ROUGH AUNTIES –
Dialogue List With Timecodes
10:00:27:20
“There can be no keener revelation
of a society’s soul than the way in which it
treats its children” Nelson Mandela
10:01:14:20
TITLE
10:01:47:09
OPERATION BOBBI BEAR
DURBAN, SOUTH AFRICA
10:01:54:03
Mildred: You can take this bear home with you
It’s a friend you can talk to and
sleep with
If you remember anything, just write
on it
Now tell me your story
10:02:13:24
Pinky: Can I draw here?
M:
Yes, please
10:02:19:10
Let’s start by naming the body parts
10:02:24:21
MILDRED “SBO”
M:
What’s this?
P:
Head
M:
These?
P:
Ears Eyes Nose
Neck Arms Legs
Tummy
M:
And this?
P:
My thing!
M:
I know it’s not easy to name our private parts...
...but we need to know what happened
to you
10:03:02:15
Show me what Sifiso did using this
plaster and pen
Draw what he did to you
10:03:13:14
P:
He broke into my house by smashing a window
Then he got me by the throat
M:
Alright, let’s use the rubber band
Let’s put it round the neck
10:03:43:23
P:
He held me by the neck and took off my pants...
..then he took off his clothes
Then he pushed his penis in here
He was pressing really hard and then
he put it in my mouth
M:
Put a plaster there
P:
When I tried to bite it, he punched me
10:04:41:01
M:
Now that Sifiso is out on bail...
...how do you feel about it?
He’s out now
How do you feel?
P:
I’m too frightened to go to school
10:05:01:12
M: Sifiso is not allowed to be
anywhere near you
He shouldn’t be living there anymore
I’m going to talk to the Police so
that....
10:05:40:12
AT BOBBI BEAR, MILDRED WORKS WITH A
SMALL GROUP OF WOMEN
WHO FIGHT TO BRING CHILD RAPISTS TO
JUSTICE
10:05:53:15
Eureka: Inspector Kanilye, I’m extremely concerned about a case of
ours
It’s a case from last night
Where you went to arrest the
perpetrator and he was released
because he said the case was
withdrawn against him
10:06:06:14
EUREKA
Operation Bobbi Bear
Ok, but what about the second case?
What about 18 of 8 / 06?
That case is going forward, hey
10:06:15:07
There was penetration
There’s a J 88, there was penetration
Because in the meantime, we’ve got a
little victim out there who’s
...been raped by this man
He’s living next door to her, he’s
threatening her
This child is petrified. She keeps coming back to Bobbi Bear
I walk in here in the morning and
this child is sitting here
She’s petrified, she’s too scared to
be in her own house
‘cos this little man that raped her
is running around the community
and threatening her
Now he’s acting the big man and
saying
“There’s no case against me, it’s
withdrawn”
One case is withdrawn, but the
second one is definitely not withdrawn
10:06:56:16
How long ago did the docket go to
court?
Ok, I will track this docket
I will find out what is going on
with this docket
I want that man inside
Honestly, I need to have that man
arrested
Because he’s harassing the victim
So I’ll phone Umbumbulu now I’ll get
someone to work on this case
and get someone to help us
Thank you, Inspector Kanilye, good
bye
10:07:23:09
Mildred: He was supposed to stay at Kwamashu
10:07:32:21
E:
And he’s living back in the same area right next to the child
Sheini: Breaking bail conditions
E:
I’m not quite sure who’s protecting who and
who’s covering up for who, and
what’s going on, Mildred,
I don’t - I can’t answer you
I just can’t lose my temper with the
wrong people
in the wrong departments, because
future help won’t be given
They’re all running around trying to
find docket 18 of 8
Nobody’s got the docket
It hasn’t come back from court yet
10:08:00:11
M:
We’ve ended up doing the police job
And even if you do....
E:
Two years ago, a child was raped
10:08:06:09
Two years and we’re still looking
for a docket
10:08:11:02
Two years, and we still haven’t got
anywhere
10:08:26:16
Police Woman: Who’s going to drive the Chev? Zata.
10:08:32:12
We’ve got 12 suspects, we’re not
leaving until we have 10
We work as a team
Everybody got torches?
10:0842:03
Bullet-proof vests?
Got your vests. Have you got your firearms, most important?
10:08:53:13
BOBBI BEAR STAFF OFTEN WORK WITH THE
POLICE ON RAIDS,
BRINGING VICTIMS ALONG TO IDENTIFY
THEIR RAPISTS
10:09:03:20
Police: Where is he?
Is that him?
Man: What’s going on?
Man: He’s been asleep
P:
Wheres’ your ID?
10:09:21:10
Woman: What are you police doing
here?
Didn’t that girl’s father do it to
her first?
Why didn’t you arrest him?
P:
Switch off the TV!
W:
You never arrested her father!
And now you want my son
He wasn’t the first one Her father was!
You never got him! And now you want my son! Why not her father?
PW: Here, Dad, come stand here by me while I’m in the room
Man: Why?
P:
Stand here!
10:10:12:05
W: Why my son?
10:10:14:07
Mildred: You don’t talk like a parent, old woman
W:
I am a parent!
M:
You’re not acting like one!
If it had happened to you, how would
you feel?
Why are you defending him?
W:
I’m not. I know the father did it!
M:
Did you see it?
W:
I just heard
M:
If you only heard, shut up!
10:10:39:12
W:
You never arrested the father!
M:
If you don’t shut up, you’ll be
arrested
P:
Listen, old woman....
M:
She’s crazy!
P:
Keep quiet or we’ll arrest you!
10:10:58:19
P:
Is he here?
Are there more people sleeping here?
10:11:12:03
When did you last see Nkosikhona?
P:
Where is he?
Girl: He often comes here, but sleeps somewhere else
He’s got a room over there
PW:
Nkosikhona?
G:
He never stays here long
PW: There’s someone in their underwear there!
G:
That’s just my friend!
P: Where does Nkosikhona sleep?
G:
Down the road
10:11:43:12
PW: Police! Open up!
P:
Open up or we’ll break the door down!
