TRANSCRIPT - “A Ukrainian Love Story”

 

For Journeyman Films (all episode string-up)

 

Prepared by: Sopho Vasadze, sophiko@codastory.com

 

 

 

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Clash of Narratives

 

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AFTER A PRO-EUROPE REVOLUTION IN KIEV IN 2014, RUSSIAN FORCES IGNITED A WAS IN EASTERN UKRAINE.

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EXTREME POLITICAL FACTIONS THRIVED IN THE INSTABILITY THAT FOLLOWED.

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Kiev, Ukraine

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Vladimir Ilyich Lenin.

 

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When we burned down

 


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the main office of the Communist Party of Ukraine

 

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I took this as a trophy.

 

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This flag is a gift from former friends.

 

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This is my half.

 

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This is Tanya’s half.

 

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This is about anarcho-syndicalism.

 

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This one is anarcho-feminism.

 

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Women’s rights are human rights Women’s rights are human rights!

 

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I used to think like other Nazis

 

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that anarchists and feminists

 

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were fat and ugly women.

 

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Which is not true, it turns out.

 


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I guess the best thing about anarchism

 

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is always you.

 

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I love you!

 

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I live with a person who

 

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unlike every person I’ve dated before

 

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will not suddenly disappear.

 

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That’s why

 

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especially after the war

 

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and all these losses

 

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I had no reason to live.

 

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But only because there is Tanya

 

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— And us!

 

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— And you! You are forever.

 

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It’s only because of Tanya

 


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that I still haven’t committed suicide.

 

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And maybe I won’t. The chance is gone.

 

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A Ukrainian Love Story

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FOUR YEARS EARLIER

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Now on our show

 

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we have a debate of two different ideologies

 

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that nevertheless have a lot in common.

 

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We have Bohdan

 

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and we have Dmytro.

 

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So for you a gay

 

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is a participant of the gay liberal left movement?

 

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— Not a gay, but an LGBT activist.

 


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A gay is just a human with a sexual disfunction.

 

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Not so terrifying, I’ve seen worse.

 

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— So for you they’re the same enemies as communists?

 

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— Yes.

 

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For example, I think communists shouldn’t march

 

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on Khreschatyk street.

 

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I will beat them.

 

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And that’s normal.

 

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They’re my enemies.

 

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— But guys, are you both against Nazism?

 

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— I am, I’m not sure about Dima.

 

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— I am for it.

 

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You invited me as a fascist right?

 


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— No.

 

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— Bohdan has forgotten

 

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how good the roads were in the Third Reich.

 

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When I was a Nazi

 

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I was madly in love with death in all its forms.

 

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Let’s just say, you hate yourself.

 

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You hate the whole world.

 

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You automatically stop feeling sorry for anyone.

 

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As I found out

 

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Tanya likes Nazis

 

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who have the potential

 

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for good.

 

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Today is March 8th

 


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International Women’s Day.

 

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It’s a very important date for feminists

 

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because it’s a day of struggle for women’s rights.

 

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But in Ukraine, unfortunately

 

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it was twisted during Soviet times.

 

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And that’s why most people celebrate something lame.

 

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Day of beauty.

 

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Day of love.

 

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At work women receive greetings like

 

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“You decorate our team.”

 

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“You make us not pick our noses.”

 

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And so on.

 

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But for feminists it’s a day

 

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when we all go to the march

 

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to announce our rights

 


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and today there will be a lot of people

 

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because last year there were

 

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probably almost 1,000.

 

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The ultra-right doesn’t actually attack the feminist march

 

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because they consider it too much to attack women.

 

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But last year they attacked

 

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and poured green ink on a few people.

 

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Should I take mine down?

 

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You don’t like that it’s anti-fascist?

 

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I don’t care. Take any one you like.

 

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I’ll cover you.

 

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Dima!

 

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What? They know where we live.

 

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Here’s the situation.

 


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When we leave

 

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there will be a scout nearby

 

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who monitors when we leave.

 

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Then he will call

 

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and we will be attacked along the way.

 

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I was a member of the C14 organization

 

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probably since it was created.

 

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For me it was the most active and powerful

 

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organization of Nazis and skinheads in Kiev.

 

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And we were rather proud of that.

 

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Bu after the moment

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that I publicly denounced my former friends

 


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they actually declared war on me

 

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Peace, brothers and sisters!

 

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As one leader with a moustache used to say.

 

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Eugene Karas broke in

 

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along with others from the C14 organization

 

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when I was alone here.

 

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As you can see, they punched my face.

 

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Look how handsome I am.

 

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It’s fine. I will survive.

 

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Maybe we could go through the courtyard?

 

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Where there’s an exit.

 

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No, it wouldn’t help.

 


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But it’s not a bad idea.

 

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Let’s go.

 

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Just go?

 

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Our knives are sharp.

