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Road
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The world is watching on in
shock as Putin's army invades Ukraine. Despite months of Russian military
build-up on Ukraine's borders, many thought Putin would never dare to try and
crush his neighbour's independence with military might. Now these two countries,
with a shared history spanning centuries, are fighting each other in the
streets of Ukrainian cities. How did it come to this? In the weeks leading up to
the invasion, Foreign Correspondent explores both sides of this dangerous
conflict. Reporter David Lipson
travels across Ukraine to find a country whose identity has been forged in
the heat of the eight-year war between Ukraine and Russian-backed separatists
occupying regions in the east. Former Moscow correspondent
Eric Campbell works with a local Russian crew to get rare access inside the
separatist region. He speaks to locals whose loyalties lies with Russia and
who believe Ukrainians are Nazis. Starting in the capital
Kyiv, Lipson meets a young mother who's bearing the scars of the ongoing war
in eastern Ukraine. Ukraine has lost 14,000 lives in the conflict that began
in 2014. "At that moment we
already understood who the enemy was and we just wanted
to stop him from going further into our land," says Viktoria, a former
soldier whose partner was killed by a landmine. "I am sure this war has
definitely changed the country." As Lipson travels east
towards the frontline, he discovers just how much the country has changed.
Close to the separatist region there are destroyed villages, their residents
living under constant shelling. One farmer has been cut off from his
farmland. The young have fled. The old remain. "My heart aches every
time I turn on TV, for our soldiers. What did we do to deserve this?"
cries one old woman, who is caring for her blind husband. "I was born in
1942, during the war, and I have to witness it again, the ninth year in a
row." In Mariupol on the east
coast, also close to the frontline, Lipson finds a city increasingly divided.
Pro-Russians are suspicious of the Ukrainian government, pro-Ukrainians are
preparing to take up arms. Inside the separatist
region, we meet a young woman who says she will never live under Ukrainian
rule. "We can't live in the same country as the Nazis. We can't forgive
all that we experienced through the years," says Alexandra. Days later, she evacuates
into Russia, as Putin's propaganda machine bombards the region with stories
of Ukrainian saboteurs and aggression. The courage and
determination of ordinary Ukrainians to stand and fight the Russian invaders
has stunned the world. But will it be enough to save their country? |
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Episode
intro. |
Music |
00:10 |
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DAVID LIPSON, REPORTER: On the frozen ground where the armies of
Napoleon and Hitler met their match, war has erupted. The most
significant European military offensive since World War Two.
Russia’s
forces have seized territory and key strategic positions across neighbouring
Ukraine. Now they’re battling for control of the
major cities. |
00:21 |
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DENIS PROKOPENKO,
AZOV BATTALION: We'll fight in the forests, on the sea, in the fields,
wherever the enemy is, we'll fight them. |
00:51 |
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DAVID LIPSON,
REPORTER: It’s a hauntingly familiar
play for power and territory that could shape the continent -- and the world
-- for generations. |
00:57 |
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GALINA
SHKURATOVA: I was born in 1942 during the war. I have to witness it again. |
01:06 |
Super: |
DAVID LIPSON,
REPORTER: In the days before the
invasion, we travelled across Ukraine to track the path to war. |
01:10 |
Title:
ROAD TO WAR |
Music |
01:21 |
Map.
Ukraine/Russia |
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01:27 |
Civil
defence drills |
DAVID LIPSON,
REPORTER: We arrive as Ukraine is
counting down to war. In civil defence drills across the country, ordinary
people are learning combat skills. They’re prepared to fight to the death,
with determination eight years in the making. But there aren’t enough guns
for everyone. |
01:37 |
Map.
