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FOREIGN
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2018
Don't
Call Australia Home!
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Australia is detaining, cuffing and
deporting more New Zealanders than any other group. Guest reporter Peter
FitzSimons finds it’s riling Kiwis and straining relations across The Ditch.
Is this how we treat an old mate? |
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For New Zealanders, it’s a bit like
underarm bowling all over again. This time the affront is the torrent of
Kiwis being forcibly evicted from Australia. |
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“I wasn’t on criminal charges… but I
was still treated as a prisoner who has committed a crime” – Ko Haapu,
deportee. |
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Australia tossed out more than 1300
Kiwis in the past three years - more than any other nationality. Meanwhile
New Zealand ejected just nine Australians. Lawyers expect up to 15,000 New
Zealanders could be deported in the next 10 years. |
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“I’m just worried, I’m scared. This is
like a new world for me man,” says Shaun Wynyard, a newly arrived deportee
who had to leave his family after spending 20 years in Australia. |
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Those numbers might pale against the 500,000-plus
Kiwis living in Australia – who are mostly non-Australian citizens - but
there’s real resentment in New Zealand. |
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Guest reporter Peter FitzSimons is an
ex-Wallaby who faced the All Blacks’ fearsome haka six times. Even he is
taken aback by the anger of New Zealanders – from ordinary citizens to
political heavyweights – at what they see as a lopsided relationship. |
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“It’s a disgrace because it’s not in
the ANZAC spirit, because we fought together and we died together, and we
don’t do it to them” – Paula, Auckland footy fan |
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“We don’t think we as a country have
been treated fairly. I think it’s a breach of human rights” – senior New
Zealand MP |
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But Australian Immigration Minister
Peter Dutton says our Kiwi neighbours are getting a little over-emotional and
that the facts are simple. Under changes to the Migration Act, anyone with a
criminal record who isn’t an Australian citizen can now be deported. “We just
need to see the evidence instead of the emotions. They’re New Zealand
citizens, they’re not Australian citizens. And it’s no breach of human
rights,” he says. |
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While career crooks are among the
deportees, lesser players have been hit by tougher immigration rules allowing
deportation for anyone sentenced to more than a year’s jail – even if it’s
suspended. |
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Others are deemed to be “of bad
character” and – without being charged – spend long months in jail before
finally being deported. Many have grown up in Australia or spent most of
their lives here. |
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But as FitzSimons discovers, change can
bring opportunities for some of the deportees. |
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“Look at you. In Australia you’re in
prison, you’re a drug dealer, you’re scum, we hate you and we send you back
in handcuffs. Here, you’re in the sunshine employing 15 blokes, you’re making
a fortune. Maybe the Australian law’s done you good!” – FitzSimons to Antony
Miller, deportee and scaffolder |
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Peter FitzSimons tells how Australia,
once the receptacle for Britain’s unwanted convicts, has itself become a
player in the exile business. |
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Qantas
plane takes off |
Music |
00:00 |
FitzSimons
on plane. Super: |
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00:14 |
FitzSimons
off plane at Auckland. Title: |
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00:24 |
FitzSimons
to camera |
PETER FITZSIMONS: “G'day, I’m Peter Fitzsimons.
Two hundred and a bitty years ago Great Britain got rid of huge chunks of its
great unwashed by sending them to the great southern land. Those poor bastards were transported for
big crimes, little crimes, even such putrid political crimes as espousing
republicanism. These days Australia itself has become a major playing in
casting people off into exile. |
00:36 |
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I’ve come across the ditch to meet some of
these modern-day exiles, sent from Australia, some of them in chains, some of
them transported for life – all of them told by the Turnbull government,
don’t call Australia home. As a matter
of fact, don’t even call us again”. |
01:05 |
Auckland
airport |
Auckland is where most exiles trickle in, and
for those sent back here against their will, |
01:22 |
Wynyard
arrives Auckland airport |
it’s strictly a backdoor arrival. SHAUN WYNYARD: “I’m nervous, I’m a little bit
scared about starting a new life here after 20 years”. |
01:29 |
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PETER FITZSIMONS: Shaun Wynyard’s one of more than 1300 Kiwis
deported in the last three years since Australia’s laws have changed. He’s certainly no innocent. Shaun hit his partner badly enough to put
her in hospital and him in prison with a 12 month sentence. Now he’s free. But this moment, after eight months in gaol
and detention centres in Australia, is one he’s been dreading. |
01:39 |
Wynyard
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SHAUN WYNYARD: “I mean I haven’t got words for
it. I’m just worried, mate I’m scared,
you know? This is like a new world to
me now. I haven’t seen my kids or family for eight months and they’ve basically
just sent me home”. |
02:08 |
Driving
shots |
Music |
02:20 |
Shaun
in car |
PETER FITZSIMONS: Shaun left New Zealand with his parents as
a 24-year-old. His family is in Queensland.
