Theresa May:                     00:00                     ... referendum parliament decided to hold, and people, particularly EU citizens who have made their home here and UK citizens living in the EU, deserve clarity on these questions as soon as possible ...

Jude McCrory :                  00:12                     My name's Jude McCrory. I'm 21 years of age. I live in Derry City. It's in the Occupied Six Counties of the North of Ireland. It's very close to the border.

Speaker 3:                           00:23                     People fear that the UK's plans to leave the European Union could usher in a new age of sectarian violence, 20 years after a peace deal ended on the decades long conflict known as The Troubles.

Speaker 4:                           00:34                     If Northern Ireland has a hard boarder, militant groups would flourish once again including one already called the New IRA.

Jude McCrory :                  00:50                     The Occupied Six Counties isn't exactly a war zone at the minute. Soldiers aren't on the streets killing people, but that doesn't mean that the Occupied Six Counties is a normal society. First of all, I believe in a 32-county Irish Socialist Republic, that means the complete withdrawal of the British government from Ireland.

Jude McCrory :                  01:24                     I sit on the Saoradh National Executive as the youth coordinator. Saoradh would have hundreds of members. We've made massive strides, bold and rapidly, across the country.

Jude McCrory :                  01:37                     Saoradh is a revolutionary Republican Socialist Party, opposed to a so-called peace process. It means liberation in Irish, the Irish language.

Jude McCrory :                  01:59                     Saoradh's aims and objective is to goad a movement for a revolution.

Speaker 5:                           02:01                     But it's in the way.

Speaker 5:                           02:02                     [inaudible 00:02:02] matter or as a novelty.

Speaker 6:                           02:02                     [inaudible 00:02:02] with you.

Speaker 5:                           02:07                     [inaudible 00:02:07] where's that?

Jude McCrory :                  02:14                     It was all kind of a romantic thing for me when I was younger, being in a war and fighting for freedom. But as I started to read more and see more, particularly I started seeing a lot of harassment, house raids, and we took the reality of occupation.

Jude McCrory :                  02:41                     [inaudible 00:02:41] just like in the real one there. I think the only one that's real is that one there. It was decommissioned.

Speaker 5:                           02:46                     Thompson?

Jude McCrory :                  02:46                     Is that an AK.

Jude McCrory :                  02:51                     It's obviously a near type. It's not even a real one this. I think it's a pellet gun, is it?

Speaker 5:                           02:56                     No, it's an airsoft gun.

Jude McCrory :                  02:58                     An airsoft gun? Just a historical reference to the real ones that was used during the war, basically. They're on display for people to see.

Jude McCrory :                  03:15                     I have no issue at all with being described as a dissident republican. There's a stigma that comes with it, and they automatically think of the word criminal.

Speaker 7:                           03:39                     [inaudible 00:03:39] Security Act.

Jude McCrory :                  03:40                     There's been thousands of stop and searches recorded in Derry alone.

Jude McCrory :                  03:48                     They have never found anything on me whatsoever that they could use against me.

Jude McCrory :                  04:08                     Personally, I feel I'm constantly looking over my shoulder. It's purely and intimidation and harassment tactic on their behalf.

Jude McCrory :                  04:18                     There definitely is a slight change in the air, like an anxious, sort of people on the edge of their seat when they see what's happening here.

Jude McCrory :                  04:44                     England's difficulty with the European Union is Ireland's opportunity.

Jude McCrory :                  04:54                     Anybody who wants to see England withdraw from Ireland, then they should capitalise on any opportunity.

Speaker 8:                           05:00                     Took long enough. Next time.

Jude McCrory :                  05:04                     The whole campaign of Brexit, especially in England, you hear cries of "Give us back our sovereignty from the EU," while continuing to deny the Irish people their own sovereignty.

Jude McCrory :                  05:19                     Everybody has their own predictions about where Brexit's going to go, but we don't need to create this atmosphere of quotations with "Return to war," and the "Dark old days," and all this. The only people talking about that is the media.

Speaker 9:                           05:45                     Four men have been arrested in Northern Ireland in connection with a car bomb on Saturday night in the city of Derry.

Speaker 10:                         05:51                     ... continuance of the hatred that the dissident republicans in particular have for this city and the people in it.

Speaker 11:                         05:56                     ... and the group suspected of carrying out this attack are opposed to the 1998 peace deal which ended three decades of violence in the British-run province ...

Speaker 12:                         06:05                     Calls for a united Ireland have grown later with Brexit threatening to complicate the border and relations between North and South.

