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Samuel Perry Co-Author, The Flag and The Cross Bob Abeshouse People & Power Zack Beauchamp Senior Correspondent, Vox Kim Hough Founder, Families for Safe Schools Gov. Ron DeSantis Florida - Republican Andrew Spar Pres., Florida Education Assoc. Tina Descovich Co-founder, Moms for Liberty Tiffany Justice Co-founder, Moms for Liberty State Sen. Shevrin
Jones Vice Chair, Ed.Cmte
– Democrat JD Vance US Senate Candidate, Ohio – Republican Congressman Tim Ryan US Senate Candidate, Ohio – Democrat Stanley Greenberg Founding Partner, Greenberg Research Andrew Feight Dir, Scioto Historical Project Max Liles Senior Dir, The Counseling Center Political Ad or Campaign Ad Political Ad or Campaign Ad Political Ad or Campaign Ad Political Ad or Campaign Ad |
Trump I
can’t see it very well. Okay, I will do this. I’m gonna
do this. Let’s go. THE DAY AFTER A MOB STORMED THE US CAPITOL ON
JANUARY 6, 2021, DONALD TRUMP’S AIDES URGED HIM TO ISSUE A CONDEMNATION OF
THE ATTACK.BUT HE STILL COULDN’T ADMIT THAT HE LOST. Trump But
this election is now over. Congress has certified the results. I don’t want
to say the election is over. I just want to say Congress has certified the
results without saying the election’s over, okay? THE FORMER PRESIDENT IS BEING INVESTIGATED FOR
TRYING TO OVERTURN THE 2020 ELECTION AND FOR TAKING CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS TO
HIS MAR A LAGO ESTATE. BUT HE IS STILL THE FRONTRUNNER FOR THE 2024 REPUBLICAN
PRESIDENTIAL NOMINATION, IN LARGE PART DUE TO THE SUPPORT OF WHITE CHRISTIAN NATIONALISTS. Perry
About 40 percent of the Republican base is – is white Evangelical, but about
80 percent of the Republican base is – is white Christian And
a large percentage SUPPORT FOR TRUMP AND REPUBLICANS IN THE MIDTERMS IS
ALSO BASED ON HIS BIG LIE THAT DEMOCRATS STOLE THE 2020 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION.
AND ON A STEADY STREAM OF PROPAGANDA ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND RIGHTWING NEWS
OUTLETS. Carlson These
are not hearings in any recognizable sense. This is a show trial. FOX NEWS WAS THE ONLY MAJOR NETWORK NOT TO CARRY THE
JANUARY 6 COMMITTEE HEARINGS. BUT THEY WILL SEND THEIR PRIMETIME STAR TO
HUNGARY TO PROMOTE ITS AUTOCRATIC PRIME MINISTER VICTOR ORBAN. Carlson
Why did you take a different position on migration from other European states Orban
They believe firmly that if different communities are
mixed up, the outcome of this will be good. But I think it’s very risky, and
the chance that it will be not good, but very bad is obvious. Beauchamp American
conservatives like Tucker Carlson embrace an Orban-like
view of the United States. They reject the traditional view in the US that
immigrants can be assimilated, that immigrants can be a positive contribution
and become Americans ZACK BEAUCHAMP,A SENIOR
CORRESPONDENT AT VOX WHO WRITES ABOUT RIGHTWING POPULISM, HAS VISITED
HUNGARY SEVERAL TIMES TO PROBE ORBAN’S POLICIES. Beauchamp Victor
Orban’s Hungary is the most revered foreign country
on the American right today. And I think the admiration in the US comes from
the fact that he fights and he wins. But he does so through
undemocratic tools, through really profoundly undemocratic tools to the point
where – few seriously think Hungary should be termed a democracy anymore. Abeshouse
So, the appeal of Orban
is, what, that even if you have to give up democracy to preserve your
heritage and promote Christian values its, okay? Beauchamp
No, this is what’s really crucial about the way that modern authoritarians operate.They keep the rhetorical
language of democracy.They don’t tell you that you give
up democracy. And what Orban has is a kind of
strategic brilliance, it's the twisting of all sorts of state policies in many
subtle ways that add up to the essential abolition of democracy, even though
the system retains a democratic veneer. OUR INVESTIGATION OF THE AUTHORITARIAN THREAT IN
AMERICA CONTINUES WITH AN EXAMINATION OF A POLITICIAN WHO SEEMS TO HAVE TAKEN
