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I Am Sun Mu

Directed by Adam Sjöberg

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Sun Mu, a former North Korean propaganda artist, escaped the country in the 1990s. He is one of the first North Korean artists to be able to share his art with the world.

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A professor told me that I look South Korean by appearance, but I was North Korean by heart.

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I replied, "Yeah, you are right.

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I am a North Korean inside out,

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and I don't want to deny it."

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I want my friends and family back in North Korea

to live a better life.

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I long for a world where people in North Korea and South Korea live peacefully.

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It's not like I'm putting myself in danger on purpose.

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I've just been doing what I have to do.

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This is just what I'm destined for.

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I AM SUN MU

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Sun Mu has been offered a solo exhibition in a Beijing gallery. It will be the first time a North Korean has exhibited their art in China without the supervision of the North Korean government.

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4 Months until Sun Mu’s exhibit in Beijing

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Yuan Art Museum

Beijing, China

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Whenever I come to China, the nervousness and fear that I had 10 years ago comes right back.

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Of course it's less than it was 10 years ago,

but that memory is still vivid.

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I feel like every time I come back to China it will be like this.

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I work in hiding, but also publicly.

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That's what makes art so fun.

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Even if you work in the dark, it doesn't stay in the dark.

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It becomes public.

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It's fun.

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I like it.

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I had my first exhibition upon graduating college.

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It caught the media's attention.

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Then during my first solo exhibition, the media came again and wrote about my artwork.

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I created a piece,

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there's a bedridden Kim Jong Il,

and a kid is handing him a coke bottle.

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It's called 'Take Some Medicine.’

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That was published in Time magazine.

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So far I've had exhibits in

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Berlin.

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Interviewer: Why don't you show your face?

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Well, if I showed my face in public

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it is clear that my parents and siblings living in North Korea

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will be in danger.

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This damn world hasn't allowed me to present myself publicly,

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That's the only reason I can't reveal who I am.

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"There is nothing to envy in the world."

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Seoul, South Korea

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Angela

Sun Mu’s Wife

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When I first met him, I didn't like him that much.

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He came wearing socks that had holes in them

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and it was winter, so he wore two sets of long johns,

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and two sweaters,

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and a jacket that had lost all its insulating cotton.

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We started dating

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and I was so curious.

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It was my first time meeting a defector.

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I didn't even know there was such a thing as a

North Korean defector.

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I also had experienced a lot of heartbreak within my family.

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But I realized he had experienced a different kind of heartbreak.

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My kids are so blessed to have Sun Mu as a dad.

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He's very thoughtful, and is like a friend to them.

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One time, they asked where their grandma was.

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So I wanted to express that situation.

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Grandma is in that neighborhood up north, but we can't go because of the barbed wire.

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This is my first daughter.

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Whenever talk of her grandma comes up, she wants to send a letter in the mail,

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but it can't be delivered.

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So I expressed the reality of north and south through this.

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Il Gon

Sun Mu’s Friend

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In North Korea there's no such thing as contemporary art.

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His experiences in North Korea are part of his style

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but what he has felt here in the south

has also been mixed into his style.

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If Korean reunification were to suddenly happen, I think it would resemble Sun Mu's paintings.

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Sungkok Art Museum

Seoul, South Korea

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My name is Cui Xianji.

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This is a retrospective of my artwork.

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Cui Xianji

Chinese-Korean Artist

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A retrospective of an artist in his 50s,

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and I get to show and look back on all the artwork I have made thus far.

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Because I'm second generation Korean-Chinese

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I know Korea better than other Chinese people,

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and I know China better than any other Koreans.

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It was 2008 when I originally met Sun Mu.

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I was at the Busan Biennale in 2008

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and there was an incident.

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The night before the opening ceremony, Sun Mu's painting was withdrawn.

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The flag is upside down.

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The flag suggests the country is backwards.

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My hands were trembling when I was painting this piece.

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I always had a fear that someone might sneak up behind me and stab me.

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It took a lot of courage.

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There can be a fight between the artist and the audience.

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And in this fight based on misunderstanding, I was in the middle.

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Only I could understand both sides.

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People make it all politicized whenever

there is any image of North Korea.

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But that's my life story.

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Beijing, China

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My name is Liang Kegang.

I am the director of Beijing Yuan Art Museum.

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I have worked at the Yuan Gallery for three years, and the gallery has been here for six years.

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Last year, artist Cui Xianji introduced me to Sun Mu.

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When I heard that he is an artist who defected from North Korea,

I became very interested.

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Mansudae Art Museum

Official North Korean Art Gallery

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In Beijing, there are many North Korean artists who draw their government's propaganda.

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Those paintings look very funny

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They are like the Chinese propaganda of 40 years ago during the Cultural Revolution.

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I had never met an artist who escaped North Korea and now does real contemporary art.

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Ever since they started the “Six Party Talks,” it's never gone right.

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But I was thinking, what if it were little children?

