The
Last Soviet Artist Coded Transcript
Time |
Speaker
/ Type |
Text |
00:00:27 |
Victoria
Lomasko |
I think that the last Soviet artist can only be a person who has
caught the end of the Soviet era.. It’s not at all possible to be the last Soviet artist if you don’t
remember anything about the Soviet period, because then for you it's just one
of the historical eras. And you can only work with other people's memories
from the archive. |
00:00:52 |
Victoria
Lomasko |
I look at younger artists who are working on this topic. And I see
that for them there is a clear end to this era which has clear and distinct
features which is not interesting to them. |
00:01:28 |
Victoria
Lomasko |
On the one hand it is viewed as a terrible time of depression,
control, the destruction of dissent, the Stalin gulag time and they want to
disown this very disgusting story. |
00:01:49 |
Victoria
Lomasko |
On the other hand it is a patriotic story, of a great empire that we
have lost. And in order to feel it as something, that is neither black nor white,
neither good nor bad, but as it actually was, you have to find it and feel it
in yourself, that at the same time this control is permanent and at the same
time there is this feeling you are in this kindergarten |
00:02:21 |
Victoria
Lomasko |
You were guaranteed to have education, a job, there was housing for
all. Everything was of a very low standard, but nevertheless, you would
never fall out of this society. |
00:02:38 |
Victoria
Lomasko |
You would even receive some medical care for free. I don’t know whether this is good or bad, but if you were born in
Soviet times, you can't escape from this experience. This experience is very specific because we were born in the country
of realized or unfulfilled utopia. In a very strange country where social
life was arranged as a great social experiment. |
00:03:18 |
Victoria
Lomasko |
And.. I don’t know… Sometimes I’m proud that I’ve found such times, sometimes I want to
get rid of it. But it’s not in my power anyway, and everything that happens next in
Russia I see through this experience. |
00:03:40 |
Victoria
Lomasko |
Many of the younger generation idealize leftist ideas, but if you were
already born in the stronghold of ‘victorious socialism’, then you cannot
idealize them like that. And to be the last Soviet artist means to be immersed in this complexity
and understand all its shades. |
00:04:05 |
Title |
‘The
Last Soviet Artist’ |
00:04:08 |
Victoria
Lomasko |
From
my early memories I have two kinds which stand out. These connect my childhood with
a feeling of complete global control. That I belong to a society that completely controls me. |
00:04:30 |
Victoria
Lomasko |
And… this sensation of continuous unjustified cruelty and rudeness since
kindergarten since school. And… For example, I remember kindergarten where teachers were very rude to
us, and they shouted at us, and punished us. |
00:000:4:57 |
Victoria
Lomasko |
And… Once I noticed that there was a big hole in the kindergarten’s fence
that you could climb through, and I escaped from school out on to the street and I just stood there
and it felt great. |
00:05:15 |
Victoria
Lomasko |
I thought that I could go home, or go wherever I wanted to, although
in principal I didn’t really have anywhere to go . It was just enough to go beyond this cage. Then this sensation is something which has repeated throughout my
whole adult life. Wanting to go beyond this social cell. |
00:05:46 |
Crowd |
‘Stop
lying to us’ |
00:06:27 |
Victoria
Lomasko |
‘
We tried to walk now but today walking in the centre of Moscow is prohibited. It practically amounts to
revolution. Today looks like the beginning of
a military dictatorship. |
00:06:47 |
Victoria
Lomasko |
People around us are discussing
that they tried to get through Pushkin Square but everyone is detained and
being questioned if they’re here for the rally or not. They are warning everyone that you
can’t walk here today. Of course, the question for me as
an artist is how to make books about social life in Russia like my book “Other
Russians”. Even if I just stop or get out my
sketchbook they could detain me. |
00:07:23 |
Title |
‘Victoria’s
first commercial exhibition, London, Edel Assanti Gallery 2019’ |
00:07:30 |
Victoria
Lomasko |
For me, without doubt, it is
