00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,041 DR Farmors kamp mod
kansleren - US DVT/HES/ML
00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:07,250 Thursday night in Vienna.
00:00:07,375 --> 00:00:13,417 Every week thousands
demonstrate against Austria's government.
00:00:14,500 --> 00:00:19,792 Correspondent in
Germany It's like going to a stadium
concert. There are so many people.
00:00:22,375 --> 00:00:26,458 Maria Moritz is a retired
social worker -
00:00:26,583 --> 00:00:30,041 - and a frontline fighter
in the movement of grandmothers -
00:00:30,166 --> 00:00:32,625 - who want to stop
Austria's drift to the right.
00:00:32,750 --> 00:00:38,458 During hard times of the
past, grandmothers took over many tasks.
00:00:38,583 --> 00:00:41,291 They had to.
00:00:41,417 --> 00:00:47,750 In my opinion, we're living
in times of crisis in Austria.
00:00:47,875 --> 00:00:53,542 Sure, we're still making
marmalade, but afterwards we demonstrate.
00:01:00,166 --> 00:01:04,583 This is the world's
youngest head of government, Sebastian Kurz -
00:01:04,709 --> 00:01:09,417 - a rising star in Austrian
and European politics.
00:01:09,542 --> 00:01:12,625 At 27, he's appointed minister
for foreign affairs.
00:01:12,750 --> 00:01:19,083 He's 31 when he heads the
conservative party, ÖVP.
00:01:19,208 --> 00:01:23,625 And shortly afterwards, he
wins the general election.
00:01:23,750 --> 00:01:28,625 Federal Chancellor Today we're obliged to change this country
-
00:01:28,750 --> 00:01:32,542 - and I thank you for
having made this possible.
00:01:33,834 --> 00:01:40,417 Kurz now heads a government
that also includes the right-wing populist FPÖ.
00:01:40,542 --> 00:01:43,709 In one year, he's turned
Austria upside down -
00:01:43,834 --> 00:01:46,999 - to the enthusiasm of some
and the horror of others.
00:01:57,542 --> 00:01:59,834 Hello, Mrs. Moritz?
00:01:59,959 --> 00:02:03,834 Are you still at the
Schwedenplatz? Okay.
00:02:04,834 --> 00:02:09,959 I'm meeting Maria Moritz,
but she's disappeared in the crowd.
00:02:10,041 --> 00:02:14,709 Grandma, grandma, our
country needs us.
00:02:14,834 --> 00:02:17,792 Grandmothers are at the
head of a demonstration -
00:02:17,917 --> 00:02:20,917 - that is growing from week
to week.
00:02:22,208 --> 00:02:28,083 Pensioner Last week was really good.
00:02:28,208 --> 00:02:34,083 - How many people were
there? - The organizers say 10,000.
00:02:34,208 --> 00:02:40,291 These Austrians typically
voted for the Social Democrats or the Greens.
00:02:40,417 --> 00:02:45,542 City dwellers, public
employees for instance, academics and students.
00:02:45,667 --> 00:02:52,625 And grandmothers, who are
uneasy about Sebastian Kurz's Austria.
00:02:52,750 --> 00:02:56,333 Pensioner They're constantly creating division:
"we" and "the others".
00:02:56,458 --> 00:03:00,834 Everything that others do
and want, etc. -
00:03:00,959 --> 00:03:05,417 - is fundamentally
negative.
00:03:05,542 --> 00:03:08,959 I don't want to live in a
society like that.
00:03:09,041 --> 00:03:12,250 It's terrible. This way of
thinking...
00:03:12,375 --> 00:03:15,959 It's divisive. They're
dividing us.
00:03:16,041 --> 00:03:22,875 It makes us bigoted,
hard-hearted, and we don't want to be like that.
00:03:31,125 --> 00:03:37,208 Half an hour from Vienna,
you find the other side of a divided Austria.
00:03:37,333 --> 00:03:43,250 Here, affluent newcomers
live together with the traditional rural population.
00:03:44,375 --> 00:03:49,417 Here, practically everyone
votes for Sebastian Kurz's conservatives -
00:03:49,542 --> 00:03:53,166 - or the right-wing
populists in FPÖ.