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If it were little children, wouldn't they just hold hands and play around together?

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He didn't paint the suffering and present only the wounds,

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but he painted hope, a beautiful thing. This is very precious.

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At the end of 2013, I went to Seoul with Cui Xianji,

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and in Seoul, I paid a visit to Sun Mu's studio.

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When I entered his studio, it was very good work.

I liked it very much.

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So I decided to do a solo exhibition for him.

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Cui Xianji has offered to host Sun Mu in his studio in Beijing while he prepares for his exhibit.

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North Korea is bound to know about this exhibit, since there's a North Korean embassy there.

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To be honest, this exhibition worries me a lot.

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I felt I had to give him my approval,

but we will have to be very cautious.

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9 weeks until Sun Mu’s exhibit in Beijing.

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Beijing, China

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When I first saw the gallery it seemed really big, and I had a lot of stories in my mind.

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I thought I want to have an exhibition in a place like this,

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I could really go all out in a place like this, especially in Beijing.

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An exhibition in China really means a lot to me.

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Not only for me, but it will be the same for every defector.

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When they heard about the exhibition, other North Korean defectors asked,

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"Won't it be dangerous?"

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It's on everybody's mind.

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I am very concerned about how many risks it will bring me.

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It's hard to know because the North Korean government is very unreasonable.

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They'd bomb a passenger flight, or kidnap a Japanese teacher so they can teach Japanese in North Korea.

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Cui Xianji’s Stuido

Outskirts of Beijing

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This place means a lot to me.

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On my second day in Beijing, I wrote 'heaven' on the wall when I was drunk.

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I wanted to support Sun Mu in any possible way.

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We were sharing the same space and working together,

and it was so much fun.

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Growing up, we were in an environment where all the learning was based on Marx, Lenin, and Mao's ideas.

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But now I value my ideas more than theirs.

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Sun Mu has found freedom in this studio, and has found a person who completely supports him.

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Without my brother, I don't think I would have been able to have my exhibition in Beijing.

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That's real barbed wire.

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Did you take them from the DMZ border?

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-Yes.

-Psh.

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It's really from the border!

That's why it means so much!

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Be careful! The barbs are really sharp.

I don't want you to get hurt.

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They had just replaced the barbed wires

that used to fence off the DMZ.

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Think about it, those fences were there for decades.

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I felt like I could say many things with these old barbed wires, so I took some.

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I made flowers using the wires.

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Interviewer: When you left North Korea for China

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what was the thing that surprised you most?

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Lights.

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The glittering lights.

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Plastic bags blowing in the wind.

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Is this rotten capitalism?

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Is this the rotten capitalism the North has been talking about?

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Why are so many lights on?

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I thought, "Did I make the wrong decision?

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Maybe what I see isn't reality?"

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In my heart I still believed Kim Il Sung and Kim Jong Il.

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Interviewer: How long was it before you realized what you learned in North Korea was a lie?

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About 10 years.

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Still to this day.

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This is me when I was young.

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I used to sing since preschool.

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I was on a team that travels all over North Korea,

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performing in front of whole schools, or whole villages, pretty much anywhere.

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Around the age of 8 or 9

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I turned on the TV and saw Kim Il Sung

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with a bunch of kids who had excelled at singing, dancing, painting, and writing.

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Kim Il Sung was patting them on the back.

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I thought to myself, "I can do that too."

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"I can do that well,

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and I can give Kim Il Sung pleasure!"

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And that's how I started.

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Interviewer: Did you ever get punished for drawing something you weren't supposed to draw?

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Since I was a good student, I didn't draw anything I wasn't supposed to.

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There are things you can't draw.

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You can't draw Kim Jong Il,

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and you wouldn't even dream about drawing naked women.

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I did draw Kim Il Sung once.

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It was when I was in high school.

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If I got caught, I would have been killed.

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So I locked my door and drew Kim Il Sung.

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I thought I could draw him well, too.

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Even my parents didn't know.

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I proved to myself that I have the skills to draw Kim Il Sung exactly like his portrait.

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But before it was even dry, I burned it.

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When I first joined the army,

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I learned that they select the ones that are good at writing and drawing from the new recruits.

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One day they said, "Stand up if you are good at writing or drawing."

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He asked if I could work on a poster for one day.

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I answered that I could whip something like that up in an hour.

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He didn't believe me at first.

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Anyways, they ended up giving me one day

to work on this small poster.

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I said to them, "I can do this."

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So I did it.

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They said, "A real talent has joined the military."

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3 weeks until Sun Mu’s exhibit in Beijing.

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The blueprint hasn't been given to me yet.

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Cui: So you are thinking about a week for the installation process?

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Sun Mu: A week should do it.

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I'm going to install everything first

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and have my wife come the day before the opening.

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Another question,

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will he be safe if he lives in Wangjing during the days of the exhibition?

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Well, no one has to know who I am, right?

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I'm not going to meet anyone.

