METINIDES 00:05:07:20 00:05:12:12 I built a huge collection of photos, just of car crashes.
METINIDES 00:05:39:09 00:05:41:22 This is my first camera.
METINIDES 00:05:41:23 00:05:46:16 I was 9 years old, almost 10.
METINIDES 00:05:47:03 00:05:51:11 My father used to sell these cameras.When he changed his business,
METINIDES 00:05:51:12 00:05:53:18 he gave me this camera.
METINIDES 00:05:54:01 00:05:55:21 This is a photo of my father.
METINIDES 00:05:56:04 00:05:59:15 He was born in Greece, so was my mother.
METINIDES 00:05:59:16 00:06:04:19 They got married and came to Mexico on their honeymoon.
METINIDES 00:06:05:03 00:06:08:04 They arrived in Veracruz, but war had broken out in Greece.
METINIDES 00:06:08:14 00:06:13:03 They couldn't return because of the war.
METINIDES 00:06:13:06 00:06:19:06 His store in Avenida Juarez sold
cameras and photo equipment.
METINIDES 00:06:19:14 00:06:25:23 This photo of me, was taken there.
METINIDES 00:06:27:02 00:06:30:01 This camera was made in Germany.
METINIDES 00:06:30:02 00:06:33:07 It's called a Brownie Junior.
METINIDES 00:06:33:16 00:06:36:12 It had a big roll of film. With large negatives.
METINIDES 00:06:36:13 00:06:38:22 Just 12 photos.
METINIDES 00:06:39:04 00:06:42:07 To take a photo you had to do this...
METINIDES 00:06:42:11 00:06:45:01 Take the photo and turn this.
METINIDES 00:06:45:02 00:06:48:09 If you took a photograph at night, like this… It wouldn't
come out.
METINIDES 00:06:48:11 00:06:51:02 But if you did it like this...
METINIDES 00:06:52:00 00:06:54:03 taking the image over and over again.
METINIDES 00:06:54:03 00:06:57:04 Then after doing it a hundred times...
METINIDES 00:06:58:13 00:07:02:03 When I developed the film, it came out really well.
METINIDES 00:07:02:08 00:07:06:11 My sister and her husband had a cinema, The Roxy.
METINIDES 00:07:08:06 00:07:14:13 I could go for free. I'd get some candy and watch a movie.
METINIDES 00:07:17:03 00:07:20:22 I saw a lot of movies. I really liked the action ones.
METINIDES 00:07:23:00 00:07:27:09 I took my camera to the cinemaand
would photograph the screen.
B ROLL MOVIE 00:07:27:23 00:07:30:15 When I saw a car crash,
B ROLL MOVIE 00:07:41:05 00:07:43:16 Hey boss, look at that car crash!
B ROLL MOVIE 00:07:43:18 00:07:45:08 How terrible!
METINIDES 00:08:15:22 00:08:21:07 That's where I got the idea to be a photographer of
accidents.
METINIDES 00:08:23:10 00:08:27:23 When I was a boy, I'd buy the papers,and when I saw there'd been a crash
METINIDES 00:08:27:23 00:08:30:13 in some part of the city, I'd take the bus...
METINIDES 00:08:30:22 00:08:35:15 And when ever there was a car
accident, I would take photographs.
METINIDES 00:08:35:23 00:08:40:16 I was very aware of these accidents, even though I was only
in primary school.
METINIDES 00:08:40:19 00:08:42:17 I was in school. I was just a child.
METINIDES 00:08:42:17 00:08:47:07 Instead of playing ball games I played with my camera.
METINIDES 00:08:47:14 00:08:55:06 Near my father's restaurant was the Seventh (Police)
Precinct.
METINIDES 00:08:55:07 00:08:58:03 The judge would eat at his place.
METINIDES 00:08:59:01 00:09:03:12 When he was there I would show him my photos.
METINIDES 00:09:03:18 00:09:09:08 Because the judge knew my parents...
METINIDES 00:09:10:05 00:09:14:08 I got permission to go to the precinct and take pictures.
METINIDES 00:09:14:08 00:09:16:07 So I could make my collection larger.
METINIDES 00:09:16:08 00:09:21:02 Every morning before school I went to the precinct with my
camera.
METINIDES 00:09:21:16 00:09:25:01 And they let me photograph in the cells and the car wrecks.
METINIDES 00:09:25:09 00:09:30:22 They'd make jokes that I was a real reporter.
METINIDES 00:09:30:22 00:09:34:15 They'd pose with a murderer and I would take their pictures!
METINIDES 00:09:42:05 00:09:45:03 One day someone was murdered.
METINIDES 00:09:45:04 00:09:51:05 Two guys beat him up. They pushed his neck down onto the
rail tracks.
METINIDES 00:09:51:05 00:09:55:10 A train went by and it beheaded him.
METINIDES 00:09:55:16 00:10:00:07 When I went to the precinct, to say good morning to the
judge,
METINIDES 00:10:00:08 00:10:03:20 ...he told me to go and photograph a corpse that had just arrived.
METINIDES 00:10:03:21 00:10:09:10 When I entered, the warden of the morgue...
METINIDES 00:10:09:12 00:10:17:09 ...grabbed the head by the hair and held it up!
METINIDES 00:10:24:16 00:10:28:06 It was my first photo of a corpse.
METINIDES 00:10:31:00 00:10:38:16 I was about 9 years old, maybe less.
METINIDES 00:10:40:03 00:10:47:04 I was scared seeing dead people,not in the movies, but in real life!
METINIDES 00:11:24:03 00:11:27:10 There was an accident that took place in San Cosme...
METINIDES 00:11:28:05 00:11:34:15 That's where it all began!La
Prensa's photographer, Antonio Velazquez,
METINIDES 00:11:34:17 00:11:39:23 saw me taking pictures of the crash. He was taking pictures
for his newspaper.
METINIDES 00:11:40:00 00:11:43:08 He asked me, why was I taking pictures?
METINIDES 00:11:43:09 00:11:46:08 I told him they were for my collection.
METINIDES 00:11:47:01 00:11:50:19 He became interested, and arranged to meet with me.
METINIDES 00:11:51:09 00:11:56:04 I brought my photos and he liked them.He asked me to work with him.
METINIDES 00:11:57:05 00:12:00:22 Ask your parents for permission, which I never did,
"and come with me."
METINIDES 00:12:01:19 00:12:07:13 I took my camera and we began working together on police
journalism.
METINIDES 00:12:07:13 00:12:15:06 At 9 years old I hopped on a fire truck, with the firemen,
on top of the hoses...
METINIDES 00:12:15:13 00:12:18:05 And we rushed to the fire.
METINIDES 00:12:26:03 00:12:31:20 Because, I was just a kid, a fireman was ordered to carry me
on his shoulders,
METINIDES 00:12:32:01 00:12:34:19 and watch out for me, while I took photographs.
METINIDES 00:12:34:19 00:12:40:22 My face would glow from the heat, because I got so close to
the flames.
METINIDES 00:12:43:20 00:12:46:14 After developing them, my photos would often end up on the
front page,
METINIDES 00:12:46:15 00:12:49:09 not the official photographer's. Because I got so close to
the fire!
METINIDES 00:12:51:15 00:12:57:11 They would use my name in the credits, although I was just a
child.
METINIDES 00:13:00:05 00:13:04:23 I took the newspaper to school and I showed it to my
classmates,
METINIDES 00:13:05:02 00:13:06:15 and to my teacher.
METINIDES 00:13:12:02 00:13:16:21 Then the teacher took my hand to show it to the school's
director.