He’s back here at 44, broke, alone and trying to recognise a city he
left two decades ago. |
02:31 |
Shaun
walks around Auckland city |
Music |
02:48 |
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SHAUN WYNYARD: “Well, I decided to go for a
walk down Queen Street just to see what it was like and I got asked four
times for change by homeless people and they were just camped out on the
footpath as people were just walking by them. |
02:55 |
Shaun |
It’s crazy.
You know it was never like that 20 years ago when I left”. |
03:09 |
Shaun
arrives at motel |
PETER FITZSIMONS: Shaun relies on a helping
hand from Australia’s Home Affairs and New Zealand Social Services to pay for
temporary accommodation – and he’s given $250 in cash. But he’s shocked when the motel wants a
$150 |
03:13 |
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as a deposit. SHAUN WYNYARD: [to receptionist] “A $150 you
reckon?” RECEPTIONIST: “Yes that’ll be fine, yes”. SHAUN WYNYARD: “So I get that back when I
leave?” RECEPTIONIST: “When you’re checking out sir”. |
03:31 |
Shaun
in lift and then into room |
PETER FITZSIMONS: Then he’s on his own. If he’d taken out Australian citizenship he
wouldn’t be in this fix. |
03:39 |
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Under the new laws, any non-citizen sentenced
to a year or more in gaol, or judged to be of bad character, can be
deported. If Shaun was an Australian
living in New Zealand, he’d be treated very differently. Allowed to stay after doing his time. SHAUN WYNYARD: “You know I’ve been working
pretty much the whole time I’ve been there.
I thought I’d be right, |
03:51 |
Shaun
makes coffee |
but then once I actually went to gaol, I got my
papers to say that I was getting deported”. PETER FITZSIMONS: Instead of being released
from gaol, he was sent to a Perth detention centre. He wasn’t the only Kiwi
there. There were scores of others. In
fact New Zealanders now make up the largest nationality group locked up in
Australia’s immigration detention centres. |
04:13 |
Shaun
unpacks clothes |
SHAUN WYNYARD: “I’ve only got five days here in
this motel and after that I’ve got to find some place or I get a little bit
of help to find it, but still it’s pretty hectic, you know and it’s pretty
crazy when you’ve only got a short amount of time, everything’s going on in
your head you know, you’re trying to adjust to a new country that you haven’t
been to for so long and just thinking about everything. You know, your
family”. |
04:38 |
Shaun
looking out window/Auckland wharf. |
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05:02 |
FitzSimons
and Shaun talk at wharf |
PETER FITZSIMONS: “So you married an Australian
woman, you’re a father of Australian kids, your parents are living in
Australia, your sister’s living in Australia – everybody’s Australian except
you because Australia said you can get the hell out”. SHAUN WYNYARD: “Yep”. PETER FITZSIMONS: “That’s tough”. SHAUN WYNYARD: “It’s harsh, it is very harsh.