Ukraine/Russia. Highlight on Kiev |
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02:02 |
Return
Alive Foundation volunteers pack weapons and supplies |
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02:10 |
CU
'fuck u putin' lanyard |
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02:19 |
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In the capital
Kyiv, workers at the Return Alive Foundation are packing gear for soldiers
who’ve been fighting Russian-backed rebels since 2014. |
02:22 |
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ANDRIY: We need
all this to equip our army. |
02:33 |
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DAVID LIPSON,
REPORTER: Russia has been funding and
arming separatists in the eastern provinces of Donetsk and Luhansk. ANDRIY: I’m going to the east
tomorrow. |
02:36 |
Andriy
interview |
Our aid lifts
their fighting spirits and they say to the enemy
“Welcome! We're from Ukraine and we'll show you a thing or two!” |
02:46 |
Viktoria,
Andriy and others pack supplies |
DAVID LIPSON,
REPORTER: This gear’s been
crowd-funded by volunteers like Viktoria Dvoretska, herself a veteran of the
conflict. |
02:56 |
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Music |
03:06 |
Lipson
visits Viktoria, looking at photos |
"So
this is you?" VIKTORIA: This is me. I'm 21 years old, it
was the summer 2014. I went wearing sneakers. No one thought it would be such
a big war. No one thought the war would be real. |
03:13 |
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DAVID LIPSON, REPORTER: A lot
has changed since then, hasn’t it? VIKTORIA: Well, I don't look
that young anymore. A lot has changed; eight years have passed. Everything
has changed in these past eight years. The country has changed, the people
have changed, we have changed. |
03:29 |
Viktoria
with son |
DAVID LIPSON, REPORTER: During three years
on the front line, Viktoria was wounded several times. And her partner,
Anton, was killed by a land mine. |
03:51 |
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VIKTORIA: I spent six month
in a hospital for health issues, including depression. |
04:03 |
Viktoria
dressing son |
"Look at
Mum. Here you go. That’s it. Handsome aren’t you." There's a saying that children decide when
to be born. Ivan came as a big surprise. He has
changed my life. Now I clearly realise what and who I live for. |
04:11 |
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"Are you going to carry it yourself? You’re a good
boy." |
04:37 |
Kyiv GVs |
Music
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04:45 |
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DAVID
LIPSON, REPORTER: The conflict began
in 2014 when mass protests in Kyiv toppled Ukraine’s pro-Russian President.
In retaliation, Putin seized Crimea, and backed the separatists in the east.
Since then, Ukraine’s western aligned government has fought to wrest back
control of its territory. |
04:49 |
Driving
to Mariupol |
We want to see the
frontline for ourselves to get a deeper understanding of the causes of the
Ukraine-Russia conflict. As we get closer to the separatist areas, the
military is on alert. Ukrainian cruise missile units are on the move. |
05:13 |
Map
showing location of Mariupol and Donetsk |
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05:31 |
Mariupol
GVs |
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05:39 |
Mariupol
ice skating |
When we arrive in
city of Mariupol it looks calm, but it’s vulnerable. In 2014, pro-Russian
militants easily took control of the city, but were eventually forced out. |
05:42 |
Mariupol
port/Lipson to camera by sea |
It’s a run down,
industrial port city on the sea of Azov. And it’s
wedged between Russian territory. About 20 kilometres that way is the front
line where the fighting grinds on and beyond that, the Russian border. And
along this coastline is Crimea, which was annexed by Russia in 2014. If
Vladimir Putin wants to join the two, he needs to come right through
Mariupol. |
06:05 |
Mariupol GVs |
Music |
06:28 |
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DAVID
LIPSON, REPORTER: Around half a
million people live here – it’s roughly an even split between Ukrainians and
ethnic Russians. Remnants of the separatist conflict are all around. DIANA BERG: You don’t see any threat around, |
06:33 |
Diana
interview |
because the city just started living with
this threat. It’s integrated in us.
And that’s it. There is a threat. |
06:51 |
Playground |
DAVID LIPSON, REPORTER: Diana
Berg came to Mariupol after fleeing Donetsk – around the time it fell to the
Russian backed forces. |
07:01 |
Diana
interview |
DIANA BERG: And we had to just leave for a
while. We thought for a week. Yeah. That's it. That’s how we left.
DAVID LIPSON, REPORTER: And that was eight years ago? |
07:11 |
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DIANA BERG: Yeah, that's how I just left my home and I never came back. |
07:41 |
Dog
walking, park |
Music |
07:28 |
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DAVID LIPSON,
REPORTER: She made a new life here – but
the conflict has followed her. |
07:29 |
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DIANA BERG: Some Ukrainians have only
started understanding it, realising and feeling it. |
07:34 |
Diana
interview |
Feeling what we felt. Now it's like all
Ukraine is feeling the same. And maybe this is something that will unite us
more. |
07:41 |
Mariupol GVs |
DAVID LIPSON,
REPORTER: Mariupol’s sprawling steel
mill used to employ some 60,000 people. These days there are 15,000. |
07:54 |
At
home with Vladimir and wife, afternoon tea |
One of them is
Vladimir Khabarov who supports Russia. |
08:03 |
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DAVID: "Yes,
please. Um… maybe this one? … looks great. Thank you." VLADIMIR: "A
small piece, just a small piece." DAVID: "Oh,
that’s huge!" DAVID LIPSON,
REPORTER: Vladimir fondly remembers
the communist years, before Ukraine’s embrace of western capitalism, and what
the factory calls – “optimisation”. |
08:12 |
Vladimir interview |
VLADIMIR: Money, money, no other way. But
education used to be free. At school, I didn’t need to chip in, same when I
studied for my trade. Everything was free. Now you have to
pay for everything. My father
lived in Stalin’s Russia. He said kindergartens were free. |
08:34 |
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DAVID LIPSON, REPORTER: In
recent years, few here dare to be so openly pro-Russian.