 

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The ultra right guys are also hanging out nearby, I see.

 

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There they are. Over there.

 

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I could recognize their shitty ultra-right faces

 

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even at night.

 

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You’re my unusual one.

 

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OK, that’s a lie.

 

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Today we came for the women’s march

 

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against violence.

 


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Against fascism.

 

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I ask for anyone to come forward

 

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who would like to speak.

 

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Women live in gear their whole life.

 

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And for us it’s normal that we’re afraid to walk at night.

 

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That we’re afraid to let the plumber into our home.

 

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Or even let a friend in.

 

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We are taught from a young age by our mothers

 

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what to do to avoid rape.

 

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Women’s rights are human rights!

 

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Women’s rights are human rights!

 

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Women’s rights are human rights!

 

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Thank you.

 

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Once, when Dima was living with his ex-wife

 


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they invited me and my ex-boyfriend to their place

 

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as guests.

 

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Everything there was so fascist.

 

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But of course, no leftist flags.

 

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And After all this we went into the kitchen

 

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to sit and talk and drink.

 

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And Dima started to fry pancakes.

 

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And I thought: what a weird situation this is.

 

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I mean, I’m dating an anarchist

 

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there are anarchists around me

 

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and they can’t distinguish salt from sugar.

 

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And here’s a fascist

 

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who cooks.

 


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The pancakes aren’t being cooked by his wife.

 

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but by him.

 

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You swept me off the floor with those pancakes.

 

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I have daughters from my first marriage.

 

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Which ended.

 

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I met Tanya when she had a boyfriend.

 

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She was an anarchist and she was dating an anarchist.

 

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And I was a Nazi.

 

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My wife was also a Nazi.

 

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So when my marriage crashed

 

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in one moment

 

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I was betrayed.

 


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Everyone I trusted.

 

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I was going crazy in an empty flat.

 

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Everything I read was related to Nazism.

 

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All my friends were Nazis

 

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I didn’t know how to live.

 

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Why would I make it even worse

 

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by loving an anarchist?

 

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It never happens.

 

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Nazis don’t date anarchists.

 

 

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This is the flag of the 46th battalion

 

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of the Ukrainian special forces “Donbass.’

 

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These are things I went through this shitty war with.

 


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I had an enlightenment there.

 

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It was a battalion where there weren’t many ultra-right people.

 

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There were almost as many ultra-left people as ultra-right.

 

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It was a battalion where gays were serving.

 

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There were all these people serving

 

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who I never thought could be warriors.

 

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I never thought that they could be braver than fascists.

 

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We served in the same battalion

 

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but at different times.

 

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And then?

 

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— And then members of C14 started to attack you.

 

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— Yes.

 

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— They were so ultra-right.

 


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— Yes.

 

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— I heard your lecture about LGBT community.

 

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“Gays are not defending the country.”

 

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“Gays are weaklings”

 

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Well, here’s a gay right here.

 

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I could introduce you.

 

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You wouldn’t believe how tough he is.

 

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Not all Nazis are bastards.

 

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— They say such hateful things.

 

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— I was the same kind of criminal until recently.

 

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— In only everyone went through the same things you have.

 

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It’s a heroic re-thinking.

 


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— A heroic re-thinking.

 

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I once met a man who was 25 years older than me.

 

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I moved to his place.

 

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I don’t know. It was like a crash course for amateurs.

 

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I found a book about feminism for beginners.

 

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I left after he grabbed my ear

 

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and dragged me through the corridor.

 

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I packed all my belongings and went to a friend’s place.

 

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I grew up in Crimea

 

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where I haven’t been in four years

 

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Because of the Russian annexation.

 


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And I don’t have plans to go.

 

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For many reasons.

 

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When the Maidan revolution started

 

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we didn’t know that Russia would oppose this

 

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and that annexation would happen.

 

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We all thought we would be able

 

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to go to Crimea whenever we wanted.

 

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I didn’t know that my last visit there

 

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would be my final one.

 


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There wasn’t an opportunity to take any souvenirs with me.

 

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I couldn’t say goodbye normally.

 

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I thought i could buy a ticket

 

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and go there again and again, as usual.

 

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But then that happened.

 

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When I was an ultra-right romantic

 

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and Ukraine was completely un-militarized

 

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when no one believed a war was possible here

 

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I saw pictures and even discussed them with friends.

 

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We wanted to see men in uniform marching through Kiev.

 

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I don’t like it anymore.

 

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Be careful with your dreams.

 


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Look how many of you there are.

 

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everyone wanted a nice photo.

 

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Here are my friends.

 

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Here is Varg.

 

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He was a biker.

 

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Kocherga is over there.

 

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August 29th, 2014.

 

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The invasion by Russian troops into the territory of Ukraine.

 

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I can’t come to this wall.

 

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Never.

