Italy: Is the Far Right Alright?

Radio Télévision Suisse | 13min
Postproduction script

 

00:00:00,620 Giorgia Meloni: -I am Giorgia... I am a woman, a mother, I am an Italian, a Christian, and no one, no one will ever take that away from me.

0’06 19th October 2019

00:00:12,519 VO: -God, country and family. Since her speech, her party has moved from 4% to 25% of the vote. Giorgia Meloni fires up the crowds with her ultra conservative remarks. For instance last June when she was invited to the congress of the neo-Francoist party Vox, Spain.

00:00:31,680 Meloni on stage: -Either we say yes, or we say no, Yes to natural family. No to the LGBT lobby. Yes to sexual identity. No to gender ideology.

0’36 Marbella, 15th June 2022

00:00:47,885 VO: -What is her real speech? The one of the Pasionaria or the more reassuring one when she tries to erase her label as a post-fascist?

00:00:58,536 Meloni on video: -Freedom is to us the greatest gift of all. Our historic judgment is based on freedom, which is our only compass. Many decades ago, the Italian right relegated fascism to history. It condemned with no ambiguity the deprivation of democracy and the infamous anti-Semitic laws.

1’02 6th August 2022       Giorgia Meloni, Leader, Fratelli D’Italia

1’25 Title – Italy: Are the Far Right Alright?

00:01:38,514 VO: -In April, about a hundred people met in Predappio to commemorate the death of Mussolini. A group of nostalgic former soldiers came to pay homage to the Duce. A procession authorized by the authorities while the justification of fascism is forbidden by the Italian Constitution.

00:02:03,879 Mirko Santarelli to crowd: -Mussolini is not dead. Your presence proves it. After nearly 100 years, they are still here to hammer our brains out, to try to erase the memory, the greatness of this man, that no one will succeed to erase from history.

00:02:24,134 VO: -A tribute in the purest fascist tradition. In silence, they wait to enter the crypt, where the Duce's tomb has been since 1956.

00:02:38,988 Mirko to crowd: Comrade Benito Mussolini, here! Break ranks, my friends.

00:02:55,035 Count Farneti Merenda Salecchi: -We commemorate the man who was sent to us by divine providence. At school, nobody taught us that.

3’01 Count Farneti Merenda Salecchi

00:03:06,276 VO: -Many Italians still think that Mussolini was the last man who knew how to govern Italy. They write it on the register of tributes. In the political party that could win the election, the Duce nostalgics are in the thousands.

00:03:22,165 Mirko: -A lot of them! We shouldn't say it, but I'm telling you. Many people feel a kind of nostalgia for Mussolini. If you talk about Fratelli d'Italia, at least 80% of supporters think this way. They can't say that, because in Italy, you have to declare yourself anti-fascist. Everyone I know shares this idea.

3’36 Mirko Santarelli, Organiser of Benito Mussolini commemorations

00:03:43,105 Reporter: -Can we say that their leader, Meloni, is a little fascist?

00:03:49,630 Mirko: -I don't say so. I can't say it. But certainly, I hope so! She kept the little flame. And this is the famous flame of the Italian Social Movement.

00:04:08,444 VO: -In Predappio, the headquarters of the fascist party falls into ruin. However, Mussolini's native city has become the place for fascism nostalgics. Here the Duce is sold in all forms. Trinkets of an often questionable taste. The organizer introduces us to Suzy.

00:04:28,720 Mirko: -She comes from Bergamo, she arrived with her outfit.

00:04:35,211 VO: -Still wearing her black shirt, Suzy does not miss any of the commemorations. She lives in the hills of Lombardy. Her apartment is a kind of sanctuary. She has some unique objects. Each one is connected to the fascination that the Duce has had on her since her teen years.

00:04:56,040 Suzy Cortinovis: -I like it when I get up in the morning and I drink my coffee in front of all this. Here I feel at home.

00:05:07,379 VO: -Mussolini is at the heart of Suzy's life. He dictates her choices, her tattoos, her clothes, her jewellery. Everything in her is fascist.

00:05:18,000 Suzy: -To tell the truth, for me, fascism is like faith, you have to be a believer. You have to respect what he did, and you must respect the teachings, beginning with God, country and family.

5’23 Suzy Cortinovis

00:05:33,000 VO: -Suzy asks for the return of compulsory military service. Behind her smile, she tells us that she is against the mixing of races. To block the migrants, her solution is kind of radical.

00:05:45,942 Suzy: -I would put mines into the sea. Meloni won't be able to do it, but I would do it. If you enter my house, you ask permission.

00:05:55,960 Reporter: -Do you see a bit of Mussolini in Meloni?

00:06:00,100 Suzy: -I see in her what Mussolini was. I see in her a person who believes in her values.

00:06:06,840 Reporter: -When she says that she has relegated fascism to history, isn't that a betrayal?

00:06:12,749 Suzy: -No, because according to you, why did she say it? It's just a power play, and she's walking on thin ice.

