.
0237 00:28:07:16 00:28:11:12
He
was with the Domestic Forces
during
the war.
0238 00:28:11:15 00:28:14:07
And
after the war he was commander of...
0239 00:28:14:10 00:28:19:10
He
was always present
at
commemorations and things.
0240 00:28:19:13 00:28:21:03
But
I'm digressing.
0241 00:28:21:06 00:28:27:15
As
a girl, at a certain age you get
a
lot of admiration for your Dad.
0242 00:28:27:18 00:28:31:13
Your
Dad becomes more than your Dad
as
it were.
0243 00:28:31:16 00:28:34:08
And
then, well...
0244 00:28:34:11 00:28:40:13
It's
a gradual thing.
It
starts off with very small things.
0245 00:28:40:16 00:28:45:06
And
at a certain point
we
started having a relationship.
0246 00:28:45:09 00:28:48:20
How
old were you when it started?
-
Ten years old.
0247 00:28:48:23 00:28:50:24
I'm
sorry?
-
Ten.
0248 00:28:52:09 00:28:54:22
It
was a big secret, at the time.
0249 00:29:22:14 00:29:26:15
There's
so much going through your mind.
It
was your Dad.
0250 00:29:26:18 00:29:32:22
You
were thinking: Maybe it's supposed to be
like
this. You mind gets all confused.
0251 00:30:04:23 00:30:09:22
Then
when I found out it was my sister,
things
changed again.
0252 00:30:15:02 00:30:18:10
My
Dad was just a mean, nasty asshole.
0253 00:30:20:11 00:30:24:17
He
never did anything about it.
Or
he just didn't care.
0254 00:30:30:04 00:30:32:22
Ruining
the lives of all your children.
0255 00:30:33:00 00:30:37:19
Too
much concerned with Vonnie and his
own
willie to see what it was doing to us.
0256 00:30:39:03 00:30:42:17
It
was a game the whole family
ended
up playing along with.
0257 00:30:47:04 00:30:52:18
To
him it was just normal.
He
had no problems with it.
0258 00:30:52:21 00:30:56:00
You
believe things, you start believing things.
0259 00:30:58:01 00:31:00:21
You
accept things. It's your Dad, after all.
0260 00:31:01:23 00:31:03:08
Right?
0261 00:31:04:15 00:31:07:20
All
right. This is what I mean.
0262 00:31:08:22 00:31:13:00
Von
is going to paint her lips.
For
all to see.
0263 00:31:14:03 00:31:17:16
Jesus,
such an old bag!
I
can't believe it.
0264 00:31:59:17 00:32:01:10
You
know, I...
0265 00:32:02:17 00:32:04:23
Sexual
abuse...
0266 00:32:05:01 00:32:08:09
I
can't remember all the things
this
woman says.
0267 00:32:10:21 00:32:13:12
They're
such long, intense talks.
0268 00:32:17:02 00:32:19:20
Wait,
turn it off for a minute.
0269 00:32:19:23 00:32:23:22
I'm
talking rubbish now.
Let's
have a break.
0270 00:32:38:07 00:32:40:01
Good
boy.
0271 00:32:41:04 00:32:44:03
Good
boy. You like that, don't you.
0272 00:32:45:04 00:32:48:00
That's
it. Go get them.
0273 00:32:48:03 00:32:51:23
Go
get them.
We'll
go get them, right?
0274 00:32:52:01 00:32:55:10
All
right, that's enough now.
0275 00:32:55:23 00:32:57:19
Enough.
0276 00:32:59:06 00:33:00:01
Good
boy.
0277 00:33:01:15 00:33:04:12
Come
on, down you go.
0278 00:33:05:13 00:33:09:15
Give
it to me. Give me the ball.
0279 00:33:09:18 00:33:11:20
Go
get the ball!
0280 00:33:15:01 00:33:16:13
Good
boy.
0281 00:33:18:06 00:33:20:13
Come.
And again.
0282 00:33:29:08 00:33:33:03
Tjeerd.
I used to be
scared
to death of Tjeerd.
0283 00:33:33:06 00:33:36:15
Until
I was ten.
He
used to beat me up in the daytime.
0284 00:33:38:17 00:33:42:09
But
at night when he came to our room
to
play these games...
0285 00:33:42:12 00:33:47:21
...he
was very sweet and I felt proud
that
he was so sweet to me.
0286 00:33:48:00 00:33:51:00
But
I felt terribly confused because of it.
0287 00:33:51:03 00:33:55:06
He'd
do all kinds of things to me,
suck
on it and things.
0288 00:33:55:24 00:33:59:15
But
I was so proud and happy
that
he'd chosen me...
0289 00:33:59:18 00:34:02:21
...that
I didn't really mind
when
it was happening.
0290 00:34:02:24 00:34:06:15
I
wasn't like: He's going
to
do dirty things to me again.
0291 00:34:08:22 00:34:15:02
Those
things have caused me
a
lot of damage and hurt and misery.
0292 00:34:19:21 00:34:26:00
I
can't stand people being all sweet
and
lovey-dovey to me.
0293 00:34:26:03 00:34:28:22
It
makes my skin crawl.
0294 00:34:29:21 00:34:31:11
I
still can't stand it.
0295 00:34:31:14 00:34:34:08
I
can do a woman, but she can't...
0296 00:34:34:11 00:34:37:21
If
someone, anyone...
0297 00:34:40:23 00:34:45:05
...were
to fondle my ear or something.
I
know what it feels like.
0298 00:34:45:16 00:34:46:23
No.
0299 00:34:48:02 00:34:50:02
I
still can't bear it.
0300 00:35:11:22 00:35:13:16
Water?
-
Thanks.
0301 00:35:13:19 00:35:16:14
It's
really bad. It's all come back.
0302 00:35:16:17 00:35:19:06
What
has?
-
The fever and everything.
0303 00:35:19:09 00:35:20:23
Why
is that?
-
Don't know.
0304 00:35:21:01 00:35:24:20
Yesterday
I was fine, wasn't I?
-
Absolutely.
0305 00:35:25:17 00:35:27:14
Can
I sit on this?
0306 00:35:29:22 00:35:32:00
I'm
shaking.
-
What did you eat yesterday?
0307 00:35:32:03 00:35:35:05
I
was with you.
-
What did you eat before you came to me?
0308 00:35:35:08 00:35:37:15
Nothing.
-
Nothing? The whole day?
0309 00:35:37:18 00:35:40:12
A
breakfast yoghurt drink.
0310 00:35:41:05 00:35:46:13
So
during the day you hardly
had
anything at all...
0311 00:35:46:16 00:35:48:16
...then
at my place you filled up.
0312 00:35:48:19 00:35:51:03
That's
not smart.
-
I didn't fill up.
0313 00:36:27:03 00:36:32:20
I
liked it when Tjeerd lifted me from my cot
and
gave me a role in the adventure.
0314 00:36:32:23 00:36:36:00
I
accepted it as normal
that
I was soon naked...
0315 00:36:36:03 00:36:40:12
...and
that my little willie got
an
ever bigger part in the play.
0316 00:36:41:02 00:36:44:15
Kirsten
was also naked and had to watch
from
a distance how Tjeerd...
0317 00:36:44:18 00:36:48:20
...in
his role as Master Hypo
was
engaged with my willie.
0318 00:36:48:23 00:36:52:12
Master
Hypo had to teach me
how
you got the feeling.
0319 00:36:52:15 00:36:56:03
You
got it if Master Hypo
sucked
on my willie long enough...
0320 00:36:56:06 00:36:58:13
...and
I tensed up my whole body.
0321 00:36:59:05 00:37:02:09
Kirsten
had nothing you could suck on
or
make hard.