important to do commercial projects, because they allow me to be free. And… Well, in general, money allows you
to feel free. Money allows you to choose. |
00:07:48 |
Victoria
Lomasko |
I told you the situation, when I
came to finishing my book (Other Russias) When I was finishing the book, I
had long run out of money. And I didn’t even have enough
money to buy felt-tip pens. And my camera broke and I felt it
was all over. And… I tried to sell my drawings on the
Internet for money to buy materials for work. But then no one in Russia bought
them, only foreigners That is when I realised it is impossible to only do
socio-cultural art in Russia. |
00:08:31 |
Title |
‘The
Center for Prison Reform’ |
00:08:40 |
Valeryi
Sergeev |
At the moment we only really have the opportunity to engage in legal
support for prisoners. We respond to letters from convicted prisoners, and prisoners who have
yet to be convicted who are asking for our help with legal advice and information
on how to review their sentence or appeal the administration’s actions in the
detention centres and prisons. And in the prisons they do not
have this access, so in this sense we are in demand among prisoners. |
00:09:10 |
Victoria
Lomasko |
Do you remember anything about our first trip to the colony together
when you called me? Do you remember anything? |
00:09:18 |
Natalya
Dziadko |
They invited you, they just took you, then … |
00:09:20 |
Victoria
Lomasko |
What do you mean? |
00:09:21 |
Natalya
Dziadko |
Back then it was much easier… much easier to get into the prison colony, than it is now. Even when our relations with the system were simpler, you could still
feel the tension, and when you enter the prison, you enter some kind of
barrier. Regardless you could feel the tension and still you go to jail, you
cross some kind of barrier. |
00:09:37 |
Victoria
Lomasko |
Do you remember? I immediately started drawing there and no one
stopped me. |
00:09:40 |
Natalya
Dziadko |
And no one stopped you, they welcomed it. In fact, what year was it?
2009? |
00:09:48 |
Victoria
Lomasko |
Yes Probably. |
00:09:50 |
Natalya
Dziadko |
Yes, 2009, two thousand and nine. By this time, we had been visiting Mozhaisk colony for almost 10
years. Well, Mozhaisk colony a little less, but in general visiting the
colonies with this educational mission. |
00:10:04 |
Victoria
Lomasko |
For me the main reason to go there was because the
boys and girls who really liked to draw came to the lessons. And it might have possibly ended
had some of the prisoners not come up to me and said “I also like to draw.” “When will you come next time? ” They even said to me: “And the
next time you come, what will we do?” And then when I started to visit
after each lesson they would as ask: “What will we do next?” They put me in a situation where I
couldn’t bear tell them that there wouldn’t be a next time. |
00:10:52 |
Victoria
Lomasko |
Do you remember the pupil’s reaction, when they received the calendars
we drew with them? |
00:10:59 |
Natalya
Dziadko |
Well they were shocked, everyone was shocked and it was incredibly
pleasurable. This is the most important thing,
that there is some kind of evidence that they are worth something, that
someone cares |
00:11:19 |
Victoria
Lomasko |
It is so interesting to me that my book hasn’t been published in
Russia. And they’ve recently told me that it couldn’t be published, because
it was violating so many new laws. |
00:11:36 |
Victoria
Lomasko |
The social stories that I draw in
Russia, they do not need colour, because even in reality there is no colour. For
example, beige or grey courtrooms, some faded corridors. Or in winter when everything is
black and white. |
00:12:09 |
Victoria
Lomasko |
In our life in Russia there is not
a lot of colour. And every time that I paint with
colour, it is always a conscious choice. It means that this story, these
feelings cannot be conveyed by a line, only by a spot. And more often these are some of
more emotional and mystical things. |
00:13:57 |
Victoria
Lomasko |
In these photos I often see myself with a chicken. This was my chicken, I raised it from a little chick. She was my best friend. I played with her a lot and she used to chase after me like a dog. |
00:14:20 |
Victoria
Lomasko |
Then one day my parents told me that the chicken ran away. I was so surprised and wondered, why would she run away because she