Yeah it is really, it’s the real deal man”. |
05:11 |
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PETER FITZSIMONS: “I mean there’ll be people
that watch this and say hang on, hang on he’s bashed his missus, he’s on ice,
we don’t want this bloke in our country”. |
05:30 |
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SHAUN WYNYARD: “Yeah well, that’s what they’re
saying. We were high on drugs and we
were fighting regularly, regularly, all the time you know and it came to a
heated point where we got into a scuffle and I, and I backhanded her, you
know, and I wish I hadn’t of. Worse thing I’ve done in my bloody life, mate”. |
05:38 |
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PETER FITZSIMONS: “It was a bad enough backhand
that she had to go to hospital”. SHAUN WYNYARD: “Yeah it was, yeah”. |
05:54 |
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PETER FITZSIMONS: “So while you were living in
Australia you could have taken out citizenship papers, you married an
Australian woman, you’re the father of Australian children, you’ve got the
credentials to be an Australian”. |
05:58 |
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SHAUN WYNYARD: “Yes”. PETER FITZSIMONS: “Do you feel Australian or
Kiwi?” |
06:08 |
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SHAUN WYNYARD: “I feel Australian, yeah,
because I’ve spent most of my adult life there ,you know? So I had a business there”. |
06:11 |
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PETER FITZSIMONS: “What was the business?” SHAUN WYNYARD: “A take away shop, café”. PETER FITZSIMONS: “Making good money?” SHAUN WYNYARD: “Yeah good money, yep”. |
06:19 |
Shaun
shows FitzSimons photos of kids |
PETER FITZSIMONS: Shaun’s appealing his deportation. He’s
reconciled with his partner and hopes she’ll bring their children, aged ten
and fourteen, to visit. |
06:23 |
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“I tell you what, looking at those kids and
looking at you, we’ve got to reckon their mother must be a very beautiful
woman”. SHAUN WYNYARD: “She is. Yeah, they’re not bad, eh? And I miss them heaps mate you know?” |
06:34 |
Wellington
GVs |
Music |
06:48 |
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PETER FITZSIMONS: Since 2014, more than 3,000 non-citizens
have been expelled from Australia and Kiwis are the biggest group. |
06:54 |
FitzSimons
to camera |
“More than a 1,000 Kiwis who’ve got into
trouble, even minor trouble, have been sent back here and that number may
grow by as much as 15 times over the next ten years. Not surprisingly, our Kiwi brothers and
sisters in arms are up in arms”. |
07:03 |
Andrew
Little |
ANDREW LITTLE: [NZ Justice Minister] “We don’t
think we as a country are being treated fairly”. |
07:21 |
Jacinda
Ardern |
JACINDA ARDERN: [Prime Minister] “We’ve had
individuals who have been deported to NZ who have never ever stepped foot in
New Zealand, ever”. |
07:24 |
Winston
Peters |
WINSTON PETERS: [Foreign Minister] “It’s
demonstrably unfair. It’s not the
Australian way of doing things”. |
07:31 |
FitzSimons
driving to Gisborne |
Music |
07:35 |
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PETER FITZSIMONS: [driving] “Maori culture runs
deep throughout New Zealand but nowhere deeper than right here, the easternmost
part of the country, Gisborne. I’ve
come here to meet a long time Australian resident, recently sent packing –
not because he was charged with any Australian crime, simply because he was
judged to be of ‘bad character’. So
they sent him back to the land where he came from, the land of the whale
rider”. |
07:55 |
Gisborne
GVs |
Music |
08:20 |
FitzSimons
with Ko |
PETER FITZSIMONS: [meeting Ko] “When you were a
little boy, when you were a teenager, when you are a young man, this is where
you grew up and grew to manhood?” KO HAAPU: “Yeah me and my first cousins always
were brought here”. PETER FITZSIMONS: Ko Haapu is home. After six years in Australia that ended
disastrously |
08:36 |
Into
wharenui |
he’s reconnecting with his culture. “And this building here?” KO HAAPU: “This is the wharenui [Maori communal
house]”. PETER FITZSIMONS: “Can we go inside?” KO HAAPU: “Yes”. |
08:53 |
Inside
wharenui |
PETER FITZSIMONS: “Wowee. It’s extraordinary, beautiful. So I’ve had
the honour of facing the All Blacks haka six times. When you were a little
boy, were you taught that haka?” KO HAAPU: “Yeah”. PETER FITZSIMONS: “Yeah, and so does it go
roughly?” |
09:00 |
FitzSimons
performs haka |
[together reciting] “Ah ka mate, ka mate, kora, kora. Ka mate, ka
mate kora, kora. Tenei te tangata
pu’ru-huru na’a nei tiki mai whaka-whiti te.
Ra! Upane! Ka upane! A upane! Ka upane. A
upane! Ka upane. Hi! PETER FITZSIMONS: “It used to scare the bejesus out of me”. |
09:17 |
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The warrior in Ko Haapu |
09:42 |
Stills.