0322 00:37:02:12 00:37:05:03
Obviously
the feeling wasn't for girls.
0323 00:37:05:06 00:37:09:03
Then
Tjeerd turned me towards Kirsten,
so
she had no choice but to watch...
0324 00:37:09:06 00:37:14:20
...gave
me a final massage and said: "Better
luck
next time, little man. Now go to bed."
0325 00:37:14:23 00:37:20:13
Very
sweetly Tjeerd tucked me in and said:
"Don't
tell anyone. No one must know."
0326 00:37:22:05 00:37:23:15
Fuck,
man.
0327 00:37:45:04 00:37:50:05
As
I remember it, the abuse went on
until
I was about 12, 13.
0328 00:37:54:17 00:38:00:13
I
couldn't guard my limits, as my brother was
overstepping
them. My physical limits too.
0329 00:38:00:16 00:38:03:04
So
I didn't matter.
0330 00:38:07:16 00:38:11:08
It's
such an undermining
of
your foundations...
0331 00:38:11:11 00:38:16:18
...that
you have to find all kinds of
survival
techniques and strategies.
0332 00:38:23:23 00:38:28:18
I
think I was, like, anaesthetized
for
the first 40 years of my life.
0333 00:38:28:21 00:38:32:17
I
didn't want to feel my own pain.
0334 00:38:36:21 00:38:43:16
And
it was only through my training as a
psychotherapist
that I "healed" myself.
0335 00:38:45:23 00:38:48:22
Viggo
has lead a completely different life.
0336 00:38:49:00 00:38:51:17
But
we were both damaged.
0337 00:38:53:06 00:38:57:17
He's
coming out of his own stupor,
you
could say.
0338 00:39:25:08 00:39:31:19
When
I got older, Tjeerd started doing it
to
my friends and using me to catch them.
0339 00:39:31:22 00:39:36:24
If
I supplied him with my little friends,
he
would leave me in peace.
0340 00:39:38:21 00:39:43:12
He
was great, he could do anything,
but
on the other hand there were secrets.
0341 00:39:44:15 00:39:47:10
I'm
finding out now
that
it's always like that with me.
0342 00:39:47:13 00:39:51:21
You've
got a great Dad,
but
then again he's not so great.
0343 00:39:51:24 00:39:54:01
You've
got a great brother,
but
then again he's not so great.
0344 00:39:54:04 00:39:56:07
A
great sister, but she's also...
0345 00:39:56:10 00:40:01:02
There's
always a great side
and
a not so great side.
0346 00:40:01:05 00:40:03:09
It's
a difficult balancing act.
0347 00:40:22:13 00:40:24:16
I
blame Tjeerd for certain things...
0348 00:40:24:19 00:40:29:16
...and
I don't blame him for other things,
being
beaten up by Dad as he was.
0349 00:40:36:15 00:40:41:02
Hi,
it's Fajra.
-
Hello. Can you hear me?
0350 00:40:41:05 00:40:45:06
Hello,
it's Fajra.
-
Hi, I need another painkiller.
0351 00:40:45:09 00:40:49:02
I
need another pill.
Will
you come and bring me one?
0352 00:40:50:23 00:40:53:04
What
kind of pill?
-
A painkiller.
0353 00:40:53:07 00:40:56:09
A
painkiller?
-Yes,
OxyNorm.
0354 00:40:56:12 00:40:58:19
And
who is this?
-
It's Kok.
0355 00:40:58:22 00:41:02:04
Okay,
someone will be bringing you one
in
a minute.
0356 00:41:02:07 00:41:04:12
Thanks.
0357 00:41:05:02 00:41:07:10
Come
in. There's someone at the door.
0358 00:41:23:14 00:41:24:23
Dammit!
0359 00:41:27:17 00:41:29:12
But
it's going really well.
0360 00:41:31:03 00:41:35:19
You
know. And I have to say,
I
really like this morphine.
0361 00:41:35:22 00:41:40:08
It's
inspirational. Sometimes I feel no pain
but
I still take two tablets...
0362 00:41:40:11 00:41:44:06
...and
start writing poetry.
It's
a great feeling.
0363 00:41:44:09 00:41:48:12
It's
wonderful stuff. You don't need
to
smoke dope or anything.
0364 00:41:48:15 00:41:51:08
I'm
getting free drugs.
0365 00:41:52:00 00:41:56:00
Are
you hooked?
-
No, if I don't want it, I don't take it.
0366 00:41:56:03 00:42:00:24
But
sometimes when I feel like drawing
or
writing poetry...
0367 00:42:01:02 00:42:03:18
...I'll
call them and get some morphine...
0368 00:42:03:21 00:42:07:14
...because
it will give me inspiration.
0369 00:42:09:21 00:42:14:01
I
took a tablet today because I knew
you
guys would be coming.
0370 00:42:14:04 00:42:17:18
It
just makes me feel better.
0371 00:42:37:12 00:42:40:13
I've
decided to take up a study.
0372 00:42:40:16 00:42:45:12
I'm
going to impress people
with
my knowledge and experience...
0373 00:42:45:15 00:42:48:06
...instead
of my gun and my cash.
0374 00:42:48:09 00:42:51:14
The
idea is to become a psychotherapist.
0375 00:42:51:17 00:42:54:03
I'm
going to study psychotherapy.
0376 00:42:54:06 00:42:56:11
I
was a junkie, I was sexually abused.
0377 00:42:56:14 00:43:00:00
I'm
learning to live on my own
with
a chronic disease.
0378 00:43:00:03 00:43:04:01
Others
have to learn that stuff from books,
but
I've been through it.
0379 00:43:04:04 00:43:06:07
That's
the advantage I have.
0380 00:43:06:10 00:43:11:02
I've
had talks about taking up this study.
It
means...
0381 00:43:12:22 00:43:18:11
...starting
a new life, and I think it's important
to
have a new look to go with it.
0382 00:43:42:23 00:43:45:17
So
I've stopped smoking roll-ups.
0383 00:43:46:10 00:43:48:05
I'm
going back...
0384 00:43:52:10 00:43:54:05
...to
smoking my pipe.
0385 00:43:55:03 00:43:58:01
So
this is the new Vig, psychotherapist.
0386 00:43:59:23 00:44:04:18
If
it works out.
At
least this idea will help me...
0387 00:44:04:21 00:44:11:16
...to
enter the next phase,
of
being an older person.
0388 00:44:13:08 00:44:15:20
I
want to shed all of this.
0389 00:44:15:23 00:44:20:02
I'll
have to burn the leather jacket
and
the sneakers too.
0390 00:44:20:05 00:44:25:06
There
should be no reminders
of
this post-jail period.
0391 00:44:25:09 00:44:28:14
I'm
making a fresh start.
0392 00:44:29:08 00:44:32:18
That
requires a fresh person,
and
here he is.
0393 00:44:44:20 00:44:48:07
And
it tastes better,
as
you don't inhale the smoke.
0394 00:44:48:10 00:44:51:07
And
you've got something in your hand
to
point with.
0395 00:44:51:10 00:44:54:14
Like:
"We'll have to have a good talk
about
this, son."
0396 00:44:54:17 00:44:57:04
"There's
room for improvement here."
0397 00:44:57:20 00:44:59:11
Or:
"Come here for a minute".
0398 00:44:59:14 00:45:02:05
It
looks different with a roll-up.
0399 00:45:02:20 00:45:06:10
"I
understand your problems.
Spit
it all out."
0400 00:45:07:07 00:45:12:12
It
has a different feel.
The
pipe makes it work.
0401 00:45:13:12 00:45:15:08
You
know what I mean?
0402 00:45:15:11 00:45:19:16
It
makes me feel like dancing.