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Ask him if he wants to go out and take a look at my pieces

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so he can have an idea of how we would set up.

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Okay, let's go.

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The wires become music scores.

-Great.

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Wow, music comes out too?

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Yeah, that's my theme song.

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How big is it?

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It's 5 meters wide.

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I thought I should try this at least once.

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I wanted to express the North Korean situation to people as they come into the exhibition.

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So I intended to put these words at the entrance so the visitors have to step on the words

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before coming in to see my artwork.

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The three names representing the supreme dignity of North Korea are written there

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Kim Il Sung, Kim Jong Il, and Kim Jong Un.

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No one would even dream about stepping on those names.

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I'm sure North Koreans staying in China,

like embassy staffers will come.

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They will have to step on it if they want to see the exhibition.

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That might be pretty funny.

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My exhibition won't make this art museum shut down down permanently, right?

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I'm okay with my exhibition being shut down...

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All this stuff, it's not possible this would shut it down?

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He says that's not going to happen.

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So many spies are in the Wangjing district, where our art museum is located.

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If they know about the information about the exhibition

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I think they will find the government to stop it.

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Student Protests

Beijing, 1989

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Interviewer: So what do you remember from that night?

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I don't want to say it.

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Sorry.

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It has had a big influence on me.

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By the next day, we heard that many university students had died in Beijing the night before.

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I don't know the exact death toll,

because the whole history has been wiped out in China.

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In China, it's risky to be a good artist.

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I have been taking the risk for over 20 years, since I went to college.

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Artists like us are considered sensitive, and are strictly supervised by the government.

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This is my daughter. Her name is Liang Xiao Me.

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This is my son.

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His name is Liang Ji Yen.

And we always call him Little Stone.

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But in China, to be an artist may be the only way

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you can feel a little feeling about freedom.

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I've watched various documentaries about

space and the universe since defecting.

228

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Watching those, I felt this earth that we live on

is a mere speck of dust

229

00:41:03,324 --> 00:41:14,990

but the humans living here are arguing,

fighting, and killing each other.

230

00:41:15,990 --> 00:41:20,390

What a shame before the eyes of the aliens.

231

00:41:32,124 --> 00:41:38,124

The stars here are not the same as the stars in my hometown.

232

00:41:39,690 --> 00:41:50,224

There, stars were like a splash of white paint on a black canvas.

233

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There was the Milky Way, and sometimes I could see stars moving, which I later found out were satellites.

234

00:41:59,424 --> 00:42:05,224

That was good. Looking up at the night sky and viewing the stars.

235

00:42:07,124 --> 00:42:16,890

Back then, I dreamt of being an astronaut and visiting the galaxy.

236

00:42:19,290 --> 00:42:24,324

Visiting the moon and stars as an astronaut.

237

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That's when I was young.

238

00:42:28,490 --> 00:42:36,624

Now when I see the night sky,

I feel just a fraction of what I felt as a boy.

239

00:42:49,890 --> 00:43:00,390

My hometown was in the countryside so it had mountains, rivers, and goats living in the hills.

240

00:43:08,190 --> 00:43:17,824

After Kim Il Sung died, we had such torrential rainfall

and we lost a lot of crops.

241

00:43:21,990 --> 00:43:28,390

The rations provided by the government started getting delayed.

242

00:43:28,824 --> 00:43:30,024

At first it was for 1 month...

243

00:43:30,024 --> 00:43:30,990

2 months...

244

00:43:31,424 --> 00:43:32,124

3 months...

245

00:43:32,124 --> 00:43:34,590

It kept getting delayed.

246

00:43:39,490 --> 00:43:46,890

I don't think it was caused by Kim Il Sung's death.

247

00:43:49,724 --> 00:43:55,924

Maybe Kim Jong Il used all those resources

to secure his new regime

248

00:43:55,924 --> 00:43:59,890

or for his leisure.

249

00:44:15,290 --> 00:44:20,724

So many people didn't get the food that

should have been distributed.

250

00:44:22,590 --> 00:44:28,590

Every day we'd hear, "So and so in the next house has died."

251

00:44:29,790 --> 00:44:31,690

"And someone in that house died too."

252

00:44:32,690 --> 00:44:36,924

Looking from the outside, they were way too naive.

253

00:44:36,924 --> 00:44:39,790

All they did was work.

254

00:44:39,924 --> 00:44:47,290

But in spite of their hard work,

they always struggle for food.

255

00:44:48,424 --> 00:44:50,824

It breaks my heart.

256

00:47:31,590 --> 00:47:40,590

I think this exhibition will become my first step to more exhibitions.

257

00:47:40,590 --> 00:47:44,224

A stepping stone.

258

00:47:44,224 --> 00:47:46,924

A transformation point.

259

00:47:47,124 --> 00:47:54,524

I was not sure if this exhibition would even be possible.

260

00:47:54,924 --> 00:48:02,924

I was nervous that there would be problems before it even starts.

