TRANSCRIPT - BORDERLAND BLUES - 73MIN - FEATURE VERSION
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00:14 |
Driving along the border |
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00:36 |
Rancher John Ladd driving his pickup truck |
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00:58 |
Impressions of the |
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fence |
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02:11 |
Tim Foley patroling the border |
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02:22 |
Tim Foley patroling the border |
02:44 |
Interview Tim Foley |
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03:20 |
Tim Foley patroling the border |
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John Ladd :
Well this part of the wall was built in 2006 by American Army. And then further down in 2007 a contractor built it and then in 2008 they built it on the west side of the San Pedro River. That's the big wall. But this doesn't work.
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Tim Foley:
People call me a nailer, that's my call sign. I try not to give out my real name, because of the cartels on the other side. I started an organization called the Arizona Border Recon. We don't claim to be a militia.
Because the media has portrayed militias in this country as a bad thing. Basically as just a bunch of racist guys with guns running around wanting to shoot everything. And so we classify ourselves as a
Tim Foley (talking to radio):
Still get a good sign of many people. Too many for just Border Patrol. And they look like they're trying to blend in with the Mexican there and other vibrams.
John Spartan (on radio):
Copy.. You got a lot of people trying to blend in with Boder Patrol.
Tom Foley:
Roger that.
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Tim Foley patroling the border |
How the cartels work in this area is, they pretty much have all the high |
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mountains, they have scouts sitting on. And they have a string of them that |
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goes from south to north all the way up to where their |
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Regardless if it's human or drugs that is coming they have a guide with |
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them. And the guide is called the coyote and the coyote has |
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communications with the guys on top of the mountains. |
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„Which way they go Rocko? (talking to his dog) Well I think that went that |
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way.“ |
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In the five years it's getting worse. The violence is escalating because it's no |
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man's land. Yeah, there is a track right there. |
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Desert impressions |
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NGO volunteer Paige |
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driving her pickup truck |
My name is Paige |
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organization No More Deaths. We go out to different places in the desert |
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where we have mapped migrant trails and so we leave food water and socks |
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and sometimes blankets in strategic locations where people are likely to just |
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find them. Yeah the work can be tiring but I think it's really important and I |
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think I'm in a pretty unique position where I speak good Spanish and have |
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some medical skills. It can be hard because I think a lot of the time when I |
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just think about what we're trying to fight against and what people who are |
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crossing are dealing with, what were able to do is actually really really small |
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and that can feel really disappointing a lot when you just see a lot of |
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suffering but you can't do anything about it because there's this whole |
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system setup to create this suffering. And it's very intentional. I think one of |
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the most difficult things for me is just seeing this constant violence by |
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Border Patrol and violence by just the border in general and what people |
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are kind of coming from and dealing with as they cross. |
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Paige
Agent:
You guys are going back there for a while?
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Not shure |
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Well we're gonna go check this area out right now |
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Oh ok |
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If you guys gonna go back there to make your water drops we just come |
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Paige: |
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Alright |
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You guys are going down? |
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Yeah we are going down there in a bit |
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How is it going? |
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Paige: |
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Have a good day |
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No. The guy with the camera |
07:22 |
Paige packing her backpack with water and food |
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08:20 |
Tim Foley and John Spartan patroling the border |
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with their SUV |
Hello this is Tim with the Arizona Border Recon down in Sasabe giving you a |
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the fence and then we're gonna go up through Camaro up to TV Road. We'll |
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be in a |
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08:53 |
Border impression |
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09:18 |
Tim Foley showing the border fence |
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This is what we like to classify as the pedestrian walk around. If you don't |
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want to take the three seconds to climb the fence you can just walk in a mile |