I'm
really up for it.
0403 00:45:19:19 00:45:24:03
The
pain has gone
and
I'm ready for the future.
0404 00:46:00:14 00:46:05:12
Dad
used to say: Keep your virginity
until
you are married.
0405 00:46:06:04 00:46:08:24
It
was a sacred thing.
0406 00:46:10:09 00:46:13:00
And
this is the tangle of my life.
0407 00:46:13:03 00:46:18:24
Because
one day Daddy robbed me
of
my virginity. In front of Mummy. Yes.
0408 00:46:19:13 00:46:26:05
So
I said: What do I do when I'm older
and
I get a husband of my own?
0409 00:46:26:08 00:46:29:14
"Just
tell him you had remedial gymnastics."
0410 00:46:29:17 00:46:32:02
That's
just wrong.
0411 00:46:32:05 00:46:34:23
It
leaves you with a deep sadness.
0412 00:46:35:01 00:46:39:09
Because
something happened to you
that
you didn't agree with. Right?
0413 00:46:41:03 00:46:43:03
It
still beats me.
0414 00:46:43:06 00:46:47:09
But
it was tralala, long live peace
and
a happy home.
0415 00:46:47:12 00:46:52:23
Of
course there were moments when I
thought:
I'm running away, I don't want this.
0416 00:46:55:06 00:47:01:05
Then
you see your little brother, just come
back
from hospital, his legs in plaster casts.
0417 00:47:01:08 00:47:06:11
You'd
have to be heartless to say:
"Sort
it out yourself, Dad, with your kids."
0418 00:47:06:14 00:47:08:01
You
just don't do that.
0419 00:47:22:13 00:47:24:05
You
grow up.
0420 00:47:24:23 00:47:28:21
Then
something more
developed
between us.
0421 00:47:32:04 00:47:36:17
Then,
besides that which I don't agree with...
0422 00:47:36:20 00:47:41:12
...there
was this feeling of:
But
he is my Dad, after all.
0423 00:47:41:15 00:47:44:03
But
not your husband.
-
Not my husband.
0424 00:47:44:03 00:47:47:21
And
another thing: In terms of sex,
Dad
wasn't selfish.
0425 00:47:47:24 00:47:51:14
Simply
put. He certainly wasn't.
0426 00:47:51:17 00:47:57:07
And
he didn't go whoring
or
whatever people thought or said.
0427 00:47:57:10 00:47:59:16
Women
threw themselves at him.
0428 00:48:00:16 00:48:02:21
It's
working.
0429 00:48:02:24 00:48:08:23
These
are Dad's diaries,
which
I've looked at before.
0430 00:48:09:17 00:48:14:16
And
this is his...revolver.
0431 00:48:14:19 00:48:19:03
Which
he used during the war as a...
0432 00:48:20:10 00:48:22:12
...as
a Resistance fighter.
0433 00:48:22:15 00:48:25:21
I
had the bullets to go with this.
0434 00:48:25:24 00:48:30:18
Dad
used this a lot during the war,
as
he was with the armed Resistance.
0435 00:48:40:14 00:48:44:11
This
is the NIOD War and Holocaust Institute.
-
I have a question.
0436 00:48:44:16 00:48:49:05
I'm
trying to find out more
about
my parents' war records.
0437 00:48:49:08 00:48:53:06
Those
are two detectives...
-
What is your question, sir?
0438 00:48:53:09 00:48:57:17
I'd
like to know what I should do
and
where I should go...
0439 00:48:57:20 00:49:01:03
...to
ask for those files.
0440 00:49:03:05 00:49:05:18
It
seems there are files...
-
What kind of files?
0441 00:49:05:21 00:49:12:10
Files
put together by the 1940-1945
Foundation
and the National Archives.
0442 00:49:12:13 00:49:15:12
And
by the police, probably.
0443 00:49:15:15 00:49:20:15
Files
containing information
about
my parents' war records.
0444 00:49:20:18 00:49:24:03
I
think you're talking about
special
procedures.
0445 00:49:24:06 00:49:28:04
Those
are judicial documents.
They
are in the National Archives.
0446 00:49:28:07 00:49:34:13
If
you call them, they will send you
a
special form for you to fill out.
0447 00:49:34:16 00:49:40:00
You
have to be able to motivate clearly
why
you would like to see those papers.
0448 00:49:57:06 00:49:58:03
And
it works!
0449 00:50:01:04 00:50:03:07
I've
never seen this before.
0450 00:50:03:10 00:50:07:20
This
is the 1940-1945 Foundation's report
on
my Dad.
0451 00:50:15:03 00:50:16:13
What?!
0452 00:50:20:04 00:50:22:21
"Based
on the information known to us..."
0453 00:50:22:24 00:50:27:24
"...the
Amsterdam regional board
upholds
its October 6, 1981, decision:"
0454 00:50:28:02 00:50:31:12
"Applicant
did not take part
in
the Resistance..."
0455 00:50:31:15 00:50:35:19
"..and
has acted unworthily
in
Dutch patriotic terms."
0456 00:50:40:06 00:50:42:14
How
about that!
0457 00:50:46:19 00:50:49:08
There
was a lot wrong with my Dad...
0458 00:50:49:11 00:50:55:00
...but
he made up for it
by
being a Resistance hero...
0459 00:50:55:03 00:50:57:11
...a
hunter, a special kind of man.
0460 00:50:57:14 00:51:01:03
He
had these great stories
about
the war and the Resistance.
0461 00:51:05:07 00:51:07:16
What
do you think of the man now?
0462 00:51:08:22 00:51:12:11
Well,
I can understand him in many ways.
0463 00:51:12:14 00:51:16:15
Except...
I can understand
many
things he did.
0464 00:51:16:18 00:51:20:00
Except
for two things:
Lying
about his Resistance record...
0465 00:51:20:03 00:51:24:19
...and
spending his whole life
chasing
my sister.
0466 00:51:25:12 00:51:30:06
Apart
from those two things,
I
can understand a lot.
0467 00:51:30:09 00:51:35:15
I'm
a lot like him, so I can understand
many
of his decisions.
0468 00:51:35:18 00:51:40:01
But
I never understood why
he
had to be involved with my sister.
0469 00:51:45:20 00:51:49:21
I
think it would be very sad for Vonnie
to
read about this.
0470 00:51:49:24 00:51:54:18
I
don't know. Should she hear this?
It
would just add to the weight.
0471 00:51:59:21 00:52:03:12
No,
wrong lyrics.
Definitely
wrong.
0472 00:52:25:02 00:52:26:20
Come
on, sing.
0473 00:52:36:00 00:52:38:14
That's
Vonnie, who keeps starting over.
0474 00:52:43:23 00:52:45:18
What
did he just say?
0475 00:52:46:16 00:52:50:10
"I
don't know the words and
I'm
too busy with the kids here."
0476 00:52:52:07 00:52:55:04
At
the start I heard a dark voice.
That
was Mummy.
0477 00:52:55:07 00:52:57:03
I
think you're right.
0478 00:52:57:06 00:53:03:21
The
first time we listened, someone started
to
sing very loudly. That was her.
0479 00:53:03:24 00:53:07:02
If
this was 1959, she must
have
been quite ill already.
0480 00:53:07:05 00:53:10:02
She
was to die within a year.
-
That's right.
0481 00:53:10:05 00:53:13:23
Maybe
she was so ill here that she...
-
Didn't do much.
0482 00:53:20:13 00:53:25:04
Daddy
has to tell you something now
which
is very difficult for Daddy.
0483 00:53:25:07 00:53:26:22
Do
you understand?
0484 00:53:27:00 00:53:29:13
It
makes Daddy very sad.
