Covid19
Vaccine
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PUTIN:
-I have
breaking news
for you.
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PUTIN:
A Russian
vaccine
against
coronavirus
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PUTIN:
has been
recorded.
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PUTIN:
It provides
stable immunity
and it's
registered.
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PUTIN:
One of my
daughters
got the
vaccine.
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PUTIN:
The first
time,
her
temperature rose up to 102.
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PUTIN:
It went down
and
then back up
again.
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PUTIN:
Her
antibodies are high.
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VO
-The end of
the coronavirus
thanks to
Putin's vaccine.
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VO:
We'd like to
believe it, but
many western
scientists
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VO:
deplore a
publicity effect.
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VO:
The
effectiveness of the
Russian vaccine
is a mystery.
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VO:
The race for
the vaccine is on,
even in
Switzerland.
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VO:
The
population still
needs to be
convinced.
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VO:
Around the
world, thousands of
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VO:
scientists
are
looking for
a vaccine.
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VO:
Nearly 150
projects
stand in
competition.
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VO:
Among them,
a team of
researchers in Geneva.
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VO:
A public-private
collaboration
led by
Nicolas Mach.
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VO:
The
scientist
is working
on a vaccine
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VO:
inspired by
the techniques
against
cancer.
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REPORTER:
Do you feel
the pressure on you?
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NICOLAS
MACH:
-Less than
those who are
on the front
lines.
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NICOLAS
MACH:
Our strategy
is
not going to
replace vaccines
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NICOLAS
MACH:
already in
development,
as our
strategy is more complex.
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NICOLAS
MACH:
Ours is
heavier
to get ready
for market.
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NICOLAS
MACH:
We're not capable
of producing
100,000 doses.
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VO:
-This
Genevese vaccine
is a plan B,
modest
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VO:
and very behind
compared to
American or
Chinese teams.
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VO:
Those
vaccines already in the
final phase
of human testing.
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NICOLAS
MACH:
-It is not
known
whether the
vaccines
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that are
being tested
will be
effective.
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NICOLAS
MACH:
We all hope
so, but no one--
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NICOLAS
MACH:
you can
issue press releases,
raise the
stock market,
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NICOLAS
MACH:
God knows
what,
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NICOLAS
MACH:
but no one
can say
if these
drugs will work.
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VO:
-The
American company Moderna
is the most
advanced.
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VO:
Its genetic
vaccine
is
revolutionary.
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VO:
A technique
that has
never been used
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VO:
for other
drugs
on man.
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VO:
The Federal
Council
has made
pre-orders.
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VO:
Already 4.5
million
doses
reserved,
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VO:
with no
guarantee of success.
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VO:
Choosing the
right vaccine
and the
right amount:
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VO:
that's
Virginia Masserey's job.
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VIRGINA
MASSEREY:
-We make
contracts
with several
firms.
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VIRGINA
MASSEREY:
We will see
what vaccine
we can get
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VIRGINA
MASSEREY:
and in what
number of doses.
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REPORTER:
-Is there a
war between
countries to
buy these vaccines?
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VIRGINA
MASSEREY:
-No,
I don't
think that's the case.
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VIRGINA
MASSEREY:
Each country
has
the
responsibility
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VIRGINA
MASSEREY:
to ensure
access to the vaccine
for its
people,
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VIRGINA
MASSEREY:
and so is
taking
the
appropriate steps
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VIRGINA
MASSEREY:
alone, or
together with others,
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VIRGINA
MASSEREY:
to obtain
supply
agreements.
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VO:
-The
Confederation has budgeted
of 300
million for reservations.
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VO:
The delivery
date
remains unclear.
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VIRGINA
MASSEREY:
-We're going
to
protect the
public
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VIRGINA
MASSEREY:
according to
the number
of doses we
get.
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VIRGINA
MASSEREY:
We're
obviously going to
prioritize
the protection of
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VIRGINA
MASSEREY:
those more
at risk of
from this
disease.
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REPORTER:
-What are
the timescales?
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VIRGINA
MASSEREY:
- We can't
be very precise,
but in
theory,
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VIRGINA
MASSEREY:
we should receive
the first
doses of vaccine
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VIRGINA
MASSEREY
in the first
half of 2021
in
Switzerland.
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VO:
-Despite
these pre-orders,
rapid access
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VO:
to the
vaccine is
not
guaranteed.
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VO:
Three major problems
will slow
everything down.
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VO:
Explanation
by the expert
in
immunology,
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VO:
Professor
Giuseppe Pantaleo.