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and walk around it. See the fence? They can't even do a straight fence. And |
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the interesting thing about this, the Normandy, you know it's so rigid that |
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when they go across washes they don't go down in and they go across and |
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you just walk underneath them. You see and this is how ecologically minded |
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we are you know. You don't want to hurt the little tree so they brought that |
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but it doesn't connect. Save the tree. Doesn't even tie in together. A tree is |
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probably a better barrier than the actual fence. |
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10:26 |
Interview Tim Foley |
When people say you know this is a big race thing. It's not really a race thing |
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because they're 78 different countries that are coming across our border |
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right now. You've got Russians, Chinese, Brazilians, Pakistanis Somali, you've |
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got everybody and their brother coming across this thing because it's |
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hanging so wide open .Who are all these people? We don't know. |
11:03 |
Impressions Border Security Expo |
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11:30 |
Female speaker at panel |
On a typical day law enforcement numbers might look like this. We |
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apprehend 1300 illegal aliens between the ports of entry. We arrest 20 |
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wanted criminals. My favourite. We intercept 425 agricultural threats, such as |
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the Giant African Land Snail. Which by the way is highly invasive and |
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destructive. Our imperative is to stay ahead of those who do us harm by |
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predictive modeling of their strategies and their use of technology and |
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resources. |
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12:19 |
Security equipment salesman explaining his |
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surveillance truck. |
This is the MSC platform otherwise known as the mobile surveillance capability. It's mounted on a F450 truck, so It's very rugged, v8, very powerful get to high mountains and go through terrain. And once you're in a position it takes about 15 to 20 minutes to get this system online and we're picking up people. Picking up movement were able to track them were able to track them within a a 12 kilometer perimeter. So what you see here is a scan sector just
13:08 |
Interview Tim Foley and John Spartan |
John: |
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The awesome virtual fence that the Border Patrol put up, the |
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camera system that they have is fantastic, absolutely love it. It's a brilliant |
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idea and it works like a champ, If somebody's watching the right screen. If |
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the cameras pointed in the right direction. If the camera can see down a |
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wash. If there's an agent on the ground available to respond. |
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If the weather permits it to operate properly. |
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John: |
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.. if.. They're great, they work great when all these things are in place and the |
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sun and the moon and Venus are lined up just right and you know,.. |
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The only thing you gonna see is Uranus. |
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Desert impressions |
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Native american Orphelia Rivas standing at her |
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My name's Ophelia Rivas. |
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14:24 |
Interview Orphelia Rivas |
Orphelia: |
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The house that standing here to the right of me is the third house that has |
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been built there I was born there and when I was a child we didn't have |
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electricity or running water and my parents, we're all from O'Odham they're |
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all O'Odham, and our lands are now divided by an international border in |
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the size of Connecticut but it’s only a third of our original land, original |
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homeland. |
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Orphelia Rivas showing a group of NGO |
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volunteers the border fence. |
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Orphelia:
And right now i guess there's been a big problem since the militarization of our lands. To have so much aggression on our people makes so much impact, not just psychological but physical. We are all tormented by what's happening to our lands right now. Before 9/11 there was a increase of Border Patrol here on the nation and after 9/11 they announced that they were going to increase the Border Patrol on the border. But they were already here.
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Orphelia Rivas crossing the border |
Orphelia: |
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Like I said, this is O'Odham land and this is O'Odham land. I have every |
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right to be here I have right to collect my food, collect my medicines, visit |
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my family be a part of my family on both sides of the border. That's what I'm |
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saying. You know there is something wrong with this picture. |
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Orphelia Rivas at the border |
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How much does this cost to do? |
Orphelia: Millions of dollars.
We were saying why did they go around the cactus over here instead of making the fence straight?
And they said something about why they went around. I said, well maybe the cactus didn't have papers. The cactus didn't have papers, so they included it in Mexico instead of on this side.