loved me so much? On that same day, my parents fed me with a chicken soup. The soup was tasteless and the chicken was very tough. Only in the evening did I realise that they had killed my chicken and
fed me with her. |
00:14:55 |
Announcer |
‘Moscow – Tovarnaya’ The next stop is Kalitniki |
00:15:01 |
Victoria
Lomasko |
We are going to Serpukhov. The journey takes two hours. Serpukhov is located on the outskirts of the Moscow region. It is an ancient city, formerly a small merchant’s town. |
00:15:21 |
Victoria
Lomasko |
I want to talk about my impressions from yesterday’s rally. Although we were only there physically, it was still frightening
enough, Because being present was enough for OMON (SPECIAL POLICE UNIT) and
the Russian national guard to seize, beat, arrest, take mobile phones and
take finger prints. All this felt terrible. |
00:15:53 |
Passenger |
Here on Academican Sakharov street? |
00:15:57 |
Victoria
Lomasko |
No, the rally wasn’t on Academican
Sakharov street. They suggested doing it there in an enclosure, but people
decided to go out onto the boulevard ring and just spill out into the
boulevards. They detained almost everyone. But how can they distinguish those
who... |
00:16:17 |
Passenger |
I see.. |
00:16:18 |
Victoria
Lomasko |
Those who went to rally and those
who are simply going about their business. |
00:16:22 |
Victoria
Lomasko |
Yesterday I spoke with people of
all generations, with the young adults, twenty years old or so. And they said that my generation
has missed an opportunity and we must live in this country. But we cannot live here like this. Many spoke about emigration. |
00:16:50 |
Victoria
Lomasko |
Some are comparing this era with
Soviet times, because they also controlled everything. |
00:16:57 |
Passenger |
Passenger: There is no comparison - It was a country of scientists,
engineers and workers and now it is a country for the merchants, and security
guards. So why compare it? |
00:17:10 |
Victoria
Lomasko |
There was control. But it was
still... |
00:17:12 |
Passenger |
- No there was no such control |
00:17:14 |
Victoria
Lomasko |
but they were still investing in
science, education, medicine... |
00:17:18 |
Passenger |
In production, it was in
production! There was no such pettiness. There were no fences at the stops. |
00:17:45 |
Victoria
Lomasko |
Serpukhov reminds me of a passage
from the stories of Zamyatin when he describes pre-revolutionary Russia and
the provincial places. Such places in which time seems to
have stopped, where they are in their own kind of mercy. |
00:18:06 |
Victoria
Lomasko |
In these small, dusty, cosy
streets, this city that you can get around in a few hours from beginning to
end. |
00:18:18 |
|
Serpukhov has such interesting
landscapes, with hills, ravines and there are churches on the hills and houses between
the ravines. And there are hens, dogs, cows and sheep. |
00:18:42 |
Victoria
Lomasko |
On the one hand, it‘s all very
touching, but on the other hand, it takes such a big step to move from this
small world into the wider world. But my whole life is about this pursuit, to see what
the wider world is like. |
00:19:10 |
Inna |
Hello, I’m Inna, a native of the
city of Serpukhov. I’m standing on Lenin Square, near Lenin’s monument. Every year on this square we went
to parades, on the 9th of May and 7th of November and these holidays were
always fun. We carried banners. On May 9th, there would be a parade and people would march,
they walked with banners and honoured the dead. I really want those times to
return. And I really want to be under the flag of the Soviet Union
of Socialist Republics I give all my regards to my friends and comrades. |
00:20:11 |
Victoria
Lomasko |
My father often painted this
place. And why did he do it? Because, in Soviet times, churches
were either turned into clubs, culture houses or into some kind of public
place or even destroyed. Now all the churches and monasteries in the city have been
restored and are in excellent condition. |
00:20:42 |
Victoria
Lomasko |
And... the priests are some of the
richest people in the city. But all the Soviet plants and
factories that were in the city were completely destroyed, so everything has
changed in the course of one life. Even less than one life. As a child, I remember these ruins,
which at the time seemed as though they would never last this long. |
