TRANSCRIPT - “A Ukrainian Love Story”
For Journeyman Films (all episode string-up)
Prepared by: Sopho Vasadze, sophiko@codastory.com
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Clash of Narratives |
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AFTER
A PRO-EUROPE REVOLUTION IN KIEV IN 2014, RUSSIAN FORCES IGNITED A WAS IN
EASTERN UKRAINE. |
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EXTREME
POLITICAL FACTIONS THRIVED IN THE INSTABILITY THAT FOLLOWED. |
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Kiev, Ukraine |
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Vladimir Ilyich Lenin. |
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When we burned down |
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the main office of the Communist Party of Ukraine |
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I took this as a trophy. |
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This flag is a gift from former
friends. |
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This is my half. |
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This is Tanya’s half. |
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This is about anarcho-syndicalism. |
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This one is anarcho-feminism. |
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Women’s rights are human rights Women’s
rights are human rights! |
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I used to think like other Nazis |
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that anarchists and feminists |
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were fat and ugly women. |
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Which is not true, it turns out. |
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I guess the best thing about anarchism |
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is always you. |
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I love you! |
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I live with a person who |
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unlike every person I’ve dated
before |
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will not suddenly disappear. |
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That’s why |
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especially after the war |
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and all these losses |
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I had no reason to live. |
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But only because there is Tanya |
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— And us! |
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— And you! You are forever. |
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It’s only because of Tanya |
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that I still haven’t committed suicide. |
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And maybe I won’t. The chance is gone. |
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A Ukrainian Love Story |
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FOUR YEARS EARLIER |
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Now on our show |
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we have a debate of two different ideologies |
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that nevertheless have a lot in common. |
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We have Bohdan |
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and we have Dmytro. |
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So for you a gay |
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is a participant of the gay
liberal left movement? |
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— Not a gay, but an LGBT activist. |
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A gay is just a human with a sexual disfunction. |
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Not so terrifying, I’ve seen worse. |
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— So for you they’re the same
enemies as communists? |
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— Yes. |
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For example, I think communists shouldn’t march |
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on Khreschatyk street. |
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I will beat them. |
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And that’s normal. |
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They’re my enemies. |
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— But guys, are you both against
Nazism? |
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— I am, I’m not sure about Dima. |
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— I am for it. |
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You invited me as a fascist
right? |
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— No. |
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— Bohdan has forgotten |
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how good the roads were in the
Third Reich. |
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When I was a Nazi |
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I was madly in love with death in all its forms. |
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Let’s just say, you hate yourself. |
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You hate the whole world. |
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You automatically stop feeling sorry for anyone. |
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As I found out |
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Tanya likes Nazis |
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who have the potential |
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for good. |
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Today is March 8th |
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International Women’s Day. |
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It’s a very important date
for feminists |
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because it’s a day of struggle for women’s rights. |
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But in Ukraine, unfortunately |
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it was twisted during Soviet times. |
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And that’s why most people celebrate something lame. |
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Day of beauty. |
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Day of love. |
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At work women receive greetings like |
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“You decorate our team.” |
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“You make us not pick our noses.” |
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And so on. |
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But for feminists it’s a day |
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when we all go to the march |
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to announce our rights |
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and today there will be a lot of
people |
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because last year there were |
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probably almost 1,000. |
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The ultra-right doesn’t actually attack the feminist march |
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because they consider it too much to attack women. |
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But last year they attacked |
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and poured green ink on a few people. |
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Should I take mine down? |
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You don’t like that it’s anti-fascist? |
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I don’t care. Take any one you
like. |
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I’ll cover you. |
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Dima! |
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What? They know where we live. |
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Here’s the situation. |
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When we leave |
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there will be a scout nearby |