261

00:48:11,124 --> 00:48:18,590

As we installed the work,

it hit me that my exhibition will really happen.

262

00:48:20,624 --> 00:48:23,990

So I'm really happy.

263

00:48:31,590 --> 00:48:38,490

I think he is largely motivated by the desire

for freedom and a better life.

264

00:48:44,924 --> 00:48:49,124

He is fortunate to have defected successfully,

because I guess about 9 out of 10 defectors fail.

265

00:48:49,124 --> 00:48:53,924

And failure could mean death.

266

00:48:55,724 --> 00:48:57,490

This right here...

267

00:48:57,724 --> 00:49:09,390

Once I crossed the Tumen River into China,

I started writing down all my thoughts and feelings.

268

00:49:13,390 --> 00:49:15,624

"Today is July 1st.

269

00:49:16,290 --> 00:49:22,624

Under the street lamps, the signs of restaurants are lit up along the street

270

00:49:23,224 --> 00:49:29,324

the light is coming into my empty room

where I am sitting at the window, smoking.

271

00:49:29,990 --> 00:49:35,790

Hey, you. What are you thinking about?

Are you missing the hometown you've left behind?

272

00:49:35,790 --> 00:49:39,490

Or are you dreaming about

the new land you will soon enter?

273

00:49:39,490 --> 00:49:43,590

The cigarette is burned out

and I'm left with only ashes.

274

00:49:44,590 --> 00:49:49,290

I flick my ash and stare out the window, silently.

275

00:49:49,290 --> 00:49:52,890

Well, I have no one to talk to anyway."

276

00:49:54,124 --> 00:49:59,924

I didn't have any intention of running away,

because I thought North Korea was a great country.

277

00:50:00,590 --> 00:50:03,224

I was just hungry.

278

00:50:08,390 --> 00:50:13,424

One day, I climbed the mountain.

279

00:50:13,890 --> 00:50:18,990

I made it to the top, and the view was overlooking a city in China.

280

00:50:23,524 --> 00:50:27,490

I hid in the tobacco field and waited for night to come.

281

00:50:32,524 --> 00:50:36,624

In that moment, everything including the sound of the insects sounded so loud.

282

00:50:42,424 --> 00:50:44,724

I was staying silent,

283

00:50:44,724 --> 00:50:48,290

nervous that guards might be nearby.

284

00:50:50,290 --> 00:50:53,290

After what felt like an eternity...

285

00:50:53,790 --> 00:50:55,124

Let's go.

286

00:50:55,124 --> 00:50:57,390

I am being too hesitant.

287

00:50:58,324 --> 00:51:02,624

With all my fears and worries,

I put my feet into the river.

288

00:51:07,990 --> 00:51:11,124

On the North Korean side the river wasn't that deep

289

00:51:11,124 --> 00:51:15,390

But closer to the Chinese side, the riverbed fell away beneath me.

290

00:51:16,324 --> 00:51:18,124

So I swam.

291

00:51:21,124 --> 00:51:26,124

I was right beneath the Polaris star and the moon.

292

00:51:26,124 --> 00:51:31,490

Looking at them, I started my journey.

293

00:51:47,424 --> 00:51:52,333

Even until right before I crossed the river, I was certain that I'd come back.

294

00:51:53,524 --> 00:51:57,924

But after I crossed the river, I went up the mountain

and was wringing out my clothes,

295

00:51:57,924 --> 00:52:01,490

I was looking back at North Korea,

296

00:52:01,990 --> 00:52:06,124

and I thought, "Maybe I won't be able to go back."

297

00:52:15,990 --> 00:52:22,924

If I were to get caught in China,

I would get sent back to North Korea anyway.

298

00:52:24,990 --> 00:52:29,890

Well then, South Korea is my land too,

so maybe I've got to go to the south.

299

00:52:31,390 --> 00:52:33,290

I thought that way would be better.

300

00:52:33,290 --> 00:52:35,824

Even if I die, it's better to choose my own way.

301

00:52:36,390 --> 00:52:38,124

So I left.

302

00:52:44,624 --> 00:52:48,724

I wanted to go to South Korea, but I didn't know how.

303

00:52:56,224 --> 00:52:59,490

It took about a week to get out of China.

304

00:53:06,590 --> 00:53:08,790

I got close to the border

305

00:53:08,790 --> 00:53:12,724

and I was trying to figure out how to get across.

306

00:53:12,724 --> 00:53:16,390

There was a bus that was going along the border.

307

00:53:18,724 --> 00:53:25,624

I thought if I hop off that bus after about 15 minutes,

we would be at the right place.

308

00:53:26,390 --> 00:53:32,190

So that's what I did. I got off and snuck across the border into Laos.

309

00:53:48,990 --> 00:53:55,724

Once I made it safely to Thailand, all I did was art until I went to South Korea.

310

00:53:57,958 --> 00:54:01,124

I still have a few pieces I drew back then.