Ko Haapu in army in uniform |
came to the fore in 2010 when he was a young
lance corporal fighting for the New Zealand Army in Afghanistan against the
Taliban. |
09:45 |
Gisborne
Anzac Day dawn service |
[Bugle] |
09:55 |
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PETER FITZSIMONS: Now, Ko Haapu’s fighting
another much more personal war against Australia’s Home Affairs
department. It’s a battle he’s losing. |
10:10 |
Stills.
Ko Haapu in Rebels tee-shirt |
After the army he went to Perth. He worked as a
scaffolder and joined the Rebels motorcycle gang with fellow workers, many of
them Kiwis. |
10:24 |
Rebels
motor cyclist on road |
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10:36 |
Still.
Ko Haapu and Theresa |
He got engaged to an Australian woman, Theresa,
and became stepfather to her daughter. |
10:39 |
Wharf |
“So you were set up well in Perth, you’re
earning a good dollar, |
10:44 |
Ko
Haapu and FitzSimons talk on wharf |
you’ve got a fine family to go home to, why did
you join the Rebels?” KO HAAPU: “That camaraderie, I guess from
coming from the military. I felt
personally that I was on my own and they welcomed me with open arms as a
family”. |
10:49 |
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PETER FITZSIMONS: “And a lot of people will
say, what, he’s a member of the Rebels, get him out of here, good riddance,
we don’t need him in Australia. |
11:06 |
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Do you regret joining the Rebels?” KO HAAPU: “Never, not one day”. |
11:14 |
GFX
Rebels |
PETER FITZSIMONS: Under the changes to the Migration Act,
just being a member of a bikie gang, an organisation suspected of criminal
behaviour, was enough to get Ko Haapu deported on bad character grounds, even
though it’s not illegal in WA to belong to one. |
11:17 |
Ko
Haapu and FitzSimons talk on wharf |
“So you were in prison for five months, in a
poxy cell, never put on a charge and never told what the crimes you committed
were?” KO HAAPU: “Yeah. |
11:36 |
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I wasn’t there on criminal charges, I was there
on immigration which is two different things but was still treated as a
prisoner who has committed a crime”. |
11:45 |
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PETER FITZSIMONS: “And the charge was that you
were a man of bad character?” KO HAAPU: “Yeah”. |
11:54 |
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PETER FITZSIMONS: “You’ve got a tattoo just on
your neck here, FTP. What does that
mean?” |
11:59 |
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KO HAAPU: “Fuck the police”. PETER FITZSIMONS: “That’s a bit strong”. KO HAAPU: “It is. It was a statement put on my neck so they
could see it every day. |
12:04 |
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I don't like them in uniform and they didn’t
like me in my uniform”. |
12:12 |
Peter
Dutton |
PETER FITZSIMONS: “Do you accept that there are
innocent people in motorcycle gangs who just like motorbikes?” |
12:14 |
Super:
Peter Dutton |
PETER DUTTON: [Home Affairs Minister] “I look
at the facts in relation to these individuals, the intelligence that’s
available, the information that’s available to me to make a decision and we
make a decision based on that information”. |
12:20 |
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PETER FITZSIMONS: “In the case of Ko Haapu,
former New Zealand soldier living in Perth, he was held with no charge, no
crime committed”. |
12:29 |
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PETER DUTTON: “Peter, he was a member of the
Rebels outlaw motorcycle gang. We know a lot about that gang and we know that
they are part of a syndicate which is the biggest distributor of drugs in our
country. In fact, this passed through the parliament with bipartisan
support. If you’re a member of that
gang, you face deportation”. |
12:37 |
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PETER FITZSIMONS: “In essence though, is it not
that justice must not only be done but be seen to be done…” |
12:57 |
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PETER DUTTON: “Yes”. PETER FITZSIMONS: “You imply a raft of strong
allegations, accusations against the fellow that we can’t see”. |
13:02 |
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PETER DUTTON: “Well Peter, that happens every
day. I mean there’s intelligence
that’s gathered that’s not released for a variety of reasons”. |
13:08 |
Montage
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PROTEST: “Border force! Waste our taxes. Border force! Waste our taxes”. SCOTT MORRISON: “If you’re a gangster, if you’re
a bikie gang member, if you’ve engaged in physical assault or murder…”. |
13:15 |
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AFP OFFICER: “… we don’t want you here. The broader community doesn’t want you
here…”. |
13:29 |
NZ
Parliament building |
PETER FITZSIMONS: “So here’s the thing. That throng of Kiwis who’ve been banished
from that garden of Eden that we know as Australia, may not be angels, |