00:03:54,166 --> 00:04:00,000 I've been invited to visit
financial adviser Michael Artacker.
00:04:00,125 --> 00:04:05,250 After only a few minutes,
the conversation turns to the chancellor -
00:04:05,375 --> 00:04:08,917 - the most popular
politician in Austria.
00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:13,709 Financial Adviser I simply think there's a great enthusiasm.
00:04:13,834 --> 00:04:19,999 The things he dares do.
What he favors. The values he promotes.
00:04:21,041 --> 00:04:26,709 We feel that he wants to
preserve Austria as it has always been.
00:04:26,834 --> 00:04:30,166 We have a good feeling
about him.
00:04:30,291 --> 00:04:36,667 It strikes me how much this
home and these people resemble Denmark.
00:04:36,792 --> 00:04:39,959 - Michael, please. - Thank
you.
00:04:44,458 --> 00:04:47,125 - What is this called? -
"Fleischlaberl".
00:04:47,250 --> 00:04:50,291 It's a typical Austrian
dish.
00:04:50,417 --> 00:04:54,625 We have that in Denmark
too. We call it "frikadeller".
00:04:54,750 --> 00:05:01,250 Financial Adviser We live in a promised land, this lovely,
small, fine Austria.
00:05:01,375 --> 00:05:08,208 We want it to be preserved
like this for our children.
00:05:08,333 --> 00:05:12,250 There have been and are
situations -
00:05:12,375 --> 00:05:16,583 - where we have looked with
concern at the future.
00:05:17,999 --> 00:05:23,250 Especially during the
refugee crisis, where thousands crossed the border.
00:05:25,125 --> 00:05:29,417 Open borders. Everybody can
enter if they want to.
00:05:29,542 --> 00:05:35,834 This worried me personally
or both of us quite a lot -
00:05:35,959 --> 00:05:40,709 - what is happening, and
what awaits us in the future.
00:05:40,834 --> 00:05:44,458 The many negative headlines
-
00:05:44,583 --> 00:05:48,000 - with terror attacks in
many places.
00:05:48,125 --> 00:05:53,000 Geographically, there are
only 50 kilometers between Tulln and Vienna.
00:05:53,125 --> 00:05:55,500 Politically, light years.
00:05:58,625 --> 00:06:02,917 The demonstrators think
Austria is betraying its liberal values -
00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:08,583 - approaching a regime that
older people remember from their childhood.
00:06:08,709 --> 00:06:14,125 Pensioner Laws are passed that cross that particular
boundary.
00:06:14,250 --> 00:06:17,500 The protests are really
important -
00:06:17,625 --> 00:06:22,000 - because you have to show
where the boundary is.
00:06:22,125 --> 00:06:26,625 And when you pass those
laws, you're crossing it.
00:06:26,750 --> 00:06:32,208 They're trying to abolish
freedom of speech and freedom of the press.
00:06:32,333 --> 00:06:35,667 Teacher They're racist and xenophobic.
00:06:35,792 --> 00:06:42,333 Town Planner They blame migrants, asylum seekers and
Muslims -
00:06:42,458 --> 00:06:45,750 - and base their policies
on that.
00:06:45,875 --> 00:06:50,834 They pursue politics at the
expense of a minority, a weak group -
00:06:50,959 --> 00:06:55,000 - dividing the population,
and we're not used to that.
00:06:55,125 --> 00:06:58,458 Teacher Tomorrow is our national day.
00:06:58,583 --> 00:07:03,041 And I see this enormous
demonstration of military power.
00:07:03,166 --> 00:07:08,458 I've never seen anything
like this. So enormous and so big.
00:07:08,583 --> 00:07:13,792 It's important to have a
military, but must it be this big?
00:07:13,917 --> 00:07:19,375 How much money is being
poured in at one end and extracted at the other?
00:07:44,125 --> 00:07:50,709 A pompous national day in
Vienna with much more military muscle than usual.
00:07:51,917 --> 00:07:57,500 For thousands of Austrians,
a chance to get close to their chancellor -
00:07:57,625 --> 00:08:02,083 - when the the prime
minister's office opens its doors.