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17:10 |
John Ladd driving in his pickup truck |
It's been in our family 118 years. My |
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not as bad as it used to be but there's still enough people coming through. |
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There's more dope coming across now than ever. So even though there's |
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fewer illegals, the damage caused by the people packing drugs is more |
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substantial. Because now you've got to go find where the fence is cut then |
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you got to put the cows back where you want to put them. So you spend |
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half a day doing something like that that you shouldn't have to do if they |
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would control the border. We can get out and I'll show you these drive- |
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through's in here. Where they cut the wall for the trucks to come in |
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John Ladd at the border wall |
They cut the wall right at the ground. Right down at ground level up the side |
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up to here, take all of it down, drive a truck through full of marijuana then |
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they get up on my ranch and then go to the highway. Then there's one, two, |
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three, Right here there's two more down there and there's one more up |
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here that's just one spot where they have done this. There are three spots on |
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the ranch that they're doing this kind of stuff. |
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19:00 |
Impressions from life stock auction |
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19:40 |
Veterinarian Gary Thrasher at work |
Gary: |
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I'm Gary Thrasher, Im a veterinarian my practice is almost entirely ranch, |
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cow, calf and horse practise. I travel about 200 miles of the border, have |
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clients all along the border. |
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Worker on horse: |
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How are you doing doc? Pretty good? |
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Gary: |
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Pretty good. |
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Worker on horse: |
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Lot of work today? Busy? |
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Gary: |
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The Border Patrol doesn't feel that they can properly secure the border at |
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the International bounding, … |
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20:14 |
Gary Thrasher driving his pickup truck |
so their philosophy is to protect the border in depth. |
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20:20 |
Interview Gary Thrasher |
This means a few people at the border to detect what has come across. And |
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then a lot more people farther in the border to capture those that crossed |
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and then farther up even more to capture those that got away from there. |
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What that does though is that space of time between the international |
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border and their secondary place where they catch up with them after they |
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chase them, is the ranches that I work with. And those ranches are really a |
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chasing field, a big playing field for the Border Patrol to make their captures |
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and they have to make the captures, some at least so that they have metrics, |
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so they have statistics to report back to Congress. |
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Gary Thrasher showing us the border situation |
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from a mountain top |
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You can see the border from here by the long steel fence that goes down this side, goes all the way down to the San Pedro River then stops, then starts again on the other side of the river and goes all the way to Naco and pass that. As we look on the other side going west that's going to east. Going west, if you come over to this side of the monument The only way you can see the border from here is the little small track in that saddle below the mountain.
The rest of it does not have a big wall it only has a small vehicle barrier and there's access to it but you can't see it from here and you can see all the swells and dips and things, so it's almost impossible for somebody up here to really tell when anything's going on down there no matter how
22:43 |
Impressions of border security equipment, and |
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border patrol pickup driving through desert |
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24:05 |
John Ladd talking to Border Patrol Agent at the |
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border fence |
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24:17 |
Interview John Ladd at border fence |
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My real big impact is my privacy. I've got cameras i got Border Patrol I got |
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sensors I got radar and they’re watching me all the time, Border Patrol. And |
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I'm used to it now but if you think about it you know how would you like |
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that? You got three cameras around your house What do you think? When |
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they put the cameras up my wife says we need to plant some trees, so we |
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got trees in front of all the windows now. It bothers her more than me but |
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when my mother was alive it bothered my mom and those people are |
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watching. I know, I can see that camera looking right at us. Sure they are. |
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25:02 |
Impression little border town |
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25:21 |
At „Robertos Electric“ Impressions and Interviews |
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with electrician Roberto Carranza and his wife |
I've been living in Arizona for the last 20 years. Before that, I got a degree in |
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agriculture in Mexico. I worked in agriculture for a while. Then came the |
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economic crisis and I had to quit the cattle market. Then I became an |
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electrician. Fortunately everything went well. |
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Two young children arrived to one day at about four o'clock in the morning |