13:32 |
FitzSimons
to camera outside NZ Parliament |
and it’s way too easy to say good riddance to
bad rubbish and we don’t care about what happens to those Kiwis, but make no
mistake, this may boomerang on the rest of us, too”. |
13:42 |
FitzSimons
into NZ Parliament building |
I’ve come to the New Zealand parliament, the
famed Beehive, to seek the views of the Justice Minister, Andrew Little. “When you have a man imprisoned |
13:53 |
Andrew
Little |
for five months with no charge, is that a
classic example of a suspension of habeas corpus, and is it dangerous?” |
14:06 |
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ANDREW LITTLE: “Detention for that length of
time without charge, |
14:15 |
Andrew
Little |
I can’t think of another country where you know
a liberal, democratic country like New Zealand, like Australia, like you know,
many other western countries in the world where that would be tolerated”. |
14:18 |
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PETER FITZSIMONS: “Australia and New Zealand,
we’re brothers and sisters in arms for a long time. Is this going to affect our friendship?” |
14:29 |
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ANDREW LITTLE: “I think a lot of Kiwis look at
what Australia is doing with Kiwis, many of whom have lived there since
infancy and who, for whatever their circumstances they’ve later got
themselves into, are now being sent back and are saying this doesn’t look
like our best friend, our nearest neighbour and the spirit with which we’ve
grown up with each other. People who
identify as Australian residents, because that’s where they’ve done their
living, and saying, they’re your problem now.
I think that is a problem and I think it’s a breach of human rights”. |
14:36 |
Peter
Dutton |
PETER FITZSIMONS: “Your policy is a breach of
human rights. It’s quite an indictment
from New Zealand Justice Minister”. PETER DUTTON: “Well we just need to see the
evidence instead of the emotions. |
15:09 |
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They’re New Zealand citizens, they’re not
Australian citizens and it’s no breach of human rights. In fact, it’s a
breach of civil rights of Australians who fall victims to these criminals and
Australia won’t tolerate it. It doesn’t matter who we’re talking about, the
criteria for us is whether or not you’ve committed an offence against
Australian citizens and that’s the test that we apply”. |
15:17 |
Auckland
wharf |
Music |
15:39 |
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PETER FITZSIMONS: Auckland’s construction boom
and labour shortage have been a boon for deportees, nicknamed 501s and 116s
after the new laws. |
15:45 |
Miller
on scaffold |
In the two years since the Australian
Government forced Antony Miller to return here, he’s gone from down and out
to up, up and away. He owns his own
scaffolding business and employs dozens of 501s. |
15:55 |
Miller
with FitzSimons on building site |
ANTONY MILLER: “Okay, welcome to the scaffold
game”. PETER FITZSIMONS: “Nice to be here. I’ve done it before. When I was a young man
I did it”. |
16:11 |
Miler
working on scaffold |
Antony left New Zealand for Queensland with his
parents when he was just 15. Seventeen
years on, he was deported here after a history of criminal offences and time
served for drug trafficking. He can never legally set foot in Australia
again. ANTONY MILLER: “Sort of found myself in trouble
when I was 25. |
16:16 |
Miller
with FitzSimons |
I just got caught up in a little bit of a drug
scene, yeah. Just a bit of Eckies [Ecstasy]
and stuff yeah with the boys and then it just turned into something, yeah, I
just sort of got caught up with the, with an undercover police officer sort
of thing so yeah”. PETER FITZSIMONS: “And what happened then?” |
16:40 |
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ANTONY MILLER: “Oh I got sent to prison”. PETER FITZSIMONS: “For how long?” ANTONY MILLER: “I got sentenced to eight years
and had to serve three”. |
16:54 |
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PETER FITZSIMONS: “So eight years, we’re
talking, that must have been a serious amount of drugs. Half a shipload? Half a glove box, half a what?” |
16:59 |
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ANTONY MILLER: “I was caught with there was a
1,000 ecstasy tablets there that was what was probably there. That’d be why, yeah”. |
17:07 |
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PETER FITZSIMONS: When Antony was arrested, he claims he was
working in the mines and paying $300 a week in tax. |
17:13 |
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“So at that point, your parents are living in
Australia, your brother is living in Australia, your life is in Australia,
you’re living with an Australian woman in an Australian house with an
Australian dog”. ANTONY MILLER: “Hm-hmm, yep”. |
17:21 |
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PETER FITZSIMONS: “So then you go to the big
house and the day before you come out, three years on good probation, what do