00:08:02,208 --> 00:08:03,999 Super.
00:08:04,083 --> 00:08:05,959 Super.
00:08:06,041 --> 00:08:10,500 Super. Do we have a better
pen?
00:08:10,625 --> 00:08:14,583 Here, I'm meeting the
Artackers for the first time -
00:08:14,709 --> 00:08:17,709 - when they're meeting
their idol.
00:08:22,208 --> 00:08:24,667 - Thank you. - Thank you.
00:08:24,792 --> 00:08:30,166 Financial Adviser We
were told we had to wait for an hour and 20 minutes.
00:08:30,291 --> 00:08:34,375 Financial Adviser People persevere, because they all hold
him in such high regard.
00:08:34,500 --> 00:08:38,291 Municipal Clerk I met him for the first time. It was a
good experience.
00:08:38,417 --> 00:08:42,500 He was very attentive -
00:08:42,625 --> 00:08:46,208 - and very friendly, also
to the children.
00:08:46,333 --> 00:08:48,959 He really is a likeable
young man.
00:08:50,999 --> 00:08:58,000 A man who became
chancellor, because the FPÖ party supported him.
00:08:58,125 --> 00:09:03,875 The party was founded after
World War II by Nazis.
00:09:03,999 --> 00:09:08,041 FPÖ relativized the crimes
of the Hitler era.
00:09:08,166 --> 00:09:12,834 Its policies were
characterized by nationalism and xenophobia.
00:09:12,959 --> 00:09:16,792 Jörg Haider senses the
taste of success at tomorrow's elections...
00:09:16,917 --> 00:09:20,500 In the 1980s, Jörg Haider
made the FPÖ -
00:09:20,625 --> 00:09:24,291 - the biggest right-wing
populist party in Europe.
00:09:25,542 --> 00:09:28,458 The present chairman, Heinz
Strache -
00:09:28,583 --> 00:09:32,583 - took part in exercises
with paramilitary neo-Nazis as a young man.
00:09:32,709 --> 00:09:36,542 Today, Strache is
vice-chancellor.
00:09:36,667 --> 00:09:42,792 Austria's minister of the
interior, Herbert Kickl, also from the FPÖ -
00:09:42,917 --> 00:09:48,208 - is notorious for cowing
critical media and independent institutions.
00:09:48,333 --> 00:09:52,542 Party Chair The Liberal
Party He separates media into good and
evil media -
00:09:52,667 --> 00:09:55,959 - and sanctions media
according to their coverage.
00:09:56,041 --> 00:09:58,999 This has nothing to do with
democracy.
00:09:59,083 --> 00:10:03,291 That is the road to an
authoritarian and totalitarian state.
00:10:03,417 --> 00:10:10,291 The new government upgrades
police and military at the border.
00:10:10,417 --> 00:10:13,625 It expels ever more asylum
seekers.
00:10:13,750 --> 00:10:17,458 We are very active in the
fight against illegal migration.
00:10:17,583 --> 00:10:22,917 Federal Chancellor The number of people arriving illegally
has quite clearly decreased.
00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:29,417 The chancellor sees no
problem in forming a government with the FPÖ.
00:10:29,542 --> 00:10:33,333 It's a right-wing party,
but I want to emphasize -
00:10:33,458 --> 00:10:39,375 - that it was elected by
the population just like other parties.
00:10:39,500 --> 00:10:43,583 So we're anything but
illiberal and anti-democratic.
00:10:43,709 --> 00:10:47,959 We're a government elected
by the people.
00:10:48,999 --> 00:10:51,750 I ask Kurz about the
growing crowd -
00:10:51,875 --> 00:10:55,959 - demonstrating every week
out of a fear of a slide to the right.
00:10:56,999 --> 00:11:02,583 They see increasing
xenophobia and focus on militarism -
00:11:02,709 --> 00:11:06,208 - and harsh treatment of
critical media.
00:11:06,333 --> 00:11:09,542 Do you understand the fear
and the worries?
00:11:09,667 --> 00:11:15,625 Honestly, I don't. In
Austria, we've had almost 60 years -
00:11:15,750 --> 00:11:20,667 - with a social-democratic
government.