A PAGE OUT OF VIKTOR ORBAN’S PLAYBOOK, FLORIDA
GOVERNOR RON DESANTIS. HE IS THE FAVORITE TO BE THE 2024 REPUBLICAN
PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE IF TRUMP FALTERS. DeSantis The left
wants // to marginalize the conservative half of the country. WE WENT TO FLORIDA
TO EXPLORE DESANTIS”S POLICIES. OUR FIRST STOP WAS BREVARD COUNTY WHERE BATTLES
OVER EDUCATION HAVE BEEN INTENSE. AT A COMMUNITY FAIR, KIM HOUGH WAS
CAMPAIGNING FOR A SEAT ON THE BREVARD COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD. Natsot:We just need our
community to constantly be supportive of our public education IN 2021, HOUGH STARTED AN ORGANIZATION CALLED FAMILIES FOR SAFE
SCHOOLS THAT WANTED CHILDREN TO WEAR MASKS IN SCHOOLS TO PROTECT AGAINST
COVID-19. Hough And our governor had said that you cannot require masks. And we were
real concerned about the safety of our kids' health, and we quickly found out
that our school system was kind of being attacked from a political angle that
we hadn’t known was happening A CONSERVATIVE GROUP CALLED MOMS FOR LIBERTY HAD SPRUNG UP TO OPPOSE
MASK MANDATES. IT WAS SOON PRESSURING THE SCHOOL BOARD TO BAN BOOKS, AND
ALTER INSTRUCTION DEALING WITH RACIAL AND GENDER ISSUES. Moms for
Liberty Woman: Regarding
your LGBTQ guideline. Either parents have the right to direct the upbringing
of their children or they don’t. Either we have a representative form of
government or we don’t. According to your guidelines we have neither. GOVERNOR DESANTIS, WHO
IS RUNNING FOR RE-ELECTION, SAW OPPORTUNITY IN THE DIVISION OVER LGBTQ ISSUES.
IN MARCH, HE SIGNED A BILL THAT BANS
DISCUSSION OF GENDER IDENTITY AND SEXUAL ORIENTATION IN KINDERGARTEN THRU 3RD GRADE, AND INAPPROPRIATE
INSTRUCTION AT HIGHER LEVELS. IT ALLOWS
PARENTS TO SUE FOR VIOLATIONS. CALLED THE
PARENTAL RIGHTS IN EDUCATION ACT, HIS CRITICS DUBBED IT THE DON’T SAY GAY
BILL DeSantis They are sloganeering because they support
sexualizing kids in kindergarten. They support injecting woke gender ideology
into second grade classrooms. MOMS FOR LIBERTY,
WHICH NOW HAS DOZENS OF CHAPTERS ACROSS FLORIDA, LOBBIED HEAVILY IN FAVOR OF
THE BILL. Hough They think teachers are indoctrinating
children into the LGBTQ, what they would deem lifestyle. There's
so many things they're afraid of. I'm not afraid of my children finding out
about it. I'm not afraid of talking to my kids about it. And so, I feel like
it's an overblown situation THIS YEAR, DESANTIS
ALSO PUSHED THRU HB7, THE STOP WOKE ACT. IT ROLLS BACK DIVERSITY TRAINING IN
THE WORKPLACE, AND RESTRICTS THE WAY RACIAL ISSUES ARE TAUGHT IN SCHOOLS DeSantis We believe an important component of freedom in the
state of Florida is the freedom from
having oppressive ideologies imposed upon you without your consent Zack Beauchamp: [00:38:19]Orban and DeSantis
share a kind of demagogic politics that says they’re coming for us, whoever
the “they” is, and, typically in both of their cases it is socially liberal
individuals, especially the LGBT community Abeshouse Do you see a connection between DeSantis’
Stop WOKE Act and Viktor Orban’s strategies? Beauchamp
Yes, Both of them are attempting to seize control of our
educational systems. This is in part because education is the space in which
citizens are acculturated, you know, we learn ideas or what it means to be a
good citizen. On a deeper level it’s the professors and the schoolteachers
who are a
really potent reservoir of liberal cultural power and influence and they need
to be squashed or brought to heel. Spar With this bill and the idea that one
individual could say, I have a concern with the way something's being taught,
and if you don't stop, I'm going to sue you, is quite concerning to us in the
education field, and teachers across this state. ANDREW SPAR IS THE
PRESIDENT OF THE FLORIDA EDUCATION ASSOCIATION WHICH REPRESENT THE STATE’S
TEACHERS Spar You can end up with that extremist who wants
to shut down the fact that we're teaching an honest history about the
Holocaust, or we're teaching about slavery, or the Jim Crow laws. It has a