311

00:54:08,790 --> 00:54:12,124

I was assigned to live in Gongju, South Korea.

312

00:54:12,124 --> 00:54:19,424

I was trying to meet up with South Korean artists,

and soon found an art museum in Gongju.

313

00:54:19,890 --> 00:54:25,324

The owner suggested that I apply to a nearby school

in Chungnam province

314

00:54:25,324 --> 00:54:30,590

but I wanted to go to a Hongik University in Seoul.

315

00:54:30,590 --> 00:54:37,890

I went there and asked what I had to prepare,

and they said the drawing test was all I had to take.

316

00:54:39,024 --> 00:54:41,490

I was confident.

317

00:54:42,390 --> 00:54:45,590

I went back and took the test

318

00:54:45,590 --> 00:54:47,424

and then they sent me my acceptance letter.

319

00:54:47,490 --> 00:54:55,324

"Hong-ik University graduation picture"

320

00:54:57,390 --> 00:55:02,124

I realized that I too have a story to tell the world.

321

00:55:02,124 --> 00:55:09,290

I too have a reason for my existence.

322

00:55:09,790 --> 00:55:13,875

This is all I know how to do,

so I'll just keep doing what I do.

323

00:55:14,724 --> 00:55:18,390

I am going to use this to tell my story.

00:55:34:11 --> 00:55:41:13

TITLE CARD:

2 days until Sun Mu’s exhibit in Beijing.

324

00:56:34,167 --> 00:56:38,290

I'm someone who takes risks.

325

00:56:38,290 --> 00:56:45,124

I can't stop an exhibition that I like so much

just because of risks.

326

00:56:46,924 --> 00:56:50,990

Whatever, that's my attitude.

327

00:56:58,490 --> 00:57:04,824

Interviewer: Do you think there will be any threats on the day of the event?

328

00:57:05,690 --> 00:57:08,124

Yes. I'm sure there will be a threat.

329

00:57:08,124 --> 00:57:16,490

But I don't want to let them know who this crazy Sun Mu guy is and where he lives.

330

00:57:17,690 --> 00:57:21,590

Sun Mu told me if he got caught, he would kill himself

331

00:57:21,590 --> 00:57:25,324

because he doesn't want to incriminate his family.

332

00:57:25,324 --> 00:57:28,324

He doesn't want the government to find out who he is.

333

00:57:28,524 --> 00:57:32,824

That's why I can't be there as Sun Mu at the opening ceremony.

334

00:57:34,124 --> 00:57:36,324

I can't be there, but my artwork will.

335

00:57:36,324 --> 00:57:38,124

That's the same as me being there.

336

00:57:40,490 --> 00:57:44,624

Interviewer: Can you tell us the meaning of the piece with the fish on a chopping board?

337

00:57:50,590 --> 00:57:54,324

On a huge chopping board, there's a little fish

338

00:57:54,324 --> 00:57:55,890

It's a boring fish

339

00:57:55,890 --> 00:57:59,290

and big knives are pointing their blades at the little fish.

340

00:57:59,290 --> 00:58:02,024

Who knows how that little fish will get sliced up?

341

00:58:02,024 --> 00:58:07,490

I want to talk about how a powerful nation will carve off a bigger chunk with a bigger knife,

342

00:58:07,490 --> 00:58:10,390

and smaller nations get smaller chunks.

343

00:58:26,324 --> 00:58:33,990

Interviewer: Are you worried that your family could be in danger if they are with you?

344

00:58:34,390 --> 00:58:45,290

I do worry a little, but when I'm with them I'm not Sun Mu the artist, I'm just the head of my family.

345

00:58:48,490 --> 00:58:53,324

Well, I'm not sure if the Chinese government would acknowledge that difference.

346

00:58:55,390 --> 00:59:05,190

We will just be a nice happy family traveling around China.

347

00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:16,490

Safety is the biggest concern for me, since we're talking about family.

348

00:59:16,824 --> 00:59:24,324

I don't have any room to worry about anything else but the safety of our family.

349

00:59:26,390 --> 00:59:29,224

I hope my husband does well

350

00:59:29,224 --> 00:59:32,924

but to be honest I'm worried about this exhibition.

351

00:59:41,024 --> 00:59:44,190

It's not like I'm putting myself in danger purposely.

352

00:59:44,724 --> 00:59:49,724

I'm just doing what I have to do.

01:00:41:09 --> 01:00:46:13

TITLE CARD:

The day before Sun Mu’s exhibit in Beijing.

353

01:01:14,424 --> 01:01:19,990

I have to cut this giant board into pieces

354

01:01:23,124 --> 01:01:26,590

all around here.

355

01:01:26,890 --> 01:01:27,924

Isn't it fun?

