Theresa May: 00:00 ...
referendum parliament decided to hold, and people, particularly EU citizens who
have made their home here and UK citizens living in the EU, deserve clarity on
these questions as soon as possible ...
Jude McCrory : 00:12 My
name's Jude McCrory. I'm 21 years of age. I live in Derry City. It's in the
Occupied Six Counties of the North of Ireland. It's very close to the border.
Speaker 3: 00:23 People
fear that the UK's plans to leave the European Union could usher in a new age of
sectarian violence, 20 years after a peace deal ended on the decades long
conflict known as The Troubles.
Speaker 4: 00:34 If
Northern Ireland has a hard boarder, militant groups would
flourish once again including one already called the New IRA.
Jude McCrory : 00:50 The
Occupied Six Counties isn't exactly a war zone at the minute. Soldiers aren't
on the streets killing people, but that doesn't mean that the Occupied Six
Counties is a normal society. First of all, I believe in a 32-county Irish
Socialist Republic, that means the complete withdrawal of the British
government from Ireland.
Jude McCrory : 01:24 I
sit on the Saoradh National Executive as the youth
coordinator. Saoradh would have hundreds of members.
We've made massive strides, bold and rapidly, across the country.
Jude McCrory : 01:37 Saoradh is a revolutionary Republican Socialist Party,
opposed to a so-called peace process. It means liberation in Irish, the Irish
language.
Jude McCrory : 01:59 Saoradh's aims and objective is to goad a movement for a
revolution.
Speaker 5: 02:01 But
it's in the way.
Speaker 5: 02:02 [inaudible
00:02:02] matter or as a novelty.
Speaker 6: 02:02 [inaudible
00:02:02] with you.
Speaker 5: 02:07 [inaudible
00:02:07] where's that?
Jude McCrory : 02:14 It
was all kind of a romantic thing for me when I was younger, being in a war and
fighting for freedom. But as I started to read more and see more, particularly
I started seeing a lot of harassment, house raids, and we took the reality of
occupation.
Jude McCrory : 02:41 [inaudible
00:02:41] just like in the real one there. I think the only one that's real is
that one there. It was decommissioned.
Speaker 5: 02:46 Thompson?
Jude McCrory : 02:46 Is
that an AK.
Jude McCrory : 02:51 It's
obviously a near type. It's not even a real one this. I think it's a pellet
gun, is it?
Speaker 5: 02:56 No,
it's an airsoft gun.
Jude McCrory : 02:58 An
airsoft gun? Just a historical reference to the real ones that was used during
the war, basically. They're on display for people to see.
Jude McCrory : 03:15 I
have no issue at all with being described as a dissident republican. There's a
stigma that comes with it, and they automatically think of the word criminal.
Speaker 7: 03:39 [inaudible
00:03:39] Security Act.
Jude McCrory : 03:40 There's
been thousands of stop and searches recorded in Derry alone.
Jude McCrory : 03:48 They
have never found anything on me whatsoever that they could use against me.
Jude McCrory : 04:08 Personally,
I feel I'm constantly looking over my shoulder. It's purely and intimidation
and harassment tactic on their behalf.
Jude McCrory : 04:18 There
definitely is a slight change in the air, like an anxious, sort of people on
the edge of their seat when they see what's happening here.
Jude McCrory : 04:44 England's
difficulty with the European Union is Ireland's opportunity.
Jude McCrory : 04:54 Anybody
who wants to see England withdraw from Ireland, then they should capitalise on
any opportunity.
Speaker 8: 05:00 Took
long enough. Next time.
Jude McCrory : 05:04 The
whole campaign of Brexit, especially in England, you hear cries of "Give
us back our sovereignty from the EU," while continuing to deny the Irish
people their own sovereignty.
Jude McCrory : 05:19 Everybody
has their own predictions about where Brexit's going to go, but we don't need
to create this atmosphere of quotations with "Return to war," and the
"Dark old days," and all this. The only people talking about that is
the media.
Speaker 9: 05:45 Four
men have been arrested in Northern Ireland in connection with a car bomb on
Saturday night in the city of Derry.
Speaker 10: 05:51 ...
continuance of the hatred that the dissident republicans in
particular have for this city and the people in it.
Speaker 11: 05:56 ...
and the group suspected of carrying out this attack are opposed to the 1998
peace deal which ended three decades of violence in the British-run province
...
Speaker 12: 06:05 Calls
for a united Ireland have grown later with Brexit threatening to complicate the
border and relations between North and South.