METINIDES 00:13:16:22 00:13:23:01 And he would brag about having a primary school student who
was a reporter.
METINIDES 00:13:23:01 00:13:24:23 'Rivers of blood in the streets of the city.'
METINIDES 00:13:43:02 00:13:47:06 I became used to the corpses because of the movies, I saw so
many.
METINIDES 00:13:47:07 00:13:51:12 As a child I saw 30 to 40 corpses daily.
ALEJANDRO GONZALEZ 00:14:10:01 00:14:14:09 It seems we've got four Z1's.
ALEJANDRO GONZALEZ 00:14:15:11 00:14:17:05 Apparently 4 people have been shot.
ALEJANDRO GONZALEZ 00:14:17:11 00:14:19:05 [ mumbles on the radio]
ALEJANDRO GONZALEZ 00:14:23:21 00:14:26:13 - Left?|- Yes.
ALEJANDRO GONZALEZ 00:14:31:14 00:14:35:23 We got 5 bravo in Azcapotzalco.
ALEJANDRO GONZALEZ 00:14:37:01 00:14:40:21 Where from here?
ALEJANDRO GONZALEZ 00:14:49:09 00:14:51:08 Red come in.
ALEJANDRO GONZALEZ 00:14:51:16 00:14:57:08 We have some Z1's in Azcapotzalco.
ALEJANDRO GONZALEZ 00:14:58:00 00:15:03:08 We are close to the scene Eagle,|There is double Z1 at the scene. One has a
gun.
ALEJANDRO GONZALEZ 00:15:03:08 00:15:06:04 And 3 more by X-13's picked up.
NEWSPAPAPER SELLER 00:16:29:17 00:16:32:06 Buy El Metro!
NEWSPAPAPER SELLER 00:16:34:20 00:16:37:09 Buy El Metro!
NEWSPAPAPER SELLER 00:16:40:11 00:16:43:00 What's up? How are you?
NEWSPAPAPER SELLER 00:16:43:13 00:16:45:06 Do you want one?
NEWSPAPAPER SELLER 00:16:47:00 00:16:49:05 Have a nice day!
NEWSPAPAPER SELLER 00:16:49:06 00:16:51:19 Buy El Metro!
SHOE SHINE FELIX BARRIOS 00:16:51:23 00:16:53:19 Dead Thief!
SHOE SHINE FELIX BARRIOS 00:16:56:03 00:16:58:23 I had a client...
SHOE SHINE FELIX BARRIOS 00:16:59:00 00:17:04:00 An important man
SHOE SHINE FELIX BARRIOS 00:17:05:00 00:17:09:07 He always asked me,|Do
you have La Prensa?
SHOE SHINE FELIX BARRIOS 00:17:09:08 00:17:10:18 Yes! I told him.
SHOE SHINE FELIX BARRIOS 00:17:10:19 00:17:13:14 He had another newspaper, and he would hide it inside!
SHOE SHINE FELIX BARRIOS 00:17:14:00 00:17:20:16 And then he started looking. He didn’t like to be seen
reading La Prensa.
NEWSPAPER SELLER ELENA ESTRADA 00:17:24:16 00:17:29:23 Of deaths and accidents, with the head
completely destroyed.
NEWSPAPER SELLER ELENA ESTRADA 00:17:30:05 00:17:35:02 With the feet over there and the hand
cut off.
NEWSPAPER SELLER ELENA ESTRADA 00:17:35:02 00:17:39:19 These images help sell
the papers.
NEWSPAPER SELLER ELENA ESTRADA 00:17:39:23 00:17:42:20 People like to see these things.
NEWSPAPER SELLER ELENA ESTRADA 00:17:42:20 00:17:47:15 They like to see corpses, to know what
happened, or where it happened.
SHOE SHINE FELIX BARRIOS 00:17:47:18 00:17:52:14 Then there are the girls, beautiful, almost naked.
SHOE SHINE FELIX BARRIOS 00:17:52:15 00:17:57:05 A lot of people ask me if I have La Prensa.
I tell them "Yes, here it is."
SHOE SHINE FELIX BARRIOS 00:17:57:06 00:18:03:02 Let me see... Who they have today.
NEWSPAPER SELLER ELENA ESTRADA 00:18:03:13 00:18:07:02 It used to be, if there was an
accident, La Prensa would publish it.
NEWSPAPER SELLER ELENA ESTRADA 00:18:07:03 00:18:09:19 But today other newspapers also report
these events,
NEWSPAPER SELLER ELENA ESTRADA 00:18:09:19 00:18:13:02 but with more extreme photos.
NEWSPAPER SELLER ELENA ESTRADA 00:18:13:11 00:18:17:02 Not more realistic,|but more sensational.
NEWSPAPER SELLER ELENA ESTRADA 00:18:17:03 00:18:22:03 I think they even move the bodies, to
show more blood.
SHOE SHINE FELIX BARRIOS 00:18:22:04 00:18:27:09 Dismembered, or burned...
SHOE SHINE FELIX BARRIOS 00:18:27:10 00:18:34:04 Hung, chopped up or stabbed.
SHOE SHINE FELIX BARRIOS 00:18:34:05 00:18:36:12 Totally extreme!
METINIDES 00:18:46:10 00:18:50:10 At the jail I would photograph a murderer.
METINIDES 00:18:50:11 00:18:54:16 When we would go to the morgue I would photograph the
victim.
METINIDES 00:18:54:23 00:18:59:08 Then in the police precinct|I
would photograph the weapon.
METINIDES 00:19:00:13 00:19:04:22 I would make a collage of pictures to deliver the complete
story.
METINIDES 00:19:05:13 00:19:10:12 I realized that if I arrived quickly at a crime scene
METINIDES 00:19:10:13 00:19:13:22 I was able to get the whole story in one photograph.
METINIDES 00:19:18:20 00:19:22:12 By chance this became my profession.
METINIDES 00:19:22:17 00:19:30:03 But it wasn't my plan, I never went to school to learn
photography or journalism.
METINIDES 00:19:30:03 00:19:31:17 It just happened.
METINIDES 00:19:32:16 00:19:37:06 People ask me if I see myself as a photographer, I don't.
METINIDES 00:19:37:12 00:19:40:21 But I don't consider myself a journalist either.
METINIDES 00:19:41:11 00:19:44:20 I don't know what to call myself.
METINIDES 00:19:44:20 00:19:49:05 I just took photographs and people liked them...
METINIDES 00:19:49:11 00:19:51:15 Maybe because of my lucky frogs.
METINIDES 00:20:02:07 00:20:11:14 This is my collection of lucky frogs. I always kept one in
my pocket at work,
METINIDES 00:20:11:16 00:20:15:01 for luck, so I would take a good picture.
METINIDES 00:20:34:12 00:20:37:20 Normally a photographer focuses on just the car crash,
METINIDES 00:20:37:21 00:20:41:06 But I would frame it from a distance so we could see the
crowd.
METINIDES 00:20:41:07 00:20:44:16 It's important because it makes|the
photo come alive.
METINIDES 00:20:48:08 00:20:55:01 There are the rubberneckers, others just looking, and those
who enjoy the drama.
METINIDES 00:20:56:10 00:20:59:19 In the past people would come to help.
METINIDES 00:21:00:04 00:21:04:22 I would arrive and there were hundreds of people there.
METINIDES 00:21:04:22 00:21:09:07 Often, I couldn't even see the accident because of all the
people.