they say to you?” ANTONY MILLER: “Your visa’s been cancelled. I didn’t even know I had a visa and you’re
going to sit in detention until you work out what you want to do. If you want to go back and fight it from
New Zealand or you can fight it from the detention centre”. |
17:31 |
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PETER FITZSIMONS: Seven months in detention was his tipping
point. |
17:49 |
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ANTONY MILLER: “Oh mate there’s people setting
themselves on fire. There was a guy
who tied a noose around his neck and he was up on the roof. People sewing their lips shut. It was pretty terrible. These are like the,
not so much the Kiwis, like the Iranian fellas and stuff like that. I went there and just said mate, I’ll get
out of here, eh”. |
17:55 |
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PETER FITZSIMONS: “So look at you. In Australia
you were in prison, you were a drug dealer, you’re scum, you’re in the
detention centre, we hate you and we send you back in handcuffs and here,
you’re in the sunshine, you’re employing 15 blokes, you’re making a fortune.
Maybe the law, Australian law’s done you good”. |
18:13 |
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ANTONY MILLER: “It’s actually done me pretty
well, yeah. Not too bad, but I
wouldn’t mind being back in Australia as well but this is home now, so”. |
18:30 |
Driving
sequence |
Music |
18:38 |
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PETER FITZSIMONS: “So I’m driving now to the
far north of New Zealand to talk turkey with a man who’s got the reputation
for talking straight, Foreign Minister, Winston Peters”. |
18:47 |
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Music |
18:57 |
FitzSimons
meets with Winston Peters |
“Foreign Minister thank you very much for
making time for us. Every Anzac Day we embrace each other and say we’re
brothers and sisters in arms, you’re our closest friends across the ditch, do
you feel let down by the famous mate, Australia?” |
19:05 |
Super: |
WINSTON PETERS: “No. What I’m trying to do and trying to get to
Australians in the form of a message, is that there has never been a time
since 1945 that our two countries haven’t needed each other more and I really
mean it. We’ve got security of all the
Pacific to look at and we are senior nations with a chance to shape the
Pacific and its security and its wealth.
We better be mindful of our relationship between ourselves”. |
19:19 |
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PETER FITZSIMONS: “So you’re underwhelmed by
the move?” |
19:44 |
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WINSTON PETERS: “The reality is we want New
Zealanders to get the same treatment an Aussie would get if they were being
changed with an offence. That is a trial before you’re booted off shore, and
more importantly, not being told that you can appeal from offshore back to
Australia. I mean who can afford
that? Look at the legal costs and
everything that’s involved. We just
want a bit more fairness and we want the Aussies to behave the way we think
Aussies ordinarily do behave”. |
19:46 |
Interview
with Dutton |
PETER FITZSIMONS: “Australia and New Zealand,
brothers and sisters in arms for a century. We’ve allowed each other to live
in each other’s countries without the need to get citizenship. Can you
understand why New Zealand feels betrayed by this policy?” PETER DUTTON: “Well I think New Zealand
understands |
20:13 |
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the sovereign right of Australia to say that if
somebody commits an offence against our citizens, regardless of who it is,
that we’ll deport that person. Every nation in the world exerts their
sovereign right to deport criminals back to their country of origin. New Zealand would do it with an Iraqi or a
Brit who committed an offence in New Zealand, in the same way that they would
with an Australian citizen. They would deport that person if that person had
been in contravention or in breach of the New Zealand law”. |
20:28 |
FitzSimons
at football |
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20:56 |
To
camera |
PETER FITZSIMONS: “Now as a one-time Wallaby
who was actually once sent off against the All Blacks for violence, I perhaps
know more than most just how intense the rivalry between our two nations can
be. But I also appreciate how, traditionally,
when the chips are down we stick together. So I’m wondering just how much the
legislation brought in by big brother, has affected little brother across the
ditch. Do they still love us or are they bitterly disappointed in their one
time mates?” |
21:03 |
Players
run on to field |
Music |
21:31 |
Match
in progress |
PETER FITZSIMONS: I put the question at a classic grudge
match, Auckland Warriors trying to reverse their fortunes against our own
West Tigers. |
21:42 |
Vox
Pops with rugby supporters |
“So you think Australia’s doing the wrong
thing?” MALE NZ RUGBY SUPPORTER: “A bit of both
actually to be honest. Yes, I agree