Jude McCrory :                  06:18                     Last Saturday, there was an attack on the British courthouse here in Derry through the use of a car bomb. It was only a matter of hours before the crime forces decided who they were going for.

Jude McCrory :                  06:37                     I was on my bed and the door started to smash through. I was stripped of my clothes. I was cable-tied. Forced onto the bed and cable-tied, and then I had a forensic bodysuit put over the top of me. I was held for two days. Oh, and eight or nine interviews lasting a couple hours each.

Jude McCrory :                  07:14                     "Terrorist seen running away from Derry car bomb will kill sooner or later."

Jude McCrory :                  07:20                     This article in this newspaper's trying to connect me with last Saturday's bomb attack on a courthouse. The potential this article has to put me in danger is massive. I think especially [inaudible 00:07:37].

Jude McCrory :                  07:39                     Not a drop of forensic evidence was produced. No nothing. Not once did they offer a justification when I was being interviewed for my arrest. I in no way had anything to do with what happened last Saturday. Definitely not.

Jude McCrory :                  07:53                     I just can't believe, how much lies can they put in the one article and it's sold.

Jude McCrory :                  08:09                     The courthouse was attacked purely because it's a British installation, an irritant. I think the people carrying out these attacks, to them it would be a legitimate target. Without question.

Jude McCrory :                  08:24                     Through the legislation at some place, it's difficult. They actually offer a full analysis on the attack. I could potentially end up jailed. I would end up jailed, in fact. But I wouldn't be in the process of condoning such attacks.

Jude McCrory :                  08:39                     But I certainly wouldn't condemn people's rights to use such a tactic. I definitely don't believe I can speak openly about who I am.

Jude McCrory :                  09:00                     Well, it made me [inaudible 00:09:01]. Fell back asleep this morning.

Speaker 13:                         09:03                     Sure you didn't go to [inaudible 00:09:06]

Speaker 13:                         09:09                     I can't fathom their intelligence when they think that you're responsible for every single thing that goes on in this town. You know what I mean?

Jude McCrory :                  09:20                     They had to be [inaudible 00:09:20] after Saturday, but just rounding up the usual suspects.

Speaker 13:                         09:26                     Oh, they're hellbent on whatever they're going to do. They're hellbent on saying [inaudible 00:09:30] for anything. For the least sweet thing.

Speaker 13:                         09:36                     The generation that's growing up now in [inaudible 00:09:38], why have you turned out to have a really strong [inaudible 00:09:43], because the hatred been bred unto you. PSNI and the British forces has bred the hatred unto the young people who don't want to be dragged into the past. Their attitude hasn't changed from the past.

Jude McCrory :                  09:57                     The DUP should be kicking themselves. They're backing Brexit, and now it's created more talk about a united Ireland than in a long time.

Speaker 13:                         10:07                     That's just heading straight for a referendum soon.

Jude McCrory :                  10:09                     I wonder if they can sleep with themselves at night? The struggle goes on no matter what.

Speaker 13:                         10:12                     That's it.

Jude McCrory :                  10:12                     We're the Borderers.

Speaker 13:                         10:14                     That's it.

Jude McCrory :                  10:19                     My plans were to attend the Bloody Sunday March For Justice, as I've done since I was a child, but they have told my solicitor that if I attend that I'll be arrested in breach of bail.

Speaker 14:                         10:29                     On the streets of Derry, people who assembled to campaign against the unlawful imprisonment of people for demanding their rights, the British government terrorised that mass movement off the streets by murder. They murdered peaceful demonstrations.

Jude McCrory :                  10:56                     If there was an escalation of violence, it wouldn't be the people that's creating this hype that would suffer, it would be the ordinary people on the streets. Probably [inaudible 00:11:09] Borderers.

Jude McCrory :                  11:13                     I think if people are so concerned about how the border is going to be an issue, then I think the British government should do what's right and take the border out of Ireland. They put it there. If you don't want attacks on the border, and they don't want [inaudible 00:11:30] on the border, then get rid of it.

Speaker 14:                         11:33                     Given that it was the British government whose authority on these streets was itself an historic usurpation of the rights of the people of this country to self-government and self-determination, how dare they then continue to govern this place as if we were tokens in a gambling game.

Jude McCrory :                  12:15                     I would ask you to put yourself in any Irishman or woman's shoes. Having a foreign country occupy your people, what way would you react?

Jude McCrory :                  12:33                     If I described you as a bad man for wanting to get rid of that, I don't think they would have the same opinion.

 

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