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Why choose to live in the place where your people’s extermination was conceived, planned and directed?

It’s the question facing the 13,000 or so Israelis who have started new lives in Berlin - and who, if Hitler had had his way, may never have lived at all.

It’s a bit like dancing on his grave – and I like dancing. So why not? – Shirah Roth, Israeli comedian

Israelis in Berlin are now among the world’s fastest growing Jewish populations, to the dismay of some compatriots who sense a betrayal. But these mostly young Jews aren’t forgetting history. Holocaust reminders – memorials and Nazi-era architecture – are all over Berlin.

Creepy is part of life. To see life actually growing out of this death, that’s fantastic – Shirah Roth

For young creatives like Shirah or musician-journalist Ofer Waldman, the magnet is Berlin’s chic arts scene, its cultural medley and free thinking. As an early arrival in 1999, Waldman stood out.

It was like, ‘You’re a Jew?’ It’s like, “Oh my God, we’ve never seen a living one’ – Ofer Waldman

Waldman runs a group that promotes equality with Arabs. He realises he is a beneficiary of Germany’s lingering guilt.

Being a Jewish Israeli here, we have a louder voice because of the past. That’s a privilege – Ofer Waldman

Berlin’s Jews do face a rise in European anti-Semitism, which has spurred Germany to introduce tough new laws against hate speech.  But fears of hate crime are, for many, outweighed by a weariness of life in Israel – its perpetual war footing, cost of living or social expectations.

It’s back in Israel where reporter Eric Campbell finds Avi Binyamin, 32, who grew up in an ultra-Orthodox family.

I was supposed to be a rabbi by now, with five or 10 children -  Avi Binyamin

Instead he went secular and became a gym instructor. Now he is packing his bags for Berlin. He looks forward to a more open-minded society.

Even if we are forced to live by the sword here in Israel… I’d want us to educate our children that it’s not the default position, that there are also other ways - Avi Binyamin

Avi’s Israeli girlfriend has already settled in Berlin and awaits him there. His little brother will follow him soon.

Berlin GVs – funky, young

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ERIC CAMPBELL:  It’s become Europe’s capital of cool and artists around the world are joining the party.  Even people whose grandparents had to flee for their lives.

ORI HALEVY: “I moved to Berlin recently,

00:16

Stand-up comedian to audience

you know, just what shows you how fucked up things are in Israel”. [laughter]

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Brandenburg Gate

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Shirah walking down street, smoking

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ERIC CAMPBELL: The German capital was command central for the Holocaust, yet young Israelis are flocking to live here.

SHIRAH ROTH: “If Hitler knew that

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a Jew smokes joints in his old airport…”. [laughing]

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Shirah runs down runway

01:05

Ohad and friend on street

OHAD LEV ROAGE: “I can meet people from Syria, from Lebanon, from Jordan and I can be friends with them”.

01:15

Avi at airport, hugs Gili

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01:21

Memorial to the Murdered Jews of Europe. Title: Homeland

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ERIC CAMPBELL:  Berlin has long acknowledged its guilt for its Nazi past.  This Memorial to the Murdered Jews of Europe dominates the city centre.  The field of coffin like statues is one of the top spots for sightseers and selfies.

“Every day thousands wander through this monument,

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some trying to work out what it’s meant to mean, others pondering the bewildering enormity of what happened.  The Nazi Holocaust, which was planned and directed from this city, not only killed six million Jews, it also spurred the creation of the State of Israel as a refuge from such evil.  So why are so many Jews now leaving Israel for Berlin?”

02:11

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02:37

Berlin bar

02:46

Shirah with Ori in comedy venue with Campbell

ERIC CAMPBELL:  Shirah Roth is one of an estimated 13,000 Israelis who’ve moved here.  She and her friend, Ori Halevy work the city’s burgeoning comedy scene.

02:58

SHIRAH ROTH: “You’re here in joke time which is an open stage

03:09

and it accidentally happens to be…”

ORI HALEVY: “Holocaust Memorial Day”.

SHIRAH ROTH: “Yeah, the Israeli one”.

ORI HALEVY: “The Israeli one”.

03:12

ERIC CAMPBELL: “You’re going to do a Holocaust joke on Holocaust day?”

SHIRAH ROTH: “I don’t know.  I don’t know, we'll have to see what happens”.

ORI HALEVY: “What else do you do on Holocaust Day? 