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on sunday morning. Roberto went out and there was two children on the |
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fence because our dogs were barking a lot he went to see what was going |
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on and there was two little boys, one about 10 and 8 I think we're their ages |
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and they had been lost three nights. This was sunday morning and they've |
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been lost since friday evening. They were coming across with a group and |
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had gotten separated when they ran from the Border Patrol and they were |
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never able to get back together with the group. So they started wandering |
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through the desert and finally to days later they found a way to our place. |
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One of the boys had a Mexican phone number with him. He gave it to me |
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and I called. I reached people from Guerrero. The man I spoke to seemed |
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very upset. He was the grandfather of the two boys. He wanted to know |
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what happened to them. I told him: Don't worry, they are OK They are with |
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me now. |
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I gave him my number and told him that everything would be fine. This |
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calmed him down. This calmed him down. Their mother lived in the US and |
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hadn't been able to reach them. The grandparents told her and several days |
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later, they came to pick up the boys. I don't know how they transported |
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them. I asked for an ID to make sure they were family. |
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29:00 |
Desert impressions |
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29:14 |
Life stock Auction impressions |
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29:41 |
Gary Thrasher at his barn |
Gary: |
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There is probably a few cattle across the road there but you can't see them |
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from here. Probably they're all over there about a hundred head out there. |
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This is kind of an interesting barn.See this little door here? One time we had |
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lot of people coming Migrants coming across here coming from the border |
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and coming through here and they stopped here to try to find water hoses. |
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One morning I came out here and I heard noises in the top of the barn and I |
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thought a coyote had gotten into chase the cat. That's a door for the cat to |
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get in and out to keep the mice down so there’s no snakes. |
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Anyway when I got in here and went upstairs to see what was there it was a |
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group of men who had come from Mexico and I told them that they were in |
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trouble because they broke into a locked barn. They said: No, no, it wasn't |
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locked. I said: Show me the door that was open? They showed me that. One |
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small man crawled through there and open the door for everybody so they |
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could go in. And when I was in the barn the man were upstairs. And when I |
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talk to them up there and told him I was calling the Border Patrol I heard a |
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lot of noise downstairs. And water running and I said: Who's downstairs? |
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They answered: Nobody. I went down there there's two women they were |
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taking a shower, we have a shower in the barn here. So they were using it for |
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transport place before they went further on. |
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NGO volunteers at border patrol checkpoint |
White person? Yes. |
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We are watching the border patrol and we're watching to see if there’s any |
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racial profiling. To see who is required to show identification and to observe |
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their behavior. How they talk to people, treat people. |
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Hi Kyle, how are you? That's a nice wood you got. They call him Kyle. It's |
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Greg. |
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There's a lot of irony there. It means that even though those tactics aren't |
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necessarily being directed at residents primarily. They're for people |
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crossing. But they they still get directed at residets because there's just such |
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a concentration of law enforcement so people have Border Patrol pointing |
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guns at them on their own property. They're being stopped at this |
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checkpoint anytime they try to leave their community and there's just a |
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general really like tense feeling living under all of this. Day to day. |
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Driving through U.S. Border Patrol checkpoint |
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United States Boder Patrol immigration inspection. Can I see passports |
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please |
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Interview Orphelia Rivas |
We have four main exits out of the reservation to the South there is Arizona |
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Sonoita Sonora, there's a checkpoint. Leaving to the north to Gila Bend |
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there's another checkpoint. Leaving to go to Casa Grande there's another |
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checkpoint. That's north. And then east to Tucson there's another |
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checkpoint. So within that small space we're completely surrounded. |
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34:29 |
Border Patrol Checkpoint impressions |
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35:26 |
Interview Orphelia Rivas |
My daughter was working in Tucson, so we're driving back to Tucson and |
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now we got pulled over by a Border Patrol and he immediately asked me to |