LAZARO GONZALEZ 00:21:16:10 00:21:22:07 When we arrived at an accident there were always lots of
people, they like that.
FELIPE LEON 00:21:22:08 00:21:27:18 At a shooting instead of running away people would gather
around.
FELIPE LEON 00:21:27:19 00:21:30:09 You would think people would run away, on the contrary.
METINIDES 00:21:39:04 00:21:47:07 Often when I took a photo, people would look at the camera
not the accident.
METINIDES 00:22:23:02 00:22:25:19 You could even say, they posed.
METINIDES 00:22:26:02 00:22:30:15 Everyone wants to be seen, and to appear in the newspaper!
METINIDES 00:22:44:05 00:22:49:09 I tried to get to the roof of a building, the window of a
house, or on top of a truck,
METINIDES 00:22:49:10 00:22:54:05 to get a panorama of the whole fire or accident.
METINIDES 00:23:06:04 00:23:10:08 That's why a lot of people don't believe that I don't fly in
planes or helicopters.
METINIDES 00:23:35:06 00:23:40:14 As a boy I saw a lot of aviation movies, I wanted to be a
pilot!
METINIDES 00:23:40:15 00:23:44:19 I swear, I wanted to fly a plane!
FELIPE LEON 00:23:51:03 00:23:54:07 He has his phobias.
FELIPE LEON 00:23:54:09 00:23:58:06 He said, 'I will never fly on a plane', and he never has.
FELIPE LEON 00:23:59:02 00:24:01:05 That's how Metinides is.
METINIDES 00:24:10:19 00:24:13:22 Whenever I went to work I'd take this wallet with me.
METINIDES 00:24:13:23 00:24:19:20 It protected me from dangerous accidents.
METINIDES 00:24:22:00 00:24:24:22 But most of all, the Virgin of Guadalupe.
METINIDES 00:24:25:07 00:24:29:17 That's why despite all my accidents I survived by a miracle.
METINIDES 00:24:47:04 00:24:52:07 50 years of taking pictures in very dangerous situations.
METINIDES 00:24:59:23 00:25:04:09 Here I'm leaping from one train to the next. Look at all the
people below.
METINIDES 00:25:07:17 00:25:12:20 This is the risk you take to get a photo published.
METINIDES 00:25:23:19 00:25:27:05 A factory was burning down.
METINIDES 00:25:28:01 00:25:33:18 I went inside and I entered through this door to take more
photographs.
METINIDES 00:25:35:22 00:25:41:01 While I was taking photographs an iron structure collapsed
on us.
METINIDES 00:25:43:22 00:25:47:05 It fell on top of 5 firemen and me.
METINIDES 00:25:47:05 00:25:52:18 I ended up between the wires and the rubble.
METINIDES 00:25:53:04 00:25:57:13 We were trapped for 6 hours, before getting out, safe and
sound.
METINIDES 00:25:57:14 00:26:02:00 Nothing happened to me, only my clothes were dirty.
METINIDES 00:26:05:17 00:26:08:00 I had a heart attack.
METINIDES 00:26:08:01 00:26:13:03 Here I am in the ER. I took these photos while having a
heart attack.
METINIDES 00:26:13:04 00:26:15:15 I saw, a woman tied up with tape, her hands behind her back.
METINIDES 00:26:15:15 00:26:20:01 Lots of injuries. I have a scar on my arm.
METINIDES 00:26:21:17 00:26:24:02 I broke 6 ribs.
METINIDES 00:26:24:02 00:26:28:12 This rib is completely separated.
METINIDES 00:26:29:06 00:26:36:10 When people ask me how old am I, I remember that cats have 7
lives.
METINIDES 00:26:36:14 00:26:40:01 Counting the 19 times that I was about to die,
METINIDES 00:26:40:01 00:26:43:07 multiplied by the 7 lives of a cat,
METINIDES 00:26:43:07 00:26:47:02 I tell them that I am 133 years old.
JAIME LlERA 00:27:07:03 00:27:11:02 There
are more dangerous places than Mexico City now.
JAIME LlERA 00:27:11:13 00:27:15:19 Culiacan,
Tamaulipas, Guerrero, Michoacan, Veracruz.
JAIME LlERA 00:27:16:01 00:27:21:14 It's
dangerous today to work there, as a journalist reporting on crime.
JAIME LlERA 00:27:21:22 00:27:25:21 Organized
crime threatens them.
JAIME LlERA 00:27:26:03 00:27:31:14 There
have been kidnappings and disappearances of colleagues.
ALEXANDRA MEJIA 00:27:50:06 00:27:57:22 My father used to work long hours.
ALEXANDRA MEJIA 00:27:57:23 00:28:02:11 He'd arrive after we'd gone to bed.
ALEXANDRA MEJIA 00:28:02:17 00:28:06:04 In the morning when we got up for school he wasn't there.
ELIZABETH
MEJIA 00:28:09:09 00:28:14:13 He is organized, extremely organized, meticulous.
MONICA METINIDES 00:28:20:23 00:28:25:02 He'd leave his clothes ready in case there was a call, so he
could leave quickly.
MONICA METINIDES 00:28:25:02 00:28:28:08 An ambulance would be|waiting for
him outside.
ELIZABETH
MEJIA 00:28:38:00 00:28:42:21 He even slept with his clothes on to save a few seconds.
LAZARO GONZALEZ 00:29:03:02 00:29:08:03 For 12 years I'd see him at the Red Cross|I
always remember how he dressed.
FELIPE LEON 00:29:09:02 00:29:15:23 I've not forgotten. He'd wear a turtle neck, a grey suit and
his tick...
METINIDES 00:29:24:21 00:29:29:01 I don't know what he felt… Fear or something.
METINIDES 00:29:29:01 00:29:32:15 At the newspaper you got used to dressing like this.
METINIDES 00:29:36:21 00:29:44:11 I climbed Popocatepetl 6 times in a suit! Reporting climbing
accidents and plane crashes.
METINIDES 00:29:44:22 00:29:49:23 I ended up with my trousers all torn. It's the way it goes!
METINIDES 00:30:37:16 00:30:45:23 One Sunday at 10 in the morning, a young couple came to
Chapultepec Park,
METINIDES 00:30:45:23 00:30:51:14 to spend Valentine's Day there. They were getting married in
30 days.
METINIDES 00:30:52:12 00:30:55:20 All he had with him was 50 pesos.
METINIDES 00:30:56:04 00:31:01:02 They headed to the area where you rent the boats.
METINIDES 00:31:02:03 00:31:09:16 Two guys with knives threatened them, "Give us what you
have or we'll kill you!"
METINIDES 00:31:09:21 00:31:15:01 He refused. He was with his girlfriend to have some fun...
METINIDES 00:31:15:22 00:31:20:17 None the less they stabbed and killed him.
METINIDES 00:31:32:08 00:31:39:00 When I arrived, he was here on the grass his girlfriend
crying...
METINIDES 00:31:39:00 00:31:43:23 ... beside the body of her future husband.
LAZARO GONZALEZ 00:32:05:01 00:32:09:20 We were always respectful. When the family was on the
scene...
LAZARO GONZALEZ 00:32:09:21 00:32:13:19 ...we didn't take photos if we were asked not to.
LAZARO GONZALEZ 00:32:13:19 00:32:18:19 We always respected that. Today there is no respect...
FELIPE LEON 00:32:18:21 00:32:22:08 But we still did it.
FELIPE LEON 00:32:24:01 00:32:28:17 Because, lets say there were 5
photographers present,
FELIPE LEON 00:32:28:17 00:32:33:14 and a family member asked us not to take photographs.