PW:
Stand there!
10:11:53:22
P:
Wake up!
PW: Can she see him?
Which one?
W:
Is he here? Point him out to me
10:12:12:13
Girl: Can you light their faces?
That’s Nkosikhona
P:
Which one is Nkosikhona?
Nkosikhona: It’s me
10:12:43:08
Motorist: They’ve got you now, you bastard!
10:13:55:23
Grandmother: My heart burns for my granddaughter
I need to prove she’s been raped
10:14:02:07
I want justice for her, I love her
so much
It’s so painful, Sbo
10:14:12:04
Her mum entrusted her to me
10:14:14:20
Jackie: How many children did you have?
10:14:22:21
G:
There were two. He’s sick
too, ma’am
J:
So you’ve lost one child .
G:
Yes, and the other one is very sick
J:
Have you been for counselling?
G: No, ma’am
J: To lose a child is terrible
G:
I know
J:
I don’t know, I thank God, I don’t know
But I’m looking at you and I think,
you need help
G:
Please, ma’am
J: You need counselling You need help.
You’re trying to look after these 5
children
Nobody is helping you. One has been raped
10:14:57:15
JACKIE
FOUNDER, BOBBI BEAR
You’re wondering if they’re HIV
positive....
If they’re going to die
Are you not wondering these things?
10:15:03:22
G:
And my son is very sick, ma’am ‘cos he’s got AIDS too
He’s got trouble with his feet now
10:15:10:04
J:
You fought very hard for freedom and
for the rights of women
You fought - and when you fought for the rights of women
you fought for my rights too, even
though I’m white
And I want to thank you for that,
Mum,
I want to thank you for my rights
Because you fought for them, for me
Now it’s my time to pay you back
And I need you to think about what
we’re telling you
Because we can’t help like that
10:15:43:23
G:
ok
J:
We can try But we can take your
two children
for a week or two, until he’s
arrested
10:15:52:20
You need to share your problems, my
friend
You need to share with a counsellor
That I can tell you I can do, I can
get a counsellor for you
So that you can share
And you can talk about the loss of
your child
I thank God I don’t know what that
feels like
I don’t know
10:16:57:00
Mildred: That’s nice!
Sheini: I just spoke to the lawyer, I said:
“What the hell’s happened with the
sentencing?”
I asked what happened to the girl’s
mother
he said “She got 5 years”
Mildred: Yes! In prison? Thank you
Then my kids are free to walk
around. I’m happy
10:17:21:08
Eureka: I haven’t even left, Mildred
Mildred: I thought you’d gone
I thought : “How can she leave without saying goodbye?”
E:
I would never do that
M:
And I have good news
E:
What?
M:
Tobile’s mum got 5 years in prison
10:17:34:22
E: Tobile’s mum?
Little Tobile? You’re joking!
5 years
M:
Yes. Sheini called August and
he said she got 5 years
10:17:46:18
E:
For what? What was the
charge?
M:
Indecent assault
For pushing a pipe up the child’s
vagina
E:
So for indecent assault she got 5 years
M: I was screaming, I was so happy
The kids are going to be happy now
Now I can call the granny
10:18:07:14
E: That’s fantastic
Well I’m going on holidayin half an
hour.....
What’s wrong, Mildred? Eh?
Are you going to say goodbye to me
when I leave?
M:
I don’t want to talk about it now
E:
What’s wrong, Mildred?
10:18:56:11
Mildred: I remember my first day, Jackie said,
“Are you ok?”
10:19:01:22
And I said “No, I’m not ok”
And I started crying
Because it took me 8 to 10 years to
get counselling
For me, it wasn’t easy, I cried and
she calmed me down
Then we went to the car, we sat, we
spoke
For the first time, to find someone
to listen to you
To give love. She’s a mother, she’s my Mum
It’s only that when I told my mum
I told her that I was raped and she
did not believe me
10:20:10:21
It was painful for me that my
biological mother doesn’t believe me
But a stranger can believe me
She can listen to me
She wanted to know more about what
happened
But my mum did not
It took me a long time to realize
that maybe she did not understand
Or she did not know how to help me
If it wasn’t for her, I’d have gone
long ago
I was going to hang myself because..
10:20:50:20
while I was dealing with that, I was
doing the training
And I asked if I could go home, I
had a headache
When I went back home, I found my
husband sleeping with my sister
In my house, on my bed
Then if it wasn’t for her, the
course that I did
10:21:18:23
And realizing that there are
challenges outside
I was going to hang myself
But I didn’t do it
I just looked at them I said
“Oh fine,
Go ahead, do whatever you want
It took me a long time
Because I thought my husband would
change one day
And.. he never changed He never changed
10:21:49:04
I think ....I don’t know, he never changed
And I never thought that one day I
would start again
I thought “Oh, everything is ok
Though I was raped, I’ve got a
husband, I’ve got kids
I’ve got a house.” I didn’t realize that one day I would
Break up with him. Because I didn’t grow up with my parents
I didn’t want that to happen to my
children
10:22:28:23
Because when I was 8 I used to stay
in a family
And I’d never been a child
Wake up 2 o’clock No, 4 o’clock in the morning
Do breakfast for everybody
And I’m the last person to go to
school
My school was miles away
I used to run every day to school
Come back home 4 o’clock
I had to cook for the people
I’ve never been a child I never had a chance to be a child
And that’s why I ....
10:23:58:00
Thuli: Ok Martin, should I translate, or should I do what?
10:24:01:10
THULI
OPERATION BOBBI BEAR
Martin: Ok, Thuli, where is the suspect in this case?
T:
They phoned the police and he’s in there ... in the holding cells
M:
These other people, are they all witnesses?
You’re the eyewitness?
10:24:23:18
MARTIN
CHILD PROTECTION OFFICER
DURBAN POLICE
M:
This is the mother of the victim?
Vuysile: She’s my neighbour
T:
She’s accompanying her
10:24:32:19
V:
I’m the eyewitness
M:
I just want to sort out before I lose witnesses
V:
I‘m the eyewitness, that called the police
T:
She’s the one who called me, she knows all the story
10:24:45:12
Don’t worry about that man or these
ladies
I’m going to ask you some questions
and the
police officer will write it down
Do you understand?