00:11:20,792 --> 00:11:25,667 Now there's a change. But
that's the nature of democracy.
00:11:25,792 --> 00:11:30,291 Shop Assistant His policies are very young, exuberant,
fresh.
00:11:30,417 --> 00:11:35,000 Something's happening
again. There's radical change in the country.
00:11:35,125 --> 00:11:41,792 Truck Driver He has a good way of handling immigration
policy.
00:11:41,917 --> 00:11:47,667 First and foremost he's
told the EU that borders have to be closed.
00:11:47,792 --> 00:11:51,208 It really helped, so the
situation has improved.
00:11:51,333 --> 00:11:56,125 McDonald's Employee He sent out the illegals, and he did an
excellent job.
00:11:56,250 --> 00:12:00,458 I actually don't think
there was an alternative to him.
00:12:00,583 --> 00:12:06,542 We saw what happened with
the former government.
00:12:06,667 --> 00:12:11,999 A great part of Austrians
weren't particularly happy with it.
00:12:12,083 --> 00:12:14,208 Thank you for coming.
00:12:23,583 --> 00:12:28,834 - Could you turn up the
headphones? - Right away.
00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,875 It's a tough time for
migrants in Austria.
00:12:38,999 --> 00:12:42,375 The same goes for some
Austrian citizens -
00:12:42,500 --> 00:12:48,000 - for instance the musician
Rotimi Reichel with the stage name T-Ser.
00:12:48,125 --> 00:12:52,709 Musician I was born in Salzburg and grew up in the
vicinity.
00:12:52,834 --> 00:12:55,834 That was definitely a
challenge.
00:12:56,834 --> 00:13:03,041 I realized early on that I
didn't fit into the picture.
00:13:04,291 --> 00:13:09,250 These experiences are a
constant in his life and music.
00:13:09,375 --> 00:13:14,041 We have to be like them or
don't fit in
00:13:14,166 --> 00:13:18,125 The same assholes who just
smear you
00:13:18,250 --> 00:13:23,583 Now they claim I'm
exaggerating with my race shit...
00:13:23,709 --> 00:13:28,166 Before, it wasn't that bad.
Now it's getting worse and worse.
00:13:28,291 --> 00:13:35,208 It's extremely annoying to
be controlled again and again without reason.
00:13:35,333 --> 00:13:39,667 According to EU statistics,
Austria is the European country -
00:13:39,792 --> 00:13:44,250 - where people of African
descent are most often stopped by police.
00:13:44,375 --> 00:13:49,375 We were born and raised
here and are fighting problems -
00:13:49,500 --> 00:13:51,375 - as if we were refugees.
00:13:51,500 --> 00:13:57,375 Recently, this park was the
scene of a remarkable incident.
00:13:57,500 --> 00:14:01,458 Every Sunday, we meet with
the record company.
00:14:01,583 --> 00:14:06,250 The sun was shining, so we
decided to meet outside.
00:14:06,375 --> 00:14:08,917 We hadn't been to this park
before.
00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:12,208 Suddenly the police turn
up.
00:14:12,333 --> 00:14:18,709 Look at that. That's not
normal. Oh my God!
00:14:18,834 --> 00:14:23,291 - They don't know how to
behave. - Toward us?
00:14:23,417 --> 00:14:28,375 - Why are you grabbing me?
- Now we're leaving the park.
00:14:28,500 --> 00:14:33,333 Yes, but don't grab me.
Please don't grab me.
00:14:35,083 --> 00:14:39,208 We asked them why they
wanted to control us.
00:14:39,333 --> 00:14:42,500 They answered that we
looked suspicious.
00:14:42,625 --> 00:14:47,625 The difference between this
control and the usual ones -
00:14:47,750 --> 00:14:51,333 - is that they film it and
post it to the social media.
00:14:51,458 --> 00:14:55,208 - Am I under arrest or
what? - If you're aggressive.
00:14:55,333 --> 00:14:59,333 Please let go of me. Please
let go of me.
00:14:59,458 --> 00:15:02,917 How am I to stay calm when
you're holding on to me?
00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:07,166 Please don't grab hold of
him.