FELIPE LEON 00:32:33:23 00:32:40:02 Someone always violated their request and took photos
anyway.
FELIPE LEON 00:32:40:14 00:32:46:06 Because if someone took a photo and I didn't, I'd end up
with a problem with my own paper.
FELIPE LEON 00:32:46:19 00:32:49:02 It was difficult.
PEDRO MEYER 00:32:50:17 00:32:59:04 There's a new law in 2 states in the U.S. that if someone
appears in a photograph...
PEDRO MEYER 00:32:59:04 00:33:03:05 ... taken on the street, they can sue you.
PEDRO MEYER 00:33:11:21 00:33:24:03 Litigious societies wrap themselves in so many laws to
control all the rights and everything...
PEDRO MEYER 00:33:24:21 00:33:29:05 but in the process they lose their freedom.
PEDRO MEYER 00:33:32:17 00:33:39:09 In a less litigious society, two elements dominate...
PEDRO MEYER 00:33:40:00 00:33:42:23 Violence and common sense.
PEDRO MEYER 00:33:43:09 00:33:45:05 Nothing else.
METINIDES 00:34:01:06 00:34:06:17 We'd use 35 mm film with 36 photos on each roll.
METINIDES 00:34:07:10 00:34:11:21 Sometimes on each roll there might be up to 8 different
stories.
METINIDES 00:34:23:10 00:34:26:04 We had to be careful how many frames we shot.
METINIDES 00:34:26:04 00:34:28:22 We didn't have the luxury of making sequences.
METINIDES 00:34:31:05 00:34:36:21 But when a case was very interesting I would take 3 or 4
rolls of the same story.
METINIDES 00:34:36:22 00:34:42:23 For example, when I went to a fire and shot 2 or 3 rolls,
METINIDES 00:34:43:12 00:34:45:09 and there were no injuries,
METINIDES 00:34:45:10 00:34:51:00 I'd be asked why did you waste 3 rolls of film when,
METINIDES 00:34:51:00 00:34:55:23 we'll just publish one still from the fire. That was their
attitude.
METINIDES 00:34:57:21 00:35:01:06 Sometimes I shot 100 photos in a day.
METINIDES 00:35:01:19 00:35:04:22 3000 a month. In a year?
METINIDES 00:35:05:06 00:35:07:17 And in 49 years?
STEVE PYKE 00:36:02:13 00:36:07:05 The first time I saw this picture was in Enrique's apartment
in Mexico City
STEVE PYKE 00:36:06:11 00:36:10:06
and I saw it on the front page
of a copy of La Prensa.
STEVE PYKE 00:36:10:11 00:36:14:22
It's such an incredible composition to me, almost like a
religious painting
STEVE PYKE 00:36:15:03 00:36:19:05 and everybody is looking but there is no sign of horror on
anyone's face.
STEVE PYKE 00:36:20:10 00:36:23:11 It looks like Enrique stopped the procession but you can
guarantee he didn't
STEVE PYKE 00:36:24:16 00:36:25:02 and he got barged aside. I bet he photographed maybe like,
STEVE PYKE 00:36:26:07
00:36:29:18 this frame, maybe two, and he managed to get out.
STEVE PYKE 00:36:30:23 00:36:32:20 This hangs in my kitchen in New York.
STEVE PYKE 00:36:34:01 00:36:36:03 And when people come and look at it, and look at it close,
STEVE PYKE 00:36:37:08 00:36:40:04 um, the first thing they do is they kinda
like, they flinch
STEVE PYKE 00:36:40:09 00:36:44:06 And they go, "God! What would you want that in your kitchen for?"
STEVE PYKE 00:36:45:11 00:36:48:22 Then they always come back.
They always come back and look at it.
STEVE PYKE 00:36:50:03 00:36:53:12 You know? And that's people's natural reaction to pictures
like this.
ENRIQUE BUENROSTRO 00:37:13:13 00:37:21:07 It was a very penetrating scream.
ENRIQUE BUENROSTRO 00:37:24:15 00:37:27:11 How can I tell you? Very...
ENRIQUE BUENROSTRO 00:37:39:01
00:37:42:10 The market came to a standstill.
RICARDO BENITEZ 00:37:42:19 00:37:50:13 When I heard Melania's mother shout,
"My daughter! My daughter!"
RICARDO BENITEZ 00:37:50:19 00:37:55:18 We knew that her hand was trapped in the meat grinder.
RICARDO BENITEZ 00:37:56:17 00:38:00:01 I'm back here, you can only see my face.
RICARDO BENITEZ 00:38:02:10 00:38:11:05 And the only way to help was to dismantle it and take it
with the girl,
RICARDO BENITEZ 00:38:11:07 00:38:17:03 and go with her to the Green Cross.
ENRIQUE BUENROSTRO 00:38:17:04 00:38:24:03 The day after the accident I saw the photograph in La Prensa.
ENRIQUE BUENROSTRO 00:38:29:09 00:38:35:12 The job of a reporter is to tell the news,
RICARDO BENITEZ 00:38:35:13 00:38:42:21 even when it hurts us, and the wound is still open. No one
wants their drama published.
RICARDO BENITEZ 00:38:42:22 00:38:49:09 They make a living from this, taking advantage of the pain
of strangers.
ENRIQUE BUENROSTRO 00:38:49:19 00:38:59:10 Not only the pain of this kind of accident, it could also be
a car crash or a fire.
RICARDO BENITEZ 00:38:59:22 00:39:05:12 We don't want to feel this pain, and then have to share it
publicly.
RICARDO BENITEZ 00:39:06:00 00:39:10:16 We would like to keep it to ourselves, because the pain
never goes away.
RICARDO BENITEZ 00:39:10:19 00:39:14:15 The pain lasts a long time.
DAN GILROY 00:39:46:03 00:39:49:05 Oscar Wilde had a great line, that you can tell a country by
its prisons.
DAN GILROY 00:39:49:10
00:40:52:09 I think in many ways, you can tell also a country by its news
and their approach to news.
DAN GILROY 00:39:55:14 00:39:59:22 And I think what you see is that Mexican news is historically
more graphic and lurid
DAN GILROY 00:40:08:03
00:40:04:01 than even anything that the yellow journalism in the United
States, in New York City
DAN GILROY 00:40:01:06
00:40:06:04 in the 1940's really tackled.
DAN GILROY 00:40:06:09 00:40:07:09 Some of the stringers "night crawlers" who I
worked with on my film,
DAN GILROY 00:40:09:14 00:40:13:06 who shoot in Los Angeles, the most graphic, violent images
DAN GILROY 00:40:14:11 00:40:17:23 they can't sell to the US market. They sell them to Mexican
market.
DAN GILROY 00:40:38:11 00:40:42:03 I think the United States has always tried to live by an
ideal.
DAN GILROY 00:40:42:08 00:40:47:03 I'm gonna say it’s a faux ideal
in the sense that
DAN GILROY 00:40:46:08 00:40:52:22 we do not want to look at anything negative, that might
reflect negatively on our society or culture.
DAN GILROY 00:40:53:03 00:40:56:23 And where you specifically see it when the United States
gets into a war.
DAN GILROY 00:40:57:04 00:40:59:09 We will always hide, and historically have always hid our
war dead.
ALBERT S 00:41:02:09 00:41:07:12 America was built on violence. We celebrate violence,
ALBERT S 00:41:08:02 00:41:11:12 we are enthralled by violence, we
are drawn in by violence.
