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FOREIGN
CORRESPONDENT
2017
Peru
– It Doesn’t Happen To People Like Me
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©2017
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Précis |
Thousands of young travelers are flocking to the
Amazon to chase the highs of the ayahuasca plant. Tragically, some never
return. Hamish Macdonald investigates. |
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Matthew Dawson-Clarke made no secret of it. The
young Kiwi had told his mum and dad that he was off to Peru to try ayahuasca,
a traditional hallucinogen that’s made the adventure travelers’ bucket list. |
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Then, out of the blue, came the phone call. It
was Father’s Day, but it wasn’t Matthew ringing home. It was a young woman he
had met in Peru. She was ringing to offer her condolences. |
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“My world stopped that day.” – Matthew’s mother Lyndie |
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At that moment Matthew’s parents were told that
their 24-year-old son had died three days earlier at an ayahuasca retreat in
the Peruvian jungle, in highly questionable circumstances. |
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“This is my world, you know? It doesn’t happen
to people like me, and it doesn’t happen to my son.” – Lyndie |
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Matthew was among the tens of thousands of
tourists who visit the Amazon every year to try ayahuasca, which is legal in
Peru. Many do have a positive experience and some rave about its supposed
healing and spiritual properties. But in the 18 months since Matthew’s death,
another five people have died there. |
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Hamish Macdonald joins Foreign Correspondent
for its 2017 season with an expose of the Amazon’s booming ayahuasca
industry, told through the prism of Matthew Dawson-Clarke’s death. He reveals
an industry that rakes in money for its mostly western operators, but falls
badly short in regulation or accountability. |
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Macdonald and his team track down the shaman who
prepared the brew of “cleansing” tobacco tea that Matt consumed before he
died… |
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“I think that it was his destiny.” – the shaman |
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… the tour operator who failed to notify Matt’s parents... |
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“People die sometimes. Shit happens. It’s
always gonna happen.” – tour
operator |
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…and the fellow tourist who tried to save him
when no one else would, and lives with guilt for having failed. |
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“He’s just a 24-year-old kid for God’s sake. He
went there to better himself, to become a better person, a better human
being, and now he’s dead. I think about Matt every day. If I could have done
just a little bit more…” –
“Richard”, from Texas |
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Aerial boat on river |
Music |
00:00 |
Super: |
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00:08 |
Macdonald on boat on
river |
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00:22 |
Super: |
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00:25 |
Aerial Iquitos GVs |
HAMISH MACDONALD: Iquitos is on the banks of the Amazon. It was once
famous for exporting rubber to Europe. These days, it’s a mecca for anyone
trying to get their hands on a new “it” drug, a natural high known as ayahuasca.
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00:31 |
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Here, they call it “the medicine” and each year tens of thousands are
coming to try it, many of those are Australian. Some claim it can cure
everything from cancer to heroin addiction – but not all ayahuasca
experiences end well. I want to investigate the death of one young man. |
00:55 |
Macdonald to camera on
Iquitos street |
“This is where Matt Dawson-Clarke’s journey into Amazon began and it’s
where it ended. And that’s why we’ve come here, to try and get some answers
about how he died and why”. |
01:17 |
Sydney GV. Dawson-Clarke home exterior TITLE: “It Doesn’t Happen to
People Like Me” |
Music |
01:40 |
Dawson-Clarke home
interior. Phone ringing |
LYNDIE DAWSON-CLARKE: “It was a Sunday afternoon. |
01:48 |
Lyndie interview |
The phone was ringing and usually I’ll ignore it, but for some reason
I thought, oh I’ve got to get that call”. |
01:52 |
Reconstruction of
Lyndie answering phone. Super: Reconstruction |
LYNDIE: “Hello, it’s Lyndie here”. |
01:58 |
Lyndie interview |
LYNDIE DAWSON-CLARKE: “And then I got this really heavy accent that
came through saying, is that… is that Matthew’s mum? And I can remember
thinking what, who’s this? |
02:02 |
Reconstruction. Lyndie
on phone |
LYNDIE: “I’m sorry, who are you?” |
02:18 |
Lyndie interview |
LYNDIE DAWSON-CLARKE: “And she said to me, I was… I’m so sorry for
your loss. At that point my heart just stopped, and I think I started
screaming at her and I just said, ‘What are you talking about?’ And she said,
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02:22 |
Photo. Matthew on boat |
‘I was on a retreat with your son. |
02:37 |
Lyndie interview |
Matthew died. He died three days ago’. |
02:40 |
Reconstruction. Lyndie
to front door crying |
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02:43 |
Lyndie interview.