0485 00:53:30:04 00:53:33:15
You
have seen that Mummy
was
in a lot of pain.
0486 00:53:33:18 00:53:35:23
That
pain has stopped now.
0487 00:53:37:02 00:53:43:08
You
know, Tjeerd, Mummy has now
gone
to sleep forever.
0488 00:53:46:22 00:53:49:20
She's
in such a deep sleep that she...
0489 00:53:52:24 00:53:55:04
...will
never come back to us.
0490 00:53:56:18 00:53:58:08
She
can't.
0491 00:53:58:22 00:54:00:15
Is
she dead?
0492 00:54:02:05 00:54:03:05
Yes.
0493 00:54:04:21 00:54:07:17
Now
Daddy has a reason to ask you...
0494 00:54:07:20 00:54:13:17
...and
Mummy has asked this too,
to
help Daddy as well as you can.
0495 00:54:15:04 00:54:17:15
Do
you understand, children?
-
Yes.
0496 00:54:19:04 00:54:23:16
Ute
and Viggo are a little too young
to
understand.
0497 00:54:24:09 00:54:26:02
So
I can't tell them yet.
0498 00:54:27:05 00:54:30:23
But
you're a man, and us men
have
more strength to face these things.
0499 00:54:31:01 00:54:35:05
But
because you're a man,
you
have to help me to support the others.
0500 00:54:35:08 00:54:37:07
Will
you do that, my boy?
0501 00:54:39:17 00:54:41:07
Daddy's
going now.
0502 00:54:55:01 00:54:57:23
Did
you hear that?
-
I'd do the same thing.
0503 00:54:58:01 00:55:02:06
Yeah?
I wouldn't.
-
What did he do wrong?
0504 00:55:02:09 00:55:06:06
I'm
not saying it's wrong,
but
he's asking a lot of Tjeerd.
0505 00:55:06:09 00:55:09:21
Tjeerd
has to help him and be a man.
The
boy's only 12.
0506 00:55:09:24 00:55:12:17
He
has to help his sister, brother,
and
baby brother.
0507 00:55:12:20 00:55:15:23
That
way you take him out of his...
0508 00:55:16:01 00:55:20:05
I'd
do it the same way:
"We're
going to face this together."
0509 00:55:20:08 00:55:24:04
You're
entitled to your view,
but
I'm hearing other things.
0510 00:55:25:02 00:55:29:17
I
don't hear anything wrong. I hear a
distressed
father and his distressed son.
0511 00:55:29:20 00:55:34:24
Of
course.
-
No overtones, no hate, no...
0512 00:55:35:02 00:55:39:06
I
didn't say that. Don't start
putting
words into my mouth.
0513 00:55:39:09 00:55:44:07
I'm
just saying something.
I'm
not putting words into your mouth.
0514 00:55:44:10 00:55:45:24
Yes,
you are.
0515 00:55:50:07 00:55:57:01
I
just can't square this with the fact
that
he abused that boy the way he did.
0516 00:55:57:04 00:55:59:22
It's
such a huge contrast.
0517 00:56:00:00 00:56:04:09
But
I've always told myself...
0518 00:56:04:12 00:56:10:18
...that
our Dad was a very sweet man,
but
very weak in character.
0519 00:56:11:09 00:56:12:12
Yes.
0520 00:56:14:04 00:56:17:13
Okay,
but... Well, yes.
0521 00:56:18:14 00:56:20:22
And
very aggressive in his weakness.
0522 00:56:21:00 00:56:25:17
Very
aggressive in his impotence.
0523 00:56:27:18 00:56:32:01
This
just doesn't make sense,
nor
does the other story.
0524 00:56:33:09 00:56:36:12
After
she died, the boy became
more
and more of a nuisance.
0525 00:56:36:15 00:56:42:13
I
think I might've laid into him too every day.
It
happens to other people too.
0526 00:56:42:16 00:56:48:00
And
you'd abuse your daughters too?
0527 00:56:48:03 00:56:52:13
And
you'd drink yourself silly every day too?
0528 00:56:52:16 00:56:55:14
I
mean, what are you talking about?
0529 00:56:55:21 00:56:58:17
I'm
trying to...
-
To defend him?
0530 00:56:58:20 00:57:00:12
To
see his point of view.
0531 00:57:00:15 00:57:03:23
You
can tell a three-year-old
bad
news in this way.
0532 00:57:04:01 00:57:09:09
But
you can also choose not to tell her
as
you've already told six other children...
0533 00:57:09:12 00:57:13:19
...and
you don't want to have to explain death
to
another crying child.
0534 00:57:13:22 00:57:16:06
Let's
leave it.
-
I can understand it.
0535 00:57:16:09 00:57:20:01
I
really don't want to go into this any further.
0536 00:57:20:04 00:57:24:02
You
only want to hear the bad things?
-
That's not what I mean.
0537 00:57:24:05 00:57:25:21
You're
just trying to...
0538 00:57:25:24 00:57:30:12
I'm
trying to see his point of view.
-
That's not what you're doing.
0539 00:57:30:15 00:57:34:03
You're
trying to put me in some corner.
-
Nonsense.
0540 00:57:34:06 00:57:39:19
I
just can't understand it. But it hurts me too.
You're
not the only one who lost his mother.
0541 00:57:39:22 00:57:43:05
Jesus,
here we go again.
Do
you want to matter or something?
0542 00:57:44:08 00:57:49:00
Yes,
maybe I want to matter for a change.
-
Maybe you should start working on that.
0543 00:57:55:13 00:57:58:06
Yes,
you can always walk away.
0544 00:57:58:09 00:58:00:12
I
don't need this shit.
0545 00:58:02:14 00:58:05:03
I'm
going to walk the dog and have a smoke.
0546 00:58:25:17 00:58:27:16
Such
a prick.
0547 00:58:36:04 00:58:39:15
I'm
realizing now that my past
has
caught up with me.
0548 00:58:39:18 00:58:43:22
I've
been thrown back to the way we were:
none
of us communicates.
0549 00:58:44:19 00:58:47:09
"Things
you don't discuss, don't exist."
0550 00:58:49:00 00:58:51:01
I
won't go along!
0551 00:58:51:04 00:58:54:15
I
won't. I discuss things.
0552 00:58:54:18 00:59:00:07
But
I need people to discuss things with.
I
can't talk to people that are not here.
0553 00:59:10:21 00:59:12:14
Go
get it.
0554 00:59:15:08 00:59:19:06
That
was fun, wasn't it?
We
have so much fun together.
0555 00:59:19:09 00:59:21:21
We
have fun together, don't we, old boy?
0556 00:59:22:17 00:59:25:14
Oh
golly.
0557 00:59:29:07 00:59:32:06
Sure,
many people will think I'm an asshole.
0558 00:59:32:09 00:59:36:03
And
to some extent I can agree with them.
0559 00:59:37:07 00:59:43:20
But
that softie bullshit of showing
consideration
and understanding each other.
0560 00:59:43:23 00:59:47:24
I
can't do that yet,
I'm
still learning how to do that.
0561 00:59:48:02 00:59:51:09
It's
coming to the surface again.
0562 00:59:51:12 00:59:56:12
I've
been like this for a while now,
but
I can feel the lion inside screaming:
0563 00:59:56:15 01:00:00:11
"No!
I don't want this! I want my gun!"
0564 01:00:00:14 01:00:04:21
"I
want back into the action!
I
don't want to be nice!" You know?
0565 01:00:08:08 01:00:11:02
But
it stays...
0566 01:00:17:06 01:00:20:08
It
happens only when I'm...
0567 01:00:20:11 01:00:26:01
Look,
if I feel that I'm right about something
and
someone starts lying to me...