ALBERT S 00:41:12:17 00:41:19:20 However, when it is real, we cannot digest it.
ALBERT S 00:41:20:15 00:41:25:21 So, these photographs are very real, but I don't feel as
though they celebrate violence.
ALBERT S 00:41:26:02 00:41:31:21 I think they document the hazards and the situations
ALBERT S 00:42:40:02 00:41:35:21 that we can all find ourselves in, day to day life.
RICARDO MOYA 00:41:46:05 00:41:50:04 In Mexico, something curious happens.
RICARDO MOYA 00:41:50:08 00:41:54:16 A lot of information about the violence here gets reported
outside Mexico.
RICARDO MOYA 00:41:54:18 00:42:05:14 People think we live with a knife between our teeth and a
gun hidden in our clothes.
RICARDO MOYA 00:42:05:15 00:42:11:06 There are other countries that don't report their violence.
RICARDO MOYA 00:42:11:07 00:42:21:21 I don't want to say it's censorship, but their media
policies prevent access to that information.
RICARDO MOYA 00:42:23:01 00:42:29:06 But if we don't publish that information we fool ourselves
and we fool the world.
DAN GILROY 00:42:29:30
00:42:34:03 So I think its deeply engrained in the United States, to
keep violent, graphic images
DAN GILROY 00:42:34:08 00:42:35:01
at arms length, to a degree.
DAN GILROY 00:42:35:06 00:42:38:17 I think it's almost, compared to Mexico, it's almost
titillation.
DAN GILROY 00:42:39:22 00:42:41:15 Compared to what you get in Mexico.
DAN GILROY 00:42:56:01
00:42:57:00 It makes me think and wonder and believe
DAN GILROY 00:42:57:08
00:43:00:03 there are probably Metinides'
in every country, to some degree
DAN GILROY 00:43:00:08 00:43:06:17 and each one is reflective, not just of themselves, but the
country they are working in.
METINIDES 00:44:16:09 00:44:18:06 I buy
the newspapers everyday.
METINIDES 00:44:18:10 00:44:22:06 cut and pastes them in an album, by categories.
METINIDES 00:44:23:01 00:44:26:11 Of Narcos, now all the
demonstrations.
METINIDES 00:44:26:22 00:44:30:09 Album: Terrorism in Spain.
METINIDES 00:44:30:10 00:44:34:09 Album: global terrorism.
METINIDES 00:44:34:21 00:44:38:08 The London bombings.
METINIDES 00:44:38:08 00:44:42:08 Israel - Palestine war.
METINIDES 00:44:42:09 00:44:49:12 And this is Iraq. I have 3 albums about Iraq.
METINIDES 00:44:51:06 00:44:56:11 Teasingly, I asked him if the structure of the building
could support all his albums!
METINIDES 00:44:59:01 00:45:03:01 He's always asking me to buy him more. We even know where
they sell albums wholesale!
METINIDES 00:45:03:08 00:45:12:15 I would have liked to be in New York on 'Nine Eleven'.
METINIDES 00:45:13:09 00:45:20:12 I would have liked to photograph the terrorist attack.
METINIDES 00:45:25:12 00:45:31:18 I have albums of everything.
At least 700 albums all in good condition.
MICHAEL HOPPEN 00:45:48:14 00:45:53:03 I've got the one of the woman who has been involved in a
horrific accident.
MICHAEL HOPPEN 00:45:53:08 00:45:58:17 She's dead, and there's a sort of beautiful horror in the
picture.
MICHAEL HOPPEN 00:45:48:23 00:46:02:19 I find it quite difficult to explain to people why I find
this picture beautiful.
MICHAEL HOPPEN 00:46:02:
20 00:46:05:10 - Yeah It’s a conflict.
METINIDES 00:46:06:01 00:46:11:05 There are people who find this scary and others who see it
as art.
METINIDES 00:46:11:05 00:46:15:06 Even though it's of a dead person.
MICHAEL HOPPEN 00:46:14:08
00:46:18:06 How on earth can you live with a picture, of a woman who you
don't know,
MICHAEL HOPPEN 00:46:19:11
00:46:22:13 Whose been cut in half by a car accident? It's a very good
question.
METINIDES 00:46:32:20 00:46:39:21 An ambulance was called to a crash at the corner of
Monterrey and Chapultepec.
RED CROSS WORKER 00:46:39:21 00:46:45:01 One car was trying to move, another wouldn't let him and a
woman was waiting to cross.
RED CROSS WORKER 00:46:45:01 00:46:51:17 The car crashed directly into her. There was nothing else to
do but to stare.
RED CROSS WORKER 00:46:51:17 00:46:55:13 She had a profound expression, it was very intense.
MICHAEL HOPPEN 00:46:55:20
00:47:01:00 This is one of the best pictures I have ever seen, by
anyone, of tragedy.
METINIDES 00:47:02:06 00:47:08:08 She was a woman, her last name was Legorreta. She was a writer.
METINIDES 00:47:09:00 00:47:12:16 The accident took place in 1979.
METINIDES 00:47:13:19 00:47:20:08 That morning she put on her make up,
had her hair done...
METINIDES 00:47:20:08 00:47:27:16 that afternoon was to be the launch of her new book.
COMAMDANTE CRUZ ROJA 00:47:27:17 00:47:35:09 That's how destiny works, we never know when it's all going
to end.
METINIDES 00:47:36:08 00:47:40:08 The newspaper published a photograph with her body covered.
METINIDES 00:47:40:23 00:47:45:10 Her eyes were wide open which is really rare.
DR KRAUS 00:48:09:02 00:48:15:19 The word deceased comes from the Latin, "The one who has
accomplished."
DR KRAUS 00:48:17:15 00:48:19:22 Not everyone dies fulfilled.
DR KRAUS 00:48:20:17 00:48:27:14 There is a difference between dying having struggled against a disease,
DR KRAUS 00:48:27:15 00:48:33:13 versus the brutality of an unexpected death.
DR KRAUS 00:48:34:06 00:48:38:12 You realize that you leave home and sometimes you never
return.
DR KRAUS 00:48:39:05 00:48:47:07 Like those who were killed in a car accident, or fell from a
building, or the victims of murder.
DR KRAUS 00:48:47:13 00:48:49:23 We are nothing, we are no one.
DR KRAUS 00:48:49:23 00:48:58:10 Our journey through life and the universe is circumstancial, fleeting and short...
DR KRAUS 00:48:58:16 00:49:05:19 We don't realize it until disease or the death of a loved
one impacts us.
METINIDES 00:49:49:20 00:49:54:11 Three girls were playing, they had turned on the gas stove.
METINIDES 00:49:54:12 00:49:58:12 When the Red Cross arrived 2 of the girls had already died.
METINIDES 00:49:58:12 00:50:03:22 One was still alive, they put her in the ambulance,
METINIDES 00:50:03:23 00:50:10:18 one of the doctors from the Red Cross gave her
mouth-to-mouth resuscitation.
METINIDES 00:50:11:04 00:50:16:07 They took her to the hospital, but she died.
MONICA METINIDES 00:50:16:08 00:50:25:11 He is sentimental. With kids, old people and pregnant
women...
MONICA METINIDES 00:50:25:13 00:50:29:04 He says he took a lot of photos almost sobbing!
MONICA METINIDES 00:50:29:08 00:50:32:23 It was difficult for him to see so much pain.
METINIDES 00:50:33:16 00:50:41:13 I would leave my camera and help carry the injured to the
ambulances.