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That’s the first thing that comes to mind.  If you go to Israel and tell a Holocaust joke, everybody’s going to be like we’ve heard it”.

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ERIC CAMPBELL:  And there’s a deeper side to coming here.

SHIRAH ROTH: “I actually dedicate tonight to my grandma. 

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Yeah, she died when I moved here to Berlin.  She was born here and for me this is, like, I think this is the best way I can celebrate her life, by actually having fun and maybe providing other people, even Germans, a good night and some laughter.  So, I dedicate it to my grandma tonight”.

03:41

Ori stand up

ORI HALEVY: [to audience] “I’m from Israel”.

AUDIENCE MEMBER: “Hey”.

04:04

ORI HALEVY: “Mixed opinions there”.

ERIC CAMPBELL:  Berlin is so international, even the comedy’s in English.

04:09

ORI HALEVY: “I don’t feel I should be paying for stuff here.  You know what I mean?  I mean haven’t you taken enough, come on, you know?  Like a waiter comes up to me, ‘That will be 10 Euros, sir’, and I’m like, ‘Really?  Really? Are you not aware of the history?’  ‘This is a Vietnamese restaurant’.  ‘Yes, but still, still…’. [laughter] I’m glad you guys laugh about it because Germans don’t laugh about it.  They take Hitler way too seriously, which I think was the problem in the first place when you think about it”.

04:17

Host introduces Shirah

HOST: “Give it up for Shirah”. 

[audience cheers/claps]

ERIC CAMPBELL: For Shirah it’s been liberating.

SHIRAH ROTH: “Oh yeah another Israeli, woo hoo!”

ERIC CAMPBELL: She’s spent her entire life in the shadow of Israel’s never-ending conflict with Palestinians.

04:46

Shirah stand up

SHIRAH ROTH: “Yes, I am Israeli, yes, yes I was in the army. Yes, I’ve shot different kinds of guns.  No, I did not aim it at anyone.  Yes, I do regret that”.

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ERIC CAMPBELL: Shirah says she was worn down by the economic cost.  In Tel Aviv, working 50 hours a week barely covered her rent.

05:18

Shirah and Campbell walk in garden

SHIRAH ROTH: “I left Israel with debt.  Like I owe money and I can actually, I had to move out of Israel to pay it back”.

ERIC CAMPBELL: “Wow, okay”.

05:31

SHIRAH ROTH: “That’s a harsh thing”.

ERIC CAMPBELL: “Yes, but do you have much money here?”

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SHIRAH ROTH: “No, but enough.  Enough to have a satisfying life”.

ERIC CAMPBELL: “So it’s a good place to be poor?”

SHIRAH ROTH: “It is the best place to be poor and creative”.

05:52

Tempelhof

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ERIC CAMPBELL: Her favourite place in Berlin is Tempelhof,

06:13

Still. Tempelhof info board

the airport Hitler built up as the

06:16

Shirah looking at pics of Tempelhof

pride of Nazi aviation.

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Still. Tempelhof info board

“So it doesn’t make you feel creepy being

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Shirah at Tempelhof

around Nazi architecture and the echoes of the Holocaust?”

SHIRAH ROTH: “It does, but creepy is part of life… creepy is part of life, and if you’re willing to look into the creep’s eyes, you’re also willing to look into the beauty’s eyes.  You can actually appreciate it. To see life actually growing out of this death.  That’s fantastic”.

06:23

Shirah runs down abandoned runway

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06:50

ERIC CAMPBELL: The abandoned airfield has been turned into a public park.

06:58

Tempelhof park

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SHIRAH ROTH: “I don’t think Hitler would want to see Tempelhof the way it is now. Like plenty of Muslims, plenty of…”

ERIC CAMPBELL: “Israeli Jews”.

SHIRAH ROTH: “Israeli Jews, wow he wouldn’t be happy about Israel anyway”.

07:13

Shirah running on runway/Park activity

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ERIC CAMPBELL: For many young Israelis Berlin has become a place to rise again.

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Shirah interview

SHIRAH ROTH: “It’s not just the stress of politics, and where’s this country going to, and what’s happening, and this fear and hatred in the streets, and this fucked up conflict that just gets worse and worse and worse.  When I was there it was… I was just feeling suffocated… this drowning kind of feeling”.