The
consequences can land you in prison, or worse. |
09:02 |
Vladimir
into car and driving |
VLADIMIR: In 2014 I came out of the factory,
four armed men attacked me, pointed a gun at me and threw me in the trunk of
my car. I was bleeding from my ears,
with a swollen black eye. I was barely standing. My ribs were broken, and my
leg was hurt. They took me for an interrogation. This is how I was set up.
They wanted to put me in jail. DAVID LIPSON,
REPORTER: Vladimir spent 18 months behind bars – accused of a plot to
storm a Ukrainian military base – before being released due to a lack of
evidence. He now has little time for those in charge
of Ukraine. VLADIMIR: Those in Parliament say they are
so nice, that they are a democracy. |
09:12 |
Vladimir interview
in home |
So why were two or three TV channels shut
down? Why is the main opposition leader under house arrest? |
10:04 |
Steel
mill GV |
DAVID LIPSON, REPORTER: In
this cauldron of contested ideology, communism
isn’t the only historical throwback. |
10:12 |
Azov
Regiment members at memorial |
The Russians say
there are Nazis here, too. A day of memorial
for fallen comrades. Amongst the
soldiers here, members of the Azov Regiment, a group of fierce fighters, with
a reputation for hard-core nationalism. Denis Prokopenko
is the local Commander. |
10:22 |
Denis
interview |
DENIS PROKOPENKO: We will fight in the forests, on the sea,
in the fields, wherever the enemy is, we'll find them there and fight them.
The Ukrainian nation is unbreakable. The Muscovites won’t break our spine. |
10:49 |
Azov
Regiment members |
DAVID LIPSON,
REPORTER: On their arms they wear the
letters – NI – to signify the words National Idea. Any resemblance to
neo-Nazi iconography, they say is pure coincidence, driven by Russian
propaganda. |
11:03 |
Denis
interview |
DENIS PROKOPENKO: That's why today, unfortunately,
our unit does not get any humanitarian aid or lethal weapons. We don’t get any training from our western
partners. |
11:18 |
Azov
Regiment members at memorial |
DAVID LIPSON,
REPORTER: Despite its status as a
global pariah, the once volunteer unit has proved its worth in battle, and is now a regiment in the Ukrainian armed
forces. |
11:29 |
Interview
with volunteer |
AZOV VOLUNTEER: In moments like this, the community and the
army come together and this is a sign of our
country’s integrity. |
11:44 |
Driving
to Gnotovo |
DAVID LIPSON, REPORTER: Just
30 minutes out of town, we’re on the frontline. Here, the fighting never
stopped. We’re heading to
Gnotovo, a village well within firing range of the pro-Russian separatists. |
11:58 |
Vox
pops with Gnotovo residents |
YULIYA: What’s it like living here? MAN IN BEANIE: Here? It’s like hell, I tell
you. They keep shelling, all the time. |
12:24 |
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WOMAN AT BUS STOP: It used to be very good here. We used to
have a lot of young people. Some still live here, but many have gone abroad.
They go to Czech, Hungary, Estonia, Poland… to Russia as well. There's only old people here now. |
12:36 |
Sergiy
interview |
SERGIY PRIKHODKO:
Now it's more or less quiet. Before, they were
constantly shooting, especially at night and early in the morning. |
12:57 |
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DAVID LIPSON,
REPORTER: Sergiy Prikhodko is cut off
from his farmland, which lies in separatist held territory.