chilling effect. It's making people question, can I teach this or not? IN 2021,THE DESANTIS
ADMINISTRATION ALSO BANNED THE TEACHING OF THE 1619 PROJECT, WHICH STRESSES THE
ROLE OF SLAVERY IN SHAPING US HISTORY. AND IT FORBID CRITICAL RACE THEORY, A
LEGAL UNDERSTANDING OF SYSTEMIC RACISM, FROM BEING TAUGHT IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS. Spar What we've been seeing in general in our
public schools is this idea of maybe not teaching all of our history, whitewash
our history. Abeshouse Opponents of the Parental Rights in
Education bill and so-called Don't Say Gay Bill were accused of setting kids
up for sexual abuse and sexual deviancy, were accused of being groomers Spar Teachers are not groomers. I heard some
crazy things that I won't even repeat here. And when a teacher is threatened
because they are part of the LGBT community//It’s crazy. it's anti-American,
quite honestly. DeSantis
CPAC The woke
is the new religion of the left. And we’re going to lead the
charge here in Florida. But we need people all over the country to be willing
to put on that full armor of God to stand firm against the left schemes.
You’ll be met with flaming arrows, but the shield of faith will stop them. Perry Ron DeSantis is I think carrying out a--a policy agenda that appeals to all of the things that
white Christian Nationalism applauds. Not just nationalism in the sense of
patriotism that we are great, but what made us great was these specific
things, Christianity, capitalism, white ethnoculture,
traditional gender roles. And those who question that narrative are not true
patriots. Justice It is now our distinct honor to award the
first ever Liberty sword to America’s Governor Ron DeSantis. MOMS FOR LIBERTY HELD
THEIR FIRST NATIONAL SUMMIT IN JULY, AND HAS TAKEN OFF SINCE
IT WAS FOUNDED BY A FORMER BREVARD
COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER, TINA DESCOVITCH, AND TIFFANY JUSTICE, A SCHOOL
BOARD MEMBER FROM A NEIGHBORING COUNTY. Descovich Moms for
Liberty has grown in just 18 months to 37 states, over 200 chapters, and
95,000 members. Abeshouse Do you think public schools are
indoctrinating kids to be un-America? Justice Yes, I do. I do think that there is
something happening right now in America, where there’s not a lot of value
being placed on how unique our country is. And we don’t want our children to
be taught that somehow America is tarnished in a way that isn’t – that there
are no redeeming qualities left. May be you can add
to that. Descovich I think
it starts with that America is systemically flawed, that we are systemically
racist. Abeshouse Your
organization lobbied for the Stop WOKE Act //What does woke mean to you? Justice Nonsense. Descovich Yeah, it’s a perfect terminology, nonsense.
Teaching five-year-olds that their gender is fluid, that’s nonsense.// Abeshouse You’re conflating like the gender issues and
the history issues, right? Many parents… Justice Stop WOKE. Abeshouse Think
the Stop WOKE Act is preventing kids from learning about the true history of
the country. And it’s an attempt to whitewash the history. Descovich Yeah,
that is untrue. Justice There's a difference between teaching the
real history of our country//and teaching divisive, toxic ideology, that's meant
to divide children and make them feel hopeless about a future in America Abeshouse A lot of
people feel that the agenda that you’re pushing, in terms of elevating LGBTQ issues
is marginalizing the group. If you look at authoritarian regimes they commonly
target LGBTQ folks to propel their agenda. Justice Is this the part where I got to remind you,
you work for Al Jazeera? Abeshouse Sure. Orban, I mean, Victor Orban
talks about it. There are situations where there’s been an elevation in violence. Justice Here, let me stop you right now. We are not
anti-LGBTQ. But the media, and the President of the United States, the Biden
administration they do not like Ron DeSantis. They do not like the stance
that he’s taking, and it’s become political. They want to divide the country.