01:01:35:18 --> 01:01:39:00

TITLE CARD:

Ho Bin

Sun Mu’s Assistant

356

01:01:38,890 --> 01:01:42,375

If we take a look at this piece

357

01:01:43,990 --> 01:01:46,490

It reads, "The view is good, but it's also a good place to live"

358

01:01:46,490 --> 01:01:49,490

And there's a sassy girl looking back.

359

01:01:49,490 --> 01:01:55,690

Her attire of a red scarf and ribbon in her hair

360

01:01:55,690 --> 01:02:00,124

shows that she's a typical North Korean student.

361

01:02:01,390 --> 01:02:04,124

But this "good place to live" is not the North Korea we know.

362

01:02:04,124 --> 01:02:08,990

So when people read this they might ask,

"Does the artist even know North Korea?"

363

01:02:09,790 --> 01:02:16,490

Interviewer: What genre do you think

Sun Mu belongs to as an artist?

364

01:02:16,990 --> 01:02:20,290

I'll give a simple answer.

365

01:02:20,390 --> 01:02:22,724

Political pop art.

366

01:02:23,390 --> 01:02:27,224

I don't know a thing about pop art.

367

01:02:27,290 --> 01:02:33,490

I just do this, or I do that, whatever I feel like doing.

368

01:02:33,490 --> 01:02:37,290

I have no intention of defining my art as pop art.

369

01:02:37,390 --> 01:02:40,390

I don't know and I'm not interested.

370

01:02:40,490 --> 01:02:44,290

Interviewer: Who is your biggest influence?

371

01:02:44,924 --> 01:02:47,824

I don't have anyone who influences me.

372

01:02:47,824 --> 01:02:49,624

Oh wait, there is.

373

01:02:50,190 --> 01:02:52,924

Kim Il Sung and Kim Jong Il.

374

01:02:54,724 --> 01:02:57,790

Is that funny?

375

01:03:16,124 --> 01:03:20,890

Wow, the press release on your exhibition has been viewed by 16,000 people.

376

01:03:20,890 --> 01:03:24,690

It's spreading from person to person.

377

01:03:26,390 --> 01:03:28,890

That's cool you can get those numbers.

378

01:03:30,890 --> 01:03:42,390

Tomorrow there will be an opening reception, and after that we have the performance, right?

379

01:03:42,824 --> 01:03:46,290

Yes, maybe like this

380

01:03:46,990 --> 01:03:53,124

First, the opening. We start at four.

381

01:03:53,124 --> 01:03:57,524

But it will be 4:30 when everyone gets here.

We won't have much time.

382

01:03:57,524 --> 01:04:03,424

I'll make an opening announcement at 4:30, marking the start of the exhibition.

383

01:04:03,424 --> 01:04:09,124

The first thing to do is play his songs.

384

01:04:10,390 --> 01:04:16,424

After the songs, it's the performance of the children, they will release the flag.

385

01:04:16,724 --> 01:04:21,724

After the performance, it's his thank you speech.

386

01:04:21,890 --> 01:04:25,790

So after the flag performance, we'll hear your words of gratitude.

387

01:04:25,790 --> 01:04:27,124

The one we recorded, right?

388

01:04:27,124 --> 01:04:28,324

Yes.

389

01:04:28,924 --> 01:04:43,990

Tomorrow, I might come with a group of visitors and drift off without letting anyone know.

390

01:04:44,224 --> 01:04:48,290

He's thinking about pretending to be security.

391

01:04:48,324 --> 01:04:49,524

He should get his hair cut.

392

01:04:50,424 --> 01:04:53,790

We better be careful tomorrow.

393

01:04:53,790 --> 01:05:00,190

Since the kids are too young to know what's going on,

once they catch sight of Sun Mu

394

01:05:00,190 --> 01:05:03,390

they might give away Sun Mu's identity right away.

395

01:05:03,624 --> 01:05:07,624

So then as soon as the ceremony ends,

I'll take the kids upstairs.

396

01:05:18,324 --> 01:05:24,990

I wish he wouldn't come to the opening to be completely honest.

397

01:05:24,990 --> 01:05:30,124

I even had a dream that during the opening he is captured and taken away.

398

01:05:33,290 --> 01:05:37,490

Sometimes I can't sleep because of that fear.

01:06:20:03 --> 01:06:24:13

TITLE CARD:

The day of Sun Mu’s exhibit in Beijing.

399

01:07:48,490 --> 01:07:55,424

I do want to go to the gallery and see how they've set it up.

400

01:07:57,324 --> 01:08:04,024

But I think the gallery wants me to stay quiet.

401

01:08:05,124 --> 01:08:12,924

So I'll have to lay down this title of Sun Mu for a bit

and go there as one of the visitors.

402

01:08:13,624 --> 01:08:16,857

I've put so much effort into all those pieces.

403

01:08:16,857 --> 01:08:25,207

And now we're coming to the opening...

404

01:08:26,924 --> 01:08:36,790

It's sad that I can't stand there in public and say, "I am Sun Mu."

405

01:08:40,124 --> 01:08:42,490

Because that's who I am.