00:21:14 |
Victoria
Lomasko |
Now I have to look at the ruins of
Soviet factories instead. To be honest, I would prefer to
look at the ruins of churches instead of the ruins of factories. |
00:21:30 |
Victoria
Lomasko |
I was specifically looking for a
place in Serpukhov, a symbol that represented that the Soviet
era is well and truly gone, that this history is almost half-forgotten. And I thought... This place is the perfect symbol,
It reads... |
00:22:00 |
Victoria
Lomasko |
“No one is forgotten. Nothing is
forgotten” But in reality everyone is forgotten. It looks so interesting, you can see the banners, when we
celebrate the victory of the second world war. But it looks so strange to see all
these happy people among the factory ruins. |
00:22:30 |
Victoria
Lomasko |
It is very difficult for me to
break free from Serpukhov, and to break the cycle of my parent’s life. Of course, I consider my Moscow
apartment as my home. It’s modest, but it’s mine, and
everything is how I like it to be, and not how my parents expect it
to be. |
00:23:05 |
Victoria
Lomasko |
And... If you are born in Russia, it is easy to repeat your parent’s
life. My mother is an ordinary Soviet
woman who had a maximum programme. Get married, have a baby and she
did it. She wasn’t sure if it would make
her happy. |
00:23:33 |
Victoria
Lomasko |
And my father tried to rebel, but
it was a senseless rebellion without any results. Just a lot of talk about how he
hates power, and he created several works criticizing the authorities. But to me this is not living your
life as you want or being happy. |
00:24:02 |
Victoria
Lomasko |
Being an artist was not my
decision. It was the decision of my father,
who is an artist loser himself. He wanted to be a genius, but
didn’t do anything to achieve this, he didn’t go to study in Moscow. He worked at a factory and served
the authorities as an artist-decorator. He created Soviet propaganda, but
of course he did do something for himself, but not enough to become a major
artist. And so because of this, he decided
a child would be born. This child would realise all his ideas and dreams. |
00:24:54 |
Victoria
Lomasko |
During my childhood, I didn’t have
many toys, but instead, canvases, brushes, paints, pencils, felt-tip pens and
albums. And... domestic violence from my father
was a normal thing. He was only kind or affectionate
to me when I painted. I think Russian and Soviet
families are used to living in some state of control and unjustified cruelty. I wasn’t shocked that my parents
behaved with me like this. |
00:25:49 |
Valentin
Lomasko |
They used to sing a song... “Kok (type of hairstyle) glistens
with hair cream, I am wearing a fashionable jacket, But it’s not a big deal
friends that the jacket is a little too long. It’s
no coincidence that I am known as a hipster. It’s natural, like this. |
00:26:05 |
Valentin
Lomasko |
So these are two diptychs which
are called, “The symbol of time” in Soviet times. The first work is from 1976. The other work is from 1980 when I
had no canvases. Since childhood I have never liked
Lenin. Nor the fact they turned him into
a Pharaoh So this diptych is made for the
purpose of depicting everything, those who believe in Buddha, or Russian
orthodox icons. But they made Lenin into an icon to pray to. And when I brought it to the art
council in Podolsk and the art council in
Moscow, they were afraid and all the FSB and KGB were all corrupt. And they said if you bring it
again we will imprison you for ten years. |
00:27:08 |
Valentin
Lomasko |
This worked is called ”Clownery”. It’s about the influence of
Putin’s power and how he made a symbol, rather than the hammer and sickle, he
made an imperial eagle. I was always against this and have spoken out about it, because
this eagle with the crowns is a symbol of imperial power. Here is Lenin square. There never used to be police dogs during Soviet times, never on
the parades on the 1st of May, on Oktyabrskaya. Here
you can see the dog. The
priests are standing here. There
never used to be any dogs. On
the rostrum it reads “Glory
to the labourer” I
didn’t call it the 1st of May, nor Oktyabrskaya but April the 1st. |
00:28:13 |
Valentin
Lomasko |
This piece was not done for
nudity. Its content is explained in the
text at the top. It reads: “To independent Russia, a power
