UKRAINE: The Female Fighters of Donbass

 

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My life had nothing to do with the military.

 

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I was a mother of two children and that's still what I am.

 

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I try to be a mom, even at a distance.

 

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When our soldiers started dying,

 

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we couldn't just stand by.

 

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So, we entered

military training.

 

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You need to train as

a sniper every day.

 

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As a professional,

you're always learning.

 

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Sometimes,

shooting first saves a life.

 

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I wouldn't choose

another profession.

 

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For me other professions...

 

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didn't mean enough

 

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that I could justify

leaving my children.

 

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I gave up everything

to go to the front.

 

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I saw a possibility to

inflict losses on the enemy,

 

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and I saw an opportunity

to save lives on our side,

 

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Ultimately to

destroy the enemy.

 

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Yulia is a woman at war.

 

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A mother of two and a

trained economist,

 

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she decided to

interrupt her career

 

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to take part in the

conflict in east Ukraine.

 

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As a civilian volunteer,

she was sent to a morgue

 

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to identify a soldier

that had been killed.

 

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She was shocked.

 

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She signed up as a soldier,

 

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decided to fight

and became a sniper.

 

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This is my life,

it's my guys' lives

 

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and it's my comrades' lives.

 

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You have to do this regularly,

after every shot,

 

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at least twice a week

 

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but unfortunately I

can't always do it.

 

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We try to keep our guns clean,

 

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your accuracy depends on it.

 

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That's why it's the

most important thing.

 

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I can manage without water,

 

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without a shower,

 

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but my gun must be clean.

 

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He was a soldier before the war.

 

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Boys always like guns,

from when they're kids.

 

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Yulia is a pro,

 

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she prefers precision weapons,

 

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I prefer explosives

to things that shoot.

 

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In my room

 

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I have loads of them.

 

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Honestly.

 

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Arthur is Yulia's partner.

 

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Snipers always work in pairs.

 

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The troops know her well

 

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and she's often at the front,

 

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opposite other snipers.

 

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Women have a particular character.

 

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We're a bit more unpredictable.

 

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That's why female snipers

 

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aren't necessarily the best,

 

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but they're harder to...

 

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work out.

 

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No one knows what to expect

 

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That's the worst kind of enemy

 

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as a rule.

 

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I want to frighten them.

 

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For two years, in 2014 and 2015,

 

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Ukrainians and

pro-Russian militias

 

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fought bitterly for

control of Donbass.

 

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The intense combat cost

over 10,000 lives,

 

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including many civilians.

 

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The Ukrainian army, with

civilian volunteers

 

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and nationalist

paramilitary militias,

 

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was fighting Ukrainian

separatists,

 

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supported by Russia.

 

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In early 2015,

 

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Minsk II established a

line of demarcation

 

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and imposed a ceasefire.

 

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A line currently runs along

the separatist privinces,

 

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from Luhansk, in the north,

to Donetsk, in the south.

 

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But the ceasefire is

violated every day.

 

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Constant, low-intensity conflict

 

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causes death and

injury on both sides.

 

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Several times a week,

 

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Yulia leaves her base in Mariupol

to go back to the front.

 

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She sometimes brings back footage.

 

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They came to my country,

my children's land.

 

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If I didn't kill them, they'd

kill us, including me.

 

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And...

 

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I have no other choice.

 

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Yes, sometimes I become very sad,

 

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but I don't let it show.

 

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It's a big secret.

 

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I shut myself in my room,

 

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don't let anyone bother

me for a few days.

 

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Then I pull myself together.

 

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and tell myself things like...

 

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"Get up, get ready,

 

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you must go back again!

 

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If you don't want

to bury your own,

 

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then you need to bury others."

 

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The chaos of war and the

numerous operations

 

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have killed many civilians.

 

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Mistakes are common

on the frontline.

 

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I was with a colleague.

 

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We rarely work alone.

 

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We saw a soldier coming along

 

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he had a rifle on his back.

 

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There was tall grass.

 

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He was walking along

 

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to where the grass ended.

 

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My colleague was ready to shoot

 

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I shifted slightly,

 

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and then I saw,

 

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and he saw - my colleague -

 

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at the very last second

he caught sight of...

 

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He didn't shoot.

 

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The man was holding the

hand of a small child.

 

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I thank god and fate...