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state my citizenship. Whether i was a U.S. citizen or Mexican citizen.I said I'm |
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an O’Odham and you are on my land. Where are you from? So he |
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immediately unclipped his pistol on the side and he put it at my head. |
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He said: You will say you are a U.S. citizen or Mexican citizen. And he did that |
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in front of my daughter and my grandson was little and both of them |
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started crying, but he continued to say that he would deport me, he would |
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throw me on the pavement, handcuff me and deport me. I said: I'm |
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O'Odham, you're on my land. Where are you going to deport me to? If |
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you're going to deport me to Mexico, that's my land, too. My community is |
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on that side too. At that point another Border Patrol came and saw what was |
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happening and it stopped and we went on our way. |
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Desert impression |
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37:00 |
Tim Foleys home |
Tim: |
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This is the bleeding heart newspaper of the humanitaian’s. I think.. They |
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believe what they wanna believe. Yeah, it … It's really weird. |
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You're making coffee? Oh good. |
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Tim: |
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They have an article here. So it' the ammount of death's in the desert from |
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try to cross the desert. Its inhospitable. You can't carry enough water. We see |
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more people in the summertime that we rescue. That's crazy. |
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Paige |
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Alright, so here's the drop. Oh, ok. It looks that it's been slashed. I could |
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have been Border Patrol. It could have been hunters. We don't always know. |
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We do have footage of Border Patrol kicking over water gallons. I guess |
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there's no way to prove it either way but the agent that I just talked to said |
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that he knew there was a drop here, so that kind of leads me to believe that |
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they know it's here and might be cutting it because that fits in with their |
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strategy of just making it really difficult people to cross. The strategy of |
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prevention to deterrence. Basically they want to make crossing as difficult |
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and hard as possible to deter people from doing it. |
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But really this is just resulted in suffering and death on the border and just |
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putting people in a really really vulnerable situation. When they catch |
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people they now will put them through Operation Streamline and give them |
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criminal charges and jail time as a consequence for crossing, so they've |
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created the other system to just make it even worse to cross and it makes |
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getting caught more of an issue. Before you might just get deported back |
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but now if you’re crossing and you get lost, to turn yourself in might mean |
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spending six months in a jail or six months in a prison. So the consequences |
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are just higher and it's harder to do, because there's more enforcement and |
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it's just really set up to make people suffer. |
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Tim Foley patroling the border |
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42:17 |
Tim Foley sitting under a tree |
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Tim:
When I see the humanitarians out on the trails, i'll try to educate them, because these are people that are coming from different parts of the country believing the narrative that the organization is putting out. You're going to be helping people you know, survive, coming through the desert. When you run in and talk to some of these people sometimes your head just wants to explode from the mentality of the thought preocess.
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There's a water drop up here probably another half mile which is amazing because that's a long way for them to carry that much water. It's from the truck probably almost a mile in and it gets steeper than this to get to it and that's the farthest I've ever seen them carry water. I wouldn't mind going up there but I'm sure there's water sitting there. They usually have water there, Gatorade there, food. And so that's another nice thing. You know we're out hiking enjoying the beautiful day and will run into one of their water drops and sit down and they have individually wrapped meals. You know with cereal bars bars in it and yogurt or stuff like that and caned beans and we sit down have a lunch.
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Desert impressions |
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43:50 |
Interview Gary Thrasher |
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Ranchers really get irrated when somebody calls it a no man's land. They |
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believe that their ranch is their ranch and they don't believe that the federal |
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government is taking responsibility for their security like they would for |
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anywhere else in the country. They live long ways away a lot of times from |
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everybody else, so response time for the sheriff, for the Border Patrol, or |
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even the military is a problem. Our ex sheriff, the one who was killed not too |
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long ago, he told Ranchers that you're going to have to protect yourself. Do |
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not count on the sheriff. I can't get there in an hour and if you are in trouble |
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and it's going to take me an hour to get there or half an hour to get there, |
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you've got to be able to take care of yourself. |
44:36 |
Border town impressions |
Atmo |
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45:02 |