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who monitors when we leave. |
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Then he will call |
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and we will be attacked along
the way. |
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I was a member of the C14 organization |
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probably since it was created. |
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For me it was the most active and powerful |
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organization of Nazis and skinheads in Kiev. |
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And we were rather proud of that. |
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Bu after the moment . |
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that I publicly denounced my
former friends |
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they actually declared war on me |
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Peace, brothers and sisters! |
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As one leader with a moustache used to say. |
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Eugene Karas broke in |
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along with others from the C14 organization |
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when I was alone here. |
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As you can see, they punched my face. |
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Look how handsome I am. |
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It’s fine. I will survive. |
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Maybe we could go through the
courtyard? |
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Where there’s an exit. |
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No, it wouldn’t help. |
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But it’s not a bad idea. |
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Let’s go. |
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Just go? |
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Our knives are sharp. |
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The ultra right guys are also
hanging out nearby, I see. |
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There they are. Over there. |
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I could recognize their shitty
ultra-right faces |
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even at night. |
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You’re my unusual one. |
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OK, that’s a lie. |
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Today we came for the women’s march |
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against violence. |
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Against fascism. |
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I ask for anyone to come forward |
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who would like to speak. |
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Women live in gear their whole
life. |
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And for us it’s normal that
we’re afraid to walk at night. |
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That we’re afraid to let the
plumber into our home. |
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Or even let a friend in. |
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We are taught from a young age
by our mothers |
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what to do to avoid rape. |
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Women’s rights are human rights! |
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Women’s rights are human rights! |
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Women’s rights are human rights! |
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Thank you. |
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Once, when Dima was living with
his ex-wife |
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they invited me and my
ex-boyfriend to their place |
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as guests. |
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Everything there was so fascist. |
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But of course, no leftist flags. |
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And After all this we went into
the kitchen |
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to sit and talk and drink. |
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And Dima started to fry
pancakes. |
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And I thought: what a weird
situation this is. |
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I mean, I’m dating an anarchist |
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there are anarchists around me |
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and they can’t distinguish salt from sugar. |
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And here’s a fascist |
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who cooks. |
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The pancakes aren’t being cooked by his wife. |
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but by him. |
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You swept me off the floor with
those pancakes. |
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I have daughters from my first marriage. |
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Which ended. |
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I met Tanya when she had a
boyfriend. |
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She was an anarchist and she was
dating an anarchist. |
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And I was a Nazi. |
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My wife was also a Nazi. |
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So when my marriage crashed |
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in one moment |
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I was betrayed. |
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Everyone I trusted. |
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I was going crazy in an empty flat. |
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Everything I read was related to Nazism. |
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All my friends were Nazis |
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I didn’t know how to live. |
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Why would I make it even worse |
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by loving an anarchist? |
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It never happens. |
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Nazis don’t date anarchists. |
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This is the flag of the 46th battalion |
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of the Ukrainian special
forces “Donbass.’ |
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These are things I went through
this shitty war with. |
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I had an enlightenment there. |
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It was a battalion where there
weren’t many ultra-right people. |
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There were almost as many
ultra-left people as ultra-right. |
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It was a battalion where gays
were serving. |
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There were all these people
serving |
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who I never thought could be
warriors. |
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I never thought that they could
be braver than fascists. |
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We served in the same battalion |
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but at different times. |
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And then? |
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— And then members of C14 started to attack you. |
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— Yes. |
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— They were so ultra-right. |
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— Yes. |
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— I heard your lecture about LGBT community. |