Namsile: Yes
T:
My name’s Thuli
Call me Auntie Thuli
Now, tell me what happened to you
today
10:25:14:21
N:
He took me and laid me on the bed
T:
Wait, what did he do before that?
10:25:24:19
What did he do?
Then he undressed me, he took off
all my clothes
And then what did he do?
He kissed me....
And then?
When I tried to escape, then he held
me
And then?
Then I screamed
What did he do first, kiss you or
undress you?
He first kissed me.....
And then?
...then he undressed me all the
clothes
What next?
10:26:22:10
Namsile: Then he dressed me when he’d finished
T:
Listen, don’t worry about the people here
Tell me what he did
Don’t even worry about me,
just tell me exactly what he did
Tell me what you remember
Listen, you’re not in trouble
no-one’s going to punish you....
....You didn’t do anything wrong,
just
say what happened so the police can
write it down
10:27:08:12
If you don’t speak up,
he won’t be arrested
You’ve done nothing wrong, don’t
cry,
just tell Auntie, ok?
10:27:21:16
Did he say anything to frighten you?
N: He told me he’d kill me
T:
What did he say?
N:
He said he’ll kill me if I told anyone
T:
He said he would kill me if ever i tell anyone
10:27:47:06
Martin: Does Namsile go to school?
T: No
10:27:58:06
M:
Never gone to school?
T:
No, I have never been to school
10:28:02:15
Is that enough Martin?
Is that what you wanted?
10:28:13:04
Eureka: The day you all stop crying for these children
Pack your bags and go build jigsaw
puzzles
At the old age home.
Because then you’ve lost your heart
Never ever stop crying
Never stop crying for the children
that we work with
10:28:29:04
Sheini, don’t look at me like that!
If I phone one of you,
10:28:35:22
and your phones are on voice-mail
W: You’ll shove it up our bums!
E:
Where?
You will hear it ringing and we
won’t find it!
I will shove those phones
There’s no excuse. No excuse!
Sweetie, no excuse!
10:28:55:00
I used to be very quiet, hey
Mildred: You’ve never been quiet, Eureka!
Eureka: Mildred, when I came here
10 years ago, I used to sit....
...I’d say: “Yes Jackie, No Jackie”
10:29:07:22
You! And the first perpetrator we chased
through the streets with Thuli !
The one that escaped
He went into the sugar cane...
and I had to run after him, I
dropped
my cell phone. I said:
“Come here you fucking bastard!”
Thandeka: Who taught you that?
E:
You! Thandeka!
You people said to me: “It’s the
Zulu culture to use the F-word!”
I will never forget it!
When I came here,
10:29:45:23
I used to go to Sunday school every
week!
Every week!
Thuli: That means we taught you not to go to church,
is that what we taught you?
E: I’ve become a rough Auntie
since I’ve been at Bobbi Bear
Thuli: Eureka, it’s not because of us,
it’s because of the work we do
we, also, we are very good people,
...it’s the perpetrators!
they are pushing us!
10:10:25:24
E:
You taught me the Zulu language
You said: “The Zulu language is something like this!”
You...
10:30:19:00
Thuli: But, Eureka, when you get to this job...
....you see the perpetrator, you
just fume,
10:30:31:17
and you feel like strangling this
stupid thing
So that’s why, we didn’t teach you
- it just came...
E:
Oh, but Thuli, a couple of years ago
you didn’t even peep!
You used to walk in here and say
“Good morning”
Now, it’s got the biggest mouth at
Bobbi Bear!
10:30:55:07
I came to Bobbi Bear a real business
woman
you remember, Mildred,
with my high heels, I was a lady
Thandeka: An innocent lady!
Thuli: You were a lady and a half
E:
Yeah, what happened, Thuli?
Thuli: I don’t know what changed you, like you
don’t know what changed me
It’s through the work we’re doing
You become so angry that
you want to kill somebody!
10:32:00:19
Women: Hello. Welcome
10:32:03:05
Thuli: That is Nane. Sindi.
Vuysile: They’re cousins
10:32:13:05
Thuli: Nami’s cousins
10:32:17:05
Nane: Anyone else would have said:
“I didn’t see anything!”
But this lady came out and said:
“I saw it”
T:
Yes, if she hadn’t spoken up,
we’d still be in the dark
We’ll support you, don’t be scared,
as long as I’m around, we’ll fight
on
We’ll carry on even if we have
to take our shoes off to fight him!
We’ll bash him on the head with
them!
That’s what we’ll do
So, Nami....
why are you so quiet?
What’s up?
Nami: Nothing
Thuli: How are you feeling?
10:33:07:06
Nami: Alright
Thuli: I’ll sit next to you
What’s up?
Do you want to tell me anything?
Nami: No
T:
There’s nothing you want to say?
What did Grandfather say yesterday
about what happened?
10:33:26:08
Nami: Grandfather said that man was guilty
10:33:40:18
Men: Come on, Stop the car!
That’s the girl who was raped!
10:33:48:22
Vuysile: ... It was the old man
Thuli: The old man?
V:
Go on, tell Thuli!
Thuli: Has something else happened?
V:
The grandfather did it to her!
T:
You’re kidding!
Not the old man?
Has he done it before?
Nami, Nami, look at me!
Has the old man done something to
you?
10:34:17:04
Nami: He slept with me
T:
When?
N:
Yesterday
T:
During the day or night?
N:
Day
T:
Why did he do it?
10:34:28:11
N:
He didn’t say anything
T:
Did you tell Auntie?
N:
No
T:
What happened?
N: I told my brother, Mdazi
T:
What did your brother do?
N:
He came into the house and raped me
10:34:42:11
T:
Who did?
N:
Mdazi
He caught me while I was putting on
my pants
T:
Wait a minute
Was it Mdazi or the old man?
N: Mdazi
10:34:57:15
T:
So it wasn’t the old man?
N:
No
T:
Were you too frightened to tell Auntie?