Walking through a typical western city with Steve |
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Arizona is atypical as far as most of the states are concerned. We have the |
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Open Carry Law, where you can carry a firearm open anywhere in the state |
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of Arizona. |
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How are you doing? |
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Woman: |
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Good, how are you? |
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Steve: |
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Do I get a hug? |
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Woman: |
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Yes you do. I always have hugs for you |
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Steve: |
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Thank you baby |
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Woman: |
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Your welcome |
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Steve: |
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Most people won't do it in highly populated areas like Phoenix or Tucson |
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but here in the rural areas like in Tombstone basically the only people don't |
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carry a gun that live here are kids in high school. There was a lot of different |
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gun manufacturers but this became one of the most popular firearms of its |
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time, the Colt Single Action Army. And this is what I carry. The only thing I |
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shoot with it now is blanks. When I get into a gunfight occasionally and it's |
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just fun, it's fun. |
46:09 |
Touristic cowboy puppets |
Speaker: |
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The Earp's enter the corral, Doc Holiday joined them. The sheriff tried to |
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stop them claiming he would disarm the cowboys, but they walked on into |
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this vacant lot, where you see them standing now. Suddenly Wyatt cries out: |
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You Cowboys have been looking for a fight. Now you can have it. Boy's, |
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drop your hands, I want your guns. Don't shoot me I don't want to fight. I |
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haven't got anything. I've come to disarm you. This fight has convinced. |
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Either fight or get away. |
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46:48 |
Cowboy show in front of audience |
Cowboy: |
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Alright, let's try it out as loud as you can. Let's hear for the goog guys. |
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(Applause) |
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Bad guys |
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(Applause) |
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Good guys |
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(Applause) |
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Good looking guy |
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(Applause) |
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That was weird, Mr. |
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Are you folks ready for a gun fight? |
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(Applause) |
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I said are you folks ready for a killing? |
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We start in 45 minutes |
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47:21 |
Interview four touristic cowboys |
Cowboy 1: |
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You have to understand that the white man was an invader in their territory |
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out here, It used to be nothing but the indians, Apaches especially down |
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here and of course of mexicans, because southern Arizona once was part of |
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Mexico. Cowboys, Indians, the Mexicans, they ran back and forth across the |
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border pretty much all the time. I mean there were organized military on |
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Mexican side but for the most part the borders really didn't exist that much. |
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Cowboy 2: |
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Which also was a large part of the problem with the Cowboys gang is that |
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they would go across the border steal cattle and sell them and vice versa. |
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48:04 |
Sandbuggy’s driving through desert dunes in |
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front of the border fence |
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50:00 |
John Ladd driving his pickup truck |
John: |
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The danger element is that the people running the drugs are all cartel and |
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they're not going to give up and that's where the danger for ranchers is and |
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you know we have to be smart. The mayority of the ranchers aren't going |
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out catching drug runners and we don't want to get killed. So we're smart |
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enough to either turn our.. I don't turn my head I call Border Patrol. |
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We advocated for the last 10 years that Border Patrol should hire veterans |
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Because they're trained and it wouldn’t be that hard to convert a soldier to a |
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Border Patrol. But they they won't do it. And you know Border Patrol are |
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federal agents but they're civilians Right there that's a problem In order to |
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control the border you have to have a military philosophy. And Border Patrol |
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doesn't have that |
50:38 |
Tim Foley and John Spartan at their car during |
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John Spartan:
I'm scanning for radio traffic. Trying to find where they're talking, so we can listen in.
I took an oath when i first joined the military. And that oath doesn't expire. So when my military service ended I did a lot of other public service jobs, things like that, but this is a huge, huge problem. And being our government having things the way they are these guys can't effectively do their job beyond a certain point. And you know I've got some decent knowledge. I've got some decent training. Why not come out here and give them a hand. The right way. Definitely Afghanistan looks a lot like this. Similar climate, windy, hot, desolate. It's very similar, we get a lot of veterans that come in help us out and they all say the same thing.