FELIPE LEON 00:50:45:14 00:50:50:00 The important thing is knowing how to separate work and
family,
FELIPE LEON 00:50:50:00 00:50:55:14 If you don't you'd go mad, and damage your family.
FELIPE LEON 00:50:55:20 00:51:02:13 Today I photographed a lot of corpses, and there were
children... no, no!
LAZARO GONZALEZ 00:51:03:06 00:51:06:12 It happens and you have to forget.
METINIDES 00:51:06:19 00:51:09:14 We went to a scene where there was a dead girl.
METINIDES 00:51:10:16 00:51:13:18 At that time, there were radios but no codes.
METINIDES 00:51:13:18 00:51:17:09 There was a woman talking by the ambulance,
METINIDES 00:51:17:10 00:51:21:14 while the rescuer was speaking into the radio, that a child
had died.
METINIDES 00:51:21:17 00:51:25:09 The woman fainted and hit her head, we had to bring her to
the Red Cross.
METINIDES 00:51:25:13 00:51:27:06 And that's when I started to make the codes.
COMAMDANTE CRUZ ROJA 00:51:28:23 00:51:39:08 He suggested we use codes to protect families from knowing
the exact situation.
COMAMDANTE CRUZ ROJA 00:51:40:01 00:51:45:01 In the codes of Metinides 11
represents the reporters.
LAZARO GONZALEZ 00:51:45:04 00:51:47:17 They used to tell us, "here come The Elevens."
LAZARO GONZALEZ 00:51:47:19 00:51:49:17 Everybody asked: who are The Elevens?
LAZARO GONZALEZ 00:51:49:18 00:51:55:05 They are the photographers who cover Nota Roja, who were based at the HQ of the Red Cross.
LAZARO GONZALEZ 00:51:55:13 00:52:02:04 The R11 means R for Reporter, 11 for...
FELIPE LEON 00:52:02:04 00:52:08:12 That's the R11, coming to pick us up, to cover an event!
ALEJANDRA METINIDES 00:52:08:19 00:52:12:19 We used to visit him to eat with us at the Red Cross...
ALEJANDRA METINIDES 00:52:12:20 00:52:17:05 He always kept his radio on. We'd ask him to turn it off...
ALEJANDRA METINIDES 00:52:17:05 00:52:20:08 He'd say, No! What if a plane falls down while I'm sitting here.
FELIPE LEON 00:52:20:08 00:52:26:05 When there was a call to the Red Cross, it was easier to go
in an ambulance.
FELIPE LEON 00:52:26:06 00:52:33:04 In an ambulance, other cars would move out of the way.
FELIPE LEON 00:52:33:04 00:52:42:00 They didn't know there were photographers inside.
METINIDES 00:53:09:20 00:53:20:04 I was on my shift at the Red Cross, we received a call that
two gas trucks had crashed.
METINIDES 00:53:20:19 00:53:25:13 Everything was routine. The firemen were helping to stop the
leak.
METINIDES 00:53:25:13 00:53:29:10 A photographer from my newspaper approached me and said...
METINIDES 00:53:29:11 00:53:34:22 "Should we go up on that roof to take pictures? You or
me?
"
METINIDES 00:53:34:22 00:53:38:07 As you wish," I
said. "You go, I'll stay here," he replied.
METINIDES 00:53:38:07 00:53:44:17 I went on the roof, you could see|hundreds
of people and the gas leaking.
METINIDES 00:53:45:12 00:53:50:22 And then the gas started to escape as a cloud.
METINIDES 00:53:57:07 00:53:59:05 I was looking at it, I was taking pictures.
METINIDES 00:54:00:05 00:54:03:04 Then people started fainting.
METINIDES 00:54:05:04 00:54:09:09 It just got horrible.|I
came down with my camera...
METINIDES 00:54:09:18 00:54:14:07 When I was going down the stairs of the 3 storey building,
METINIDES 00:54:22:15 00:54:25:23 I heard the cry of thousands of people.
METINIDES 00:54:26:01 00:54:28:12 I froze like this, I couldn't move.
METINIDES 00:54:28:12 00:54:33:19 My whole life passed through my mind.
METINIDES 00:54:34:12 00:54:37:05 This is the moment just before the explosion.
METINIDES 00:54:38:19 00:54:41:21 All these people died.
METINIDES 00:54:48:16 00:54:52:04 I couldn't move, terrified, frightened by the horror.
METINIDES 00:54:52:08 00:54:56:05 I was scared the building may collapse.
METINIDES 00:54:56:06 00:55:00:03 People ran out of their houses screaming. I ran down the
stairs.
METINIDES 00:55:00:13 00:55:10:01 I got to the street and I saw the doorman in flames like a
human torch.
METINIDES 00:55:21:00 00:55:26:14 I saw people tearing off their clothes and rolling on the
ground to put out the flames.
METINIDES 00:55:26:16 00:55:30:13 While I was taking photographs I ran out of film.
METINIDES 00:55:30:21 00:55:37:05 I ran to the corner, 2 medics and the ambulance driver were
also burnt.
METINIDES 00:55:38:11 00:55:43:03 I started to help people into the ambulance, whose clothes
were burnt off them.
METINIDES 00:55:43:19 00:55:46:01 I filled the ambulance with children.
METINIDES 00:55:49:04 00:55:54:08 I lifted two of them by their belts, it was all that was
left from their clothes.
METINIDES 00:55:54:12 00:55:58:12 I managed to put them inside,
METINIDES 00:55:58:13 00:56:01:13 the ambulance filled up.
METINIDES 00:56:02:20 00:56:08:00 I tried get the ambulance away from the other gas tank that
could still explode.
METINIDES 00:56:08:02 00:56:11:20 My whole body was shaking.
METINIDES 00:56:12:02 00:56:16:00 A Red Cross volunteer arrived and I told him...
METINIDES 00:56:16:08 00:56:22:07 Drive the ambulance, take it out of here! He drove away with
me hanging onto the back door.
METINIDES 00:56:22:13 00:56:29:03 There were at least 15 injured crammed into just one
ambulance.
METINIDES 00:56:29:13 00:56:36:01 In the end 115 persons died. More than 1500 were burnt.
METINIDES 00:56:37:08 00:56:43:04 That night I cried all night, I wanted to quit my job.
METINIDES 00:56:44:02 00:56:49:06 I thought that's enough. I was saved by a miracle.
METINIDES 00:58:28:17 00:58:35:12 As a kid I hopped on fire engines, ambulances and police
cars.
METINIDES 00:58:36:08 00:58:41:12 One day I bought a toy ambulance|because
I rode in the same one.
METINIDES 00:58:41:19 00:58:46:14 Then I bought another and another, when I turned around it
was a collection.
METINIDES 00:58:46:20 00:58:52:00 This is a policeman from Nigeria. This is a Mexican fireman.
METINIDES 00:58:52:01 00:58:54:09 An American fireman.
ELMO! 00:59:05:18 00:59:09:13 Elmo to the rescue!
FABRIZIO LEON 00:59:44:03 00:59:47:03 This was in 1996.
FABRIZIO LEON 00:59:48:04 00:59:51:17 I don't know if he still lives in the same house.
FABRIZIO LEON 01:00:12:15 01:00:25:01 It was more than just luck, he was
a dedicated photographer.
FABRIZIO LEON 01:00:25:09 01:00:31:16 He chose to devote himself to press photography.
FABRIZIO LEON 01:00:31:17 01:00:37:13 It was as though the detectives and forensics were just
working for him!
FABRIZIO LEON 01:00:38:00 01:00:43:04 I thought, I want to be a photographer like him!