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PROFESSOR
GIUSEPPE PANTALEO:
-We can't
generate
on a large
scale
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PROFESSOR
GIUSEPPE PANTALEO:
the ten
billion doses,
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PROFESSOR
GIUSEPPE PANTALEO:
that will be
required for a
first
vaccination campaign.
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PROFESSOR
GIUSEPPE PANTALEO:
Today, most
companies believe
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PROFESSOR
GIUSEPPE PANTALEO:
that if a
vaccine
demonstrates
effectiveness,
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PROFESSOR
GIUSEPPE PANTALEO:
they will be
able to
produce one
billion doses
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PROFESSOR
GIUSEPPE PANTALEO:
by the end
of 2021.
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REPORTER:
-Late 2021?
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PROFESSOR
GIUSEPPE PANTALEO:
-End of
2021.
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VO:
-Second
problem:
the American
authorities
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VO:
have
accepted
reduced
effectiveness to
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VO:
validate the
vaccine
on an
emergency basis.
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VO:
It must
protect at least
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VO:
every other
person
who's
receiving the treatment.
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REPORTER:
Will 50%
efficiency be enough?
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PROFESSOR
GIUSEPPE PANTALEO:
-On the
basis of capacity
of
coronavirus transmission,
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PROFESSOR
GIUSEPPE PANTALEO:
an infected
person can
infect
between 5 and 6 people,
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PROFESSOR
GIUSEPPE PANTALEO:
it's a
little low, borderline.
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PROFESSOR
GIUSEPPE PANTALEO:
A vaccine
with 80% effectiveness
would be
more efficient.
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REPORTER:
-To stop the
chain?
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PROFESSOR
GIUSEPPE PANTALEO:
-To stop the
chain.
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VO:
-The last
problem:
public
acceptance.
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VO:
Yesterday,
there were
more than a thousand
people
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VO:
demonstrating
in Zurich
against the
vaccine
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VO:
and the
Confederation's
measures.
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PROTESTER 1:
- I'm not
anti-vaccine,
but this one
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PROTESTER 1:
they're
preparing for us,
it's a bomb.
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PROTESTER 2:
-I put what
I want
in my body!
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PROTESTER 3:
-They want
to
inoculate
the planet.
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VO:
-One of the
organizers
of the event
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VO:
refuses all
vaccines
against the
coronavirus.
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FRANÇOIS DE SIEBENTHAL:
-We'll form
groups of ten
and we'll
take a walk.
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VO:
-He
introduces himself
like an
alternative banker,
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VO:
non-party
politician
and without
a public mandate.
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VO:
He doesn’t
have
a scientific
background.
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FRANÇOIS DE SIEBENTHAL:
-There's no
way in hell
to convince
the Swiss
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FRANÇOIS DE SIEBENTHAL:
who don't
want to be vaccinated.
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FRANÇOIS DE SIEBENTHAL:
Our immune
system
is perfect.
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FRANÇOIS DE SIEBENTHAL:
We resist
against everything.
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FRANÇOIS DE SIEBENTHAL:
It's been
proven, there are
people with
a good immune system
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FRANÇOIS DE SIEBENTHAL:
who can
drink kilos of viruses
or bacteria
without getting sick!
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FRANÇOIS DE SIEBENTHAL:
-But
thousands have died from
coronavirus.
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FRANÇOIS DE SIEBENTHAL:
-No!
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FRANÇOIS DE SIEBENTHAL:
Many have
died
supposedly
from coronavirus
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FRANÇOIS DE SIEBENTHAL:
But somehow
there
are no more
deaths
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FRANCOIS DE
SIEBENTHAL:
from the flu
or pneumonia!
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FRANÇOIS DE SIEBENTHAL:
If you fall
down a flight
of stairs,
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FRANÇOIS DE SIEBENTHAL:
they're going
to say
that you
died of coronavirus!
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FRANÇOIS DE SIEBENTHAL:
The numbers
are rigged.
Across the
world!
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VO:
-This discourse
is getting
louder and louder.
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VO:
On social
networks,
François de
Siebenthal
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VO:
shares the
limelight
with a young
woman.
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VO:
Ema Krusi,
owner of a
shoe shop in
Geneva.
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EMA KRUSI:
-Our
pro-vaccine governments
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EMA KRUSI:
have
invested billions
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EMA KRUSI:
with our
money,
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EMA KRUSI:
are putting
the needle
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EMA KRUSI:
in their own
skin!