Again, divide the country. Jones They don’t want their children learning
about the changing of America. They just don’t. And America’s changing SHEVRIN JONES, A DEMOCRATIC
STATE SENATOR FROM MIAMI, IS VICE CHAIRMAN OF THE COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION IN
THE FLORIDA SENATE. Jones We have a teacher shortage. We have a mass
exodus of teachers who are leaving the classroom. It’s also alarming to point
out that our students are extremely confused of what can happen if they go to
school to try to find help, if they want to talk about their sexuality Abeshouse Did you ever ask any of your colleagues on
the education committee or Governor DeSantis what they mean when they say
woke? Jones Yes and they don’t even know where it’s
originated from. The whole stay woke was a terminology that was telling
people to stay alert of what’s happening around you. It was after the
constant death of Black men by the hands of police officers. And so, for the
governor to counteract that with Stop the WOKE Act is racist, and I will
continue to say at it’s core it is racist Abeshouse Some people talk about
Florida as the laboratory of authoritarianism. Do you think that’s an apt
description? Beauchamp There’s really something to that. You know,especially in state control
over education, social views and expression. And DeSantis has implemented a
variety of//Orban style, culture war, authoritarian
tactics// BUT IT’S NOT JUST IN
FLORIDA. ACROSS THE COUNTRY, DEMOCRATIC EFFORTS TO COUNTER REPUBLICAN CULTURE
WAR TACTICS ARE CRITICAL IN THE FIGHT AGAINST AUTHORITARIANISM. TO SEE HOW IT’S
PLAYING OUT, WE HEADED
NEXT TO OHIO TO EXAMINE A KEY US SENATE RACE BETWEEN DEMOCRAT TIM RYAN AND FAR
RIGHT REPUBLICAN JD VANCE. Vance ad JD is the conservative
outsider who will continue the fight to secure our borders. VANCE’S OPPONENT TIM RYAN
IS A CONGRESSMAN
AND DEMOCRATIC POPULIST. Ryan ad That’s why I’ll take on
China to bring jobs back to Ohio, and fight for a tax cut that puts money in
your pocket. You want culture wars. I’m not your guy. Greenberg I think he’s the only one
who can win, but I think it will be a close election. STANLEY GREENBERG IS ONE OF
AMERICA’S LEADING DEMOCRATIC POLLSTERS. HE ARGUES THAT THE ONLY WAY TO
COUNTER AUTHORITARIAN TRENDS IN THE COUNTRY IS FOR DEMOCRATS TO START
DELIVERING FOR WORKING CLASS VOTERS. Greenberg
It’s probably
three-quarters of the population are people who do not have a four-year
degree. They have watched decade after decade with declining income, lost
wealth, lost power. At the same time. they think big corporations have been
using their money to control government, rig the system. And they’re not
wrong. The elites don’t see them and with that kind of invisibility they will
reach for anything. They will reach for a strong leader. Trump fulfilled
that. Abeshouse Do you see the J.D. Vance versus Ryan race
as a microcosm of what’s going on in the country between the Republican
cultural war and the Democrats’ attempts to put forth an economic populist
message? Greenberg Yeah,I
mean Vance adopted Trump’s whole vision. And I think Ryan’s vision really is
the hope for Democrats thinking about the next presidential election. Because
he is forthright in battling for working people. He articulates their
discontent. He’s angry about it, and that’s what working people need to see. Ryan You guy’s are
like the future of Ohio. So, we are counting on you ok. WE CAUGHT UP WITH CONGRESSMAN
RYAN WHILE HE WAS CAMPAIGNING AT BUTLER TECH WHICH OFFERS TRAINING FOR HIGH
TECH MANUFACTURING JOBS. Ryan at presser I think one of the dumbest things we’ve
ever done as a country is tell kids they have to go to college and we lost a
lot of the kind of skillset that you get in a place like this. Abeshouse What do you think it going to take for the