00:06:24,590 VO: -It's in Trento's Museum of Aeronautics that Francesco Filippi gave us an appointment. A place that reminds us that fascism was above all a regime of war and propaganda. This historian considers that the Duce nostalgics are not dangerous, because they are too few in number.

00:06:43,425 Francesco Filippi: -But be careful, there is another category of people, that is much larger and more sensitive in numbers, which has a sick relationship with our past. This is the category of those that we can define as unconscious fascists. There are millions of them and they have understood very little about the responsibility for this dismal past. They think that the 20 years of fascism was a period when the fascists did some good things.

6’52 Francesco Filippi, Author of Are there good dictators?

00:07:10,033 VO: -In his books, he tries to dismantle the clichés about Mussolini, the so-called good dictator. He tries to understand why some Italians are, without knowing it, a bit fascist, or at least attracted by ideas with fascist overtones.

00:07:25,570 Francesco Filippi: -In Italy, there is a revival of fascist themes. A return of that past, of those 20 mystified years. And an exaltation of the politicians who refer to this fascist past. This means not only that this past has not been digested and explained historically, but that means that being a fascist today is not a negative thing to run for politics. This is the result of decades of abandoning anti-fascist ideas.

00:08:01,035 VO: -That evening, Meloni's electoral campaign stops in Perugia. A city that passed to the right after 70 years of left-wing management. The region's Senate candidate quickly brushes off the accusations of a party with fascist sympathies.

00:08:17,240 Francesco Zaffini: -Everyone in his soul, in his heart, in his head, cultivates what he wants. There are people who are nostalgic for Stalin. Nostalgic for communism or Che Guevara. There are monarchist nostalgics. And of course, there are nostalgics of fascism. But this has nothing to do with Fratelli d'Italia.

8’24 Francesco Zaffini, Fratelli D’Italia candidate, Umbria

00:08:44,483 VO: -Is Fratelli d'Italia a patriotic and modern party based on three pillars: God, Fatherland, Family?

00:08:52,225 Old man: -I don't know if you can say it like that. But God exists. The fatherland exists, and the third is what? Oh yes, the family exists... I don't see the problem.

00:09:07,720 VO: -In the crowd, we quickly understand that removing the tricolor flame from the party logo would mean the direct loss of many voters.

00:09:16,515 Man on street: -Like many, I believe in this flame. I believe in what it represents and I am glad that Meloni did not remove it.

00:09:28,307 Woman: -Right now, we need rules. Yes, go back in time a bit to reclaim our fundamental rights.

00:09:38,360 Woman 2: -That's what being far right is all about: bringing back some order. Right now, we're in the middle of a decline, order no longer exists.

00:09:49,848 VO: -The activists of Fratelli d'Italia are not all nostalgic for Mussolini. But nostalgic for the image of Italy's greatness. The only Italian journalist threatened with death by neo-fascist groups lives in Bergamo. Placed under police protection, he gave us a discreet meeting place.

00:10:09,315 Paolo Berizzi: -We can believe Meloni when she says that she is not a fascist. We can say that Fratelli d'Italia is not a party that can technically be defined as neo-fascist. But Fratelli d'Italia is full of fascists. There are euro-parliamentarians militants, who have a fascist history. They make appeals to the fascist past.

10’14 Paolo Berizzi, Journalist, La Repubblica

00:10:40,303 VO: -To write his articles, Paolo Berizzi has investigated on the past of the Fratelli d'Italia's candidates. Fascist greetings, mausoleum inauguration ceremonies honoring war criminals, the Internet doesn't forget anything.

00:10:54,600 Paolo: -The risk is not the return of fascism as we have known it, because historically, it's not possible. The real risk is a shift of our democracy to a 'democrature'. A weakened democracy which tends to authoritarian drifts. The emblematic case is that of Hungary with Orban.

00:11:22,589 VO: -During her electoral turn, Meloni gave the best of herself. Inflamed speeches where she lists the many problems of Italy.

00:11:31,641 Meloni on stage: -Immigration... Here people will obviously say, 'Meloni is a racist, shame on her'

00:11:39,414 VO: -A bit of humour before exposing her vision on immigration.

00:11:45,053 Meloni on stage: -I consider that if you bring someone in here, you don't let him sell drugs. The women, you don't let them prostitute themselves. Yes, there are safety issues, and you can't tell, because the left is in solidarity with the raped women. Only if the rape is not caused by an illegal immigrant. In their scale of values, the illegal immigrant is more important than the raped woman.

00:12:16,311 VO: -Despite the extremist arguments of her speeches, if Meloni wins, and becomes the first female president of Italy, she will have to demonstrate quickly that she represents a right-wing conservative party, but also a modern and democratic right, At the risk of disappointing those who see in her the worthy heiress of the Duce's legacy.

12’45 Credits:

Valérie Dupont
Giuseppe Mariani
Filippo Traversa
Antonio Lalli
Paolo Dorliguzzo
Fanny Lelong
Edgard Biondina

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