07:39

Berlin. Graffiti, GVs

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ERIC CAMPBELL: Berlin has always been a magnet for artists, adventurers and misfits.  In the Cold War it was divided between the capitalist west and communist east.  West German musicians, punks and radicals moved to West Berlin to escape the draft. 

08:14

Berlin. Graffiti on former Berlin Wall

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ERIC CAMPBELL:  In 1990, after the Wall came down, they flocked to cheap apartments in the east.  But it’s only recently that young Israelis have joined en masse.

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08:52

OFER WALDMAN: “Most Germans don’t know it, never met a Jew, actually. 

08:56

Ofer interview

Now with all the Israelis here, it becomes more and more rare, but I remember when I just got here like, ‘Yeah, bist du Jude, you’re a Jew?’ It’s like, ‘Oh my God we’ve never seen a living one, you know?’.”

09:00

Park

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09:12

Ofer and Campbell walk in park

ERIC CAMPBELL: Ofer Waldman moved here in 1999 to play French horn in a Berlin orchestra.  As one of the few Israelis here, he found himself feted.

09:17

Commemorative street plaques

OFER WALDMAN: “German authorities based on the Jewish/German past are, I would say, more open

09:34

Ofer interview

for Jewish-Israeli immigration, so you know, getting a visa, getting a permit to work I think it’s maybe slightly easier for Jewish-Israelis”.

09:40

Synagogue

ERIC CAMPBELL: Thousands more came after 2011, when cost of living protests broke out across Israel.  The numbers were small compared to other nationalities, but for Germany, this was big.

09:54

Ofer interview. Super
Ofer Waldman

Jewish shops and restaurants

OFER WALDMAN: “Israelis tend to make a lot of noise.  I would put it that way.  And the Germans are very receptive to this noise, they say it’s great, you know? It’s a sign that we have Jewish-Israeli life here in Germany.  You have Israeli restaurants, you have kosher shops I think you didn’t have in Berlin before.  You have vivid Jewish life, so I think it’s something that the Germans

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Ofer

felt they need in order to maybe to reach a kind of closure regarding the past”.

10:33

Facebook attack video

ERIC CAMPBELL: Not everyone is glad to see them.  In April, Berliners were shocked by this video of a Syrian refugee attacking a man in a skull cap.

10:40

GERMAN MAN: [playing of footage] “Stop, stop, I am filming you”.

WOMAN: Call the police.

ERIC CAMPBELL:  The victim wasn’t even Jewish.  He was an Israeli Arab wearing a kippah as an experiment.

10:52

GERMAN MAN: “Jew or non-Jew, you have to deal with it, you have to deal with it. You are sons of bitches”.

11:08

Arab protest

ERIC CAMPBELL: Protests against Israel’s treatment of Palestinians have sometimes turned into attacks on Jews.

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CROWD CHANTING AT PROTEST: “Jew, Jew cowardly pig.  Come out and fight for yourself”.

11:27

Drone shots over sea and Haifa

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11:33

ERIC CAMPBELL: Back in Israel, many are wondering what the hell is going on.  None more so than those who fled Germany for the safety of the Jewish homeland.

11:46

Chaim interview

CHAIM FISCHGRUND: “When I was young, I wanted nothing to do with Germany.  I never bought German products, I didn’t buy anything that was manufactured in Germany.  I wanted not to hear German. 

12:00

Looking at photo album

Somehow my father kept a lot of these pictures during the war with him in the concentration camps”.

ERIC CAMPBELL: Chaim Fischgrund was born in southern Germany just after the war.  His parents had met in a concentration camp.

12:15

Family photos in album

CHAIM FISCHGRUND: “This is my father’s brother.  They were nine before the war and only two survived”.

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ERIC CAMPBELL: He was three years old when they moved to Israel.

12:36

Looking at photo album

CHAIM FISCHGRUND: “This is where we lived in Israel, a suburb of Tel Aviv”.

ERIC CAMPBELL: Chaim ended up spending much of his life in the US. The young State of Israel was too poor to give his sister the medical help she needed.

12:39

But having to returned to Israel as an adult, he’s dismayed to see another generation leaving.

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Chaim interview. Super:
Chaim Fischgrund

CHAIM FISCHGRUND: “So I think while I understand the phenomenon and the need for it upsets me, still going to Germany I think, for me, is much more emotionally… I don’t want to say as far as abhorrent, that may be a strong word, but …”

ERIC CAMPBELL: “It’s upsetting”.