Super: |
My world stopped that day. So now I had |
02:53 |
Home footage. Matt on
boat |
a son apparently dead. I didn’t know where he was. |
02:59 |
Lyndie interview |
And this is my world, you know? It doesn’t happen to people like me
and it doesn’t happen to my son”. |
03:06 |
Photo. Lyndie with
Matt in London |
HAMISH MACDONALD: Like so many young people from this part of the
world, Matt was living and working in London. |
03:20 |
Home video. Matt
snorkelling |
From there he got work on a super yacht, taking clients through the
waters of the Mediterranean, all the way to the Caribbean. STUART CLARKE: “Matt had a lot of promise and the saddest part of it
all, apart from losing our boy, is that the |
03:27 |
Stuart interview.
Super: |
opportunity of seeing what he was going to become we’re not going to
have”. |
03:46 |
Matt on boat |
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03:53 |
Matt’s face to camera |
HAMISH MACDONALD: On the 6th of September 2015, Matthew
Dawson-Clarke’s family at home in Auckland |
04:06 |
Auckland suburban street |
desperately start searching for information. They reach the tour
operator in Peru, Andy Metcalfe, and record the call. |
04:15 |
GFX on screen text: -
tell
me where Matt is -
in
the Iquitos morgue |
STUART CLARKE: “I want somebody to tell me where Matt is”. ANDY METCALFE: “He’s currently in the morgue in Iquitos”. STUART CLARKE: “In where?” ANDY METCALFE: “In the Iquitos morgue”. |
04:24 |
Still. Matt |
STUART CLARKE: “To have to say goodbye to one of your kids… |
04:33 |
Stuart interview |
all you know is you want as much of them back as you can get”. |
04:37 |
Auckland street |
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04:39 |
GFX on screen text: -
rely
on you track things down right thing -
our
son |
[on phone to Andy] “Can I rely on you to help us to track things down
so that we can do the right thing for our son?” LYNDIE DAWSON-CLARKE: “This is our son!” ANDY METCALFE: “Of course, of course”. |
04:43 |
GFX on screen text: -
please
I beg of you help us find our son |
LYNDIE DAWSON-CLARKE: “Please,
I beg of you. If you have anyone who can help us there find our son.” |
04:51 |
View of houses |
HAMISH MACDONALD: It turns out Andy Metcalfe had told other members of
the retreat he’d broken the news to Matt’s family. |
04:59 |
Stuart interview |
STUART CLARKE: “He told them that he had told the parents what had
happened. So he lied”. HAMISH MACDONALD: “Had he?” STUART CLARKE: “He never told us at all. He’s acknowledged that
since”. |
05:07 |
Auckland suburbs |
Music |
05:16 |
Macdonald into boat on
river with Freddie Findlay |
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05:29 |
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HAMISH MACDONALD: Iquitos holds a lot of the answers, not just about
Matt’s death but also about why so many people are being drawn to ayahuasca.
This ancient custom, once confined to the Amazon, has spread like wildfire on
the internet. It’s now even available in countries like Australia and
America. |
05:37 |
Findlay and Macdonald
in boat |
FREDDIE FINDLAY: “Now we’re going just down the Itaya River and we’re
just taking a short ride down here to Mamcuyna… the land and then because
it’s flooded, we’ll go in through the camo camo orchard”. HAMISH MACDONALD: Freddie Findlay is a British ex-pat who lives here. |
06:01 |
River GVs |
From a successful child actor in London, to a drug addict living on
the streets of Peru’s capital Lima, he’s now an apprentice Shaman, a
traditional healer. Tonight, Freddie’s agreed to host us for an ayahuasca
ceremony. |
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06:32 |
Getting out of boat |
FREDDIE FINDLAY: [getting out of boat] “Be careful getting off here
because the floor is very slippery. |
06:37 |
Findlay and Macdonald
into Mamcuyna |
This is Mamcuyna! |
06:47 |
Findlay prepares ayahuasca |
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Best way to start the day!” HAMISH MACDONALD: Ayahuasca only grows in the Amazon jungle and when
brewed with other plants, it’s one of the most powerful hallucinogens on
earth. It’s illegal in most western countries, but not here in Peru and each
retreat has its own recipe. |
07:14 |
Findlay with ayahuasca.