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“Gays are not defending the
country.” |
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“Gays are weaklings” |
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Well, here’s a gay right here. |
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I could introduce you. |
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You wouldn’t believe how tough
he is. |
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Not all Nazis are bastards. |
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— They say such hateful things. |
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— I was the same kind of criminal until recently. |
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— In only everyone went through
the same things you have. |
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It’s a heroic re-thinking. |
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— A heroic re-thinking. |
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I once met a man who was 25
years older than me. |
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I moved to his place. |
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I don’t know. It was like a
crash course for amateurs. |
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I found a book about feminism
for beginners. |
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I left after he grabbed my ear |
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and dragged me through the
corridor. |
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I packed all my belongings and went to a friend’s place. |
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I grew up in Crimea |
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where I haven’t been in four years |
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Because of the Russian annexation. |
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And I don’t have plans to go. |
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For many reasons. |
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When the Maidan revolution
started |
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we didn’t know that Russia would
oppose this |
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and that annexation would
happen. |
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We all thought we would be able |
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to go to Crimea whenever we
wanted. |
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I didn’t know that my last visit
there |
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would be my final one. |
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There wasn’t an opportunity to
take any souvenirs with me. |
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I couldn’t say goodbye normally. |
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I thought i could buy a ticket |
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and go there again and again, as
usual. |
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But then that happened. |
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When I was an ultra-right romantic |
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and Ukraine was completely un-militarized |
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when no one believed a war
was possible here |
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I saw pictures and even discussed them with friends. |
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We wanted to see men in uniform marching through Kiev. |
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I don’t like it anymore. |
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Be careful with your dreams. |
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Look how many of you there are. |
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everyone wanted a nice photo. |
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Here are my friends. |
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Here is Varg. |
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He was a biker. |
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Kocherga is over there. |
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August 29th, 2014. |
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The invasion by Russian troops into the territory of Ukraine. |
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I can’t come to this wall. |
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Never. |
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I can’t. |
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In war you have the right to answer back. |
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In our country the feeling of
insecurity |
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and the inability to answer back. |
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is very oppressive, really. |
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And when you return from the war |
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from a place where you were in the power |
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where you were the one in charge. |
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Where the lives of ordinary people were dependent |
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on whether you will kill them or not. |
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When you come back to civilian
life |
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you then realize that actually
you have no right to answer. |
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That you’re an object |
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of someone else’s games, aims
and movements. |
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01:17:50:21 01:17:52:03 |
If only I’d known. |
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01:18:02:07 01:18:08:08 |
It’s really easy to get used to it. |
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01:18:08:09 01:18:11:17 |
To eat with it, to go to the toilet with it, to sleep with it. |
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01;18:11:18 01:18:15:20 |
Then you realize it’s warm when you touch it. |
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And cozy. |
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And it doesn’t bother you in the sleeping bag. |
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01:18:23:09 01:18:24:18 |
If you have a weapon in your apartment |
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you are likely to commit suicide
with it. |
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It’s a calmness. |
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You have the right to the final
answer. |
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Yes, there were moments. |
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I remember a moment when |
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Dima said something about refugees. |
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And it was so unpleasant and disgusting |
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that I laid down |
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on the floor in the kitchen and thought |
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01:19:16:18 01:19:18:19 |
what the fuck am I doing? |
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I was a Nazi. |
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01:19:23::24 01:19:26:12 |
What could I hope for? |
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For street movements? |
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For nationalists |
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and for demobilized soldiers. |
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The whole team. |
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01;19:43:00 01:19:44:01 |
Hey, Raduzhko! |
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01:19:44:12 01:19:46:13 |
When you die, you always die
alone. |
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01:19:46:14 01:19:48:16 |
Thank god I was not allowed to
die. |
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01:19:57:14 01:20:00:24 |
All the friends who betrayed me |
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01:20:00:25 20:02:12 |
and disappeared from my life |
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were very important to me. |