 

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I can’t.

 

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In war you have the right to answer back.

 

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In our country the feeling of insecurity

 


 

 

 

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and the inability to answer back.

 

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is very oppressive, really.

 

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And when you return from the war

 

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from a place where you were in the power

 

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where you were the one in charge.

 

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Where the lives of ordinary people were dependent

 

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on whether you will kill them or not.

 

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When you come back to civilian life

 

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you then realize that actually you have no right to answer.

 

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That you’re an object

 

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of someone else’s games, aims and movements.

 


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If only I’d known.

 

 

 

 

 

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It’s really easy to get used to it.

 

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To eat with it, to go to the toilet with it, to sleep with it.

 

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01:18:15:20

Then you realize it’s warm when you touch it.

 

01:18:16:15

01:18:18:07

And cozy.

 

01:18:18:08

01:18:20:21

And it doesn’t bother you in the sleeping bag.

 

01:18:23:09

01:18:24:18

If you have a weapon in your apartment

 

01:18:24:19

01:18:27:!2

you are likely to commit suicide with it.

 

01:18:30:04

01:18:31:10

It’s a calmness.

 

01:18:32:14

01:18:35:01

You have the right to the final answer.

 

01:19:02:10

Yes, there were moments.

 


01:19:03:23

 

 

01:19:03:24

01:19:06:07

I remember a moment when

 

01:19:07:02

01:19:08:10

Dima said something about refugees.

 

01:19:09:24

01:19:11:24

And it was so unpleasant and disgusting

 

01:19:11:25

01:19:13:06

that I laid down

 

01:19:14:11

01:19:16:17

on the floor in the kitchen and thought

 

01:19:16:18

01:19:18:19

what the fuck am I doing?

 

01:19:22:04

01:19:23:00

I was a Nazi.

 

01:19:23::24

01:19:26:12

What could I hope for?

 

01:19:26:18

01:19:27:13

 

For street movements?

 

01:19:28:01

01:19:29:10

For nationalists

 

01:19:29:18

01:19:31:14

 

and for demobilized soldiers.

 


01:19:41:23

0119:42:21

The whole team.

 

01;19:43:00

01:19:44:01

Hey, Raduzhko!

 

01:19:44:12

01:19:46:13

When you die, you always die alone.

 

01:19:46:14

01:19:48:16

Thank god I was not allowed to die.

 

01:19:57:14

01:20:00:24

All the friends who betrayed me

 

01:20:00:25

20:02:12

and disappeared from my life

 

01:20:02:13

20:04:00

were very important to me.

 

01:20:04:23

01:20:08:03

But suddenly I realized there are five million people

 

01:20:08:04

01:20:11:06

living in this city.

 

01:20:12:15

01:20:14:13

And I’m sure there are people among them

 

01;20:14:22

01:20:17:07

who could become my friends.

 

01:20:26:22

01:20:29:00

I’m thankful to my crazy identity crisis.

 


01:20:32:13

01:20:33:04

Hold it.

 

01:20:35:08

01:20:36:07

—Let me try.

 

01:20:36:08

01:20:39:08

— If I were a tender lesbian I would wear it of course.

 

01:20:39:14

01:20:42:02

Socially, the main goal for me now is

 

01:20:42:03

01:20:44:20

the protection of vulnerable people.

 

01:20:45:04

01:20:48:05

All of those people who I used to offend

 

01:20:48:06

01:30:53:20

up until a certain moment in my life.

 

01:20:57:06

01:21:01:09

 

HeForShe

A conference about men who support women’s rights

01:21:03:08

01:21:05:00

Our next Speaker

 

01:21:06:19

01:21:08:07

our final speaker

 

01:21:08:13

01:21:14:01

thinks that to change your beliefs about equality

 

01:21:14:02

01:21:17:05

you need to be in the shoes of a discriminated group.

 


01:21:18:00

01:21:18:18

Dmytro Riznychenko

 

01:21:19:00

01:21:20:02

A former ultra-rightist

 

01:21:20:03

01:21:21:05

and today a pro-feminist.

 

01:21:27:15

01:21:28:15

Thank you.

 

01:21:29:04

0121:31:01

My first mission is to remind you

 

01:21:31:02

01:21:33:02

of something uncomfortable.

 

01:21:33:03

01:21:36:07

About something that awaits us outside these doors.

 

01:21:37:12

01;21:41:06

I’m not actually a specialist on the ultra-right.

 

01:21:43:01

01;21:45:00

There are better specialists.

 

01:21:45:01

01:21:48:15

I’m here more as an exhibit.

 

01:21:49:16

01:21:52:16

Three people convinced me to change.

 

01;21:52:17

01:21:56:17

My daughters and most importantly Tanya.

 


01:21:57:15

01:21:59:05

A feminist and an anarchist.

 

01:21:59:06

01:22:01:13

At least she used to be when we met.