0568 01:00:26:04 01:00:30:24
There's
some issue and someone
is
sitting there, lying to my face.
0569 01:00:31:19 01:00:35:05
Other
people might keep on
discussing
the issue.
0570 01:00:35:08 01:00:39:24
But
doing that makes me sick.
Instead
the lion in me starts roaring:
0571 01:00:40:02 01:00:45:03
"I
am right, you bastard. I'm gonna
bust
your head in if you don't listen."
0572 01:00:45:06 01:00:48:08
Rather
than: "Yes, I can see
your
point of view..."
0573 01:00:48:11 01:00:53:13
"...but
we should be thinking differently
in
order to see it in its right blabla..."
0574 01:00:53:16 01:00:55:24
I
can't do that yet. I'm still like:
0575 01:00:56:02 01:01:00:10
"I'll
smack you around so you understand
that
I'm on to your lies."
0576 01:01:01:05 01:01:04:18
"You
fucking idiot."
You
know what I mean?
0577 01:01:07:17 01:01:10:03
You
have to be hard on other criminals.
0578 01:01:10:06 01:01:14:10
You
can't start chatting with them.
You
have to shoot them in the knees.
0579 01:01:15:15 01:01:18:17
Shoot
them in the knees
to
cut them down to size.
0580 01:01:27:24 01:01:30:13
Loki,
come here.
0581 01:01:33:02 01:01:34:10
Careful.
0582 01:01:34:13 01:01:35:23
Good
boy.
0583 01:02:09:08 01:02:14:19
June
25th. Hot conditions.
Viggo
resurfaced.
0584 01:02:14:22 01:02:17:18
It
turned out he'd been to France.
0585 01:02:20:11 01:02:25:17
He
brought a pile of money
which
he put in front of us.
0586 01:02:26:20 01:02:28:14
I
remember.
0587 01:02:29:04 01:02:31:20
180.000
guilders.
0588 01:02:32:07 01:02:35:04
I
was terrified when I saw it.
0589 01:02:36:22 01:02:39:00
Where
on earth did he get it?
0590 01:02:51:02 01:02:55:06
At
first we were trafficking
the
heavy stuff, hard drugs.
0591 01:02:55:09 01:03:00:10
But
we didn't like that,
we
were traffickers, not criminals.
0592 01:03:00:13 01:03:04:10
We
wanted to traffic hash,
but
we had never sailed before.
0593 01:03:04:13 01:03:07:20
I'd
done inland sailing with my Dad,
but
never at sea.
0594 01:03:12:18 01:03:16:09
So
suddenly we had to sail
from
Amsterdam...
0595 01:03:16:21 01:03:20:06
...to
Malaga, non-stop.
0596 01:03:22:16 01:03:24:10
Well,
we nearly drowned.
0597 01:03:24:13 01:03:27:17
At
Sole Bank we ended up
in
a force 11 storm.
0598 01:03:27:20 01:03:31:04
It
turned into a horrendous journey.
0599 01:03:31:07 01:03:33:22
But
it taught us how to sail the sea.
0600 01:03:37:09 01:03:40:15
Each
trip made us 600.000 guilders.
0601 01:03:53:20 01:03:56:16
But
we had to fight some battles too.
0602 01:03:57:11 01:04:00:07
When
we were working for Klaas,
for
instance.
0603 01:04:01:07 01:04:04:13
Bruinsma?
-
Klaas Bruinsma. He had four boats...
0604 01:04:04:16 01:04:08:20
...ours
among them. Once
we
had to pick up 1000 kilos for him.
0605 01:04:08:23 01:04:10:20
They
were all shit scared of Klaas.
0606 01:04:10:23 01:04:14:10
On
arrival you had to unload the stuff
and
give it to him.
0607 01:04:14:13 01:04:18:09
You
wouldn't get your money
until
he had sold the stuff.
0608 01:04:18:12 01:04:21:03
No
one dared to challenge him on this.
0609 01:04:21:06 01:04:24:17
When
we arrived with our 1000 kilos
we
told him:
0610 01:04:24:20 01:04:28:03
"We
want our money."
"You'll
get it later," he said.
0611 01:04:28:06 01:04:31:12
"No
way," we said,
and
we cast off and sailed off.
0612 01:04:31:15 01:04:34:13
Which
is taking a risk,
as
you're still on that boat.
0613 01:04:34:16 01:04:37:14
We
said: "We're coming back
when
you've got the cash."
0614 01:04:37:17 01:04:39:22
And
we just sailed off.
0615 01:04:40:18 01:04:43:21
Klaas
didn't know what was
happening
to him, he went crazy.
0616 01:04:44:08 01:04:46:24
He
put some dodgy characters on my trail...
0617 01:04:47:02 01:04:50:18
...so
I had to surround myself
with
even dodgier characters.
0618 01:04:50:21 01:04:54:03
So
I walked around
with
an army of Chechens.
0619 01:05:07:06 01:05:11:04
Need
some hash?
Just
come in from Spain.
0620 01:05:17:18 01:05:21:02
Don't
you miss the thrill of it?
-
Very much so.
0621 01:05:21:05 01:05:24:08
Anybody
can understand you miss the thrill.
0622 01:05:25:00 01:05:31:20
That's
what I mean. This boredom of
nothing
happening and no one chasing you.
0623 01:05:31:23 01:05:33:19
No
one's looking for you.
0624 01:05:34:00 01:05:37:24
I
feel exposed
because
I'm not carrying my gun.
0625 01:05:38:02 01:05:41:16
A
gun used to be like a wallet to me.
0626 01:05:42:06 01:05:46:12
You
know. Just the feel of it.
It
was the most normal thing.
0627 01:05:46:15 01:05:49:07
"Viggo
always has a pistol around."
0628 01:05:50:08 01:05:54:10
I
never left the house without my gun.
But
it's been some time now.
0629 01:05:54:13 01:05:58:19
Sometimes
I just miss
feeling
the weight of the thing.
0630 01:05:58:22 01:06:01:15
That
great feeling of packing a gun.
0631 01:06:01:18 01:06:06:06
It's
like an addiction.
It
feels so good.
0632 01:06:20:03 01:06:25:01
RUSSIAN
WOMEN
0633 01:06:46:10 01:06:49:09
Want
some coffee?
-
No, tea.
0634 01:06:51:19 01:06:54:05
Herbal
tea. You have that?
0635 01:06:54:08 01:06:58:04
I've
got... Let's see...
-
I brought my own.
0636 01:07:05:23 01:07:09:11
You
used to get pity,
to
be the centre of attention...
0637 01:07:09:14 01:07:12:09
...because
you had this thing with your feet.
0638 01:07:12:12 01:07:16:16
Now
it's almost like you're back to craving
pity
and being the centre of attention...
0639 01:07:16:19 01:07:19:20
...because
of your pancreatitis.
0640 01:07:19:23 01:07:23:19
I'm
not being pampered by care.
I've
been on my own here for a month.
0641 01:07:23:22 01:07:28:02
You
sound like you think
I
put spells on people or something.
0642 01:07:28:05 01:07:30:21
Acting
pitiful to get attention.
0643 01:07:30:24 01:07:34:10
You
know what, Kirsten,
it's
got to the point now...
0644 01:07:34:13 01:07:37:09
...that
when I'm with you...
0645 01:07:37:12 01:07:39:21
...I
don't know how to behave.
0646 01:07:39:24 01:07:43:20
You
don't realize
how
fierce your reactions are.
0647 01:07:44:08 01:07:48:02
Do
you know what I'm saying?
Or
am I saying it wrong?
0648 01:07:49:16 01:07:52:05
I
don't know if you're saying it wrong.