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01:20:04:23 01:20:08:03 |
But suddenly I realized there are five million people |
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living in this city. |
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And I’m sure there are people among them |
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01;20:14:22 01:20:17:07 |
who could become my friends. |
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01:20:26:22 01:20:29:00 |
I’m thankful to my crazy
identity crisis. |
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01:20:32:13 01:20:33:04 |
Hold it. |
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01:20:35:08 01:20:36:07 |
—Let me try. |
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01:20:36:08 01:20:39:08 |
— If I were a tender lesbian I
would wear it of course. |
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01:20:39:14 01:20:42:02 |
Socially, the main goal for me now is |
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01:20:42:03 01:20:44:20 |
the protection of vulnerable people. |
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01:20:45:04 01:20:48:05 |
All of those people who I used to offend |
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01:20:48:06 01:30:53:20 |
up until a certain moment in my life. |
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HeForShe A conference about men who support
women’s rights |
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Our next Speaker |
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our final speaker |
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thinks that to change your beliefs about equality |
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you need to be in the shoes of a discriminated group. |
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01:21:18:00 01:21:18:18 |
Dmytro Riznychenko |
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A former ultra-rightist |
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and today a pro-feminist. |
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Thank you. |
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My first mission is to remind
you |
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of something uncomfortable. |
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01:21:33:03 01:21:36:07 |
About something that awaits us
outside these doors. |
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01:21:37:12 01;21:41:06 |
I’m not actually a specialist on
the ultra-right. |
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01:21:43:01 01;21:45:00 |
There are better specialists. |
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01:21:45:01 01:21:48:15 |
I’m here more as an exhibit. |
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01:21:49:16 01:21:52:16 |
Three people convinced me to change. |
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My daughters and most importantly Tanya. |
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01:21:57:15 01:21:59:05 |
A feminist and an anarchist. |
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01:21:59:06 01:22:01:13 |
At least she used to be when we met. |
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01:22:01:14 01:22:03:20 |
We have an experimental life. |
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01:22:03:21 01:22:05:02 |
She goes to work. |
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01:22:05:11 01:22:06:21 |
She’s a computer programmer. |
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01:22:06:22 01:22:10:00 |
I stay at home and do the cleaning, laundry and cooking. |
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01:22:11:23 01:22:14:15 |
Hello. I have a question that
maybe you |
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can answer from your experience. |
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01:22:17:17 01:22:22:01 |
How should girls react when they are attacked? |
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01:22:23:05 01:22:25:05 |
So, if it’s possible, you have
to train. |
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01:22:25:06 01:22:27:20 |
Keep knies on you. And pepper spray and so on. |
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01:22:30:05 01:22:32:05 |
Do you remember what you were
writing about me |
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01:22:32:06 01:22:33:19 |
and other feminists? |
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01:22:34:08 01:22:36:13 |
Can we ask you to apologize, |
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now that you have become
pro-feminist? |
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01:22:39:07 01:22:40:05 |
And secondly |
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01:22:40:06 01;22:43:05 |
as a pro-feminist what’s your
attitude to pornography? |
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01:22:43:06 01:22:44:06 |
Do you watch it? |
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01:22:44:18 01:22:47:21 |
Yes, I watch it, so what? |
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01:22:48:19 01:22:51:11 |
I see that Tanya has not worked
hard enough. |
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01:22:52:09 01:22:56:24 |
— Excuse me, Maria. Do you want him to apologize? |
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01:22:56:25 01:23:00:00 |
— Yes apologize. You didn’t see
what he wrote me before. |
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01:23:00:16 01:23:02:04 |
— But that was then. |
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01:23:02:16 01:23:03:22 |
People change. |
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01:23:03:23 01:23:05:23 |
— Tanya, don’t worry. |
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01:23:05:24 01:23:07:12 |
Maria, please excuse me |
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01:23:07:13 01:23:10:01 |
for all the disgusting things I
wrote then. |
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01:23:23:02 01:23:24:17 |
As I have mentioned before |
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01:23:24:18 01:23:28:11 |
all Nazis are traumatized, often from childhood. |
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01:23:29:00 01:23:31:01 |
Like me, they probably didn’t get enough love. |
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01;23:32:18 01:23:35:12 |
With my father, no relationship at all. |
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01:23:35:15 01:23:38:00 |
And an even tougher relationship with my mom. |
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01:23:38:11 01:23:40:03 |
I just want a phone call. |
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01:23:41:05 01:23:44:05 |
I want to call her, apologize,
hang up the phone |
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01:23:44:06 01:23:46:06 |
and never speak to her again. |
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01:23:49:24 01:23:52:06 |
I would love to become a
psychotherapist |
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01:23:53:08 01:23:57:14 |
and help people who are in
trouble. |
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01:23:57:15 01:24:02:19 |
Because I know how it is when
you want to commit a suicide. |
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01:24:06:06 01;24:11:05 |
And now I don’t know what to do. |
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01:24:12:02 01:24:13:00 |
Let’s put it like this: |
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If Dima could change his beliefs |
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and start a new life |
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01:24:17:21 01:24:22:18 |
that gives hope to other
ultra-right people. |
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01:24:29:03 01:24:33:09 |
Tanya was a lifeline for me. |
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01:24:33:22 01:24:36:20 |
She was a person who I grabbed |
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to get me through the dreadful moments. |
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by Thomas Burns |
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Executive
Producer -Natalia Antelava Director of photography -Ross Domoney Editing Ross
Domoney Research
Olga Shevchenko Graphics & titles George Surguladze Special thanks
Epidemic Sound Subtitle
translation Olga Shtorina |
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