N: Yes
T: Was it your brother or your grandfather?
N:
I don’t know
T:
There’s been another rape here.
She’s been raped again.
By a family member
Martin: When was this?
T:
Yesterday
10:35:25:02
Was it your brother or your
grandfather?
N:
The old man
T: Don’t cry
It was your grandfather?
N:
Yes
M:
What kind of abuse, Thuli?
10:35:44:19
T:
It’s the grandfather who raped her
The one that has gone away
M:
For fuck’s sake!
Did this happen yesterday?
T:
When did it happen
10:36:02:10
N:
Yesterday
T: Wait, Nami
Are you sure it was the old man?
N:
Yes
10:36:30:24
T:
What’s his name?
N:
I don’t know
10:36:38:10
M:
Has he done it before?
T:
Was it the first time?
N: The first time
M: Just yesterday
Girl: Her brother told me what happened
T:
With the old man?
Mdazi knows?
G:
He says he saw it
I can call him
10:37:06:08
T:
Will Mdazi talk to us?
G:
Shall I get him?
T:
Get him!
10:37:23:11
Mdazi, I’m Thuli
I work for Bobbi Bear
Can you help us?
Don’t be shy to talk to us
Are you related to this girl?
Mdazi: She’s my sister
T: Nami, who is this man
N:
My brother
T:
You’re brother and sister
Did you see anything
or did she tell you what happened?
10:37:54:15
Mdazi: I went to the clinic
to get the old man’s pills
When I came back,
Nami was putting on her pants
When I saw her I said “Oh!”
I backed off
T:
Where was she?
M:
In the bedroom
T:
Who else was in the house?
Mdazi: The old man, he lives with us
T:
What’s his name?
10:38:28:02
Mdazi: Mnai
T: Did you suspect anything?
Mdazi: I don’t know, I was just
coming back from the clinic
T:
You just found the old man there?
Mdazi: Yes, with my Sister
10:38:43:15
T:
How did she get there?
Mdazi: I don’t know
10:39:19:10
Thuli: Is there anything else you want to say?
Nami: No
T:
What do you want to happen to the old man?
What do you want done to him?
N:
I want him arrested
10:39:41:11
T:
Why?
N:
He was wrong
10:39:50:00
Thuli: She says he called her when he
was sitting on the sofa
Then...
10:40:00:07
Martin: ... then he called her back again and told
her to lie down on the sofa
He pulled off her clothes and pulled
off
10:40:07:16
my bra... and the other parts I’m
not going
to say ‘cos Andrew’s sitting
here. Ok?
10:40:17:20
How is she feeling, alright?
It’s terrible, man....
T:
Yes, it’s very terrible what’s
happened to her, Martin
Very, very terrible
And happening for the second time
10:40:45:14
Martin: I’m Inspector Booyens from
the Child Protection Unit
10:40:49:09
This is the letter to give
permission
to the Doctor for the examination
I just need your signature there....
10:41:05:22
Doctor: This child is tired, she’s
10:41:08:06
and she’s not co-operating at all
She’s more relaxed now
she’s having a meal
From there she’ll go for HIV
counselling
When my staff finish there
then she’ll come to me. Alright?
Thuli: Ok, Doctor, thank you very much
10:41:27:10
THULI
I don’t know what has got in to
peoples’ minds
Why are they doing this?
10:41:35:01
Dr: I’m getting blue in the face now with
this rape, rape, rape, rape
I want to hide under the counter now
Can I run away somewhere?
I don’t know where
T:
No, Doctor, you cannot
Dr: I’m really frustrated
T:
We need you, Dr Mahomed
Dr: There is so much chaos and confusion everywhere
10:42:12:16
Thuli: People in our communities
They don’t talk about this because
it’s seen as a family matter,
something that should not be
discussed
10:42:22:16
because it involves the private
parts
of a human being
A little child in our nation, our Zulu nation,
...a little child can’t say the
private parts openly
to an adult person
So the child has got to try and go
round the word
to give an outline of what she wants
to say
10:42:47:00
The elderly people always say:
“You brought this on yourself,
you wanted to be raped”
So then others say “ I’ve been raped,
so what? Let me live with it”
But then, it’s not a matter of
living with it
You need some help
10:43:06:12
My son, Lindane,
10:43:08:19
I love him to death
Though sometimes you find it very
difficult
to raise a boy without a father
It’s very difficult
But, my son, he’s my friend
We talk a lot and if he ever has a
problem
he comes to me and says “Mum, I’ve
got a problem” I say:
“Ok, let’s sit down
and talk about it.” He’s like my friend
I’ve said to him: “There’s no friend like your Mum
You come to your Mum with your
problem,
your Mum will try and help you
Though I don’t understand men,
but I’ll try and advise you
10:43:53:15
Because I’ve had some lessons about
men,
so I’ll just give you some advice”
But at one stage, when he was
shot...
I thought: “ Now to have only one child!”
I did not like it. I thought I had lost him
I thought he was going to die
He had a major, major operation
10:42:18:00
He was shot as he was coming from
his temporary job
He survived
I’m very proud of him
I’m a very proud mother
I love him and he respects me a lot
Because I always tell him
“I’m your Mum, I’m your Dad”
10:44:47:08
Jackie: No, stop, where are the babies?
10:44:56:00
Ok, ‘cos we’ve got the whole team on
stand-by
10:45:01:01
You’re at the centre
Who else is there with you?
It’s only you?
10:45:09:22
Ok, let’s rock and roll!
10:45:13:16
Have you got scissors?
Eureka’s in quite a state
10:45:20:07
It’s part of her family
10:45:23:19
This morning at 4 o’clock
robbers shot the father, the father
was
taken to the private hospital,
he had no money so the private
hospital
have sent him to the hospital you’ve
been to,
that you wouldn’t want anybody to go
to
He won’t make it in that hospital
so we’ve got two objectives:
clean up the house, sort the kids out
and find 20,000 rand to get him back
into the private hospital
And then get the newspapers to shame
the private hospital
10:45:59:00
Where?
Bobbi Bear!
Is this where the robbery was?