with some things, why they’re sending those people back and then other times
not really. I mean if they grew up there, they should be staying there, not
back here”. |
21:53 |
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FEMALE NZ RUGBY SUPPORTER: “That’s a disgrace
because it’s not in the Anzac spirit”. |
22:07 |
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MALE NZ RUGBY SUPPORTER: “They come over with,
I guess, behaviours they’ve learnt from Australia, be it drugs or gangs or
whatever, what are they going to do when they come over here? Fall into that
default setting which is, gangs, drugs, violence”. |
22:10 |
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FEMALE NZ RUGBY SUPPORTER: “Depending on what
they’ve done and what the crime is and why they’re sending them, but if
they’ve done their time over there, don’t need to deport them”. |
22:23 |
Game
in progress |
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22:29 |
FitzSimons
with Antony Miller at football |
PETER FITZSIMMONS: I’m catching up again with deported
scaffolder, Antony Miller. “So how long have you been out of gaol now?” ANTONY MILLER: “Two years. On the 19th, two years”. PETER FITZSIMONS: “So if you’re making a good
coin every week, you’re doing well. Are you saving it or are you blowing it
up your nose?” |
22:33 |
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ANTONY MILLER: “No. I save it all mate. I’m putting it towards a… I’ve got a couple
of businesses you know I’m trying to grow”. |
22:47 |
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PETER FITZSIMONS: “Do you mix with a lot of
deportees? Do you think the New Zealand police are going to have their hands
full in a year or two?” |
22:58 |
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ANTONY MILLER: “They’ve got their hands full
already. Eighty per cent of my mates
that have come back, they're in gaol already”. PETER FITZSIMONS: “Really?” ANTONY MILLER: “Yep”. PETER FITZSIMONS: “What, because they’re
druggies, because they’re violent, because they’re crims, they’re what?” ANTONY MILLER: “Because they come back here and
they don’t have anything. Like their family’s over there and they just don’t
have anything. They’ve got no support
networks, you know? In Australia, you
know, you get out of gaol you can go to your auntie’s or cousin’s house. Over here they just send them back to a
country they don’t know. So it’s like,
fuck this. I want to go fucking run
amok, you know?” |
23:04 |
Football
match |
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23:29 |
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PETER FITZSIMONS: For the record, after a
thumping performance, the Kiwis took the Aussies down this night, 26 to
4. And what does the deportation
scoreboard look like between our two countries? Well it’s a remarkably uneven contest. In the last three years, Australia’s
deported more than 1300 Kiwis back here.
New Zealand’s deported nine Aussies.
Yep you heard right, nine. |
23:39 |
Winston
Peters |
“Is there any move within your government to
say to Australia, well if you do that to our Kiwis over there, we will do
that to your Australians here or are there no Australians offending?” |
24:07 |
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WINSTON PETERS: “Oh no we’ve made it very
clear, we’re not going to behave like that.
Just because another country may behave in a way which we don’t
accept, it’s no reason for us to accept what we think is in a legal sense,
unacceptable behaviour”. |
24:16 |
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PETER FITZSIMONS: “Is that because Australians
over here are impeccably behaved?” WINSTON PETERS: “Take a wild guess. |
24:28 |
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That would be totally out of character for the
Aussies to be impeccably behaved, but the fact is, if we think it’s wrong, we
don’t want to compound the wrong by duplicating that law in our country”. |
24:36 |
Busker
at market |
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24:45 |
Shaun at market |
PETER FITZSIMONS: Shaun Wynyard’s full of regrets and
wondering how he’ll cope. He used to be one of more than half a million Kiwis
who call Australia home, but like two-thirds of them, he didn’t become a
citizen and has few rights. |
25:00 |
FitzSimons
with Shaun at market |
It’s a big call for him to start afresh,
especially when he’s on one side of the Tasman and his family is on the
other. |
25:16 |
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SHAUN WYNYARD: “I think that I should be
allowed back on to Australian land because I’ve been there for 20 years, my
whole family are there. I’ve got two young kids there. I’ve pretty much worked the whole time I’ve
been there. I’m a decent human being and I think I deserve a chance”. |
25:26 |
FitzSimons
and Shaun listen to busker |
Music |
25:44 |
Drone
shot over wharf |
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25:52 |
Ko Haapu and FitzSimons
talk on wharf |
PETER FITZSIMONS: Ko Haapu’s getting his life back on track.