52:32 |
Interview Tim Foley |
About a year ago I was driving the road then there was a lady standing on |
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the road. She was a pretty girl, she was 19 years old, but she had bruising all |
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across her face or she had a black eye, dried blood coming out of her nose, |
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broken lips from being punched and I asked her and she said she told the |
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story of making it six months to the fence and the night before she came |
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across with some other people and in the middle of the night 23 guys in her |
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group gang raped her. |
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And when she fought back they beat her and raped her anyway and took |
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all her identification and her money and left her. And she just said, she |
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wanted to go home. I said ok, put her in my truck and drove her to the |
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Border Patrol and she told them the story. So now once if we're out of the |
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mountains and we see groups of people sitting on the mountain with our |
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binoculars and we see big group of males and only one or two females, we |
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call the Border Patrol and say, hey, get somebody out there quick. Before |
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nightfall. |
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54:10 |
Border Patrol car driving along the Fence |
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54:43 |
Border Security Expo impressions |
Atmo |
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55:00 |
Panel speaker at expo |
And that's probably job one. Counterterrorism, right we don't want those |
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people around us. How do you do that? What technology? Well we've got |
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some ideas In the end of the day I'm gonna bring that update. But you' got |
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any broad ideas? Because I don't know what the requirement is what we |
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want to stop bad people. We want to stop stop bad things. We dont't like |
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weapons of mass destruction. We don't want biological weapons. That's a |
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requirement, to stop bad things. And do you have ideas on how we might |
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do that? What the problem is? See, as Mr. Ragsdale was saying this morning |
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I gotta turn that into: What bad things? What are the steps, right? And when |
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I do that, we lose an opportunity for innovation. |
55:51 |
Border Security Expo impressions |
Atmo |
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56:15 |
Border security salesman |
And this here is the picture of our first tower that went up its in the Tucson |
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area on the border down to Mexico. And basically what you see here is a tall |
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tower, on top you'll see we have a radar we have a day camera and a |
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thermal night camera. So that the agents at a command center located miles |
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away can see if anybody's crossing the border. And the beauty of this is it |
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can do it in all weather. If you just had radar and there was cloud condition |
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we couldn't see through the radar. With all three we fuse it into one |
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common picture and why we think we were the best product for here is the |
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ability to fuse it all into one common operating picture, called the COP. That |
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gives the law enforcement people the ability to see what's going along the |
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border regardless of the time of day or whatever. |
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57:07 |
Paige |
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interview at her car, Border Patrol Agent |
I think the issue of categorizing people into good and bad people can be |
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really problematic, because you know somebody who is carrying drugs |
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across the border might be doing that just to pay to get across. If you don't |
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have any money that's an easy way that somebody can pay for their trip, |
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they can carry drugs across. I think also depending on where you were born. |
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If I were born in Sonora that might be the only job opportunity I have. The |
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only way that I can make money might be to work as a guide leading people |
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through the desert or carrying drugs through the desert. That might be the |
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only opportunity. So I don't think that people wake up one day and decide |
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they want to do this bad thing. It's just a way that people are able to make a |
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living. |
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Agent: |
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Hi, So it's quiet back there? |
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Paige: |
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We found some slashed gallons. |
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Agent: |
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Slashed gallons? Like somebody cut it with a knife? |
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Paige: |
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Yeah like somebody cut them with a knife. |
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Agent: |
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What do you guys do about that? |
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Paige: |
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Replace them and hope that somebody who needs supplies finds them. |
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Agent: |
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What you guys doing with all the old water bottles? |
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Paige: |
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What do you mean? |
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Agent: |
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What do you do with the stuff that has been used? |
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Paige: |
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We just take them back. |
Agent:
A lot of the job has changed now. Before we used to work for the Department of Justice. One of our key points was to stop the flow of illegal immigrants and drug smuggler and human smugglers. But there's a lot of that going on. Sometimes you find families out there. You got to feel sorry for them. They put their life in the trust of smugglers. They just don't realize how easy it is to get a passport and come through. Like we do, you know. We get a passport and come across the legal way. They don't know how to do that and they'd rather pay money for a smuggler to come across. It's one of those things look we have to educate more people from mexico on how to actually immigrate. That might be a good thing. And then you got humanitarians like this young lady here. They bring water and food and give them false hope. Like, OK, there might be water or food. That's just one aspect. It's a really complicated issue. But our job now has changed from that to that of stopping the flow of terrorists and terrorist weapons. That's the main focus. You guys take care.