10:46:24:01
Oh, shame
Oh, my goodness
Ok, Ballistics has been here
Just see we don’t tamper with
anything
Oh, shame, shame
Oh the poor kids
10:47:05:00
The guy had good blood-clotting
qualities
It ought to save him a bit
10:47:39:05
Daughter: Kingsway hospital want
50,000 rand deposit
We don’t have 50,00 rand deposit
so we’re going to try to transfer
him to Mc Courts
Jackie: How much is Mc Courts?
10:47:53:13
D:
3,000 ....
J: Ok I’ve got 3,000 in my bank account
D:
No, my sister’s took out a 20,000 rand loan
to put him in Kingsway but it’s
going to cost her
150,000 rand for Kingsway so she
said
I must get bank details now to
transfer all the money....
J:
But I’ve got cash if you need cash
10:48:20:14
Jackie: Is he ok? tell me about
him
Girl: He’s on drips, he’s white-ish
he’s in the other hospital, it’s
very dirty
My Auntie’s going to try to
transfer him to Kingsway
J:
We’re going to try and do that
Alright?
Are you scared?
G:
Yes, because they got the house keys
10:48:50:24
J:
Well we’ve got the guys here, changing everything
How’s that?
What’ll happen is we’ll get the
house keys
and everything changed changed, ok?
Do you want a cup of tea or
something?
G: No, thank you
J:
Are you sure?
10:49:09:13
I’ve got a beautiful lady called
Hanneker,
she’s psychologist, and I’d like you
to
talk to her, what d’you think?
How’s your mum?
G:
Mum’s fine, she’s with my Daddy
and my sister’s with my Daddy as well
10:49:35:07
J:
Ok. We’re just cleaning
everything up, ok?
Do you mind?
G: No
J: We’re going to clean everything up
and we’re going to do your laundry
for you
How’s that! So you don’t have to do it!
Shame, my baby, you’re being so
brave
You’re so brave
I’m very proud of you
10:49:58:00
G:
Thank you
My sister opened her eyes
this time when they broke in
I was sleeping and then I heard
shots
and my Daddy was shot
My Daddy was going outside
My Daddy wanted to come in there by
the passage
And they come and they shooted my
Daddy
and he took his gun and he shoot one
of them here
10:50:28:08
Then they pinned him down and they
shooted him here and in the hand, my
father.
And there was lots of blood on the
floor
And then one of them went over my
Daddy
and my Mummy tried to strangle them
but
he pushed her away and he tried to
shoot
Mummy but there was no bullets left
in it
10:50:57:01
J: God is good, hey
And your mum fought him
G: Excuse me?
J:
Your mum fought him!
G:
Yes
10:51:30:02
Eureka: The first time I heard who it was,
and that it was family
was when Michelle phoned and said:
“Mum, Dick’s been shot”
10:51:38:22
Now 4 o’clock til 10 past 9 last
night,
when he died, it’s a long time
And all he kept telling his kids was
“I love you, I love you”
And then I speak to his daughter,
Alzette,
and she says: “Aunty Eureka, I don’t want
my Dad to die” What do I say to the kid?
What do I say to her?
And he suffered, he really suffered
He was in pain for the entire day
He didn’t deserve it
He just didn’t deserve to die like
that
Thuli: This is what they do at Kingsway
With my son they did that too
10:52:30:23
They said to me I should pay 10,000
rand,
on the table, before they even start
operating
So I said: “ I don’t have that much”
So he ended up coming out to Prince
Myshieni
I had to pay 4,000 rand cash
10:52:47:05
E:
Those two kids are devastated
His kids are devastated
That their Dad suffered the whole of
yesterday
He actually suffered, Jackie
I was on the phone every half an
hour to
the hospital. He was dying
and he was dying a cruel death
And it’s not fair. It’s just not fair
He just didn’t deserve to die the
way he did
That’s what hurts me.....
he just didn’t deserve it
And all because they couldn’t
put money up front
They didn’t have the money,
they just didn’t have 150, 000 rand
If you don’t have the money, you
just die
10:53:39:08
Thanks, Jackie
J:
Please don’t thank us, we’re your family
E:
If it wasn’t for you guys yesterday, Jackie
I couldn’t go into that house and
clean up that mess
I couldn’t do it
I’ll help a raped child,
I’ll cuddle a child that’s been
raped or abused
but I would not have been able
to walk into that house yesterday
I’m telling you now, I couldn’t do
it
10:54:34:00
Sdudla: We’ve come to see you
Woman: Why?
S:
About the baby
10:54:41:02
W:
All I wanted was the mother to take
the baby away...
I didn’t want to be involved in
dumping the child
S:
No way is that baby being dumped!
When she opened her thighs,
she should have thought of the
consequences!
10:54:56:06
W:
Over here, hurry up!
10:55:04:16
S:
This lady lives around here
so if things like this happen
she tells Bobbi Bear
Man: You’re doing a great job!
W:
It would have been terrible if the baby had died
10:55:19:22
M:
Why did you dump the child?
Girl: I never said the child
was a nuisance
We just put the baby
under the tree
I just left it lying on the grass
M:
Wait a minute!
It’s against the law
You abandoned the baby
Why leave it in the bush
when it’s got a home?
10:55:47:21
Sdudla: Whatever you say,
it’s your baby
10:55:52:19
He didn’t choose to come
into this world
10:55:55:06
SDUDLA
OPERATION BOBBI BEAR
This child is more important
to you than anyone
He’s here because of you
10:56:03:13
If he dies,
you’ll suffer most
A mother should always
look after her child
It’s a woman’s duty
not a man’s
10:56:15:18
Men are hopeless,
they’re like babies themselves
10:56:19:24
I’m not fighting,
I’m pleading with you
If you have problems with the
baby...
Call me: “Sdudla,
I need help with the baby”
If I hear you’ve dumped it,
you’ll be arrested
I’ll make sure you’re nailed!
10:56:59:19
Mildred: Come and sit next to Auntie
Why are you crying?
My name is Aunty Sbo,
what’s yours?
