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DIWANFILM presents |
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Milan Central Railway Station |
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Since one year |
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I’ve been expecting this day |
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So it’s arrived now |
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We thank God |
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for all the things he do |
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After spending one year |
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I’m going to the commission, for them to hear me |
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I’m a little bit worried |
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because I can’t go back to my country |
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We are not going there with our own power |
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We’re going there for them to help |
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Me and other people |
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I’m just going there |
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to beg them |
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so that they can give me the paper |
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so that I can stay |
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to find my future in Italy |
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It's still hard for me to believe |
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that this happened... |
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but I was there and I saw everything |
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IL RIFUGIO-The Shelter- |
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Montecampione - Italian Alps 1800 m. Above sea level |
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-All these shootings in Libya, |
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never happened |
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-Yes, it's true |
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-Black people used to go to Libya |
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there was a lot of work, a lot of money |
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-You could save money and send it to your family |
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-But who is right? Gaddafi supporters or the rebels? |
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-Gaddafi is a dictatorbut even the rebels aren’t any better... |
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-Wait! It's not like that... |
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-Freedom is not good for Libyans |
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-This is true... |
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-Libyans are rich |
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They only think about money and sex |
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-This kind of freedom |
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is the end for Libyans! |
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I am Moustapha, Moustapha Conta. From Gambia. |
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I came in Libya in 2006. I was in Libya for 5 years |
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I am an electrician |
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I had a workshop there |
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Before the war I was buying some tools |
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I wanted to enlarge it |
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to make it a big workshop |
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but unfortunately the war fell down there so… |
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I had to run out for my life! |
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My name is Edobor Amwamoussa |
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In Nigeria I’m a prophet, I’m a sevant of God |
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I walk with God |
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God give me the gift of prophecy |
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Father let your will be done, |
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in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit |
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I stayed in that place called Soukut in Misurata |
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Could you believe, one night soldiers came |
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Gaddafi soldiers, they know that so many blacks stay there |
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They arrested us, they say we should join soldiers |
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My name is Prince, I come from Nigeria |
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My occupation is football |
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This is my medal |
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when I played in Libya, in 2009 |
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My first award in Libya |
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You know when the war came in Libya |
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We are said we must hide |
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we can't come outside |
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Because when we come out |
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It will be a problem for us |
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because the people was telling us that Gaddafi is using mercenaries |
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to fight them |
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So we are black and we were in trouble |
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So that’s why we can’t move anyhow |
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What I know is that somebody just helped me |
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to hang over to someone |
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Someone pulled me in a boat, I didn’t pay |
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If people were paying money I don’t know |
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I didn’t experience that, I don’t know |
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They all arrived on the shores of Lampedusa from Libya |
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Carlo Cominelli Kpax NGO |
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They are part of the Libyan contingent |
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They were temporarily transferred to the refugee camp of Manduria |
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and then to Montecampione |
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My name is Giuseppe Fortunato |
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I am the manager of the Hotel LE BAITE in Montecampione |
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which is a touristic structure in all respects |
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It’s divided between vacation ownership, residence and a hotel |
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We are close to the skiing slopes |
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1800 meters above sea level |
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In the whole structure |
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we can easily accomodate six, seven hundred people |
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The structure is completely unsuited |
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to the reception of asylum seekers or refugees |
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In this case they're asylum seekers |
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For many reasons... |
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First of all because it is isolated |
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It's 1800 metres above sea level |
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there are 21 km of winding roads |
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It was self-evident that it would’ve been impossible |
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to provide proper assistance in this structure |
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I started visiting these refugees |
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at the end of the June, |
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when I was asked by the local health service |
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to give my availability |
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to come here |
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and to monitor the health of these guys. |
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The most common illnesses are those caused by the drop in temperature |
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We had 3 or 4 cases of pneumonia who have now recovered |
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some acute bronchitises... |
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-Try coughing |
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-Again... |
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-How often does he have a fever? |
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-he says a lot... in the evening and during the day as well |
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These guys come from Sub-Saharan Africa, 40 degrees Celsius |
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and they were sent here at the top of a mountain in Montecampione |
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at a time, expecially between July and August, |
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when the average temperature was about 10 degrees celsius |
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Let's hope that winter |
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will come as late as possible for these guys |
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I don't know if they will move them |
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or if they'll stay here |
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I don't know |
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The reason |
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for choosing this residence |
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there were no tenders or public offerings |
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It's evident that this is a money making scheme |
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which is ruled with a strategy which is becoming increasingly common |
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when it comes to emergencies |
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What happens... |
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what happens is that institutions decide not to decide |
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but given that the problem exists |
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and nobody wants to solve it |
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what's the solution? |
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To delegate to the private sector |
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At present, we have 111 guests |
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from 13 different countries |
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Nigeria, Cameroon, Senegal, Ivory Coast... |
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We provide them with internet stations |
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the possibility of using the phone during the day... |
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of course, always under our supervision |
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also to keep them calm |
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and to avoid quarrels and tensions |