He works up to 84 hours week managing wharf workers loading timber bound for
Asia. But his relationship with
Theresa has not withstood his deportation and he grieves the separation from
his step daughter. |
25:59 |
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“What are the realistic chances that you will
ever fly back to Australia and resume your life back there?” |
26:15 |
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KO HAAPU: “Probably zero. I’ve been trying through different avenues
to get this appealed”. |
26:21 |
Drone
shots over coast |
Singing |
26:27 |
Ko doing hongi |
PETER FITZSIMONS: It’s back in Whangara that he
finds support from his extended family. |
26:37 |
Ani |
“You’ve known Ko since he was in nappies”. ANI LEACH: “Yes, since he was born. The day he was born”. |
26:46 |
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PETER FITZSIMONS: “What do you think of
Australia holding its nose, saying you, Ko, get the hell out of our country”. ANI LEACH: “Disgusted. Disgusted with their treatment of him. I can’t understand why, why he was treated
so badly. He didn’t deserve that”. |
26:50 |
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PETER FITZSIMONS: “Do you think that he must
have done something terribly, terribly wrong?” ANI LEACH: “No, I can’t understand where he
could have. He may have been mischief,
he may have gone off the track while he was over there, but I can’t see it”. |
27:10 |
Senior
Constable Richard Reeves with Ko |
PETER FITZSIMONS: Senior Constable Richard Reeves is a
childhood friend. |
27:21 |
Reeves
and FitzSimons |
“And I’m judging by your blue uniform, you
turned into the good boy, did he turn into the bad boy or not?” RICHARD REEVES: “Not in my opinion, yeah, not
from what I know, no. |
27:25 |
Reeves
doing hongi with Ko |
I go up and give him a hongi and shake his hand
and ask him how things are because I haven’t seen him for a few years”. |
27:35 |
Reeves
and FitzSimons |
PETER FITZSIMONS: “You’re not troubled by his
FTP, ‘Fuck the Police’ under his chin?” RICHARD REEVES: “No, to me that’s obviously
history he’s got with whoever he’s dealt with. I work on a sort of a, I think
like people might look at the uniform and they just see the police, but
there’s actually a person behind that so if that FTP is aimed at me I might
take offence but I don’t think it is talking to him”. |
27:41 |
FitzSimons
outside church with Ko |
PETER FITZSIMONS: “You’ve hardly been sent to
purgatory though. I mean this is an
extraordinary community”. KO HAAPU: “Yeah, it’s real tight knit here.
Everyone knows each other and pretty much walk into each other’s house and
just go straight to the fridge”. PETER FITZSIMONS: “So you’ve been welcomed
back”. KO HAAPU: “Yeah. I’ve never been shunned from
this community”. |
28:00 |
Ko
and others surfing |
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28:21 |
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PETER FITZSIMONS: Like all the deportees, Ko
Haapu’s life didn’t turn out the way he planned. Now he has no option but to make the most
of what he has. |
28:30 |
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KO HAAPU: “I’m just concentrating on what I
need to be doing today instead of worrying about tomorrow and what’s
coming. Once we’re out there we’re
just free of everything. No one can
contact me unless you swim out there and start surfing with us. |
28:41 |
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Well home’s home – can’t deport me from here”. |
28:53 |
Surfing
and scenery |
Music |
28:56 |
Credit
start |
Reporter - Peter FitzSimons Producer
- Anne Maria Nicholson Camera - Chris Taylor Editor - Andrew Barnes Executive
Producer - Marianne Leitch |
29:04 |
Outpoint
after credits |
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29:31 |