Nonhlanhla: Nonhlanhla
M:
We’ll talk later
I’ll talk to your uncle first
10:57:23:22
Mildred: How old is Nonhlanhla?
Uncle: This one?
M:
Roughly?
U:
12 years old
Nonhlanhla’s 12 years old
M:
She seems a troubled kid
U:
Nonhlanhla is so clever,
she could put you in prison
She’s got criminal action in her
mind
M:
Let’s work out why
10:57:52:00
she keeps running away
U:
Try to find out because
I don’t understand why
I provide everything for her
Food, shelter, everything
to make her happy
She eats whatever she wants
I buy six yoghurts for myself....
She eats them all, then puts them
back empty as if they haven’t been
touched
10:58:24:18
Can I sit in when you talk to her?
M:
No, I need to talk to her alone
She won’t feel free
if you’re there
10:58:38:10
Mildred: Do you trust me enough to talk to me?
Tell me your problems?
Tell Auntie Sbo!
Nonhlanhla: I was at my friend’s house...
...and I was watching TV
....it was at Toby’s house
and we were watching TV
Then Toby said:
“Hide, your uncle’s coming!”
So I hid from him
But my uncle found me
and started hitting me
He hit me with a big club
10:59:27:00
M:
Why do you run away from home?
N:
Because my uncle’s always beating me
M:
So this isn’t the first time?
N: No
M:
Are you telling me everything?
Why do you do it?
10:59:44:23
N:
I’m scared he’s going to beat me
10:59:53:11
Mildred: Look after yourself, OK?
You’ll go with your uncle to Social
Services..
...and they’ll find a new home for
you
and I’ll come and see you
Be good, OK?
Be good
11:00:55:14
Thuli: Where did you cross the river?
Boy: Over there
T:
Where it’s shallow?
B:
It’s not usually deep there
T:
You could drown if you cross there again
B:
Yes
T:
Better go round by bus in future...
.. or what’s just happened will
haunt you
11:01:22:17
SDUDLA’S SON HAS DROWNED CROSSING THE RIVER
11:01:38:17
A MINING COMPANY HAS BEEN DIGGING SAND ILLEGALLY
MAKING DEEP PITS IN THE RIVERBED
11:01:48:24
Sdudla: Oh my Shubaba, why did you leave me?
You’ve left me, my child
You’ve left me, my only child
I accept, my Lord
Let your will be done
I accept
Oh, Sister Thuli, why Shubaba,
why not me?
I wanted to see him grow up to be a
man
Nothing’s turned out the way I’d
hoped
Nothing’s worked out the way I
wanted
11:03:19:15
What did I do to deserve this?
You should punish me in a different
way
You should have punished me in
a different way, not take my son
You’ve taken away all my hope
11:04:25:19
Oh my Shubaba, what happened?
Oh, my Lord, why did you betray me
with my only child?
All my hope is gone,
he won’t grow up to be a man
Oh, Shubaba!
11:05:05:04
Mother: Where’s my daughter?
Police Woman: Sdudla’s over there,
do you want to go to her?
Jackie: I’ll stay with him
11:05:34:00
It looks like he’s been sleeping
Eureka: I want to see his face, I do
Just too much death this week,
Jackie
11:07:10:05
Sheini: I don’t know what to say at the moment
I just feel for all of you
11:07:16:00
And we love you all
and the Bobbi Bear team are all
behind you
Sdudla, your loss is our loss,
I just feel so much for you
I’m so sorry
11:07:35:15
Martin: Sorry for the loss
11:08:44:14
Mother: I’ll never forget him
How will we live just the two of us?
We were three and now we’re two
11:12:25:00
Jackie: Shubaba was a very special child
Very special child
Because he has a special mother
Sdudla is my child
I only want to speak to Sdudla
Shubaba is like a ship now
We are standing here crying, saying
goodbye
But on the other side
people are standing, clapping,
saying:
“Come, come, we will meet you
we’re waiting for you!”
Sdudla, you are an amazing young
woman
who had an amazing child
11:13:35:22
Sdudla, we love you
and thank you for letting us
be a part of his life
11:15:17:09
Jackie: What was the battle you’ve won?
What is the battle you’ve won?
Sdudla: To accept what
happened, that’s it
Eureka: Have you accepted it?
S:
Yes, I have to
E:
So you’ll be back at work Monday?
No playing, eh?
S: Yes, I will
E:
You want to come back?
11:15:41:00
S:
Yes, I am
E:
But if you can’t come back..
I’m only fooling with you, Sdudla
S:
No, I want to come back on Monday
I told my family already: “On Monday, I want
to go back to work”
11:16:01:02
J:
I’m very proud of you, Sdudla
S:
I want to talk to Hanna, she went to
court for the victim’s visit
J:
Yes, she did, come
E:
She’s back!
She’s back!
11:16:37:10
Jackie: I want to talk about the river
11:16:40:21
People tell me there are 6 other
children have died
And we tree women are sitting!
These are our children! Our children!
While this man makes money
with our children’s blood!
11:17:17:00
Is there clean water there?
11:17:20:22
Are there bridges for you to cross
the river?
Where’s your nearest clinic?
11:17:36:20
I am talking to women! Women!
Who fought for freedom for this
country
Women! who killed apartheid!
Where are these women to fight
for the children of for their
community
Where are the women?
11:18:14:08
Are we going to sit and wait
for the men to do it?
11:18:32:23
Eureka: Are you happy now you’ve got
your Sdudla, Chloe?
‘Cos I said to Michelle this morning
I said: “Maybe Sdudla doesn’t want to have
children around her”
Sdudla: oh no, no
This doesn’t change anything
E:
Eh?
11:18:48:20
S:
It’s the way I have to admit that
Shubaba is gone
That he won’t be back
E:
But it’s not worrying you that she’s with you now?
S:
No
E:
Because she cried yesterday
She said: “I want my Sdudla!”
She really missed you, Sdudla
11:19:11:22
And I wasn’t sure
I didn’t know if you’d be alright
with her
What you doing?