1:00:20 |
Boder Patrol towers |
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1:00:51 |
Orphelia Rivas and NGO group returning to their |
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cars |
The terrorists can't walk around? |
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Orphelia: |
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They don't know how to climb mountains? |
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I guess not. |
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The terrorists came with passports. And they let them get on the plane. |
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Orphelia: |
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That's why i asked them you know, this towers that they're going to put up. I |
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asked them, you're protecting the american way of life in the U.S. - Mexican |
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border |
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said: Well there's gonna be five in Douglas. Five in Arivaca and 15 on the |
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Tohono O'odham Nation. And I said so nowhere else? Nowhere else. |
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1:01:57 |
Interview Orphelia Rivas |
They brought in the National Guard and they started working. Putting up the |
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pillars. Every month from that point on and elder passed away. For the |
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whole entire year we lost more than 12 elders that passed away that are so |
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vital to not only our ceremonies but our traditional council, that is on both |
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sides of the border called the Traditional O'Odham Leaders. When those |
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people passed away, everybody didn't understand. But I feel that they were |
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just heartbroken at what happened to the land and it really hurted |
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everybody. |
1:02:36 |
Impressions of border town divided by border |
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fence |
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1:03:44 |
Interview Antonia Gallegos |
Antonia: |
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Impressions of personal belongings of migrants |
We had already seen people crossing.We didn't have as much surveillance |
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left behind |
back then. People came across more freely and stopped in and ask for |
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Impressions of „Las Madres Project“ |
food, but I wasn’t really aware of all the deaths that were going on around, |
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because it wasn't really publicized very much. And then I met Valerie. |
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An artist that moved into the area. And she had some big dogs and she |
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would go out walking with her dogs and while she was out there she started |
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finding all these artifacts we call them. These backpacks filled with personal |
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items. Everything you know, |
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pictures and letters. Very personal stuff. So we started picking them up and |
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it was actually her idea to do a large memorial. To what was happening to |
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the people that we're just falling by the wayside and nobody was really |
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paying attention to them. We decided to focus on the mothers that are left |
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behind to really emphasize the sadness of families being torn apart. So we |
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came up with the „Las Madres" project. And we were going to do a lot of |
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figures. |
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We thought we were going to really be able to handle one figure for every |
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ten people that had died. Then we realized how many had died so we |
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decided to do one figure for every hundred. Turns out it was way more than |
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that so we did one figure for every thousand. We ended up with three at |
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that point it was over 3,000 people that had died at that point in 2003. So |
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we decided that if we used the clothing to make the paper it would have the |
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DNA of the crossers in them, because they're running, they're scared, |
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they're tired, they're thirsty and all this being poured out into their clothing. |
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So we said wow, this way the mothers will be made out of the same essence |
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as the people that they're representing. |
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1:06:12 |
Impression of border fence |
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1:06:49 |
Interview Gary Thrasher |
Probably about 300 a year die in Arizona that are people that are crossing |
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the border illegally for one reason or another that are just found there. |
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But there's almost no investigation about what was the cause of death |
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almost none. If it was happening anywhere else in the U.S., probably |
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anywhere else in the world that a body was found in your backyard or out |
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the woods someplace, there would be a crime scene investigation, a huge |
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people looking all over like you see on television. But not here. It's just pick |
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them up put them in a bag take them to the coroner, let it go. |
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1:07:16 Tim Foley with his Dog at home showing his memorial wall
Tim:
Must be hungry. Good job today. Enjoy your nap.
2002, so he was the first one. These two, Brian Terry was in 2010 and Nichols Ivie was in 2012. So there's more that's been killed but these guys were killed by gunfire.
There's other ones who have been run over. All different other types of death. Being stoned with boulders from the fence or up on the mountain. But these are the ones who were killed by gunfire. There's dozens upon dozens that have been killed down here in the past ten years. But the public doesn't know. Because they don't tell them. And so we have an empty one left open. It's gonna happen again. The sad thing is, we probably will need more than just one. It's a reminder to us why we're here and why we do this.
1:09:07 |
Border Security Expo heroes memorial |
Scottish music |
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1:10:27 |
Desert impressions by night |
Atmo |
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1:10:54 |
Tim Foley at the roof of his house looking |
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through his binoculars |
I'm doing it for everybody. Until I feel it's safe. So probably the rest of my |
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life. |
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1:11:24 |
Border fence impression |
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1:11:38 |
Desert impression with credits |
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