Super: |
FREDDIE FINDLAY: “If you just drunk this by itself you would just
purge. You know you would just vomit and go to the bathroom, but the
combination of ayahuasca and the chacruna and the other two things is what
makes our medicine. |
07:30 |
Findlay interview |
I guess I have a history of drug abuse and from an early age, you
know, from when I was 13 or 14 onwards, you know crack, heroin – I also did a
lot of, you know, of ecstasy and acid and things like that. But the harder
drugs, I had problems with them, you know, from having quite a good career
and earning some good money, having a lot of things, I lost everything”. |
07:54 |
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HAMISH MACDONALD: “What proportion of the people do you think coming here
are trying to deal with an addiction of some form?” FREDDIE FINDLAY: “A lot of them. |
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Some people have, you know, an addiction to marijuana, other people
are doing heroin and other people that are doing coke, but you know whatever
it is, there’s a lot of them coming”. |
08:35 |
Ayahuasca brew on fire |
HAMISH MACDONALD: “And how effective do you think it is as a mechanism
for dealing with addiction?” FREDDIE FINDLAY: “I think it’s very effective |
08:47 |
Findlay interview |
and I would say that I’m living proof of it you know because I was a
mess, a big mess”. |
08:53 |
Ayahuasca brew on fire |
HAMISH MACDONALD: “How safe is it to come here and try this?” FREDDIE FINDLAY: “It’s very safe. |
09:01 |
Findlay interview |
Again, as long as you’re with the right person, you know, the right
people”. |
09:12 |
Guys sitting around at
retreat |
HAMISH MACDONALD: People come here to drink ayahuasca for all sorts of
reasons. There are the sick and vulnerable, people with addictions, and with
post-traumatic stress. But there’s also the younger crowd, a lot just come
for the adventure. |
09:17 |
Ayahuasca brew on fire |
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09:41 |
Macdonald to camera
outside hut Enters hut |
HAMISH MACDONALD: “Well the afternoon light is disappearing pretty
quickly and inside they’re preparing for their ayahuasca ceremony. We are
allowed to watch, but the whole thing is going to happen in darkness”. |
09:51 |
Ayahuasca ceremony |
FREDDIE FINDLAY: “What we’re going to do now yeah is prepare the
medicine. … We’re going to sing to the medicine”. |
10:08 |
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HAMISH MACDONALD: This ceremony will continue for the next five or six
hours, as will the singing and the purging. |
10:31 |
Ceremony continues |
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10:40 |
Texas GVs |
Music |
12:01 |
Richard putting on
motorcycle gloves and helmet |
RICHARD: “I think about Matt every day, even though I don’t let myself
think about it very long”. HAMISH MACDONALD: After Matthew Dawson-Clarke’s death, his parents
began contacting the other guests from the retreat to find out what happened.
They reached Richard, from Texas. |
12:14 |
Richard rides off on
bike |
RICHARD: “There’s not one day that has gone by that I haven’t thought
about him or his family and the pain that they must have been going through
and are going through right now”. |
12:37 |
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Music |
12:45 |
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HAMISH MACDONALD: Talking about his ayahuasca journey could cost
Richard his job, so we’ve agreed to keep his identity and his real name
secret. |
12:50 |
Richard on motorbike |
Music |
12:58 |
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HAMISH MACDONALD: Like many
others, he hoped the drug would relieve his PTSD brought on by working as a
paramedic with the fire department. Instead, it only made things worse. |
13:03 |
Richard interview |
RICHARD: “I feel more lost now than I was when I started, and the
shameful thing is what I was on my way, you know, I was almost there”. |
13:18 |
River aerial |
Music |
13:28 |
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HAMISH MACDONALD: Here’s what we understand happened to Matt on the
3rd of September 2015. |
13:34 |
Reconstruction of ayahuasca ceremony and Matt’s situation. Super: |
It begins the morning after a wild night of dancing around the fire.
In preparation for another ayahuasca ceremony, Matthew drinks a powerful brew
of tobacco tea, part of the cleansing ritual. Within 15 minutes he feels
unwell. He says he thinks he’s been poisoned. Matt is attended by the shaman
who prepared the tea, Don Lucho, and a helper, Carolina. |
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At one point during the day they cycle Matt’s legs as if to maintain
circulation. RICHARD: “My intuition as a medic, as someone who’s been doing this
job for a while, |
14:12 |
Richard interview |
was something wasn’t right with Matt”. |
14:23 |
Reconstruction of
Matt’s collapse |
HAMISH MACDONALD: Richard the paramedic offers help but is turned away
at the door by Carolina. It’s not until the very end of the day at 5 pm, when
Matt goes into cardiac arrest that Richard is finally enlisted to help. |
14:26 |
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RICHARD: “I realised that I was the only person there that was
medically trained. |
14:48 |
Richard interview |
No one had any first aid training or CPR training – at all”. |
14:51 |
Reconstruction of CPR
and transport of Matt to hospital |
HAMISH MACDONALD: A frantic effort begins - CPR, a vehicle to get Matt
to hospital. Deep in the Amazon it is a dangerous and difficult journey. The
vehicle gets bogged, it even tips over. Eventually making it down the river,
just before midnight, Matthew Dawson-Clarke’s body is released to the morgue.