S:
Come, Chloe, it’s your turn
11:19:33:15
Jackie: When we were talking,
you know at the break-in when
11:19:36:15
that man got killed...
...and I heard you talking ...
I didn’t realise how much you’d been
through
when your son was shot
And we just didn’t have the money
at that time to help you out
And I must admit I had a couple
of sleepless nights over it,
I really did
And I wanted to know if you realised
that we didn’t have the money at
that time
Thuli: I did realise that, Jackie
Jackie: You know, amongst the white people
11:20:04:12
we talk all the time about our
problems
And I know the Zulu culture is
to talk about it once, then
finished,
get on with your life
Which, I’m not saying is bad, Thuli,
it has its good points
But you and I have been together
for a long time
And we’ve fought this culture of
silence
T: I think I’ve learnt more with you and
your culture because, if we say we
are
not going to talk about a thing,
11:20:36:17
it’s killing us inside
11:20:39:09
J:
There’s Thuli, her son is shot
she hasn’t got a vehicle,
she has to catch about 20 taxis
to get to her son
Then fight the hospital for her own
child
like she fights the hospitals for
the Bobbi Bear children
All with the trauma of knowing he
could die
and: “where are we going to get the money?”
Please forgive me, Thuli
Say it
11:21:07:07
I want you to forgive me, Thuli
I really do
I had sleepless nights over it
‘Cos it must be terrible, seeing
everything that was done for Sdudla,
and we did nothing for your son
T:
Oh no, no, Jackie
No, no
You don’t have to say that
11:21:27:20
Because Jackie when I went there
I went with the strength of Bobbi
Bear
Inside me
I went with that strength
Because when they couldn’t change
the sheets
in the hospital
My son, they couldn’t bath him,
I said to myself : “I’m working for children,
this is my child. Why should I keep quiet?
I must speak”
11:21:50:05
So that is why I said
“Take off your sheets, I don’t need
them.
11:21:53:12
Please take them away!”
Then I brought my sheets and
I put them on the bed and I cleaned
him
I had to do it
11:22:01:01
J:
I just want you to know that
I have an idea of what you were
going through
Yet you always came to work
You always did your best for the
children
All the problems that we were going
through
at the time ...I never had the chance to sit down
and tell you how much I respect you,
I admire you, and you inspire me
I never had the chance to do that
11:22:37:18
And I need you to know it
I really do
And on behalf of all the children
I have to thank you, Thuli,
Because you never let go
T: I would never
11:23:19:02
Jackie: So your name is Nonhlanhla?
So you’re lucky!
Mildred: Last night, at about half past nine,
11:23:27:03
two ladies came to my house
“There’s a child here looking for
you!”
“How old is the child?”
“We think she’s 10 or 9”
“Where is she”
“She’s
with us, the family is calling you
to come and see her
because she’s looking for you”
I went to the neighbours
When I got there, I knew her
11:23:49:04
Two weeks ago
I was with her at the Police Station
I said: “Why do you run away from home?”
Because her uncle works at Toyota
“You don’t starve, why run away?”
She said: “I don’t want to stay with the uncle
11:24:05:00
He’s horrible, he beats me
I can’t stay with him”
Guess what the Social Workers did?
11:24:11:15
They said to the child:
“You must go with your uncle
Off you go” Gave them a lift
Back home
11:24:30:08
Jackie: Very deep scarring
My goodness, my girl!
Give me your foot
Nonhlanhla: He did that with a knife
J:
A knife!
11:24:59:00
OK, we’ve run out of tissues
This is hair cream
Why are you crying, my baby?
Hey? It’ll be alright
She’s got a fever as well
11:25:18:00
Jackie: Sweetie, you’re staying with me tonight
In here, with the children
OK?
11:25:32:00
Auntie Mildred and I will take you
to Welfare tomorrow
But we won’t leave you there
11:25:43:22
You’re safe!
You’re staying with Ellina and
children
while Auntie Mildred and I talk a
bit
and do some work
11:26:03:23
Jackie: That scarring on her legs
is very bad, Mildred
A lot of them needed stitching and
never got it
So she’s been through some terrible abuse
Right, so how’s your life?
11:26:23:00
The last talk we had was in the
corridor
You told me about your husband
and you were wanting to leave...
11:26:35:18
Mildred: I don’t want to stay in that house any more
It’s enough
15 years ...
J:
I think you’ve tried hard enough
11:26:44:22
M:
I have to now, I’ve made up my
mind
11:26:48:16
He was not beating me
but emotionally, he was hurting me
too much
That’s why I’ve decided to pack my
bags
It’s enough now, too much for me
11:27:03:02
J:
Right, I believe there’s a man
interested in you!
M:
Yes
J:
Well, he’s got good taste!
M:
If my Mum says so, then it’s OK!
J:
I’ve met this man
But I wanted to know how you felt
about him
11:27:24:16
You’ve worked for this independence
Yourself
And you’ve taken this independence
So we don’t want to lose it
with another relationship
This man, I think he’s very proud of
you
and he would let you be yourself
However, he is an African male
and it doesn’t matter what colour
they are
Or what language they speak
They always like women
barefoot, pregnant, at the kitchen
sink!
We know this
11:27:59:03
M: He said: “I want you to
be independent
First of all, I don’t want children
with you
You’ve got enough children of your
own
I’ve got mine
I want you to be happy
I’m not going to tell you what to do
You told me you’re not happy where
you live
but I can’t take decisions for you
You go and talk to your Mum”
That’s why I wanted to talk to you
but you didn’t have time
J:
We all know
11:28:32:06
that things are so hard
Any other young woman would have
moved in with him, just to make
things easier. But you haven’t
And you’ve got to be so proud of
yourself, Mildred, for that
I’m proud of you
You’re a role model now
You really are
Any other girl would have just
moved in with him like that
M:
I know I’ve got a Mum like you!
You’d kick my bum!
11:29:06:15
J:
I’ll kick your arse from here
to Cairo, man!
11:29:44:19
Eureka: Sheini, phone my family
and ask them to come fetch the food
out of my car, it’s going to be a
long night
11:29:55:00
Jackie: He just got dumped?