CHAIM FISCHGRUND: “It’s upsetting more than if someone that I know would move to England, Australia, the United States, Canada. 

13:01

Why Berlin of all places?  It’s hard to say. It was the capital of the Reich”.

13:32

Avi, outdoor exercise training

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ERIC CAMPBELL: But for Israel’s so-called third generation, feelings have changed.

13:46

Avi teaching in gym

AVI BINYAMIN: “I spoke with Germans my age from Berlin.  It was amazing.  I learned so much from them”.

13:52

ERIC CAMPBELL:  Avi Binyamin grew up in an ultra-Orthodox family, before deciding to embrace the secular world and become a gym instructor.  He’s counting the days before he moves to Berlin.

13:59

Avi interview

AVI BINYAMIN: “I’m more interested in the open mind of the people there. Freedom of thought.  Freedom to work.  I was supposed to be a rabbi, married with five to ten children.  That was the path they paved for me”.

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ERIC CAMPBELL:  He says his ultra-Orthodox school taught him Germans were evil.

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AVI BINYAMIN: “It was clear that they described the Germans and the Nazis as human monsters and us as the poor people who suffered from this.  One of the things that I remind myself all the time is that there are no human monsters.  There are humans who do bad things.  Every human including myself, in the right situation, under social and psychological pressure, can be capable of being cruel”.

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Haifa GVs

ERIC CAMPBELL: Avi’s hometown Haifa seems idyllic.  The Jewish residents of this mixed city barely notice the constant clashes in the occupied Palestinian territories.  But young secular Jews have to serve at least two years in the military. 

15:05

Avi with friend in gym

Avi was injured in the army and wants nothing more to do with the conflict.

FRIEND AT GYM: “So the question is how long you plan on staying there?”

AVI BINYAMIN: “Open ticket”.

FRIEND AT GYM: “Really? There’s no plan to return?”

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[continues]

AVI BINYAMIN: [shakes head]

FRIEND AT GYM: “Really?”

15:37

Haifa GVs

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15:40

Avi walks with Daniel

ERIC CAMPBELL: Avi’s leaving behind four sisters and six brothers.  Today it’s a farewell lunch with his younger brother, Daniel. 

15:46

Avi and Daniel at restaurant

They’ve chosen a restaurant in German Colony, named after German missionaries who settled here in the 19^th century.

15:59

AVI BINYAMIN: “We’re talking here in the middle of lunch, so I’ll miss the food. 

16:11

Avi at restaurant

The advantage of Israel is that there are many, many cultures which together create amazing foods. Like in my home, the kitchen is Chilean, Iraqi and Indian, each comes from a different place. In Germany, it seems to be a bit blander, lacking in flavour”.

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Daniel at restaurant

ERIC CAMPBELL: And Daniel, what do you think about your brother moving to Berlin?”

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DANIEL BINYAMIN: “I’m proud of him taking this step. It’s pretty brave”.

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ERIC CAMPBELL: “And you’re thinking of leaving too, aren’t you?”

16:52

DANIEL BINYAMIN: “Yes, in the future.  I hope very much to succeed”.

16:54

ERIC CAMPBELL: As pleasant as life can be on the Mediterranean, they say for them Israel has become stifling.

16:57

Avi

AVI BINYAMIN: “Our society is becoming less moral and more tribal. 

17:07

Avi walks on seashore

Even if Israel has to live by the sword, and do things to protect ourselves, I would want us all to think and to educate our children that it’s not the default way to act”.

17:13

Avi looks out to sea

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17:26

Gili driving to airport

ERIC CAMPBELL: Four days later, Avi’s girlfriend Gili is coming to meet him as he flies into Berlin.  She moved here ahead of him to work in IT.

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17:45

Gili in car

GILI: “I like that people here don’t seem to judge you too much for how you look and what you choose to do, so it’s a very open city”.

ERIC CAMPBELL: “And it feels freer here”.

GILI: “Yeah”.

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Avi arrives at airport and hugs Gili

ERIC CAMPBELL: Avi knows he’s taking a risk. He doesn’t speak German and has no job waiting.

AVI BINYAMIN: “It will take me time to find my place here.  But I came with a positive attitude and I’m continuing with it”.