Richard is still deeply troubled by the events of that week. |
14:55 |
Richard interview |
RICHARD: “I mean he’s just a 24 year old kid for God’s sake, you know?
He shouldn’t be… he shouldn’t be dead. He went there to go better himself, to
become a better person, a better human being. And I’m sorry that I couldn’t …
[upset]. I tried you know? Sorry”. |
15:28 |
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HAMISH MACDONALD: “Are you okay?” RICHARD: “Yeah. I tried so hard. I did everything in my power to save their
son and, you know, I’m sorry”. |
15:45 |
Aerial. Macdonald in
boat on river |
Music |
16:00 |
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HAMISH MACDONALD: The striking thing about Matt’s death is that no one
has ever been held accountable. In the year and a half since, another five
people have died in this region in connection with ayahuasca retreats. |
16:07 |
Macdonald walking down
track |
The investigation into Matt’s death was closed last year and the
shaman, Don Lucho is still operating Kapitari, the retreat where Matt died -
and still offering that same tobacco tea. That’s where I’m heading now. “It’s fair to say this place is
remote. |
16:19 |
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It’s taken us two boat journeys to get here, a good 30-40 minutes
walking deeper into the jungle. There is no phone reception or patchy
reception and no electricity. If something goes wrong out here, you’re a long
way from help”. |
16:41 |
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Finding Don Lucho may help answer some of the many questions about
Matt’s death. |
17:05 |
Macdonald walking down
track with translator to Kapitari |
“There’s Kapitari”. |
17:14 |
Man greets Hamish |
HAMISH MACDONALD: “Hi, I’m Hamish. I’m from the ABC Australia. We’re
hoping to speak with Don Lucho if that’s possible. We have some questions. PERSON FROM RETREAT: “Don Lucho is not here. He went to Iquitos. Where
are you?” |
17:28 |
Man on phone to Don
Lucho |
HAMISH MACDONALD: It turns out the man we have come here to find has
gone to town for the day. MAN FROM RETREAT: [on phone to Don Lucho] “Do me a favour. We have
some people here from Australia”. |
17:42 |
Macdonald walks from
river and greets Don Lucho |
HAMISH MACDONALD: So we race back to the port, to find Don Lucho is
waiting. “We just have a few questions about the death of Matthew
Dawson-Clarke. We are looking into his case. I’d like to understand why you
didn’t take him to hospital that day”. |
17:52 |
Don Lucho |
DON LUCHO: “We work with the translators. The translator didn’t
communicate with me. That’s why there was a delay. We did try to take him to
the city, but there was a strike. |
18:11 |
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HAMISH MACDONALD: “But if he took the tobacco tea very early in the
day and immediately he said that he thought he’d been poisoned and it wasn’t
until 5 pm that you asked others for help?” DON LUCHO: “Well, he was in a trance. One moment he felt well, and
said he was okay. The next moment he felt bad, and it was like that, back and
forth. It wasn’t continuous. He was in a trance, saying “Okay… I’m okay”.” |
18:28 |
Don Lucho continues |
HAMISH MACDONALD: “And have you got anything you want to say to
Matthew Dawson-Clarke’s parents?” DON LUCHO: “From my point of view, I believe it was his destiny. Look,
you might die from a car accident… from a bullet… I think it was his fate.