His
home has been hit several times. |
13:05 |
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SERGIY PRIKHODKO:
We hear the shells. They fall with a specific whistle. We can even
distinguish between 120mm and 80mm and others. |
13:14 |
Sergiy
shows cellar |
I hid my grandchildren in this
cellar. The hatch up there would tremble all over. Why would I be scared? I’m sorry
for my children and grandchildren. This is my wife’s compote, preserved
veggies, cucumbers, here are cherries, tomatoes, apple juice. We do
everything ourselves. |
13:27 |
Galina's
on street |
DAVID LIPSON,
REPORTER: A few houses along, we meet Galina
Shkuratova. She lives next door to a bombed-out home which hasn’t been
touched since a stray shell killed her neighbour. She and her blind, elderly
husband were lucky to survive the blast. |
13:55 |
Galina
interview by bombed house |
GALINA SHKURATOVA: All the windows were
blown out. Can you imagine the sound? I wanted to go and get him, I can’t stand it. Everything was peaceful here, it
was delightful, and what now? No kids are laughing in the street, no life.
I’m crying for everyone. My heart aches for our soldiers every time I turn on
TV. What did we do to deserve this? I was born in 1942, in the war. Now I have to witness it again, ninth year in a row. |
14:11 |
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Music |
15:02 |
Albert's
house |
DAVID LIPSON,
REPORTER: Before returning to Mariupol we’ve been invited to dinner in a nearby village.
|
15:1 |
Dinner
with Albert and boys |
DAUGHTER: "Go
to your grandfather and kiss him." DAVID LIPSON: It’s the home of military chaplain, Albert
Homyak. Over the years, Albert has taken in 13
orphan boys. Now, he’s a grandad. |
15:15 |
Albert
says Grace |
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15:44 |
Discussion
at table |
On this night,
after eight years of conflict, the threat of a much bigger war is under serious
discussion. |
15:51 |
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BOY: "I heard people say if you see a
soldier, he can shoot you dead. |
15:58 |
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BOY 2: "Vanya, could you pass me the
pepper, please?" |
16:04 |
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ALBERT HOMYAK: "I don’t think they will
use rocket launchers. They'll use something far more serious. They will bomb
from the planes." |
16:09 |
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BOY 1 : "If
they drop a nuclear bomb, what will happen? I mean, the radiation." |
16:24 |
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ALBERT HOMYAK: "Oh my God, why do you
ask such things? Why?" |
16:28 |
Albert
interview |
I am afraid for the safety of my children.
It’s important to me they live in a free independent country, they
live in a country where they're not brought to their knees. |
16:34 |
Albert
and boys carry water to bunker |
DAVID LIPSON, REPORTER: After
dinner – there's work to do – in the basement bunker. |
16:50 |
Albert
shows bunker |
ALBERT
HOMYAK: This basement is ready in case there are any military operations.
This cellar is eight metres underground. We use it in case of air strikes, because aerial bombs are worse, and they break
through several floors. That’s why we have this cellar. We can hide. It’s 100%
secure. |
16:58 |
Albert
and family watch TV |
If we have to evacuate in case of a full-scale military
operation, |
17:33 |
Albert
interview |
we made a
tough decision to either
burn or blow up all the houses that belongs to the church or to our
foundation. We will not
let the enemy desecrate our homes. |
17:38 |
Map
Donetsk and Luhansk |
Music |
17:57 |
Donetsk
GVs |
DAVID LIPSON,
REPORTER: We're not allowed into the
separatist enclave, the People’s Republic of Donetsk. But we manage to
send a crew from Moscow as the crisis escalates. It’s clear that on
this side of the frontline, people see things very differently. |
18:10 |
Alexandra
interview |
ALEXANDRA LYGINA: I feel myself Russian despite the fact that my mum is Ukrainian. |
18:26 |
Alexandra
at home, making tea |
DAVID LIPSON, REPORTER: Alexandra
Lygina is a 20-year-old student at Donetsk University and a member of a
pro-Russia youth group. ALEXANDRA
LYGINA: We can't live in the same country as the Nazis.