0649 01:07:52:18 01:07:56:09
But
I'm stunned by what you just said.
0650 01:07:56:12 01:08:02:07
You're
saying you can't be yourself
around
me.
0651 01:08:02:10 01:08:06:18
And
you're just controlling yourself...
0652 01:08:06:21 01:08:09:24
...because
you're scared
of
my reaction to you.
0653 01:08:10:02 01:08:13:07
In
case you hadn't noticed,
there's
been little contact lately.
0654 01:08:13:10 01:08:16:08
That's
because I don't want
to
burden you with it...
0655 01:08:16:11 01:08:19:17
...and
because of what happened.
0656 01:08:19:20 01:08:24:18
You
don't realize how you rude you can get.
You're
calling me pitiful and...
0657 01:08:24:21 01:08:28:02
I've
had enough of this.
I
don't need any of this.
0658 01:08:28:05 01:08:31:01
I
don't want to hear this kind of...
0659 01:08:31:04 01:08:34:06
Who's
the rude one here?
I've
never ever been rude.
0660 01:08:34:09 01:08:38:06
And
this is what I mean.
No
matter what I do...
0661 01:08:38:09 01:08:41:18
...no
matter how much I'm there for people...
0662 01:08:43:20 01:08:47:20
....sooner
or later I'll do something wrong
and
then it's...
0663 01:08:47:23 01:08:53:05
But
darling, that's the same for everyone.
It's
not a big deal.
0664 01:08:53:08 01:08:59:08
Viggo,
let me finish what I want to say!
Stop
interrupting me.
0665 01:09:00:06 01:09:03:10
You're
only thinking
about
your side of the story.
0666 01:09:03:13 01:09:07:11
All
you are doing
is
trying to negate my story.
0667 01:09:07:14 01:09:10:24
And
impose your way of seeing it.
0668 01:09:11:20 01:09:14:01
As
soon as I put a foot wrong...
0669 01:09:16:06 01:09:18:17
...I'm
sent back to my cage.
0670 01:09:18:20 01:09:22:02
You've
got a huge complex about this.
You
need help.
0671 01:09:22:05 01:09:26:00
That's
got nothing to do with it.
-
Feeling you're being sent back...
0672 01:09:26:03 01:09:29:02
...to
your cage all the time by everybody.
0673 01:09:29:05 01:09:31:07
Don't
tell me I need help.
0674 01:09:31:10 01:09:33:17
You've
got a huge problem, darling.
0675 01:09:33:20 01:09:38:17
You're
always hearing people sending you
back
to your cage or locking you out.
0676 01:09:38:20 01:09:42:04
But
you're wrong. I'm not
sending
you back to your cage.
0677 01:09:42:07 01:09:46:23
As
soon as I say something, you go:
"You
all do this to me, the whole family."
0678 01:09:47:01 01:09:51:16
"Sending
me back to my cage as soon as
I
fail." That's all I ever hear from you.
0679 01:10:19:11 01:10:23:22
Apparently
someone has a big client
somewhere
once in a while.
0680 01:10:24:00 01:10:27:22
Last
time this Russian guy
suddenly
walked in.
0681 01:10:28:00 01:10:31:19
It
fell through because we
couldn't
agree on a price.
0682 01:10:31:22 01:10:36:13
But
he was ready to buy, I don't know,
a million bucks worth of rocks.
0683 01:10:36:16 01:10:40:11
The
estate agent came into it too.
The
deal was all set up.
0684 01:10:40:14 01:10:43:07
But
the guy thought the price was too high.
0685 01:10:43:10 01:10:48:01
So
we can actually do this, it's possible.
0686 01:10:48:18 01:10:53:06
Just
text me a safe number
and
I'll call you. Ciao.
0687 01:11:06:24 01:11:11:14
Viggo,
they're going to rip us.
-
How can they rip us?
0688 01:11:11:17 01:11:15:02
We
could rip them, but they can't rip us.
0689 01:11:15:05 01:11:21:03
They're
giving us things, then we come back
with
rocks. So they can't rip us.
0690 01:11:21:06 01:11:24:01
All
right then.
-
They can't rip us.
0691 01:11:25:12 01:11:29:14
All
right, man.
-
Not as I see it.
0692 01:11:30:24 01:11:34:08
I'll
keep you posted.
-
Okay, man.
0693 01:11:34:11 01:11:35:23
Catch
you later.
0694 01:11:36:17 01:11:38:08
See
you later, Vig.
0695 01:11:53:18 01:11:54:24
Yeah.
0696 01:12:02:15 01:12:05:21
Yes,
I think this will be a tense affair.
0697 01:12:07:15 01:12:10:18
For
me this will be anxious.
0698 01:12:11:15 01:12:14:19
This
deal can't take place without me.
0699 01:12:20:10 01:12:24:18
I
can't be involved in this,
but
I can't pull out anymore either.
0700 01:12:27:00 01:12:31:19
I
won't be taken seriously if I get involved
in
a large criminal deal.
0701 01:12:31:22 01:12:36:23
This
is not a one-off, this is a multiple deal.
This
means cashing in.
0702 01:12:40:23 01:12:43:18
But
my credibility is at stake.
0703 01:12:44:11 01:12:49:06
I
can end up in jail or with lots of cash,
but
not with respect.
0704 01:12:50:18 01:12:53:18
If
I do this, I can't be a psychotherapist.
0705 01:12:53:21 01:12:56:09
I'll
be in trouble with Kirsten,
so
I can't do this.
0706 01:12:56:12 01:12:59:15
But
I have to,
because
I can't let them down either.
0707 01:12:59:18 01:13:03:00
So
I can set the whole thing up.
0708 01:13:03:03 01:13:09:03
But
after that I'll have to say: "Guys, I'm out.
And
I don't want any of the profits."
0709 01:13:41:22 01:13:45:16
Come,
Loki. We're going to bring
the
master his sandwich.
0710 01:13:46:13 01:13:50:22
Loki
can't have any of it.
Nothing
at all.
0711 01:13:52:01 01:13:54:18
Do
you like that?
I didn't put too much butter on it.
0712 01:13:54:21 01:13:58:11
Thanks.
-
And a nice cup of coffee.
0713 01:13:59:00 01:14:00:17
How
many sugars?
-
Well...
0714 01:14:00:20 01:14:03:14
Two?
One?
-
Two. Is that okay?
0715 01:14:03:17 01:14:07:00
It's
not too many?
-
No. Thank you.
0716 01:14:07:03 01:14:11:13
I
have to continue working,
I'm
right in the middle of it.
0717 01:14:11:16 01:14:14:11
But
you're okay?
-
Yes, fine.
0718 01:14:14:14 01:14:17:00
All
right then, little man.
-
Bye.
0719 01:14:20:18 01:14:23:22
I'm
not a little man.
-
I'm sorry, Viggo.
0720 01:14:25:18 01:14:29:01
I
can't help myself
with
that kind of thing. Sorry.
0721 01:14:42:10 01:14:45:01
I'm
going to take up this study, you know.
0722 01:14:45:04 01:14:47:08
I've
paid the fees.
0723 01:14:48:21 01:14:54:23
But
if for some reason I can't do it,
because
I get too ill or whatever...
0724 01:14:55:14 01:15:01:21
...or
I fail because my condition interferes
and
I fall behind...
0725 01:15:03:01 01:15:06:06
...then
I'll have nothing to fall back on.
0726 01:15:06:09 01:15:11:09
Then
some subconscious thing
will
surreptitiously push me...
0727 01:15:13:08 01:15:15:05
...towards
my old life.
0728 01:15:15:21 01:15:18:11
No,
I don't...
-
You can't understand that.