18:05

Jewish passengers at airport

ERIC CAMPBELL: The steady stream of Israelis has turned Berlin into one of the world’s fastest growing Jewish communities.

18:31

Arab coffee man, restaurant

But the Jewish influx has been dwarfed by Arabs.  In 2015 Germany accepted nearly a million refugees from Syria and neighbouring countries.  Here, they meet on neutral ground.

OFER WALDMAN: “I live in a neighbourhood which has the largest Palestinian community,

18:40

Ofer interview. Super:
Ofer Waldman

I think, in Europe.  I’m thrilled and happy that my children go here to schools and kindergarten, learn some Arabic.  I think that we have a wonderful chance here in Berlin to practice co-existence between Israelis and Arabs”.

19:01

Ofer into Arab restaurant for interview with man

ERIC CAMPBELL: Now a journalist with German public radio, Ofer spends a lot of time reporting on the refugee community. Unlike his German colleagues, he speaks fluent Arabic.  He believes the danger from refugees has been exaggerated.

OFER WALDMAN: “First of all, these people

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Ofer interview

have had a horrible experience coming here. I do not think that the first thing that they’re interested in is to chase down Jews and Israelis in the streets of Berlin or Germany. They have other concerns. And statistics shows that the overwhelming number of anti-Semitic attacks on Jews or Israelis in Berlin or in Germany are conducted by German anti-Semites”.

19:39

Guys busking in city square

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20:04

Berlin GVs

ERIC CAMPBELL: Berlin is surrounded by what used to be East Germany, where the collapse of socialism proved fertile ground for extremists.

20:12

Sebastian in city square

SEBASTIAN: “I don’t like Gypsies, I don’t like faggots, I don’t like Jews, but anybody else is cool.  I like black people.  I like everybody else – that’s cool here”.

ERIC CAMPBELL: “Why don’t you like Jews?”

SEBASTIAN: “They control the world economy and they tell Donald Trump what to do”.

ERIC CAMPBELL: On our first day in Berlin, we came across man, who said he was a

20:24

Campbell and Sebastian in city square

34-year-old Polish German named Sebastian.

20:44

“A lot of Jewish people would say you are a racist idiot”.

SEBASTIAN: “So what, I don’t care”.

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ERIC CAMPBELL: “Do you think it’s in good taste to be saying things like that here?”

SEBASTIAN: “I don’t care.  So what?”

ERIC CAMPBELL: “You, you… I mean you know about the Holocaust, you’re not denying that.  You know that six million Jews were killed”.

SEBASTIAN: “I know”.

ERIC CAMPBELL: “What do you think about that?”

SEBASTIAN: “I can’t say much, just lost this country, we just lost this country so…”

20:53

Ohad and Ari busking in city square

21:20

ERIC CAMPBELL: While you can meet the odd nutter in Berlin, it’s been for the most part an island of tolerance. 

21:27

Israeli musicians, Ohad Lev Roage and Ari Cohen say they’ve never been harassed by Germans.  What’s more, they’ve started hanging out with Arabs.

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21:48

Ohad and Ari

OHAD LEV ROAGE: “You know, the thing in Israel you cannot go to visit the neighbours, it’s not allowed.  Maybe it’s dangerous.  I don’t really know that but here I can meet the people. I can meet people from Syria, from Lebanon, from Jordan and I can be friends with them and I can see their own perspective about how they grew up and what their culture is like and it’s really, really open minding.  It’s really open minding.  It’s something different”.

ERIC CAMPBELL: “So it’s easier for Israelis, Jews and Palestinians to get together in Germany”.

OHAD LEV ROAGE: “Yeah I think so.  I haven’t really had any bad experiences”.

21:59

Arab people in Berlin

ERIC CAMPBELL: Some expats have become vocal critics of how Israel treats Arabs.  While we were shooting in Berlin, the Israeli army was gunning down protestors in Gaza, claiming some were terrorists.

OFER WALDMAN: “I mean of course it’s shattering.  You know, it’s horrible.

22:31

Ofer interview

I would say that, again, coming back to the fact of being a Jewish Israeli here, we have a louder voice because of the past, and it’s a privilege. And then there is a question of what do you do with this privilege?”

22:52

Campbell and Ofer in park

ERIC CAMPBELL: Ofer Waldman runs the German branch of an Israeli human rights group called New Israel Fund.