FABRIZIO LEON 01:00:50:06 01:00:58:06 He would change parts of the story, and each time they were
slightly different.
FABRIZIO LEON 01:00:58:07 01:01:03:16 But none of that mattered. What was important, were his
photographs.
FABRIZIO LEON 01:01:10:07 01:01:15:11 No one knew about Metinides' work
before I met him. He was unknown.
FABRIZIO LEON 01:01:15:11 01:01:20:15 He'd already retired from the press collective where he
worked.
FABRIZIO LEON 01:01:21:06 01:01:25:11 He found me. Because he was the one who approached me.
FABRIZIO LEON 01:01:25:15 01:01:29:08 He told me, "I want you to see my material."
FABRIZIO LEON 01:01:29:08 01:01:36:05 In that "instance" that was not a photograph, he knew,
because he's very intelligent,
FABRIZIO LEON 01:01:36:14 01:01:42:06 that a lot could come out of our meeting. That was the
beginning of everything.
PEDRO MEYER 01:01:46:15 01:02:00:08 When Metinides took his pictures
as a photojournalist, he didn't have a cultural agenda.
PEDRO MEYER 01:02:00:11 01:02:06:00 It was a way for him to make a living.
FABRIZIO LEON 01:02:06:02 01:02:20:05 As the trust between us grew, he would open another box of
negatives.
FABRIZIO LEON 01:02:20:06 01:02:24:09 It was like discovering a magician.
FABRIZIO LEON 01:02:24:09 01:02:33:02 As a result of this, Enrique Metinides
became a well known Mexican photographer.
FABRIZIO LEON 01:02:34:00 01:02:41:06 So, if today he wants to be paid for his photographs or sell
them...
PEDRO MEYER 01:02:41:09 01:02:44:13 He is just being consistent, that's what he's always done
PEDRO MEYER 01:02:57:20 01:03:05:22 To expect that he should|have a different criteria...
PEDRO MEYER 01:03:06:02 01:03:11:11 is to misunderstand where he's coming from as a
photographer.
MICHAEL NYMAN 01:03:15:04 01:03:19:12 When did he know? When did he realize he was an art
photographer?
MICHAEL NYMAN 01:03:20:19 01:03:24:14 And not only as a question of, he became an art
photographer
MICHAEL NYMAN 01:03:24:19 01:03:28:04 because we, you know, designated him as an art
photographer.
MICHAEL NYMAN 01:03:28:09
01:03:33:08 He was basically doing a job, so he's not an art
photographer in that sense.
MICHAEL NYMAN 01:03:33:13
01:03:38:20 Because he had to make decisions very, very quick, otherwise
he lost the image.
MICHAEL NYMAN 01:03:40:05
01:03:43:09 But here I am standing against a back drop of photographs,
MICHAEL NYMAN 01:03:43:15 01:03:48:09 and
amongst those photographs, are photographs by Enrique.
MICHAEL NYMAN 01:03:50:15
01:03:54:15 I think he's sort of conning us all: I think we're asking
him the wrong questions.
MICHAEL NYMAN 01:03:54:25 01:03:59:22 And he's probably sort of standing there saying, you know,
MICHAEL NYMAN 01:03:59:23 01:04:03:14 why are these kind of, intellectuals, or would-be
intellectuals, asking the wrong questions?
MICHAEL NYMAN 01:04:03:19 01:04:10:00 I think he's got it all
there, and there's a kind of world inside his head that we can't really
penetrate.
CAROLE NADDAR 01:06:42:05
01:06:47:01 Well, New Yorkers are a little bit like, I have seen it all
before, people
CAROLE NADDAR 01:06:47:06
01:06:50:06 but I think this should be a very strong exhibition
CAROLE NADDAR 01:06:50:12
01:06:55:22 because it's really not the usual kind of photography they
are used to seeing.
DENISE WOLFF 01:07:02:22 01:07:07:11 Well for me, I worked with these pictures for over a year,
over and over again,
DENISE WOLFF 01:07:07:16 01:07:13:15 but I've just seen them so many times now they don't have
the same impact on me that they once did.
DENISE WOLFF 01:07:13:20 01:07:17:15 Except for the plane crash. I really don't like to look at
that because
DENISE WOLFF 01:07:17:20 01:07:21:20 that is the kind of plane I would normally get on. That's a
big jet.
DENISE WOLFF 01:07:21:25 01:07:26:13 Like it could happen to me. And I don't... I don't like
that photograph.
CAROLE NAGGAR 01:07:35:01 01:07:40:11 It's a little bit like being a rubber necker
on the highway.
CAROLE NAGGAR 01:07:40:17 01:07:45:02 And you know you don’t want to stop, but you still cannot
but stop and look.
CAROLE NAGGAR 01:07:45:11
01:07:51:10 And there is, of course, this feeling of better them than me.
CAROLE NAGGAR 01:07:51:15
01:07:55:20 That's at the back of your mind. That's not a very pretty
feeling but I think we all have it.
CAROLE NAGGAR 01:08:09:04
01:08:13:13 There is one picture that I feel especially attracted too in
the show.
CAROLE NAGGAR 01:08:13:18
01:08:16:19 It's a large color picture, a
vertical.
CAROLE NAGGAR 01:08:17:00 01:08:21:23 It represents a man lying on the ground that I assume is
dead.
NIC RATNER 01:08:21:30
01:08:27:08 If you think about photography, even on any level, whether it
be
NIC RATNER 01:08:28:13
01:08:31:20 some celebration, of a birthday, or some vista of a place
you've been.
NIC RATNER 01:08:32:01
01:08:34:18 Things seem nice, memories are always
tender.
NIC RATNER 01:08:34:23 01:08:39:20 His photographs are literally a birth of a bad memory,
NIC RATNER 01:08:40:00 01:08:43:17 something that people will spend their lives trying not to
remember and they will fail.
CAROLE NAGGAR 01:08:43:22
01:08:50:14 Strangely, one thing that I keep looking at in this picture,
is a little detail.
CAROLE NAGGAR 01:08:50:19
01:08:54:22 The guy has dirty socks. He died with dirty socks on.
CAROLE NAGGAR 01:08:55:03 01:08:59:15 And it is incredibly touching and sad for me.
CAROLE NAGGAR 01:09:01:15
01:09:04:11 It's like a film set, but at the same time you know it's real.
CAROLE NAGGAR 01:09:04:16 01:09:09:08 And you get to look for a long time at things that you just
glance at in real life.
CAROLE NAGGAR 01:09:09:13
01:09:14:19 So I guess that's the difference between photography and life.
NIC RATNER 01:09:20:05 01:09:28:05 All of these people, they started off that day, as normally
as they would.
NIC RATNER 01:09:28:10
01:09:31:14 So there was, you know,
they would have coffee for breakfast, and anything…
NIC RATNER 01:09:31:19 01:09:36:10 They are not like condemned people, who are walking toward
their imminent demise.
NIC RATNER 01:09:36:15 01:09:39:17 This was all just the randomness of the universe,
NIC RATNER 01:09:39:22
01:09:46:23
which connects them, to you and me. Right here, right now. Today.
DAN GILROY 01:10:23:01
01:10:30:03 I
believe we are all in a bubble bouncing down a street surrounded by broken glass
DAN GILROY 01:10:30:08 01:10:33:22 and we are fooling ourselves by the shinyness
of it, thinking it's not gonna happen.
DAN GILROY 01:10:33:30 01:10:37:13 At any moment in can happen. And I think deep down we all know
that at any moment it can happen.