I’ve worked with tobacco for 30 years and I’ve never had anything like this
happen”. |
18:57 |
Don Lucho walks away |
HAMISH MACDONALD: Don Lucho might say there’s no issue with tobacco
teas, but in the very same year that Matt died, a young Canadian woman died
after drinking one, too. |
19:19 |
Don Lucho on phone |
And while Don Lucho says Matt’s death is not his fault, remember the
tour operator Andy Metcalfe from the phone calls? He’s never been held
accountable either. |
19:30 |
Macdonald approaches Metcalfe |
“I just want to know if we
might be able to talk to you for the story”. After initially agreeing to see us one day… “It would be better to talk to you and get your version of things”. ANDY METCALFE: “I will talk to you. I’d rather not be on camera
though”. |
19:42 |
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HAMISH MACDONALD: When it comes to meeting the next day, Andy is
giving us the slip. He’s about to disappear into the jungle, where he now
owns his own retreat and he’s texted saying he’s too busy. |
16:56 |
Macdonald walks to
Karma café |
On a tip off, we learn that’s not quite true. Andy is in fact just
down the road having lunch at the Karma Café. |
20:08 |
Macdonald approaches Metcalfe
in café. |
“Sorry I heard you were down here so I thought I’d come and say hi”. It’s our last chance to get some answers about his responsibility to
his clients. Guys like Andy make a lot of the money in this largely unregulated
industry, often more than the local shaman do. |
20:16 |
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A lot of people are still trusting Andy Metcalfe with their lives in
these remote jungle retreats. So we decide to secretly record his response. ANDY METCALFE: “I don’t accept blame for what happened. You know, we
had well over a thousand people on retreats at Kapitari before Matt came
along and no incidents whatsoever, you know, so maybe we were complacent, I
don’t know”. |
20:37 |
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HAMISH MACDONALD: “But what about things like first aid and training
and plans for if things go wrong?” ANDY METCALFE: “I guess it wasn’t really something that we imagined
would ever happen. I mean, it’s not very easy to get first aid training in
Peru, Iquitos”. |
20:58 |
Macdonald and Metcalfe
continue |
HAMISH MACDONALD: “I mean I guess when you… when you accept the money
you take some responsibility, right?” ANDY METCALFE: “Sure, I suppose so. As far as I’m concerned the shaman
is ultimately responsible, the shaman gives the medicine. I’m not Kapitari,
yes I did accept the money, but I in a kind of way work as a middleman or
whatever. So you could argue that there is some responsibility there. |
21:13 |
Macdonald and Metcalfe
continue |
Things were handled very badly in the aftermath as well, you know, and
I certainly accept some responsibility for that. The big story which
everybody’s ignoring is how many people die from pharmaceutical drugs every
year – even ones that were properly prescribed. Shit happens. It’s always
gonna happen, you know?” |
21:38 |
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HAMISH MACDONALD: Shit happens? Well that’s not how Matt’s family sees
this. |
21:54 |
Aerial over
jungle/Dissolve to stills of Matt |
Music |
22:00 |
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HAMISH MACDONALD: The reality
is that Matt Dawson-Clarke paid 650 US dollars to go to a retreat – Kapitari
- that we’ve learned was and still is operating illegally. And when things
went wrong for Matt, it was another tourist, Richard from Texas who had to
try and save him. “What sort of stands out to me is that |
22:05 |
Richard interview |
it wasn’t the staff that sort of initiated taking Matt to hospital”. |
22:24 |
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RICHARD: “I was the one that had to take charge of this whole situation.
There was no help. Don Lucho didn’t come. He didn’t come, you know, with us
along the way to the, to the boat or, you know, he wasn’t there. I did feel,
I did feel like we…” HAMISH MACDONALD: “Did he take responsibility for Matt?” RICHARD: “I’ve never, I’ve never heard him take responsibility”. |
22:29 |
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HAMISH MACDONALD: “Andy saying that he’d told the parents, was he
telling the truth?” |
22:48 |
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RICHARD: “I would say not”. |
22:52 |
Police outside
courthouse |
HAMISH MACDONALD: So will anyone ever be forced to take responsibility
for this death? |
23:00 |
Macdonald to camera
outside courthouse |
“Since we’ve been working on
this story there’s been a huge development. Matt Dawson-Clarke’s family
lodged a formal complaint with the Peruvian authorities and that’s now led
them to re-open the investigation”. |
23:05 |
Don Lucho entering
courthouse |
As a result, Don Lucho is now inside this building making a pointed
claim to the prosecutor that Matthew Dawson-Clarke may have been using other
drugs just before coming to the retreat. |
23:18 |
Macdonald and translator
greet Don Lucho |
Now Matt did tell others on the retreat that like many young people,
he’d used some drugs in the past, but the claim made by Don Lucho is not
supported by any actual evidence. |
23:31 |
Don Lucho interview |
DON LUCHO: “It’s possible that he had taken drugs and they reacted
badly with the plant. I’ve been working with the plant for more than 20
years. I’m still working with it, and have never had any problems. People
have to tell me what they’re taking – what medicine or drugs they’re taking –
so I can understand them. Because if they don’t tell me, look what happened”.