406

01:08:51,292 --> 01:08:53,833

Has anybody from the government come by yet today?

407

01:08:55,250 --> 01:09:00,167

I think maybe in the morning two guys come here.

408

01:09:00,208 --> 01:09:01,792

Want to see first...

409

01:09:01,875 --> 01:09:05,792

I'm not sure who they are but from the clothes

410

01:09:05,833 --> 01:09:07,417

and the feeling...

411

01:09:07,792 --> 01:09:11,292

Seems like someone working in the government come here.

412

01:10:02,323 --> 01:10:05,157

I got a call saying that I shouldn't come out.

413

01:10:05,157 --> 01:10:08,790

It got Sun Mu and me all curious

414

01:10:08,924 --> 01:10:14,657

so I ignored the call and went out.

415

01:10:16,357 --> 01:10:21,924

Once I stepped out, I saw police officers all over the place.

416

01:10:21,924 --> 01:10:30,157

I chose to go to the coffee shop on the second floor instead of the first so as to not raise suspicion.

417

01:10:30,157 --> 01:10:35,657

On the second floor, I ran into Liang and Liang's wife, who were trying to hide.

418

01:10:38,290 --> 01:10:42,124

As I was thinking to myself that I should pick up a pamphlet,

419

01:10:42,124 --> 01:10:46,724

the owner of the coffeeshop asks

420

01:10:46,724 --> 01:10:50,124

"Isn't your husband the artist doing the exhibition?"

421

01:10:50,924 --> 01:10:54,290

I was so surprised. If I had stayed there any longer,

422

01:10:54,290 --> 01:11:04,157

they would soon find out how I'm linked to Sun Mu and I could become their hostage in no time.

423

01:11:11,124 --> 01:11:13,124

Ho Bin: Hello?

424

01:11:13,124 --> 01:11:16,124

The situation is,

425

01:11:18,624 --> 01:11:21,290

there are some people standing in front of the gallery

426

01:11:21,290 --> 01:11:24,790

and some are wearing North Korean pin badges.

427

01:11:24,790 --> 01:11:26,724

And there's Chinese police.

428

01:11:26,724 --> 01:11:30,424

They are having a conversation now.

429

01:11:31,624 --> 01:11:36,290

Cars and... a lot of police officers.

430

01:11:52,357 --> 01:12:00,424

I didn't get there until later, around 3:30.

431

01:12:00,424 --> 01:12:05,357

They began to stop people from getting into the museum.

432

01:12:05,624 --> 01:12:10,924

Ho Bin: Yes, Mr. Cui. Are you still staying around here?

433

01:12:10,924 --> 01:12:15,490

In my opinion, it'd be better if you stay away from here.

434

01:12:15,124 --> 01:12:20,224

Cui: I didin't even know what Sun Mu or we did wrong

435

01:12:20,224 --> 01:12:23,790

but with the crowd of Chinese police and North Koreans outside the gallery,

436

01:12:23,790 --> 01:12:25,557

the situation was confusing.

437

01:12:26,124 --> 01:12:28,290

But I thought, we're not criminals.

438

01:12:30,124 --> 01:12:36,790

There were North Koreans with Kim Il Sung badges

going here and there.

439

01:12:50,157 --> 01:12:54,424

Liang: There were many North Koreans outside of the museum.

440

01:12:55,724 --> 01:13:03,208

They brought many North Koreans with lapel pins on their chest. There were dozens of them.

441

01:13:04,042 --> 01:13:06,208

Why all the police?

442

01:13:07,790 --> 01:13:09,624

I don't know.

443

01:13:13,857 --> 01:13:15,557

Is this a non-profit exhibition?

444

01:13:15,557 --> 01:13:16,857

Yes, yes.

445

01:13:17,290 --> 01:13:20,290

Is this your full-time job or your part-time job?

446

01:13:20,290 --> 01:13:23,157

It's considered a full-time job.

447

01:13:23,790 --> 01:13:26,124

I met him at a workshop.

448

01:13:26,124 --> 01:13:30,357

Is he not there now?

449

01:13:30,990 --> 01:13:33,724

I just received his paintings.

450

01:13:34,490 --> 01:13:42,124

So this gentleman mailed his paintings to a Korean who knows you,

or is there someone else in between?

451

01:13:43,924 --> 01:13:48,424

Well, Mr. Liang, what I just asked first is...

452

01:13:48,857 --> 01:14:00,357

They started investigating. They interrogated me until really late, about 3 a.m.

453

01:14:07,724 --> 01:14:10,124

The streets near the gallery were shut down.

454

01:14:10,124 --> 01:14:16,624

People were only allowed to get out, not in, because the police were controlling it.

455

01:14:30,290 --> 01:14:37,124

The banners outside the gallery were torn down too, by people brought by the police.

456

01:14:38,290 --> 01:14:41,290

The whole thing happened very suddenly.