 

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that nothing happened,

 

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that we didn't shoot then,

 

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and hope that in the near future

 

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or ever in my life

 

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that never happens

again because

 

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I couldn't bear it.

 

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Yulia has located an outpost.

 

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It's a hollow in the middle of the

fields with buried containers

 

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where soldiers are stationed.

 

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It's exposed and close

to enemy lines.

 

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She speaks to Vasily,

who's in command here.

 

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If I'm talking for

 

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this battalion,

 

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then yes, we have female soldiers,

 

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mostly they fulfil

the need for nurses.

 

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That's enough.

 

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For us, it's strange to see

women involved in war.

 

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I understand feminism,

equality and all that,

 

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but war isn't women's business.

 

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That's why I have a negative

attitude towards it.

 

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I'll specify,

 

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they don't like it, but

they can't fire us.

 

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They have to put up with us.

 

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Women discipline the men a bit.

 

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They make us take

care of ourselves.

 

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But they also create a

certain tension in the team.

 

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We're working on it.

 

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They'll get used to it.

 

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The Ukrainian conflict is

unusual in involving women.

 

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They make up almost a

quarter of the personnel.

 

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They're not required to

do military service,

 

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so they're all volunteers.

 

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After completing a masters

in international relations,

 

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Oksana decided to enlist.

 

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We're a unified center of civilian

and military cooperation,

 

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liasing with the fighting

in east Ukraine.

 

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People have come

forward to help the

 

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families that

need it the most.

 

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We distribute the aid

to the families.

 

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Oksana hands out teddy bears,

 

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but appearances can be deceptive.

 

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She served in the navy

 

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and trained with men.

 

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You learn to get over obstacles

 

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and to assemble, disassemble

and shoot guns.

 

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If you set yourself a

goal, you can achieve it.

 

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Is it hard, psychologically?

 

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Yes, sometimes.

 

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And physically?

 

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Yes, of course.

 

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Walking in a

bullet-proof vest all day

 

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is hard, I think, even for men.

 

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And, of course,

the men are interested in us.

 

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You need a sense of humour!

 

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If you can just make fun of them,

 

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that's the best weapon.

 

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They're away from

their girlfriends -

 

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they come onto you,

 

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if you can handle it

with a bit humour,

 

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then you won't have a problem.

 

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Across the region,

families have been split

 

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by the war.

 

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People aren't always sure

which side to support.

 

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I hope we'll have toys soon,

 

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but for now just

that teddy bear.

 

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Most of the people in

Donbass speak Russian.

 

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Around 40% have a

Russian background.

 

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Oksana and her team

 

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want to create a good image

 

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to bring the villagers onside

with the Ukrainian cause.

 

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Everyone has their own

opinion about the army.

 

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Our main job

 

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is to convince people to trust

 

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the Ukrainian army.

 

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We get that

information out through

 

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our attitude and attention.

 

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We hope that our aid

will change their vision.

 

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The PR operation carries

on with another family.

 

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This family has five children.

 

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The husband was in

the Soviet Red Army.

 

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Hi, Maxim,

 

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Here's what we brought!

 

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All the...

The same as usual.

 

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If you don't want it,

you can give it to someone else.

 

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Or we'll take it when we come

back if you don't like it

 

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and give it to somebody else.

 

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It's a disaster.

 

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With our current wages,

 

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we can't even pay household bills

 

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or buy food.

 

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Because over this

period of five years

 

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average pay has

risen consistently,

 

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but we can buy less with it.

 

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What do you tell your children

 

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when there's shooting?

 

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We explain things as they are.

 

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They're shooting somewhere...

 

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because something's not right,

 

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but it's not an exercise.

 

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That's the most important

thing to understand -

 

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that it's for real.

 

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Somewhere some town

is being shelled.

 

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If the shooting's far off,

then the children go to school.

 

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If it's closer then we

don't let them go to school

 

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They stay with us at home.

 

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Everyone remembers very well

 

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how the president said

 

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that everything would end soon.

 

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But it's the reverse.

 

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It's worse and worse.

 

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Despite the conflict,

the checkpoints

 

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and the constant

presence of the army,

 

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800 000 people still live

close to the frontline,

 

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along a 470 km strip.

 

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Living amid a war

 

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that won't speak its name

is a constant struggle.

 

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The society is made up

 

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of different types of fighters.

 

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Olga lives a stone's throw

from the demarcation line.

 

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Hello!