We can't forgive |
18:32 |
Alexandra
interview |
all
that we had experienced through the years. How can I live in one country with
those who killed my loved one? How can we forgive the death of our children. It's impossible. |
18:47 |
Billboards
with swastikas |
DAVID LIPSON: The Kremlin has relentlessly pushed the
line that Ukraine is infested with Nazis. |
19:02 |
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When the Russian
army invaded Crimea, it erected giant billboards with swastikas to warn
people they needed protection. |
19:11 |
Dmitry
interview/Shelled buildings |
DMITRY ASTRAKHAN: We are now on the outskirts of Donetsk near Donetsk airport. You
can see that almost all the buildings are destroyed by Ukrainian shelling. DAVID LIPSON,
REPORTER: Dmitry Astrakhan is a former
spokesman for the separatist people’s militia in Donetsk. They’ve been making the same claims about Nazis for eight years. |
19:29 |
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DMITRY ASTRAKHAN: That’s why they had to make the militia and
had to defend themselves, because they were under attack both from Ukrainian
army and from Nazi battalions and Nazi paramilitary groups, so that’s the
only way we could fight for our human rights. |
19:47 |
Azov Regiment
march |
DAVID LIPSON,
REPORTER: The Azov Regiment features
heavily in the narrative. |
20:07 |
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DMITRY ASTRAKHAN: They began as Nazi paramilitary groups,
they are formed from skinheads and from white supremacist groups and from
Nazis. |
20:13 |
Alexandra
carries box of aid supplies |
DAVID LIPSON, REPORTER: Alexandra Lygina’s family
lives in Russia, but she’s chosen to stay here and deliver humanitarian aid. I’m
curious as to why she believes a democratic country with a Jewish president
is a Nazi state. |
20:22 |
Lipson
remote interview with Alexandra |
"Hi
Alexandra. Nice to meet you." ALEXANDRA LYGINA: "Hi, nice to meet
you too." |
20:40 |
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DAVID LIPSON,
REPORTER: Where do you get the idea
that Ukraine is a Nazi country? ALEXANDRA LYGINA: First of all, from my talkings with the Ukrainians. Since
I was 12 years old, I spoke with them a lot in social networks, and I
understood that they are very evil and cruel people. |
20:43 |
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DAVID LIPSON,
REPORTER: You can be evil and cruel
without being Nazis though. Where does the Nazi comparison come from? ALEXANDRA LYGINA: Because they
hate Russians just because of their nationality. And they hate us just
because we speak Russian, and we support Russia. And for them, that's a
reason to kill us. |
21:11 |
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DAVID LIPSON, REPORTER: Here in Ukraine, I haven't seen any sign
of Nazis roaming the streets. Where does this idea come from? ALEXANDRA LYGINA: For example,
Azov Battalion. |
21:36 |
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DAVID LIPSON:
We did speak to a Commander
from Azov. He laughed at the suggestion that they were Nazis. He said that
they have Jews and Greeks in their ranks. How could they be Nazis? ALEXANDRA LYGINA: Because they
just hate Russians. |
21:46 |
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They can love all
the nationalities in the world, but they hate Russians very strongly. |
22:00 |
People
shopping |
DAVID LIPSON,
REPORTER: The conflict has been at a
stalemate for years.
The ceasefire is breached regularly
by both sides, but life in the city goes on; the abundance of Russian flags
and numberplates a sign of who is really in charge. While we’re filming, there’s a reported
increase in shelling, but it’s not seen as a pretext for a major escalation. |
22:09 |
Dmitry
interview |
DMITRY ASTRAKHAN:
We're talking about such as the big war between Russia and Ukraine, I don’t
think it’s really possible in the next days. I don’t
think this will happen. |
22:39 |
Lipson
remote interview with Alexandra |
DAVID LIPSON: Do you believe a war is coming? ALEXANDRA LYGINA: No, because the
war is keep going for almost eight years, and I don't believe that something
will change dramatically. |
22:54 |
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DAVID LIPSON,
REPORTER: So
you don't think an invasion by Russia is imminent? ALEXANDRA LYGINA: No, I think
it's fake. |
23:10 |
Park
GVs |
DAVID LIPSON,
REPORTER: Just a few hours after we
talk, everything changes.
The leaders of both separatist
enclaves announce simultaneously that they’re under heavy attack. |
23:17 |
Pushilin
announcement |
DENIS PUSHILIN: "Dear
residents of the Donetsk People’s Republic, territories of Donetsk and
Luhansk are under a large-scale fire from Ukraine. Only in recent days our
army stopped several attempted terrorist acts from Ukrainian special
services." |
23:29 |
Russian
footage of mobilisation and evacuation |
DAVID LIPSON,
REPORTER: Men of fighting age are mobilised;
women and children ordered to evacuate. It
appears highly organised and pre-planned. Buses are immediately on hand to
ferry civilians into Russia, camera crews in place to film frightened
children, even orphans. |
23:46 |
Russian
interview with child |
INTERVIEWER: Have
you heard of shootings in recent days or any explosions? CHILD: Yes, we
were very afraid. INTERVIEWER: Were you afraid? CHILD: Yes. INTERVIEWER: Do
you think it will be awesome in Russia? CHILD: Yes off course. |
24:06 |
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DAVID LIPSON,
REPORTER: In Kyiv, the government
calls the claims absurd, suggesting separatists had staged the attack. |
21:21 |
Russian
State TV report |
But Russian State
media bolsters the panic, warning of foreign saboteurs. |
24:29 |
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Russian TV CLIP: "The degree of tension is extreme.