457

01:14:53,657 --> 01:15:00,424

We had a lot on our minds, and our bodies were trembling in fear.

458

01:15:00,424 --> 01:15:04,924

When we heard knocking on the door we were so scared,

thinking it might be the police.

459

01:15:12,167 --> 01:15:14,042

I'm staying back! I'm staying back.

460

01:15:52,424 --> 01:15:59,157

"The exhibition is shut down temporarily. Thank you for understanding."

01:16:03:05 --> 01:16:08:02

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The next morning.

01:17:54:08 --> 01:17:59:18

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Seoul, South Korea

461

01:18:16,124 --> 01:18:23,657

It looks like the North Koreans asked the Chinese authorities

462

01:18:24,990 --> 01:18:30,290

to put a stop to the whole exhibition.

463

01:18:30,657 --> 01:18:37,990

Looking at what happened that day, I think I underestimated the whole thing.

464

01:18:38,724 --> 01:18:43,157

I could have been captured.

465

01:18:45,224 --> 01:18:48,424

I did not expect all that.

466

01:18:59,224 --> 01:19:05,857

With the help of Cui's wife, we were able to change our flight tickets so we could leave right away.

467

01:19:08,357 --> 01:19:14,357

When we were in the taxi to the airport, I was worried about the possibility of someone following us

468

01:19:14,357 --> 01:19:26,490

and at the airport, I was worried that the officials might detain us.

469

01:19:34,924 --> 01:19:39,157

I even thought, "What if they stop us before we take off?"

470

01:19:39,157 --> 01:19:46,224

The feeling I had at the moment our plane finally took off is indescribable.

471

01:19:49,790 --> 01:20:01,857

At that time, I was worried that the North Korean government might do something merciless to me.

472

01:20:01,857 --> 01:20:06,490

They might send someone to do something sketchy. That's what I worry about.

473

01:20:07,224 --> 01:20:10,924

It did get me into a lot of trouble.

474

01:20:11,557 --> 01:20:23,624

I was summoned to the police station several times after that day,

which put me under a lot of pressure,

475

01:20:23,624 --> 01:20:29,924

and my phone was monitored for a while.

476

01:20:35,890 --> 01:20:39,690

There is no one in the Chinese art world that doesn't know about this exhibition.

477

01:20:44,057 --> 01:20:48,057

Now, everyone knows that there is a North Korean defector artist.

478

01:20:49,890 --> 01:20:57,024

I believe Sun Mu's art will eventually get into North Korea.

479

01:21:02,057 --> 01:21:05,890

"If you kill a rooster, the dawn will come nonetheless."

480

01:21:06,190 --> 01:21:09,057

That's how I see all of this unfolding.

01:21:29:17 --> 01:21:43:06

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After Sun Mu’s exhibition was shut down by the Chinese authorities, Liang was forced to place Sun Mu’s art in storage in Beijing under the supervision of the Chinese government.

01:21:38:07 --> 01:21:45:12

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It is unknown when he will be able to retrieve them.

481

01:22:13,890 --> 01:22:18,457

Interviewer: If you were able to go back to North Korea,

what would you want to do the most?

482

01:22:18,457 --> 01:22:25,690

I'd load up my car with a pig, rice, and booze

483

01:22:26,324 --> 01:22:32,557

and go and throw a big party in my hometown

484

01:22:33,324 --> 01:22:37,000

so we could all eat till our stomachs burst, for once.

01:22:50:06 --> 01:22:55:03

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Yeon Mi Jeong,

North Korea Lookout

Ganghwa-do, South Korea

485

01:23:26,324 --> 01:23:33,824

Interviewer: Is there something you want to do there,

if you were allowed?

486

01:23:34,690 --> 01:23:38,524

Well, I want to do an exhibition in Pyongyang.

487

01:23:46,824 --> 01:23:49,324

In my dream one day

488

01:23:49,024 --> 01:23:55,890

I found Kim Jong Il at a bar sitting by himself

in the corner, looking lonely.

489

01:23:56,124 --> 01:24:00,824

And I was dressed very nicely.

490

01:24:01,690 --> 01:24:06,057

I thought to myself, "I believed in that man once,

but he looks so shabby tonight."

491

01:24:06,557 --> 01:24:14,190

I tried to go and give him something to eat,

but his pride wouldn't let him take it.

492

01:24:17,024 --> 01:24:20,024

I have these dreams...

493

01:24:21,832 --> 01:24:28,824

On another day, I met Kim Jong Un in my dream.

494

01:24:29,824 --> 01:24:36,257

He said, "Hey, I'll help an esteemed artist like yourself

put on an exhibition in Pyongyang."

495

01:24:36,524 --> 01:24:39,124

I said, "Is that so?

496

01:24:39,124 --> 01:24:41,390

Well if that's what you say,

497

01:24:42,457 --> 01:24:44,390

it'll happen."

01:25:04:07 --> 01:25:12:06

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I AM SUN MU

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