DAN GILROY 01:10:49:20 01:10:55:11 Much
of civilized society is designed to make you forget about the fact that you're
mortal.
DAN GILROY 01:10:59:09 01:11:01:08 And we all know that's not true. And when it pops up and we
can see it,
DAN GILROY 01:11:01:13
01:11:06:23 I think there's a moment where we go, that's probably more
true than anything I'm living at the moment.
METINIDES 01:11:15:19
01:11:20:03 It begins here, in the middle.
METINIDES 01:11:33:24 01:11:33:24 That one is really...
METINIDES 01:11:36:23 01:11:38:22 Look at it.
METINIDES 01:11:44:04
01:11:46:11 It's horrible. Should I change it?
METINIDES 01:11:56:11
01:12:00:11 I took photos, but I took videos as a hobby.
METINIDES 01:12:03:18 01:12:05:24 It's horrible isn't it?
ALEJANDRA METINIDES 01:12:10:24 01:12:17:11 My old boss would ask, "After everything he's seen how
does your father sleep at night?"
ALEJANDRA METINIDES 01:12:17:13
01:12:21:22 I told him, someone has to do that job.
ALEJANDRA METINIDES 01:12:21:23
01:12:28:08 I don't think the person who cleans the sewers particularly
enjoys his work.
METINIDES 01:12:28:08 01:12:31:23 But in this world some of us have a mission.
METINIDES 01:12:33:00
01:12:36:16 Someone had to do it.|If
it wasn't me it would have been another photographer.
METINIDES 01:12:36:22
01:12:44:05 You need to have a strong character and patience to take these
photographs.
METINIDES 01:12:44:10 01:12:46:10 You have to be a special kind of person.
METINIDES 01:12:47:03 01:12:53:06 I would arrive at an accident and there would be 90, 110
dead people.
METINIDES 01:12:53:22
01:12:55:19 Some really horrific accidents.
METINIDES 01:12:55:22
01:13:02:16 Sometimes I would fall asleep dreaming about an accident I'd
just witnessed.
RICARDO MOYA 01:13:06:22 01:13:11:13 After a while you become desensitized, but you know you always had that thick
skin.
RICARDO MOYA 01:13:11:17
01:13:15:00 From the beginning you could always say, I don't want to do
this.
RICARDO MOYA 01:13:15:04
01:13:18:05 You can say, I don't like it.
RICARDO MOYA 01:13:18:14 01:13:21:11 After a while, you do it and you do it and then...
RICARDO MOYA 01:13:21:24
01:13:27:21 What you see, you manage to separate from your own life.
RICARDO MOYA 01:13:27:21
01:13:34:01 At home I never mention what I saw last night. That's right.
METINIDES 01:13:36:03
01:13:45:15 I got used to it. It was everyday,
everyday, I miss doing that.
METINIDES 01:13:45:19
01:13:49:02 One day I dreamt about a fire.
METINIDES 01:13:50:15
01:13:57:16 I woke up and went to work, and in the afternoon there was a
fire...
METINIDES 01:13:57:17
01:14:03:20 And it was exactly the same fire I had seen in my dream.
METINIDES 01:17:13:02
01:17:16:19 They ask me, in your life how many bodies have you seen?
METINIDES 01:17:16:19 01:17:21:15 I think from here to the Popocatepetl. I don't know how to
answer them.
METINIDES 01:17:22:02 01:17:24:16 It was everyday, everyday.
METINIDES 01:18:21:05 01:18:27:05 Things have always happened but not as violent as today.
METINIDES 01:18:27:06
01:18:32:00 There were less of them. There were bank robberies but about
one every year.
METINIDES 01:18:32:06
01:18:37:03 There were only one or two kidnappings each year.
METINIDES 01:18:37:03 01:18:43:17 It was very different. There were a lot of crimes but they
were crimes of passion.
METINIDES 01:18:44:04
01:18:49:20 Or drunks in a brawl. Those were the crimes.
METINIDES 01:18:49:20 01:18:56:21 Not the bloody crimes we see today. It was another type of
violence.
METINIDES 01:18:57:01 01:19:01:11 A knife vs. a gun. But now they mutilate people.
POLICEMAN 01:19:25:03 01:19:28:18 - You can't do anything.|- Shut up!
RELATIVE OF VICTIM 01:19:32:10 01:19:35:05 Let me see him!
METINIDES 01:20:23:23 01:20:29:19 If they published everything, You
wouldn't want to live here.
METINIDES 01:20:30:00 01:20:32:01 It's become another world.
METINIDES 01:20:32:18 01:20:36:15 When we know even one or two things that happened, we get scared.
METINIDES 01:20:37:03 01:20:41:13 Now the police patrol.
METINIDES 01:20:47:23 01:20:53:05 The person who takes the photographs, sees exactly how
things are.
METINIDES 01:20:53:12 01:20:59:02 But sometimes, the next day you don't see the photographs
published.
METINIDES 01:20:59:12 01:21:05:02 It's because people suffer if they see them. The country
would suffer.
METINIDES 01:21:06:01 01:21:09:08 It happened like this all my life.
METINIDES 01:21:10:04 01:21:15:13 We saw a lot of things that were never published.
METINIDES 01:21:17:10 01:21:23:17 And now that the situation is much worse it's better not to
know what is happening.
METINIDES 01:21:24:02 01:21:28:12 I think it's better not to know.
METINIDES 01:21:29:08 01:21:33:18 Because it's frightening.
METINIDES 01:21:48:22 01:21:52:13 Another... another question.
POSTSCRIPT
JAIME LLERA 01:26:16:18 01:26:26:23 I saw, a woman tied up with tape, her hands behind her back.
JAIME LLERA 01:26:27:03 01:26:30:14 There was so much blood.
JAIME LLERA 01:26:31:01 01:26:40:05 I never imagined that one of the victims was a colleague of
mine.
RICARDO MOYA 01:26:40:06 01:26:42:13 The truth is that I didn't know Ruben personally.
RICARDO MOYA 01:26:42:13 01:26:46:16 But, Jaime called me that morning as usual.
RICARDO MOYA 01:26:46:17 01:26:48:17 He asked me what happened?
RICARDO MOYA 01:26:48:19 01:26:55:00 He told me it was his colleague, Ruben.
JAIME LLERA 01:26:55:08 01:26:58:23 More than angry, it's left me with a sense of
impotence!
JAIME LLERA 01:26:58:23 01:27:04:05 We have to continue...Keep it together!
JAIME LLERA 01:27:05:13 01:27:08:17 Whet else can we do? There's nothing we can do...
JAIME LLERA 01:27:08:17 01:27:11:21 But who are we fighting against? We can't say who is
actually responsible.
RICARDO MOYA 01:27:11:22 01:27:15:02 That's the worry. When you realize...
RICARDO MOYA 01:27:15:17 01:27:18:14 that the criminal elements are also the most powerful!
RICARDO MOYA 01:27:18:18 01:27:23:10 When the government does nothing to protect us,
RICARDO MOYA 01:27:23:15 01:27:27:17 and, if you speak out against their interests! They become
your enemy!
RICARDO MOYA 01:27:27:23 01:27:29:12 This is what happened here.
RICARDO MOYA 01:27:29:14 01:27:38:19 All we can do is process and deal with this atrocity in our
own way.
RICARDO MOYA 01:27:38:23 01:27:42:19 But we have no choice but to continue We don’t have the
luxury of giving up
RICARDO MOYA 01:27:42:20 01:27:48:15 as photographers and as journalists, we have to document the next event.