Saboteurs are operating in the self-proclaimed republics. In the
Gorlovka they were planning to break into facilities with dangerous chemicals
and blow up chlorine containers there." |
24:35 |
Donetsk
celebrations |
DAVID LIPSON, REPORTER: Then
President Putin announces he will recognise the enclaves’ independence and
send in peacekeepers. Donetsk erupts in celebration. For the separatists, it
seems the crisis is over. For the rest of Ukraine, it feels like a pretext
for an invasion. |
24:52 |
Russian
troops |
JAKE SULLIVAN, US Security Advisor:
"The Russian
government is in a position to be able to mount a major military action in
the Ukraine any day now." |
25:25 |
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DAVID LIPSON,
REPORTER: Russian forces are
encircling Ukraine and putting on an
almighty show of force. The world is on
high alert. |
25:36 |
Lipson
to camera |
We had planned to
stay here in Mariupol a little longer, but for us it’s time to go too.
|
25:46 |
Mariupol sunset |
Music |
25:58 |
Mariupol
sunset. Lipson in car leaving Mariupol. |
DAVID LIPSON,
REPORTER: As we leave Mariupol, it’s hard
to ignore how eight years of conflict with Russia have transformed Ukraine.
It is more united, but also more nationalistic and battle hardened.
Any
war will be long and bloody. |
26:05 |
Kyiv
GVs |
|
26:25 |
Viktoria
at memorial wall |
Back in Kyiv,
Viktoria shows us the consequences of “territorial disputes”. More than 14,000 people have been killed
trying to hold on to Ukraine’s territories in the east. |
26:32 |
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VIKTORIA: The motivation of all those who
became volunteers in 2014 was the same. At that moment we understood who the
enemy was. We wanted to stop them from going further into our land. |
26:46 |
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DAVID LIPSON,
REPORTER: There are millions like
Viktoria who've learned the hard way a national sense of unity and purpose. |
27:05 |
Viktoria
and son leave home and walk to kindergarten |
That’s now being
passed to a new generation. |
27:12 |
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VIKTORIA: I want him to know the price we
paid for him to grow up in a free country. I want those freedoms, principles,
values our generation had to fight for, I want them to be a way of life for
him. |
27:19 |
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DAVID LIPSON,
REPORTER: After we leave, Putin does
the unthinkable. He launches an air, land and sea
invasion on the whole country. |
27:49 |
Putin |
Putin: "We will strive to demilitarise
and de-Nazify Ukraine." |
28:01 |
Shelling
of Kyiv |
DAVID LIPSON,
REPORTER: The lives of 44 million
Ukrainians have now been upended. They’re fighting hard for their country. |
28:10 |
Still. Viktoria
with Ivan. END CARD: |
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28:21 |
Still. Albert and
boys at table. END CARD: |
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28:27 |
Still. Alexandra. END CARD: Alexandra has
fled Donetsk to Russia. She’s helping other evacuees. |
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28:32 |
Credits
[see below] |
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28:37 |
Outpoint |
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28:54 |
CREDITS:
REPORTER
David Lipson
PRODUCERS
Eric Campbell
Leah Donovan
Yuliya Kutsenko
Anastasia Tenisheva
CAMERA
Mathew Marsic
EDITORS
Leah Donovan
Deb Prince
RESEARCHER
Victoria Allen
ARCHIVE
RESEARCER
Michelle Boukheris
ASSISTANT
EDITOR
Tom Carr
GRAPHICS
Andy Talbot
SENIOR
PRODUCTION MANAGER
Michelle Roberts
DIGITAL
PRODUCER
Matt Henry
SUPERVISING
PRODUCER
Lisa McGregor
EXECUTIVE
PRODUCER
Matthew Carney
foreign correspondent
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