 

01:22:01:14

01:22:03:20

We have an experimental life.

 

01:22:03:21

01:22:05:02

She goes to work.

 

01:22:05:11

01:22:06:21

She’s a computer programmer.

 

01:22:06:22

01:22:10:00

I stay at home and do the cleaning, laundry and cooking.

 

01:22:11:23

01:22:14:15

Hello. I have a question that maybe you

 

01:22:14:16

01:22:17:06

can answer from your experience.

 

01:22:17:17

01:22:22:01

How should girls react when they are attacked?

 

01:22:23:05

01:22:25:05

So, if it’s possible, you have to train.

 


01:22:25:06

01:22:27:20

Keep knies on you. And pepper spray and so on.

 

01:22:30:05

01:22:32:05

Do you remember what you were writing about me

 

01:22:32:06

01:22:33:19

and other feminists?

 

01:22:34:08

01:22:36:13

Can we ask you to apologize,

 

01:22:36:14

01:22:39:06

now that you have become pro-feminist?

 

01:22:39:07

01:22:40:05

And secondly

 

01:22:40:06

01;22:43:05

as a pro-feminist what’s your attitude to pornography?

 

01:22:43:06

01:22:44:06

Do you watch it?

 

01:22:44:18

01:22:47:21

Yes, I watch it, so what?

 

01:22:48:19

01:22:51:11

I see that Tanya has not worked hard enough.

 

01:22:52:09

01:22:56:24

— Excuse me, Maria. Do you want him to apologize?

 


01:22:56:25

01:23:00:00

— Yes apologize. You didn’t see what he wrote me before.

 

01:23:00:16

01:23:02:04

— But that was then.

 

01:23:02:16

01:23:03:22

People change.

 

01:23:03:23

01:23:05:23

— Tanya, don’t worry.

 

01:23:05:24

01:23:07:12

Maria, please excuse me

 

01:23:07:13

01:23:10:01

for all the disgusting things I wrote then.

 

01:23:23:02

01:23:24:17

As I have mentioned before

 

01:23:24:18

01:23:28:11

all Nazis are traumatized, often from childhood.

 

01:23:29:00

01:23:31:01

Like me, they probably didn’t get enough love.

 

01;23:32:18

01:23:35:12

With my father, no relationship at all.

 

01:23:35:15

01:23:38:00

And an even tougher relationship with my mom.

 

01:23:38:11

01:23:40:03

I just want a phone call.

 


01:23:41:05

01:23:44:05

I want to call her, apologize, hang up the phone

 

01:23:44:06

01:23:46:06

and never speak to her again.

 

01:23:49:24

01:23:52:06

I would love to become a psychotherapist

 

01:23:53:08

01:23:57:14

and help people who are in trouble.

 

01:23:57:15

01:24:02:19

Because I know how it is when you want to commit a suicide.

 

01:24:06:06

01;24:11:05

And now I don’t know what to do.

 

01:24:12:02

01:24:13:00

Let’s put it like this:

 

01:24:13:01

01:24:16:00

If Dima could change his beliefs

 

01:24:16:01

01:24:17:20

and start a new life

 

01:24:17:21

01:24:22:18

that gives hope to other ultra-right people.

 

01:24:29:03

01:24:33:09

Tanya was a lifeline for me.

 

01:24:33:22

01:24:36:20

She was a person who I grabbed

 


01:24:36:21

01:24:39:14

to get me through the dreadful moments.

 

01:24:52:14

01:24:55:00

 

Directed by

 

Julia Kochetova-Nabozhniak Ross Domoney

01:24:56:00

01:24:59:23

 

 

Produced by Thomas Burns

01:25:00:12

01:25:03:20

 

Executive Producer -Natalia Antelava Director of photography -Ross Domoney Editing Ross Domoney

Research Olga Shevchenko Graphics & titles George Surguladze Special thanks Epidemic Sound

Subtitle translation Olga Shtorina

01:25:05:03

01:25:07:22

 

Archival

 

"Wet Monday" (2015),

directed by Olexandra Chuprina

 

Hromadske TV, Bohdan Kutepov

"There was a fight in the House of Officers in Kyiv because of the "Georgievsky Ribbons" (2017)

 

Toronto TV, "Nationalist vs gay:

Dmytro Reznichenko and Bohdan Globa" (2014) Marian Kushnir, for Radio Liberty

Radio Liberty, "Dmytro Reznichenko is beaten"

 

Radio Liberty, "A massive fight between Self-Defense and nationalists on Maidan"


01:25:08:10

01:25:11:00

 

Music

 

“The Cossack Rode Beyond the Danube” Performed by V. Zarkov and O. Taranetz,

accompanied by the Orchestra of Folk Instruments of Ukrainian Television and Radio, conducted by Victor Gutsal.

 

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