23:04

Ofer

OFER WALDMAN: “And I tell them, look this is what’s going and not only this is what’s going on, on the border to the Gaza Strip, there are a lot of Israelis who are against it, who oppose it, who just, who need support in order to gather the strength of the Israeli civil society in order to finally bring Israel, bring my country to the right track”.

23:12

Gideon Joffe Holocaust Day speech

GIDEON JOFFE: “For years, Israel has been criticised and discriminated against in the UN – more than any other country in the world”.

ERIC CAMPBELL:  Berlin’s traditional Jewish community has been far more supportive of Israel’s policies.  At this ceremony marking Holocaust Day, community President Gideon Joffe condemned Israel’s critics and blamed Berlin’s Muslims for attacks on Jews.

23:32

GIDEON JOFFE: “Unfortunately, it is the case that all the incidents we’ve been told about are often related to Muslims in Berlin, to Muslim school children or Muslims here in Berlin”.

24:00

Ofer interview. Super:
Ofer Waldman

OFER WALDMAN: “People who say, yeah, the Arabs who come here are anti-Semitic, they attack our Jews, usually do that in order to say, as a consequence, so we should not let them in our country. I’m not willing to be an instrument, as a Jew and an Israeli, I object being used as an instrument in order to close the German border to immigrants, to asylum seekers.  I think it’s actually horrible”.

24:19

Sawsan at Holocaust Day event

ERIC CAMPBELL: One of the strongest defenders of the Jewish community here is a politician of Palestinian descent.  Sawsan Chebli’s parents were asylum seekers. 

24:47

Ceremony, lighting flame

[Cantor sings]

25:00

ERIC CAMPBELL  She’s backed tough penalties for online hate speech and she wants more education on the Holocaust, especially for newcomers.

25:06

Sawsan interview. Super:
Sawsan Chebli

SAWSAN CHEBLI: “We have to teach young people about what this country’s done in the past, killing six million Jews”.

ERIC CAMPBELL: She’s even proposed sending refugees to visit concentration camps.

SAWSAN CHEBLI: “And this does not only refer to Germans, but also to those people who came here as refugees or whatsoever.  This is part of our history and remembering the Holocaust, I feel, is not only like fighting against anti-Semitism, it’s also an existential thing. It’s an existential question, it’s about our democracy”.

25:17

Shirah at Sachsenhausen

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25:52

ERIC CAMPBELL: Coming here has prompted Shirah to do something she never contemplated, visiting Sachsenhausen.  Just 30 minutes from the edge of Berlin, it was one of the first Nazi camps for Jews and political opponents.

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26:19

Shirah with Campbell at Sachsenhausen

SHIRAH ROTH: “As a young teenager, I wouldn’t go with my high school to Poland to see the death camps, because I didn’t feel I was prepared to see it”.

26:25

ERIC CAMPBELL:  This wasn’t the worst of the camps.  It had just one gas chamber and crematorium.  Inmates were transported to Auschwitz for mass extermination.

26:35

SHIRAH ROTH: “I’m happy that those ovens are not on again. 

26:47

But it’s kind of mixes with this horrific feeling in the stomach of they worked in the first place”.

26:51

Shirah sings at Sachsenhausen

SHIRAH: “May these things never end, the sand and the sea, the ripple of the water, Man’s prayer…”

27:06

Shirah interview

“People who criticise me about moving to Berlin because of the Holocaust, have no idea that in Berlin you feel, you think, you see the Holocaust way more than you see it in Israel.  It pops up from anywhere, and as disturbed as I am looking at it, I prefer looking at it and acknowledging it, and seeing it for what it is and being able to learn from it and carrying on with living”.

27:36

Shirah at Tempelhof

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28:09

Shirah runs down runway

ERIC CAMPBELL: For some Israelis, moving to Hitler’s capital will always be an affront to history.  For Shirah Roth, it’s the best revenge a Jew can have.

SHIRAH ROTH: “It’s a bit like dancing on his grave.

28:21

Shirah

Yeah?  And I like dancing, so why not?”

28:36

Credits start:

Reporter - Eric Campbell

Researchers – Orly Halpern, Stefan Kunze, Anne Maria Nicholson

Camera - David Sciasci, Florian Kunert

Editor - Garth Thomas

Assistant editor -Tom Carr

Executive Producer - Marianne Leitch

Foreign Correspondent
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Outpoint after credits

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