00:15:08,291 --> 00:15:11,375 Please don't grab hold of
him.
00:15:15,959 --> 00:15:19,166 I want to identify myself.
What is this?
00:15:19,291 --> 00:15:27,291 It went viral within a
couple of hours.
00:15:27,417 --> 00:15:31,500 Shortly afterwards,
Austrian TV and newspapers publish the story.
00:15:31,625 --> 00:15:37,583 Some Austrians are shocked,
but many approve of the police action.
00:15:37,709 --> 00:15:42,709 By and large they don't
want people, who don't look Austrian -
00:15:42,834 --> 00:15:45,458 - to feel at home here.
00:15:45,583 --> 00:15:49,000 - Why? - Austria is to
remain a white country.
00:15:49,125 --> 00:15:52,417 Who are "they"?
The government or the voters?
00:15:52,542 --> 00:15:56,542 Primarily, it actually
comes from the voters.
00:15:58,458 --> 00:16:02,959 Tomorrow we're getting up
early because we have to leave in good time.
00:16:03,041 --> 00:16:07,000 Michael Artacker supports
the government measures -
00:16:07,125 --> 00:16:13,083 - following the refugee
crisis with a focus on immigrant crime.
00:16:13,208 --> 00:16:18,166 To say that you have to
react and increase police presence is positive -
00:16:18,291 --> 00:16:23,166 Financial Adviser - and doesn't mean that you remove
yourself from democracy.
00:16:23,291 --> 00:16:27,166 I almost find that
ridiculous.
00:16:29,208 --> 00:16:35,000 It's not only the
immigration policy that makes people support Kurz.
00:16:35,125 --> 00:16:40,667 Austria's economy is
booming under the new government -
00:16:40,792 --> 00:16:44,542 - and it rewards its
supporters with tax cuts.
00:16:44,667 --> 00:16:47,166 There's also a family bonus
-
00:16:47,291 --> 00:16:51,375 - which the government has
implemented -
00:16:51,500 --> 00:16:55,625 - and which takes effect in
2019.
00:16:55,750 --> 00:16:59,375 It's a relief for families
in general.
00:16:59,500 --> 00:17:02,250 It's a massive tax cut.
00:17:02,375 --> 00:17:06,166 We're getting 1500 euro per
child per year.
00:17:06,291 --> 00:17:09,250 That's not small change.
00:17:09,375 --> 00:17:12,333 We're saving that sum in
taxes.
00:17:25,208 --> 00:17:30,667 Most people associate
Austria with skiing holidays and schnitzel.
00:17:30,792 --> 00:17:34,250 The country was
well-situated in the middle of Europe.
00:17:34,375 --> 00:17:37,583 Its policies were moderate
and centrist in nature.
00:17:37,709 --> 00:17:41,792 But I see an Austria
undergoing a momentous change.
00:17:41,917 --> 00:17:47,000 Like in other European
countries, disunity is growing.
00:17:48,250 --> 00:17:54,417 This is also felt at the
home of Maria Moritz at the upscale end of Vienna.
00:17:54,542 --> 00:17:59,667 On the bookshelves, works
on the Nazi period stand side by side -
00:17:59,792 --> 00:18:04,458 - with books on right-wing
populists, and this is no coincidence.
00:18:04,583 --> 00:18:07,000 As grandmothers, me too -
00:18:07,125 --> 00:18:12,208 Pensioner - we've seen so many governments and
politicians -
00:18:12,333 --> 00:18:14,667 - that we look right
through it.
00:18:15,667 --> 00:18:22,625 What you particularly sense
is that what used to be kept under wraps -
00:18:22,750 --> 00:18:25,417 - which wasn't said out
loud -
00:18:25,542 --> 00:18:29,709 - is now suddenly out in
the open.
00:18:29,834 --> 00:18:34,000 - Do you also want milk? -
Yes, please.
00:18:34,125 --> 00:18:38,041 The couple has three
children and four grandchildren -
00:18:38,166 --> 00:18:42,083 - and when Maria Moritz
suddenly goes to the barricades -
00:18:42,208 --> 00:18:45,000 - it's primarily for their
sake.