 

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Stray bullets often come

over from the frontline,

 

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so we had to protect the

windows with railroad ties

 

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to keep them intact.

 

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Now we have this joke

 

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that's it's an innovation,

 

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a new design.

 

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There are our vegetable patches

 

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behind them is a little house

 

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which is always

exposed to shelling

 

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and behind that

little tree lined hill

 

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is the frontline.

 

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These nice suprises come

flying over from there.

 

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"Their weight is our harvest".

 

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That's what we say.

 

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Olga is a lawyer

 

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and used to work at Donetsk

International Airport.

 

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which was destroyed

in the conflict.

 

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00:15:42,387 --> 00:15:43,723

Life is pretty unsettling here

 

252

00:15:43,849 --> 00:15:48,252

and even now, there's no

guarantee of our safety.

 

253

00:15:49,932 --> 00:15:52,540

Because, as you can

hear, it's still going on.

 

254

00:15:52,838 --> 00:15:55,038

The shelling has already started.

 

255

00:15:56,526 --> 00:15:58,505

Listen and you'll hear it.

 

256

00:16:01,292 --> 00:16:02,853

She lost her job,

 

257

00:16:03,003 --> 00:16:04,841

like many here

 

258

00:16:05,135 --> 00:16:07,259

who worked in Donetsk,

which is near,

 

259

00:16:07,321 --> 00:16:08,787

but now inaccessible.

 

260

00:16:09,615 --> 00:16:11,348

We're scared to stay here,

 

261

00:16:11,591 --> 00:16:13,125

but we have no choice.

 

262

00:16:13,774 --> 00:16:17,639

It's pretty much a

humanitarian disaster.

 

263

00:16:17,890 --> 00:16:19,202

There's no work

 

264

00:16:19,411 --> 00:16:20,856

and its impossible

 

265

00:16:21,333 --> 00:16:23,192

to make arrangements to leave.

 

266

00:16:23,411 --> 00:16:24,944

At least at the moment.

 

267

00:16:25,932 --> 00:16:28,620

Apart from at the coal plant,

 

268

00:16:28,709 --> 00:16:31,586

right now people here have no work

 

269

00:16:31,667 --> 00:16:34,643

or opportunity to provide

for their families.

 

270

00:16:36,580 --> 00:16:39,615

Yes we are hostages

to the situation

 

271

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which we can't influence at all.

 

272

00:16:43,092 --> 00:16:44,361

We're hostages here.

 

273

00:16:44,427 --> 00:16:46,927

No one asked our opinion.

 

274

00:16:47,020 --> 00:16:49,443

or takes on board

that we're sick of it,

 

275

00:16:49,499 --> 00:16:50,817

we want peace,

 

276

00:16:50,958 --> 00:16:52,380

thousands of people

 

277

00:16:52,474 --> 00:16:54,263

have become innocent

victims - peaceful people,

 

278

00:16:54,459 --> 00:16:55,726

peaceful civilians.

 

279

00:16:58,185 --> 00:16:59,452

It's not dangerous.

 

280

00:17:08,060 --> 00:17:10,060

"Not dangerous."

It must be a matter of habit.

 

281

00:17:10,732 --> 00:17:14,399

There's a constant risk of

being hit by a stray bullet.

 

282

00:17:20,772 --> 00:17:24,505

And there's the danger from

unexploded mines and shells.

 

283

00:17:25,132 --> 00:17:26,984

Since 2014, Donbass has become

 

284

00:17:27,092 --> 00:17:29,959

one of the world's most

contaminated areas.

 

285

00:17:30,932 --> 00:17:33,399

Specialist NGOs

search for the mines

 

286

00:17:33,972 --> 00:17:36,705

and point them out to

the Ukrainian army,

 

287

00:17:36,819 --> 00:17:39,819

who decide whether to

neutralize them or not.

 

288

00:17:40,092 --> 00:17:43,126

Meeting the inhabitants

on the pro-Russian side

 

289

00:17:43,217 --> 00:17:45,696

to find out about

their daily lives

 

290

00:17:45,721 --> 00:17:47,032

was not possible.

 

291

00:17:47,710 --> 00:17:49,577

Independent, critical media

 

292

00:17:49,790 --> 00:17:52,190

are rarely able to

cross the border.

 

293

00:17:53,230 --> 00:17:54,697

WE'RE WAITING AT HOME.

 

294

00:18:07,243 --> 00:18:10,350

After five years of conflict

the factories have slowed down.