independent of the people” There was nowhere for women to
earn money, so they began to engage in prostitution. And this text reads... Actually no one can guess it, only
three people were able to guess it. “Not to have a hundred rubles, but to have a hundred whores, or
prostitutes” In short, they cannot earn money,
so they have to work. |
00:28:58 |
Valentin
Lomasko |
I was always a freethinker. During Soviet times, and after. So I made this new painting about
Lenin. And I had a text hanging beneath
this portrait. The text reads: “Now my painting of Lenin is more alive than all living
things.” In Soviet times I spoke openly
about how Lenin, should be thrown out of the mausoleum and I was not afraid of the KGB. And they should not have arranged
monuments on Red Square for members of the Politburo and for generals. Red Square was not made for this,
it was made for celebrations. Not for burial. And they made it like a cemetery. |
00:29:49 |
Victoria
Lomasko |
I don’t think my father could be
considered the last Soviet artist In his style he is a Soviet
artist, he lived as a Soviet artist, he served the Soviet government. But some of his arguments are not
Soviet. And maybe in some ways I am more
like the last Soviet artist. I am for Lenin being in the
mausoleum. It seems to me that Lenin is a great historical figure. |
00:30:25 |
Victoria
Lomasko |
I like this landscape, where the
pre-revolutionary churches and Soviet ruins are one. In my childhood, I spent a lot of
time here, painting this landscape on this mountain and all the surroundings. |
00:30:46 |
Victoria
Lomasko |
The city is very small. There are not many places where you can draw. And this is one of the more
interesting places. I painted it during childhood and
also when I was a teenager. I also drew it at University and
then in London for the exhibition De La Sainte. |
00:31:09 |
Victoria
Lomasko |
I would sit on this mountain, and
watch the birds flying... And I would want to fly away with
them. Because even back then this city
was too small and boring for me. It seemed to me that here you can
live your life as a dream, a very quick and short dream. And before you realise it, old age
already has come. And all this life I sat on this
mountain, in this ravine, walked between these churches. |
00:31:52 |
Victoria
Lomasko |
And nothing happened. And... for me to take my steps from this place to Europe, to England,
and to America was a huge effort. It took all my strength. |
00:32:15 |
Victoria
Lomasko |
And... I’m not married, I have no kids,
but if anyone asked me to choose again when I was a teenager on this mountain
what would I prefer? To live here with a husband and
child or to conquer America with my art, I would firstly say, I want to be an
individual, and to change. I want to move through space
freely, and to know this world... |
00:33:00 |
Victoria
Lomasko |
And now, just like before, like
Serpukhov, this flag has become a little boring for me. It is like an anchor, preventing
me from moving on. And I don’t want to be just a
Soviet person. I do not want to become a hero, or
a heroine similar to Zoe Kosmodemyanskaya. I do not want to accomplish
anything for the sake of any system, or someone else’s ideology. I want to achieve things for my
own sake. |
00:33:42 |
Victoria
Lomasko |
Those feats will allow me to be
happy. And this flag is holding me back
now. This Serpukhov is holding me back,
and I already want to go further. Russia is not enough for me, neither is this post-Soviet space. The whole world I want it to be
mine, I
am not a Soviet woman. I
am not a Russian woman. I
am a human of the world. I
am pretty sad to leave this flag behind. At
the same time it is necessary, so that something new can appear. |
00:34:42 |
Title |
The Last Soviet Artist |
00:34:45 |
Title |
A film by Geraint Rhys |
00:34:49 |
Title |
Filmed, Edited and Scored by Geraint Rhys |
00:34:51 |
Title |
Translation Tuyana Atanova Alina Skorohoda Nikolay Boloshnev Anastasia Osadchaya |
00:34:54 |
Title |
A special thanks to Victoria Lomasko Nikolay Boloshnev Natalya Dziadko Valeryi Sergeev Valentin Iosifovich Lomasko Galina Semenovna Lomasko |
00:34:57 |
Title |
Thanks to the following for
permission to use their work: Photo: ‘Daughter or Artist
Decorator’, Lee Baxter HOME Manchester Photos: Edel Assanti, Studio Will
Amlot Additonal footage: Yan Katelevskiy |