00:18:45,125 --> 00:18:50,667 It's a question of how the
future looks for our children and grandchildren -
00:18:50,792 --> 00:18:54,458 - when such a political
trend gains a foothold.
00:18:54,583 --> 00:18:58,041 It always moves in a
particular direction -
00:18:58,166 --> 00:19:02,917 - that is inhumane or
directed against a certain group of people.
00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:08,709 That is what I and the
grandmothers are opposing.
00:19:09,999 --> 00:19:15,542 The trend that Kurz
represents is gaining a foothold internationally.
00:19:15,667 --> 00:19:22,291 The Austrian chancellor
draws ever more headlines.
00:19:22,417 --> 00:19:27,166 He distances himself from
Germany and Angela Merkel's open borders -
00:19:27,291 --> 00:19:31,917 - and allies himself with
Hungary's leader, Viktor Orban -
00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:37,709 - and Italy's powerful
minister of the interior, Matteo Salvini.
00:19:37,834 --> 00:19:41,500 All three pursue a strict
policy on foreigners -
00:19:41,625 --> 00:19:46,999 - and are rewarded by the
voters. But where is Austria heading?
00:19:47,083 --> 00:19:50,875 We are one of the the
world's loveliest countries -
00:19:50,999 --> 00:19:54,750 - and we also want to be
successful.
00:19:54,875 --> 00:19:58,333 We want to be at the
forefront of the EU -
00:19:58,458 --> 00:20:03,709 - and what we're doing now
is what we promised during the election campaign.
00:20:03,834 --> 00:20:09,834 Presumably, that's why we
have the support of the population.
00:20:09,959 --> 00:20:13,291 We're doing what we
promised before the election.
00:20:13,417 --> 00:20:17,667 People apparently don't
expect that of politicians nowadays.
00:20:17,792 --> 00:20:22,166 Austrians like Rotimi
Reichel are less optimistic.
00:20:22,291 --> 00:20:27,792 The atmosphere vis-a-vis
minorities is getting critical.
00:20:27,917 --> 00:20:32,083 Musician I don't know what the future in Austria
holds -
00:20:32,208 --> 00:20:36,875 - for black people with an
immigrant background.
00:20:36,999 --> 00:20:42,417 High School Student If it gets too shitty, I'm out of here.
00:20:42,542 --> 00:20:47,750 In the worst of cases, you
have to be ready to leave.
00:20:47,875 --> 00:20:52,250 Perhaps it sounds hard, but
it's happened so many times in history -
00:20:52,375 --> 00:20:56,417 - that certain population
groups had to make that decision.
00:20:56,542 --> 00:20:58,500 Demonstration on Thursday.
00:20:58,625 --> 00:21:02,166 Maria Moritz has the same
worry.
00:21:02,291 --> 00:21:07,834 Increasingly, there are
racist attacks against people -
00:21:07,959 --> 00:21:14,500 - who are not from here or
look different -
00:21:14,625 --> 00:21:18,166 - or speak another
language.
00:21:18,291 --> 00:21:21,125 That really is new.
00:21:21,250 --> 00:21:26,333 It sounds as if you fear
that history will repeat itself.
00:21:26,458 --> 00:21:30,166 It doesn't repeat itself in
exactly the same way -
00:21:30,291 --> 00:21:33,083 - but it's trending in that
direction.
00:21:33,208 --> 00:21:37,250 And disgusting things are
already happening.
00:21:38,250 --> 00:21:41,917 For the Artackers and many
other Austrians -
00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:45,375 - the country's moving in a
positive direction.
00:21:45,500 --> 00:21:51,625 "This is nothing less
than the beginning of a new era for Austria."
00:21:51,750 --> 00:21:54,458 There's an atmosphere of
change -
00:21:54,583 --> 00:21:59,083 - that I haven't
experienced in a long time.
00:21:59,208 --> 00:22:04,750 I don't see a development
toward the Nazi era of the past -
00:22:04,875 --> 00:22:07,709 - or toward a
radicalization.
00:22:07,834 --> 00:22:14,000 I just think that Austrians
have become more aware -
00:22:14,125 --> 00:22:19,500 - and are more critical of
what's going on here.
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