 

295

00:18:10,595 --> 00:18:14,595

People are losing their jobs

and living in ruined buildings.

 

296

00:18:20,975 --> 00:18:22,975

Towns near the

frontline have suffered.

 

297

00:18:23,899 --> 00:18:26,132

On a clear day,

you can easily see Donetsk,

 

298

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Ukraine's fifth city.

 

299

00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:30,764

The capital of Donbass for

the authorities in Kyiv,

 

300

00:18:31,374 --> 00:18:34,014

it's the capital of the

Donetsk's People's Republic

 

301

00:18:34,473 --> 00:18:36,473

for the separatists.

 

302

00:18:44,295 --> 00:18:47,614

Today, the ICRC is one of

the few organisations

 

303

00:18:47,639 --> 00:18:49,639

working on both sides.

 

304

00:18:49,961 --> 00:18:52,333

It's alarmed by the

conditions for civilians

 

305

00:18:52,370 --> 00:18:55,498

and has put Ukraine among

its priority countries,

 

306

00:18:55,561 --> 00:18:58,299

deploying aid programs

in all domains.

 

307

00:19:03,152 --> 00:19:04,886

- Hello.

- Hello.

 

308

00:19:05,076 --> 00:19:06,146

- Have you come to see us?

- Yes

 

309

00:19:06,307 --> 00:19:07,307

- Very nice to meet you.

 

310

00:19:07,456 --> 00:19:08,861

- Shall we go to the ladies?

 

311

00:19:08,885 --> 00:19:09,885

Thank you.

 

312

00:19:12,713 --> 00:19:13,980

Hello.

 

313

00:19:14,536 --> 00:19:15,536

How are you?

 

314

00:19:17,216 --> 00:19:18,549

How are you feeling?

 

315

00:19:19,621 --> 00:19:23,472

The elderly are also

fighting to survive here.

 

316

00:19:24,277 --> 00:19:26,495

Everyone in this house,

equipped by the ICRC,

 

317

00:19:26,871 --> 00:19:28,785

has lost their property or family.

 

318

00:19:29,128 --> 00:19:30,713

- I'm not disturbing you?

- No, not at all.

 

319

00:19:30,780 --> 00:19:32,380

You're Red Cross?

- Yes

 

320

00:19:32,488 --> 00:19:35,542

The International

Committee of the Red Cross.

 

321

00:19:38,136 --> 00:19:40,340

- I'm happy to see you.

 

322

00:19:43,183 --> 00:19:45,886

- How are the beds?

- Excellent.

 

323

00:19:45,936 --> 00:19:47,469

- Not damaged?

- No.

 

324

00:19:48,766 --> 00:19:49,911

- I'm glad to hear it.

 

325

00:19:50,038 --> 00:19:52,879

- The table, the

trunk, all that...

 

326

00:19:55,172 --> 00:19:57,372

- You've got everything you need?

 

327

00:19:57,464 --> 00:19:58,855

- Yes, everything.

 

328

00:19:58,972 --> 00:20:01,431

We've no cause for complaint.

 

329

00:20:03,958 --> 00:20:05,832

- The main thing is to

keep your spirits up.

 

330

00:20:06,648 --> 00:20:08,581

Everything else will be okay.

 

331

00:20:09,828 --> 00:20:11,150

They provide support

 

332

00:20:11,398 --> 00:20:14,002

for the eight old women,

living here in two small rooms.

 

333

00:20:15,941 --> 00:20:18,958

They provide support

for the eight old

 

334

00:20:18,983 --> 00:20:21,652

women, living in

two small rooms.

 

335

00:20:26,496 --> 00:20:28,589

If people lose their

families in the war,

 

336

00:20:28,801 --> 00:20:30,321

or get forcilbly

separated from them,

 

337

00:20:30,543 --> 00:20:33,027

they are bound to suffer,

 

338

00:20:33,957 --> 00:20:36,425

whether they're

civilians or soldiers.

 

339

00:20:42,316 --> 00:20:43,516

On the battlefield

 

340

00:20:43,691 --> 00:20:45,720

Yulia is visiting volunteers

 

341

00:20:45,745 --> 00:20:46,945

at an aid station.

 

342

00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:06,680

Warmth and comfort.

 

343

00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,600

It's a contrast to

her life as a sniper

 

344

00:21:10,650 --> 00:21:14,583

and the memories of the faces

of the people she's cut down.