E:
The father was drunk, Jackie
He came past here with this pram
Up and down
The father was falling all over the
place
The guy upstairs will give you
the whole story
11:30:15:09
The father is either drunk or high
on something
He abandoned him here and ran up the
street
11:30:22:23
Allan: You don’t know where he is?
ALLAN
JACKIE’S HUSBAND
E:
No he’s just left him
Left him here in front of the
restaurant
The people upstairs saw it
11:30:33:07
There’s a pot of porridge
11:30:43:04
I’ve got his trust now....
J:
Where’s he going
your house or my house?
E:
Your house
11:31:06:07
Byron: Nice Nice
Jackie: I wonder why he can’t stand women?
11:31:16:22
BYRON
JACKIE’S SON
B:
I don’t know, you tell me
No worries
No, no, come, sit down
Yes, nice
11:31:33:09
Jackie: Have you been to the doctor?
Where’s your truck?
11:31:55:01
Hello, yes
11:32:00:20
Sindi, I’ve got a baby!
Sindi!
11:32:13:10
Look what I’ve got for you
This is my daughter, Sindi
Police Woman: Hello Sindi
11:32:35:08
J:
And this is Fred
And... shame, we don’t know his name
yet
PW: It’s a boy
11:32:44:00
J:
Yes, we thought he was Renea,
but that’s not right
11:33:03:16
Right! What happened?
Fred: Physically he’s alright
11:33:07:04
but he’s been sodomized and probably
frequently because there’s still a
wound
It was recent
So they want him on PEP
because he tested HIV negative
J:
Ah, beautiful!
11:33:40:05
How are you feeling?
F:
Well, I’m fine
It’s just sad
J:
You don’t want to go looking
for his father?
F:
I don’t think anyone wants to know
what we would do to the father!
J:
Don’t you worry,
Uncle Allan’s coming now!
11:34:03:21
Allan: Where’d you get that one from?
Not another one!
You want some juice?
Boy: Coke
A:
Have we got Coke?
J:
No, not for him
A:
What then?
J:
Some water and some juice
11:34:25:17
A:
You want Coke?
J:
She’s not very well, hey
A:
What happened now?
J:
She got abandoned in a toilet
A:
There you go
“Thank you”
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B:
Thank you
Jackie: The surgeon says
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his anal passage is very enlarged
The recent tearing is Friday,
Saturday’s.
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Whenever he was sodomized,
the male would reward him
The Police and the Welfare,
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when he was abandoned at the police
station,
gave him back to the father
Allan: But where did they find him?
J:
He’s a hobo He doesn’t stay
in one place at one time
A: Just pathetic
J:
Shame, little boy, hey
Little boy! Shame!
11:35:36:10
Man: Good morning everybody!
Woman: Good morning
11:35:39:16
See you this afternoon
Woman: Give her a kiss
Bye, see you this afternoon
11:35:52:14
W:
Bye
Jackie: I think she’s such a beautiful
and a lovely girl
11:36:09:21
I can’t keep her, but I want to
So much
She’s been so good
I’m so proud of her
Tell her she must listen to me
11:36:42:11
I’m very sad
I want to keep you and I can’t
Not now
11:36:57:05
I’m asking you to be brave
I’m asking you to trust us
That we won’t forget you
We’re looking for wonderful parents
for you.
11:37:20:22
We’re not leaving you
We will be there
11:37:50:00
You’re very precious
You’re very special
We won’t leave you, I promise
Very professional!
11:38:25:02
Oh man!
Mildred: It’s not easy
J:
Alan won’t let me adopt another one
He just won’t!
11:38:38:05
Jackie: I tell you what,
your Dad’s so used to me asking
and he’s gonna say “no” and all his
reasons will be valid...
11:38:53:12
Sindy: Even if it’s just for a year,
I don’t care. Or just for a month
J:
Why this little girl after all the others
we’ve had in the house?
S: She’s never ever, ever, ever
felt a love
J:
Is that why?
S:
Some of the children have had
at least one experience of love...
....or kindness
But she hasn’t at all
J:
Nothing
11:39:26:14
Allan: What are you doing in my chair?
S:
Keeping it warm!
J:
How was your game?
A:
Good, but I didn’t win
Jackie: But did you have a good time?
(mouths silently) Coffee!
11:39:43:00
A:
Don’t make it too strong, my love
11:39:50:00
What’s happening?
11:39:51:05
S:
Dad! I feel
11:39:53:22
like a lonely child
Can we keep Nonhlanhla?
A:
I’m getting far too old to make
decisions like this....
I can’t make the decision
Your decision
11:40:14:22
J:
She was here a week and
she was beautiful, man
A:
You know her
11:40:20:11
better than I do...
J:
I know she’s a sweetie,
you would just love
A:
From what I saw of her, yes,
She was definitely a sweetie
But there wasn’t any interaction
between
her and me. I don’t know how
she would take to me
J:
Shall we go visit her?
A:
It would be worthwhile to visit her, yes...
J:
I just love you
A:
It’s a big decision, hey!
It’s not just something you can...
J:
I know....
A:
Will you let me play golf every day?
And go fishing every day?
J:
I will, I will
A:
And you don’t mind if I don’t work!
11:41:23:20
MILDRED IS FINALLY LEAVING HOME
HER BOYFRIEND, PHILLIP, IS HELPING
HER MOVE
11:41:33:12
Mildred: This is killing me!
Phillip: You’re as strong as any man!
11:42:07:03
Jackie: A good day today, is it!
Mildred: I’m so happy!
11:42:14:21
J:
It’ll be lovely and it’s yours!
You can do what you like to this
house!
11:42:34:05
Phillip: You can plant here...
... and right down there
11:42:59:06
THIS FILM IS DEDICATED TO
Mdumiso “Shababa[JB1]” Maphumulo
and Dick Van Den Berg
11:43:07:13
END CREDITS
[JB1]I think it may be SHUBABA with a U not an A. but we need to confirm with Kim / Ezra. Also need his real first name and the “Shubaba” (middle/nick name) in quote marks I believe. But check with Kim.