0729 01:15:18:14 01:15:23:04
Dick
wanted to set up something with me
in
case it doesn't work out.
0730 01:15:23:07 01:15:27:23
But
I said: No, I don't want that.
I
just want to pursue my studies.
0731 01:15:28:01 01:15:32:08
I
don't want to know I can fall back
on
something I want to get away from.
0732 01:15:32:11 01:15:34:06
So
I didn't take up his offer.
0733 01:15:34:09 01:15:37:03
Dick
was impressed. He said:
"Then
I'll pay your fees."
0734 01:15:37:06 01:15:39:13
So
he threw down the cash for the fees.
0735 01:15:39:16 01:15:44:00
"Don't
give it to me," I said. "Transfer it
to the university where I can't reach
it."
0736 01:15:44:03 01:15:48:04
"I
don't want to have the option
of
starting a pot farm."
0737 01:15:48:07 01:15:51:16
Or
he gave it to you with the intention...
0738 01:15:51:19 01:15:54:14
No,
he didn't.
0739 01:16:11:02 01:16:13:04
LONDON
AT A GLANCE
0740 01:16:16:18 01:16:21:02
At
some stage the three of us, Vonnie,
Dad
and I, were living at home together.
0741 01:16:21:05 01:16:22:22
There
were few limits.
0742 01:16:23:05 01:16:26:12
I
was free.
We
were allowed to handle the guns.
0743 01:16:27:24 01:16:30:11
We
had a kind of pact against the rest.
0744 01:16:31:20 01:16:34:11
Then,
suddenly, I was shut out.
0745 01:16:51:16 01:16:53:00
I
was 21.
0746 01:16:53:20 01:16:56:06
I
got pregnant by Dad.
0747 01:16:59:03 01:17:02:24
Dad
arranged for it to be aborted.
0748 01:17:11:09 01:17:16:04
There
was no way we could have it
in
the family. It had to go.
0749 01:17:18:09 01:17:23:02
I'M
CRAZY
I'M
SUCH AN IDIOT
0750 01:17:33:11 01:17:37:21
We
went to Germany over Whitsun,
to
Sachsenheim.
0751 01:17:37:24 01:17:40:20
We
camped out there.
0752 01:17:40:23 01:17:44:16
Dad
and I buried the child there together.
0753 01:17:49:13 01:17:52:02
I
was really cut-up about it.
0754 01:17:54:05 01:17:57:19
But
I thought: There's one thing
I
won't be denied...
0755 01:17:57:22 01:18:02:03
...and
that's motherhood.
I
couldn't bear that.
0756 01:18:03:08 01:18:09:00
Sissy
has on her cradle curtain
0757 01:18:09:03 01:18:14:17
pretty
flowers big and small
0758 01:18:14:20 01:18:20:09
lots
of daisies and violets blue
0759 01:18:20:12 01:18:26:16
lilacs
pink and jasmine white
0760 01:18:27:21 01:18:32:22
So
then Dieuweke was born.
It
was the happiest day of my life.
0761 01:18:41:18 01:18:43:23
I
was chased from my den.
0762 01:18:44:01 01:18:50:07
I
remember I had a couple of problems
at
the time and I wanted my Dad's attention.
0763 01:18:50:10 01:18:54:06
But
he was only interested
in
Dieuweke and Vonnie.
0764 01:18:59:07 01:19:02:23
There
were moments when Dad,
and
you too...
0765 01:19:03:22 01:19:05:23
...were
completely...
0766 01:19:06:01 01:19:08:18
At
first, the three of us
had
a kind of pact, right?
0767 01:19:08:21 01:19:14:14
We
went on holiday together, we boozed and
played
poker, we had that couch upstairs.
0768 01:19:14:17 01:19:16:20
We
had a pact together.
0769 01:19:16:23 01:19:20:13
Everyone
was against us, because
you
were with Dad, but we didn't mind.
0770 01:19:20:16 01:19:25:12
It
was the three of us against
the
outside world. "Leave us alone."
0771 01:19:26:19 01:19:29:10
Then
Dieuweke was born.
-
Then of course...
0772 01:19:29:13 01:19:31:19
Then
Dad turned... Listen to me!
0773 01:19:32:20 01:19:36:08
Dad
turned away from everything
when
that happened.
0774 01:19:36:11 01:19:40:09
I
couldn't deal with that,
so
I started to demand his attention.
0775 01:19:40:12 01:19:42:08
Listen
to me!
0776 01:19:42:11 01:19:47:16
I
started to demand his attention.
I
got jealous. "Dammit, this isn't fair."
0777 01:19:47:19 01:19:49:23
So
I began to use lots of heroin.
0778 01:19:50:01 01:19:53:14
Then
I went up to Dad and said:
"Dad,
I'm hooked."
0779 01:19:53:17 01:19:57:23
"I
need your help, Dad. I'm hooked
on
smack, I need to talk to you."
0780 01:19:58:01 01:20:01:06
And
Dad said:
"Right,
but where's little Von?"
0781 01:20:01:09 01:20:06:17
I
said: "Did you hear what I just said? I'm
a
junkie, I need to talk to you. I could die."
0782 01:20:06:20 01:20:10:13
"Yes,
I hear you, but it's five past five
and
Von should have been home by now."
0783 01:20:10:16 01:20:13:14
"Where
is she? What's keeping her?"
0784 01:20:13:17 01:20:17:16
I
said: "Dad, don't you see?
I'm
hooked on horse, I'm confused."
0785 01:20:17:19 01:20:20:10
"I'm
out on the street, I need your help."
0786 01:20:20:13 01:20:24:20
He
got up and walked out onto the balcony,
to
see if you might be coming.
0787 01:20:26:04 01:20:29:22
That's
when I decided I'd had enough.
0788 01:20:30:00 01:20:34:15
I
hadn't really gone all-out criminal yet,
I
was still pissing around.
0789 01:20:34:18 01:20:37:24
I
hadn't yet stopped caring altogether.
0790 01:20:38:02 01:20:40:07
I
hadn't yet put a pistol in my pocket.
0791 01:20:40:10 01:20:42:14
A
pistol in your pocket?
-
Yes.
0792 01:20:44:11 01:20:46:18
What
pistol? Dad's, I guess.
0793 01:20:46:21 01:20:50:23
I
had my own pistol after a while, but...
-
You had a pistol?
0794 01:20:53:04 01:20:55:19
I'm
sorry, but this is going too far.
0795 01:20:57:04 01:20:59:21
All
right, cut. I don't need this crap.
0796 01:20:59:24 01:21:03:04
Get
real, Von!
Of
course I never had a pistol.
0797 01:21:03:07 01:21:06:16
Did
you ever see me with a pistol?
You
can't be serious!
0798 01:21:06:19 01:21:09:09
Viggo,
listen.
-
Did I have a gun?
0799 01:21:09:12 01:21:13:02
Like
hell you didn't know.
I
had an Uzi in my cupboard.
0800 01:21:13:05 01:21:16:18
"You
had a pistol?"
The
whole house was riddled with guns.
0801 01:21:16:21 01:21:20:19
Remember
my birthday party when they were
firing
shots from the upstairs window?
0802 01:21:20:22 01:21:25:06
All
those guys firing machine guns
from
the window.
0803 01:21:31:19 01:21:33:23
I
was 16, 17 years old.
0804 01:21:35:19 01:21:39:13
It
was the booze, of course.
We
were plastered every day.
0805 01:21:39:16 01:21:46:10
If
I wanted something, I made sure you were
drunk
within ten minutes and I could...
0806 01:21:46:13 01:21:49:04
I
drove Dad's car into town when I was 16.
0807 01:21:50:11 01:21:53:24
I
drove his car into town
to
pick you up from the pub...