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EMA KRUSI:
And we're
looking
forward to
seeing the result.
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EMA KRUSI:
Have a great
weekend,
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EMA KRUSI:
and see you
soon!
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VO:
- Faced with
these arguments
Swiss researchers
are adamant:
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VO:
the vaccine
is the best solution
to stop the
pandemic.
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PROFESSOR
GIUSEPPE PANTALEO:
-It is
essential
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PROFESSOR
GIUSEPPE PANTALEO:
to eliminate
the virus,
the spread
and contamination.
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PROFESSOR
GIUSEPPE PANTALEO:
The vaccine
is
the ultimate
solution.
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PROFESSOR
GIUSEPPE PANTALEO:
There is no
medication
that can
eliminate the pandemic.
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FRANÇOIS DE SIEBENTHAL:
-It's the
worst possible thing!
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FRANÇOIS DE SIEBENTHAL:
They want to
force the vaccine
on us at all
costs.
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FRANÇOIS DE SIEBENTHAL:
Obligatory
vaccination
is a
disaster.
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FRANÇOIS DE SIEBENTHAL:
There are
over
200 toxic
chemicals
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FRANÇOIS DE SIEBENTHAL:
in these
vaccines:
aluminum,
mercury--
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REPORTER:
-These
vaccines are
made to save
lives.
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FRANÇOIS DE SIEBENTHAL:
-No, no. The
end does
not justify
the means.
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VO:
-For now,
no mandatory
vaccination
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VO:
has been
announced
by the
Confederation.
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VO:
As for the
vaccine's safety,
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VO:
it's
controlled by Swissmedic,
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VO:
the Federal
Supervisory
Authority.
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PROTESTERS:
-Lyoba, oh
freedom
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VO:
-That's not
going to
stop these
activists.
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VO:
A new
demonstration is planned
in two
weeks' time in Geneva.
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VO:
According to
a recent poll,
opposition
is rising.
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VO:
63% of the population
would accept
the future vaccine
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VO:
but 25%
would oppose it.
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VO:
Figures that
come as
no surprise
this bioethicist
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VO:
from the
University of Geneva.
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SAMIA
HURST-MAJNO:
-The "vaccino-hesitation",
as we call
it,
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SAMIA
HURST-MAJNO:
is a more
frequent phenomenon
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SAMIA
HURST-MAJNO:
than actual
opposition
to the
vaccine.
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SAMIA
HURST-MAJNO:
And now it's
really important
for the
message to be clear.
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SAMIA
HURST-MAJNO:
I'd take it
tomorrow.
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SAMIA
HURST-MAJNO:
Even with an
unknown
residual
risk.
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SAMIA
HURST-MAJNO:
The risk of
coronavirus is
well known
and it's not low.
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SAMIA
HURST-MAJNO:
We need to
weigh the risk
of the
disease and the vaccine
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SAMIA
HURST-MAJNO:
when
deciding whether
or not to
get vaccinated.
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VO:
-An
individual choice
With global
consequences.
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VO:
The vaccine
works
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VO:
only if a
large part of the
population
agrees to take it.
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REPORTER:
-Is it the
silver bullet?
Is it the
only solution?
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SAMIA
HURST-MAJNO:
-This is the
solution that will
come to us
the fastest.
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SAMIA
HURST-MAJNO:
If we look
at the alternatives,
it's either
wait until
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SAMIA
HURST-MAJNO:
a sufficient
amount of the
population
has had the virus,
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SAMIA
HURST-MAJNO:
but that
will mean
lots of
deaths.
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SAMIA
HURST-MAJNO:
The other
alternative
is to remain
confined.
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SAMIA
HURST-MAJNO:
We change
our whole culture
to avoid
contact.
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SAMIA
HURST-MAJNO:
Living with
this virus,
without the
illness means
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SAMIA
HURST-MAJNO:
no social
contact,
no close
contact.
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SAMIA
HURST-MAJNO:
Protecting
ourselves almost
like we did
in the spring.
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SAMIA
HURST-MAJNO:
Or how we are
protecting
ourselves
now, but long term.
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SAMIA
HURST-MAJNO:
And that's
not really a better
solution
than having a vaccine
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SAMIA
HURST-MAJNO:
which would
allow us to go back
to life as
it was before.
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VO:
-Between the
fears and
hopes for
the vaccine,
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VO:
either way,
we will have to
wait many
months
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VO:
before being
able to choose
whether or
not to be vaccinated.