 

345

00:21:18,467 --> 00:21:19,863

I don't want to know the rest.

 

346

00:21:20,004 --> 00:21:21,323

It's easier for me to assume

 

347

00:21:21,441 --> 00:21:22,441

that I didn't hit them,

 

348

00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,693

that the person just

stumbled and fell.

 

349

00:21:29,140 --> 00:21:30,874

I'll think about it later,

 

350

00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:32,200

when the war's over.

 

351

00:21:32,237 --> 00:21:33,593

If I start thinking about it now

 

352

00:21:33,633 --> 00:21:34,633

it'll kill me.

 

353

00:21:34,687 --> 00:21:35,976

That's how we were taught.

 

354

00:21:37,304 --> 00:21:39,904

I need to think

about my guys first.

 

355

00:21:40,530 --> 00:21:43,004

The lives of her guys

and her two children,

 

356

00:21:43,851 --> 00:21:46,851

aged 12 and 13,

being raised by her mother.

 

357

00:21:49,360 --> 00:21:51,160

- You got ten in geography?

 

358

00:21:52,445 --> 00:21:53,445

- Yes.

 

359

00:21:56,225 --> 00:21:57,359

- And in English?

 

360

00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:01,413

- We didn't have English.

 

361

00:22:02,973 --> 00:22:04,906

It's starting again tomorrow.

 

362

00:22:05,756 --> 00:22:06,756

- I see.

 

363

00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:10,480

- Here's Zlata.

 

364

00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:13,867

- What do you want?

 

365

00:22:15,522 --> 00:22:16,522

- She's shy.

 

366

00:22:17,998 --> 00:22:19,860

Ok, say hi to your sister from me.

 

367

00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,013

I'll call her without the video.

 

368

00:22:25,575 --> 00:22:27,177

I love you very, very much –

 

369

00:22:27,202 --> 00:22:28,765

big hugs and kisses.

 

370

00:22:29,925 --> 00:22:31,592

Do what Granny tells you.

 

371

00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:39,720

Our kids miss us a lot too.

 

372

00:22:39,943 --> 00:22:41,943

It's probably harder

 

373

00:22:42,716 --> 00:22:44,706

when your mum is far away.

 

374

00:22:45,931 --> 00:22:47,428

I'm also sitting thinking –

 

375

00:22:47,466 --> 00:22:48,951

I have a complicated relationship

 

376

00:22:48,976 --> 00:22:49,976

with my daughter.

 

377

00:22:51,687 --> 00:22:52,687

With my son...

 

378

00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:56,205

He loves me very much

 

379

00:22:56,230 --> 00:22:57,230

and I him

 

380

00:22:57,334 --> 00:22:58,867

I love both my children

 

381

00:22:59,713 --> 00:23:00,713

but my daughter...

 

382

00:23:02,178 --> 00:23:03,178

Now she's 13,

 

383

00:23:03,288 --> 00:23:04,288

a formative age.

 

384

00:23:05,818 --> 00:23:07,220

She's angry at me,

 

385

00:23:07,245 --> 00:23:08,300

deep down.

 

386

00:23:09,772 --> 00:23:10,911

She understands,

 

387

00:23:10,936 --> 00:23:12,702

but at the same time it hurts her

 

388

00:23:12,726 --> 00:23:15,052

because for the last four -

almost five years

 

389

00:23:15,077 --> 00:23:16,210

I haven't been with them.

 

390

00:23:18,489 --> 00:23:19,489

There's a war going on.

 

391

00:23:19,584 --> 00:23:21,717

That's a good reason to be away.

 

392

00:23:27,435 --> 00:23:28,732

We'll get through it.

 

393

00:23:37,074 --> 00:23:40,385

The war in Donbass hasn't

been forgotten by everybody.

 

394

00:23:40,748 --> 00:23:42,612

Whether taking up arms,

 

395

00:23:42,716 --> 00:23:46,153

raising a family or

keeping a school open

 

396

00:23:46,798 --> 00:23:48,446

women are playing

 

397

00:23:48,538 --> 00:23:49,693

a major role in the conflict

 

398

00:23:49,718 --> 00:23:51,785

that is tearing Ukraine apart.

 

399

00:23:51,822 --> 00:23:55,089

Those women soldiers all

share a common objective:

 

400

00:23:55,706 --> 00:23:57,506

to get back to normal life.

 

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