Democrats to win back the working class? Ryan Go meet with them. We’ve been in all 88 –
all 88 counties. Talk about the issues that are important to them, jobs,
wages, pensions, benefits, their kids//rebuilding our communities, infrastructure these
are things we should be able to agree about these are all American things. IN HIS CAMPAIGN TO
WIN BACK WORKING CLASS VOTERS, RYAN HAS TRAVELED SEVERAL TIMES TO PORTSMOUTH
IN SCIOTO COUNTY. FOR DECADES THE COUNTY WAS SPLIT ABOUT 50-50 BETWEEN
DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS. BUT SINCE 2016 ITS BROKEN 70- 30 FOR TRUMP AND THE
REPUBLICANS. Andrew Feight: [00:28:25]We were once really a strong union, Democratic
voting city. ANDREW FEIGHT, DIRECTS
THE SCIOTO HISTORICAL PROJECT. PORTSMOUTH’S PAST IS CHRONICLED IN 55 MURALS COVERING 2,000 FEET
OF FLOODWALL Feight
Portsmouth was a major center for steel production. At its height, the steel
industry here in town probably employed about 5,000 workers. Then the steel
mill began to shut down in about 1970 but took a decade for it to be completely
shuttered Abeshouse People here also worked at a nearby uranium
plant. Feight That’s
right. But that was also shut down right around 2000. We had a hallowing out
of out of middle class. We lost population as residents moved away. And I
think a lot people were frustrated and I think they saw a solution in what
was being promised by Donald Trump. ALREADY DEALING WITH ECONOMIC DECLINE, ABOUT 15
YEARS AGO PORTSMOUTH WAS OVERUN BY UNSCRUPULOUS DOCTORS
WRITING PRESCRIPTIONS FOR THE OPIOD, OXYCONTIN. IT CAUSED IMMENSE
SOCIAL |PROBLEMS, AND THE TOWN IS STILL
DEALING WITH THE FALLOUT TODAY. AN ABANDONED
SHOE FACTORY IS BEING CONVERTED INTO A STATE OF THE ART
ADDICTION TREATMENT FACILITY. Liles This building here is going to be dormitory
where individuals are going to be housed. MAX LILES IS THE
SENIOR DIRECTOR OF THE PROJECT. Liles 95+ percent of our budget is just Medicaid
dollars. And shout out Barack Obama for the Affordable Health Care Act. Shout
out, Republican governor at the time DONALD TRUMP OPPOSED
BOTH THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT AND MEDICAID EXPANSION, BUT WON VOTES BY DRAWING
ATTENTION TO THE OPIOD PROBLEM AMONG THE WHITE WORKING CLASS. VANCE USES THE
OPIOD CRISIS AS A WAY TO WAGE CULTURE WAR. Vance Ad: Are you a racist, do you hate Mexicans?
The media calls us racist for wanting to build Trump’s wall. They censor us
but it doesn’t change the truth. Joe Biden’s open border is killing Ohioians. With more illegal drugs and more Democrat
voters poring into this country. Liles Those are polarizing topics that
immediately pull you one way or another. It’s a strategy to take people who
are in the middle and leaning to the right to pull them all the way to the right.
Abeshouse When I
was driving down here, I saw a few signs on the side of the road. It said,
Joe Biden’s, you know, infrastructure bill provided 500 thousand jobs. Do the
Democrats get any credit for that in terms of the economy down here? Liles I think at the end of the day, really, what
we have is like, is one party, and it’s rich people. So ah, I think a lot of
the people are critical of the president no matter what Greenberg Well, it’s only because the Democrats
aren’t advancing an economic message that actually addresses the loss of
income and wealth combined with the inequality at the top, the billionaire’s
impact and control over government Abeshouse But the Republican message is about wokeism, is about immigration, about LGBTQ rights. They
seem to be trumping the economic message now. Greenberg
You’re going to
solve it by giving working families the kind of support they need. And they
are looking for that. They’re very open to a larger governmental role in
healthcare, income support. People, Biden voters, Trump voters, embrace that.