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23:44 |
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HAMISH MACDONALD: “Andy Metcalfe says that he takes no blame for what
happened, that he was just a middleman”. |
24:08 |
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DON LUCHO: “Now he says that. Before, he was a partner! He was taking
more money than me, and I’m the one doing the work. But who’s taking
responsibility? Andy? No, me! If it kills, I’m the one dying. If someone has
to go to prison, I’m the one jailed. That’s what bothers me. During tough
times he just steps aside. Problems have to be fought from beginning to end.
That’s how I like it”. |
24:13 |
Don Lucho leaves |
HAMISH MACDONALD: Don Lucho still hasn’t been charged and convictions
for ayahuasca related deaths are very rare. |
24:40 |
Macdonald and Stuart
Clarke looking at autopsy reports |
Matthew Dawson-Clarke’s family has now spent a year and a half
fighting for justice and fighting for answers. STUART CLARKE: “They’re referring to the comment about stimulant drugs
such as cocaine and methamphetamine, no information regarding this in the
case. Neither of these drugs were detected by the post mortem or tox”. |
24:51 |
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HAMISH MACDONALD: The post mortem from Peru blames pneumonia leading
to cardiac arrest for Matt’s death, but in New Zealand, so far a coronial
inquest remains inconclusive. And an autopsy report points to possible
nicotine poisoning. |
25:14 |
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STUART CLARKE: “Possible nicotine toxicity which fits exactly with
what we believe to be the occasion that led to him being given the tobacco
tea”. |
25:28 |
Video footage of Matt |
HAMISH MACDONALD: On the accusation about Matt using drugs before he
went to Kapitari, his family and the available evidence are clear. |
25:36 |
Photo. Matt on boat |
STUART CLARKE: “Well Mathew wasn’t a drinker. He certainly wasn’t a
methamphetamine addict. Our belief is pretty simple, |
25:48 |
Stuart interview.
Super: |
as the rumours that were proliferating out of Peru really just were to
give themselves, they thought, some breathing space I believe, because at the
end of the day they’re too easily disproved”. |
25:53 |
Video footage of Matt |
There’s a part of you that going to be forever empty. |
26:08 |
Stuart interview |
It can’t be undone, and you go through regular periods where you just
actually, you just want to go and be with him. And that’s often at the
expense of those that are still with us while you’re alive, because it’s very
easy just to go I don’t want to be here anymore”. |
26:14 |
Lyndie with Macdonald
at home, with Matt’s things. |
HAMISH MACDONALD: Lyndie Dawson-Clarke even had to fight just to get
Matt’s belongings back home from Peru. |
26:34 |
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LYNDIE DAWSON-CLARKE: “This is my place of remembrance”. HAMISH MACDONALD: “And what is it about the physical thigs do you
think?” LYNDIE DAWSON-CLARKE: “It reminds me, I mean every day when I go
walking in the morning as I’m coming down the driveway, I yell out to the
universe, |
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‘I have a son and his name is
Matthew James Dawson-Clarke’ because people forget and their lives move on.
But for me, my life stopped that day and I have to remember that I have a
son. These physical things remind me that he was my boy, and he lived here and
he still does live here”. |
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HAMISH MACDONALD: She wants anyone thinking about ayahuasca to know
the risks. |
27:22 |
Lyndie interview |
LYNDIE DAWSON-CLARKE: “I think for me personally, it wasn’t the ayah
that took my son, it was the tobacco purge that took my son. They need to be
aware that it may not be right for everybody and if you are a really healthy
individual, what are you putting into your system, and the possibility of you
dying can happen. I’m not here to tell people what to do with their lives,
I’m just here to say be aware”. |
27:26 |
Home movie footage
Matt on pier |
Music |
27:56 |
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HAMISH MACDONALD: “How would you describe what it is you’ve been
through?” LYNDIE DAWSON-CLARKE: “It’s now been |
28:03 |
Lyndie interview |
16 months of darkness and of torment and of me searching for my son,
trying to, because my belief was that he was in such agony when he died and I
wasn’t there to save him”. |
28:06 |
Home movie footage
Matt on pier |
Music |
28:31 |
Credits over river aerial |
Reporter - Hamish Macdonald Producer - Sashka Koloff Camera - Mathew Marsic Editor - Garth Thomas Research - Karina Meier Drone operator – Yachaywasi Films Executive producer – Marianne Leitch abc.net.au/foreign |
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