Jude McCrory : 06:18 Last
Saturday, there was an attack on the British courthouse here in Derry through
the use of a car bomb. It was only a matter of hours before the crime forces
decided who they were going for.
Jude McCrory : 06:37 I
was on my bed and the door started to smash through. I was stripped of my
clothes. I was cable-tied. Forced onto the bed and cable-tied, and then I had a
forensic bodysuit put over the top of me. I was held for two days. Oh, and
eight or nine interviews lasting a couple hours each.
Jude McCrory : 07:14 "Terrorist
seen running away from Derry car bomb will kill sooner or later."
Jude McCrory : 07:20 This
article in this newspaper's trying to connect me with last Saturday's bomb
attack on a courthouse. The potential this article has to put me in danger is
massive. I think especially [inaudible 00:07:37].
Jude McCrory : 07:39 Not
a drop of forensic evidence was produced. No nothing. Not once did they offer a
justification when I was being interviewed for my arrest. I in no way had
anything to do with what happened last Saturday. Definitely not.
Jude McCrory : 07:53 I
just can't believe, how much lies can they put in the one article and it's
sold.
Jude McCrory : 08:09 The
courthouse was attacked purely because it's a British installation, an
irritant. I think the people carrying out these attacks, to them it would be a
legitimate target. Without question.
Jude McCrory : 08:24 Through
the legislation at some place, it's difficult. They actually offer a full
analysis on the attack. I could potentially end up jailed. I would end up
jailed, in fact. But I wouldn't be in the process of condoning such attacks.
Jude McCrory : 08:39 But
I certainly wouldn't condemn people's rights to use such a tactic. I definitely
don't believe I can speak openly about who I am.
Jude McCrory : 09:00 Well,
it made me [inaudible 00:09:01]. Fell back asleep this morning.
Speaker 13: 09:03 Sure
you didn't go to [inaudible 00:09:06]
Speaker 13: 09:09 I
can't fathom their intelligence when they think that you're responsible for every single thing that goes on in this town. You know what
I mean?
Jude McCrory : 09:20 They
had to be [inaudible 00:09:20] after Saturday, but just rounding up the usual
suspects.
Speaker 13: 09:26 Oh,
they're hellbent on whatever they're going to do. They're hellbent on saying
[inaudible 00:09:30] for anything. For the least sweet thing.
Speaker 13: 09:36 The
generation that's growing up now in [inaudible 00:09:38], why have you turned
out to have a really strong [inaudible 00:09:43],
because the hatred been bred unto you. PSNI and the British forces has bred the
hatred unto the young people who don't want to be dragged into the past. Their
attitude hasn't changed from the past.
Jude McCrory : 09:57 The
DUP should be kicking themselves. They're backing Brexit, and now it's created
more talk about a united Ireland than in a long time.
Speaker 13: 10:07 That's
just heading straight for a referendum soon.
Jude McCrory : 10:09 I
wonder if they can sleep with themselves at night? The struggle goes on no
matter what.
Speaker 13: 10:12 That's
it.
Jude McCrory : 10:12 We're
the Borderers.
Speaker 13: 10:14 That's
it.
Jude McCrory : 10:19 My
plans were to attend the Bloody Sunday March For Justice, as I've done since I was
a child, but they have told my solicitor that if I attend that I'll be arrested
in breach of bail.
Speaker 14: 10:29 On
the streets of Derry, people who assembled to campaign against the unlawful
imprisonment of people for demanding their rights, the British government
terrorised that mass movement off the streets by murder. They murdered peaceful
demonstrations.
Jude McCrory : 10:56 If
there was an escalation of violence, it wouldn't be the people that's creating
this hype that would suffer, it would be the ordinary people on the streets.
Probably [inaudible 00:11:09] Borderers.
Jude McCrory : 11:13 I
think if people are so concerned about how the border is going to be an issue,
then I think the British government should do what's right and take the border
out of Ireland. They put it there. If you don't want attacks on the border, and
they don't want [inaudible 00:11:30] on the border, then get rid of it.
Speaker 14: 11:33 Given
that it was the British government whose authority on these streets was itself
an historic usurpation of the rights of the people of this country to
self-government and self-determination, how dare they then continue to govern
this place as if we were tokens in a gambling game.
Jude McCrory : 12:15 I
would ask you to put yourself in any Irishman or woman's shoes. Having a
foreign country occupy your people, what way would you react?
Jude McCrory : 12:33 If
I described you as a bad man for wanting to get rid of that, I don't think they
would have the same opinion.