0808 01:21:54:02 01:21:56:23
...when
I was only 17
and
didn't have a licence.
0809 01:21:58:08 01:22:00:00
You
must know this.
0810 01:22:03:14 01:22:08:02
It
didn't matter what I did.
He
was only interested in you. Period.
0811 01:22:08:05 01:22:12:12
It
didn't matter if I turned up with a bunch
of
criminals, drove his car...
0812 01:22:12:15 01:22:15:24
...fired
guns from windows, whatever.
0813 01:22:16:02 01:22:21:07
Because
I did all of that.
-
I think that's really terrible.
0814 01:22:21:10 01:22:26:20
And
yes, he only had eyes for me,
which
I found pretty annoying too, actually.
0815 01:22:28:00 01:22:31:18
Maybe
he suffered from
a
kind of separation anxiety...
0816 01:22:31:21 01:22:34:17
...causing
him to neglect you.
0817 01:22:34:20 01:22:39:13
I
mean...
-
I think it played tricks on him.
0818 01:22:39:16 01:22:41:06
It
went further and further...
0819 01:22:41:09 01:22:46:11
...making
me ruder and ruder
and
ever more miserable.
0820 01:22:46:14 01:22:50:05
I
did more and more things
to
get noticed by him.
0821 01:22:50:08 01:22:52:23
It
was just really...
0822 01:23:18:18 01:23:24:10
We
have gathered here today
to
say farewell to Mr. Thije Kok.
0823 01:23:24:13 01:23:28:14
His
daughter Yvonne
would
like to say a few words.
0824 01:23:45:16 01:23:47:09
Dear
Dad.
0825 01:23:47:12 01:23:53:04
There
were many things I never
understood,
but I did love you dearly.
0826 01:23:54:07 01:23:57:13
You
were my tower of strength.
0827 01:23:57:16 01:24:00:13
A
striking personality.
0828 01:24:00:16 01:24:05:23
A
resistance fighter and a soldier
in
heart and soul with an iron will.
0829 01:24:06:01 01:24:09:07
Yet
a romantic too, a dreamer.
0830 01:24:10:04 01:24:12:19
You
could sit and stare for hours...
0831 01:24:12:22 01:24:16:17
...contemplating
all kinds of things
when
I asked you about them.
0832 01:24:16:20 01:24:18:05
You
loved the autumn...
0833 01:24:18:08 01:24:22:08
...because
it contains the seeds
of
new life next spring.
0834 01:24:22:11 01:24:25:05
"Look
at those buds
on
trees and bushes..."
0835 01:24:25:08 01:24:28:12
This
is all make-believe.
0836 01:24:29:04 01:24:34:12
Should
I tell her or should I just leave it?
Do
you want to hear this when you're 72?
0837 01:24:36:23 01:24:39:18
I
don't want to ruin Dad for Vonnie.
0838 01:24:39:21 01:24:42:10
I'd
really rather not have found out.
0839 01:24:43:06 01:24:45:07
Your
home was your castle.
0840 01:24:46:13 01:24:49:24
In
your final years,
you
became increasingly bitter.
0841 01:24:50:02 01:24:54:08
You
got more and more isolated
because
you felt misunderstood.
0842 01:24:55:22 01:24:58:20
I
think he was caught up in his own lies.
0843 01:24:58:23 01:25:03:22
That's
why he was silent
during
those final years.
0844 01:25:04:00 01:25:08:05
I
can see now why he was always silent
and
just sat there in his chair.
0845 01:25:08:08 01:25:12:10
You
were so sad and you cried a lot,
especially
towards the end.
0846 01:25:12:13 01:25:15:21
So
many things happened,
one
after the other...
0847 01:25:15:24 01:25:21:19
...which
I question more and more
as
I get older.
0848 01:25:22:06 01:25:27:02
"How
on earth could that happen?
It's
still beyond me."
0849 01:25:30:10 01:25:34:00
But
then what's the point
of
stirring it all up again?
0850 01:25:35:06 01:25:41:12
With
regard to Dad it does feel a little
as
if I'm spilling the beans.
0851 01:25:41:16 01:25:43:19
Something
like that.
-
To who?
0852 01:25:43:22 01:25:48:01
To
the world... To everyone.
0853 01:25:52:14 01:25:57:05
Ladies
and gentlemen, if any of you
wants
to add a few words...
0854 01:25:57:08 01:26:00:05
...I'm
inviting you to step forward now.
0855 01:26:46:07 01:26:49:15
The
more I'm finding out in my research...
0856 01:26:50:17 01:26:53:02
...the
more disappointed I get.
0857 01:26:57:01 01:26:59:17
Dad
and I are so much alike.
0858 01:27:02:04 01:27:04:22
And
I'm thinking to myself:
0859 01:27:06:11 01:27:08:03
So
who is Viggo?
0860 01:27:14:15 01:27:20:16
I
would like to have a nice
family
get-together.
0861 01:27:20:19 01:27:25:05
I
guess it won't happen,
but
I would like it very much.
0862 01:27:25:08 01:27:31:07
I'd
love to have a family Christmas or
a
family weekend in some rented cottage.
0863 01:27:31:10 01:27:34:19
I
guess it won't happen,
but
I would like it very much.
0864 01:27:45:03 01:27:50:13
Since
you rang me three years ago
after
all those years to renew our contact...
0865 01:27:50:16 01:27:56:21
...I've
done everything I could
to
have a brother-sister relationship...
0866 01:27:56:24 01:28:01:19
...rather
than being your therapist
or
your carer.
0867 01:28:01:22 01:28:04:24
I
just want to be your sister. Nothing else.
0868 01:28:06:04 01:28:12:01
I
don't want to get into the same pattern
as
all the other members of our family.
0869 01:28:12:13 01:28:18:00
We
can break out of this, you and I,
we
can change, we can put an end to it.
0870 01:28:21:09 01:28:23:15
We
can change it.
0871 01:28:25:04 01:28:29:02
But
we can never be the brother
and
sister we were back then.
0872 01:28:29:20 01:28:32:20
We
can't be like that anymore.
0873 01:28:32:23 01:28:38:13
We've
been apart too long and we've gone
through
things that were just too weird.
0874 01:28:58:14 01:29:01:04
Academy
for Psychodynamics
0875 01:29:01:07 01:29:04:11
I've
been out of the "wrong world"
for
four years now.
0876 01:29:04:14 01:29:09:12
I've
realized that my whole life will have been
wasted
if I don't do something with it.
0877 01:29:09:15 01:29:13:17
And
if I see Kirsten on her little island,
always
on the outside...
0878 01:29:13:20 01:29:15:13
...I
feel very guilty.
0879 01:29:15:16 01:29:20:09
Kirsten
retreated to her island
and
you stopped having feelings.
0880 01:29:20:12 01:29:24:00
It's
still like that.
It's
like I pretend I have feelings.
0881 01:29:25:21 01:29:28:13
I'm
acting my feelings.
0882 01:29:28:16 01:29:33:01
Yet
I can sense a desire to have feelings.
0883 01:29:34:15 01:29:36:14
Or
am I wrong?
0884 01:29:38:12 01:29:40:03
Of
course you're right.
0885 01:29:41:07 01:29:45:18
I
don't want to be who I am.
Or,
I don't want to be who I have become.
0886 01:29:45:21 01:29:47:18
I
want to be who I was.
0887 01:29:48:15 01:29:51:18
I'm
a very sweet and sensitive boy, really.
0888 01:29:52:20 01:29:56:12
But
I act like a mean, nasty asshole.
0889 01:29:58:07 01:30:03:20
You
see? It's what I've become.
But
somehow I just can't reverse it.