And they believe that if you can check the billionaires
power and provide the kind of support for working families, it can be
different. Beard guy
I don’t know. I
think they’ve got their work cut out for them, at least in industrialized
areas like Ohio, THIS MAN WAS SELLING
BEARD GROOMING SUPPLIES AT A CRAFTSFAIR IN PORTSMOUTH. Beard guy I actually work at a paper mill. And the Republican
party seems to be kind of what the Democratic party used to stand for, the –
the blue-collar, working-class people and the Democrat party that has now
seems to have went way off the rails in my opinion. Abeshouse Do you think that white folks are as
discriminated against as African Americans? Beard guyI think they are. I mean, it’s – it’s in different
ways, I guess, but I mean, you know//a white male has less chance of – of
getting a job you know, in certain situations Abeshouse Do you feel that Trump stood up for
Christianity, that Christianity is under siege in America right now? Beard guy
I do. I mean, it’s
been – been under siege for years, but //that that has really exploded maybe
in the last five to ten years. Jewelry
maker Well, unfortunately
we’re in an area where there's still some closemindedness and I believe that
there are a good amount of people that are okay with
racial slurs and bigotry. And I honestly just think that it's all a mess and
everyone just wants it their way and their way is the old way of let's just,
you know, have people of color sitting in the back of the bus and like they –
it's we’re going backwards. Perry We found that the more white Americans
subscribe to Christian Nationalist ideology the more they believe that they
will be targeted and that Black Americans will not be targeted. In fact,
Black Americans will be protected. Abeshouse Do you think Ohio Senate candidate, J.D.
Vance is trying to win votes by playing to the fears and policy preferences of
white Christian Nationalists? Perry So, J.D. Vance has actually unleashed the
rhetoric of – of white Christian Nationalism and populist authoritarianism
and has found it quite effective. Vance ad bite:On the one hand, the elites and the ruling
class are robbing us blind, and on the other hand if you dare complain about
it you are a bad person Perry He wants
to stoke fear, anger, and perceptions that good people like us, white
Christian Ohio Republican voters are under attack. We’re being called racist.
We’re being called xenophobes because we want to build a wall to keep those
people who are trying to replace us out. AT A BAR KNOWN FOR
HAVING A MURAL OF TRUMP ON THE WALL, WE
MET A TECHNICIAN AT A LOCAL CHEMICAL PLANT, AND ASKED HIM WHO HE SUPPORTED IN
OHIO’S RACE FOR THE US SENATE, WHICH IS NOW A VIRTUAL TIE. Guy at
bar JD Vance Abeshouse Why do you like JD Vance? Guy at
bar The
America first policies, and the wokeism. Wokeism’s got to end in this country, okay? Our country
will not succeed, we will not be a superpower under wokeism. Abeshouse So you like what Ron DeSantis is doing in
Florida? Guy at
bar Absolutely.
We’ll follow Ron DeSantis the same as we follow Trump. I’m tired of hearing
Trump supporters. It ain’t Trump supporters. It’s
America First Supporters DeSantis I’m on a mission to make Florida free. Let’s
make sure Ohio stays free… LAYING THE
GROUNDWORK FOR A POTENTIAL PRESIDENTIAL RUN, SHOULD TRUMP NOT BE NOMINATED,
GOVERNOR DESANTIS CAME TO OHIO TO STUMP WITH JD VANCE. NEITHER AGREED TO BE
INTERVIEWED. Justice I've got moms across the country, Democrats,
Republicans, Independents, you know what they say to me, all the time? I wish
Ron DeSantis was my governor. I can't wait to vote for him for President. Beachamp A DeSantis candidacy could lead to a pretty
significant shift in the Republican party towards full-scale Orbanism. So, I think we are at risk of it happening
during the 2024 election and we’re at deeper risk of American democracy at
the national level being thoroughly hollowed out over the course of the next
10, 20 years. THE ODDS FOR
DEMOCRATS IN THE UPCOMING MIDTERMS ARE
IMPROVING, DUE IN LARGE PART TO WIDESPREAD OUTRAGE OVER THE SUPREME COURT’S OVERTURNING OF ROE V. WADE
AND THE ASSAULT ON ABORTION RIGHTS. BUT TWO OUT OF 5 AMERICANS THINK CIVIL
WAR IS AT LEAST SOMEWHAT LIKELY IN THE NEXT DECADE, AND 58 PERCENT SEE THE REPUBLICAN MAGA MOVEMENT
AS A THREAT TO US DEMOCRACY.. Perry You’ve got a very, very
motivated and militant and mobilized contingent of Americans who subscribe to
Christian Nationalist ideology and they want to fight to preserve their power.
And it's going to take a broad coalition of Americans who can put aside their
differences long enough to say you know what the real threat right now is this
radical right, neo-fascist, authoritarian regime that wants to take all of
our rights, that wants to take our country in a direction that is
anti-democratic. It is un-American. END |
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