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As far as the use of internetand the phone is concerned |
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we organize shifts |
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they follow these shifts |
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giving priority to those who haven’t made any calls yet |
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People who will come this afternoon, |
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if they have already called in the morning, |
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they will be asked to give prority to the others |
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This is not the way, |
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we can’t use only one office phone |
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115 people and only one particular phone?! |
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Imagine… for a day! |
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I come here every week |
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I can call my family for 5 minutes |
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Those 5 minutes cannot solve my problems |
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So my life is like that: no telephone calls, no internet |
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You don’t have anywhere to go, you’re staying in only one place… |
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They’ve never given us a 5 euro card to even call our family |
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We hear that in another camp they give maybe 5 or 10 or 15 euros |
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Here there’s nothing like that |
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To our eyes this may seem like an irrelevant problem |
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but it actually turns out to be a major issue for them |
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because with this pocket money |
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they can buy tobacco... |
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Smokers can buy cigarettes |
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they don't need to scrounge around... |
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They can buy telephone cards |
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So they can call their families without having to rely on us |
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5 euro is enough to buy a telephone card |
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with 2 lots of pocket money you can get one |
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which gives you 40 minutes of calling time abroad |
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So, it’s an easy way to keep in touch with one’s family. |
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Today I found 1 euro |
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People sit down here... |
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Yesterday I found 7 euros |
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The overall subsidy for a refugee is 46 euros |
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per person, per day... |
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For each day of stay a refugee brings 46 euros to his host |
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Assuming an average of one hundred people hosted |
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for 3 months... |
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the overall amount is about 500.000 euro |
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This is indeed a big business, |
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for a hotel which has no turnover |
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...15 people wounded in the clashes in Lampedusa |
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some Tunisians were attacked by the island's inhabitants |
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when they tried to put on fire a gas station |
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with some gas cylinders that they brought there... |
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Uhh, see Lampedusa? |
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The Tunisians, the Tunisians… |
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A man cannot sleep and wake up, sleep and wake up… |
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You’re going to be a lazy guy, do you know what I mean… |
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Even the Bible says: the hand that doesn’t work, should not eat |
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Here now... I’m thinking about myself |
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I’m thinking about back home |
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I’m thinking about my people, I’m thinking about my future |
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You know, I’m going very crazy |
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I don’t like it here, I’m very very tired! |
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I’m the only man in my family |
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How can I be here for three months?! |
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Without nothing…
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Eating, sleeping… I don’t like it! |
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The season is over, there's no more grass |
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Staying here in winter? |
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If they don't engage them in some activities |
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It will be hard... |
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I don't know how they’ll be able to manage... |
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We are tired here, we are tired! |
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We can’t move around! Why? |
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We can’t do anything:
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you sleep, you wake up, you see the cows… |
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You are lucky to have some place to sleep and some food to eat |
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Me, I have to pay for my food and where I sleep. |
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You don’t pay nothing! |
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-No, no: did we come here because of food? |
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We did not come here because of food! |
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Who sent them? |
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Who let them come here? |
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Had it been three or four of them it wouldn’t have mattered |
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but such an invasion has created problems |
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most of all at a psychological level… |
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Even the people that come from town, when they come, |
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they say it’s not a good place to stay |
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Here it’s not good, everybody knows here it’s not good! |
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We are tired here and we want to get out of this place |
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We are not interested in this place |
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We don’t want to break anything or make problems |
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We don’t need that: we want to do it our own way! |
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We acknowledge your protest |
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and we recognize your reasons |
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A delegate from each group |
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will be received today |
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by the highest authority of this municipality |
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in Brescia |
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This is the institution which has the power to decide |
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whether to transfer you to another place |
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Milan Central Railway Station One year later |
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A year has passed |
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since they reached the shores of Lampedusa |
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Now they're waiting for the verdict to come |
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they will find out whether they're allowed to stay in Italy |
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or if they’re refused by the commission |
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And they will therefore either be repatriated |
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or have the possibility of appealing against the decision |
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The country of origin isn’t always a point in favour of the applicant |
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because there are some informal indications, |
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which despite not being valid are always taken into consideration, |
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according to which some countries are not regarded |
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as a land from which one needs to seek asylum |
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Nigeria, for instance.. |
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Optimistically, I can assume that 35% of them |
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will obtain some form of humanitarian protection |
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Straight away |
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To this one might add, in case of appeal, |
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another 4 or 5% that will get the documents following a tribunal hearing |
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Anyway, for those whose claim will be rejected even after the appeal |
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the problem remains. |
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Looking at the statistics of this emergency |
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we can assume that more than tens of thousands of people |
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should be repatriated voluntarily or taken back to their contries of origin |
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in line with an exit plan |
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which Italy isn’t able to follow through and implement |
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So, what will become of them? |
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If they don’t find any solutions, |
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like an issuance of a humanitarian permit |
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these people will stay here and wander around
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without effectively having a legal status |
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and then they will be pushed underground by the system |
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Undoubtedly these people will be completely lost
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not understanding what they’ve been through |
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And that's it. |
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70 asylum seekers out of 115 got a 3 year humanitarian protection or refugee status |
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55 asylum seekers were refused protection and became illegal immigrants |
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