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Foreign
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2023
War
on Woke
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The US
state of Florida has become the epicentre of a nation-wide culture war and a
model for the country’s right-wing conservative movement. Led by
Governor Ron DeSantis, the only serious Republican rival to Donald Trump's
presidential bid, the state has become the place where “woke goes to
die”. This week
on Foreign Correspondent the ABC’s Washington bureau chief Jade Macmillan
travels to the sunshine state to see how this war is playing out. The
battlegrounds are schools and universities where new laws on the teaching of
issues like race and gender are bitterly dividing communities. While
other US states are watching closely, and some even following suit, all eyes
are now on Ron DeSantis who is expected to announce a run for the Republican
presidential nomination. The
question is will the Governor’s “anti-woke”
blueprint take him all the way to the White House? |
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Episode
teaser |
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00:10 |
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JADE
MACMILLAN, Reporter: In the pageantry of US politics, Florida is used to
turning heads. For decades, it's been courted as the prized swing state,
where elections are won on the barest of margins, and presidents are made.
Now, all eyes are on Florida again, and its rising star of the American
right. |
00:27 |
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MC:
It is my honour to welcome America's Governor, Ron DeSantis. |
00:50 |
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DESANTIS:
We will never surrender to the woke mob. Florida is where woke goes to die. |
00:56 |
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JADE
MACMILLAN, Reporter: Governor Ron DeSantis has made Florida the epicentre of
the nation's culture wars, zeroing in on education and the teaching of issues
like race and gender. |
01:03 |
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CATALINA
STUBBE: He defend freedom, he defends education and the innocence of our
children. |
01:15 |
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ANITA:
There is a palpable fear in the State of Florida right now. |
01:21 |
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JADE
MACMILLAN, Reporter: The Governor has been crisscrossing the country,
pitching his Florida playbook to a national audience. DESANTIS: I'm happy. You're
looking at the number one non-fiction book in America right here. |
01:27 |
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JADE
MACMILLAN, Reporter: Setting up a showdown for the Republican presidential
nomination, with Florida's most famous resident Donald Trump. |
01:41 |
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MAGA MARY: It's not going to be pretty. It's going to turn families
against each other and it's going to be awful. Awful. |
01:50 |
Super:
Jade Macmillan |
JADE
MACMILLAN, Reporter: Ron DeSantis is regarded as the only serious Republican
rival to Donald Trump. Even before he makes an official announcement he's
having a massive influence on America, so we've come to see what the man and
his war on woke look like. |
01:57 |
Title:
THE WAR ON WOKE |
Music |
02:17 |
Man
busking with violin. Super: |
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02:22 |
Marius
and family in boat |
On Florida's Gulf
coast, life revolves around the water. |
02:30 |
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MARIUS: I
feel like I'm living in heaven, honestly. This is heaven on earth right here. |
02:35 |
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JADE
MACMILLAN, Reporter: Real estate agent Marius Mocan and his family have
embraced the Sarasota lifestyle since arriving here two years ago. |
02:40 |
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MARIUS: The
water, the beaches, the weather. As you can see, there's beautiful real
estate everywhere. Prices have skyrocketed with the amount of people moving
here. |
02:50 |
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JADE MACMILLAN, Reporter: The Mocans moved from Oregon after becoming
fed up with that state's COVID policies. |
03:01 |
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MARIUS: "You want to
drive? Go ahead and drive." |
03:07 |
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JADE
MACMILLAN, Reporter: Today they're taking me out to one of their favourite
spots. In Florida, they say they found freedom. MARIUS: I feel like |
03:10 |
Marius
interview on boat |
I haven't lived in the true America until I moved here. A truly free
country. When you get here, it's just like, America! It's like more in your
face, you know? And everybody just minds their own business. You do your own
thing. Nobody's judging you. |
03:24 |
Mocan
family on beach |
JADE
MACMILLAN, Reporter: Ron DeSantis did shut down Florida in the early stages
of the pandemic, but soon bucked the advice of federal experts. He
re-opened schools and businesses, and banned mask
and vaccine mandates. Americans chafing at COVID restrictions
rushed in. By 2022, Florida was the fastest growing state, and Ron DeSantis
was the new hero of the right. |
03:41 |
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MARIUS: Ron DeSantis did a very
good job during COVID. His response to everything. I have friends that are more |
04:12 |
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left-leaning have
told me bold things like, you're going to die if you move there. There's no restrictions. You're going to get COVID and
you're going to die. That's what I was told. But once we got here and we just
had that, we're here, you know, all of that just sort of dissipated. |
04:19 |
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DAUGHTER: "Papa, I know how to get on myself." DARIA: "She does, this is true." MARIUS: "Oh, wow!" |
04:38 |
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MC: "Ladies and Gentlemen, Governor Ron DeSantis."
DESANTIS: Over the past few years, as so many states in our country
grinded their citizens down, we in Florida lifted our people up. |
04:43 |
DeSantis
inauguration |
When other states consigned their people's freedom to the dustbin,
Florida stood
strongly as freedom's linchpin. God bless you. |
05:00 |
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JADE
MACMILLAN, Reporter: Ron DeSantis is
a 44-year-old descendant of Italian immigrants, a navy veteran, and a father
of three. He's had a fast and furious
rise since his first bid for governor in 2018. |
05:09 |
Still.
DeSantis and Trump |
In that election, with President Trump's
endorsement, he won by less than half a percentage point. |
05:23 |
Still.
DeSantis and family |
Four years later, he was the new prince of
the Republican Party, |
05:30 |
DeSantis
victory speech |
re-elected as governor with the biggest
victory in decades. DESANTIS: "Well, thank
you so much! We chose education over indoctrination." |
05:37 |
Trump |
JADE MACMILLAN, Reporter: While the
former president was dogged by scandal, Ron DeSantis earned |
05:50 |
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the tagline 'Trump without the nonsense'. |
05:55 |
'Stop
woke' speech |
DESANTIS: "We are not going to tell some
kindergartener that they're an oppressor based on their race and what may
have happened 100 or 200 years ago. |
06:00 |
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JADE MACMILLAN, Reporter: He's channelled
his momentum into a campaign for 'parental rights', targeting what he decries
as 'woke indoctrination' in schools. DESANTIS: "We will never
surrender to the woke mob. |
06:06 |
Flag
outside suburban house. Catalina with children |
Florida is where woke goes
to die. |
06:21 |
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JADE MACMILLAN, Reporter: Across Florida, Ron DeSantis has found a
powerful new ally in suburban mothers. |
06:27 |
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CATALINA: "Run, run,
run. You can make it!" |
06:35 |
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JADE MACMILLAN, Reporter: Catalina Stubbe is a former Miss World
Colombia who campaigns with a group called Moms for Liberty, a conservative
non-profit founded in Florida during the pandemic as a pushback against
remote learning and mask mandates. |
06:40 |
Jade
greets children |
CATALINA: So, this is Jade. NATALIA: I'm Natalia. JADE MACMILLAN, Reporter:
Natalia. And what's your name? HERMAN: Herman. JADE MACMILLAN, Reporter:
Nice to meet you. |
06:56 |
Jade
with Catalina into house |
CATALINA: It was difficult
for me, pandemic, but I realised with the pandemic a lot of things, how the
education system is actually not too good. |
07:01 |
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"Can I see your
folder, please? Wash your hands!" Because of the pandemic I really wasn't happy with what my children
were learning. |
07:13 |
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JADE MACMILLAN, Reporter:
Moms for Liberty grew quickly and now claims more than 100,000 members across
the country. Its mission is to 'fight for the survival of America' by
defending parental rights. CATALINA: We became like a
political party. |
07:27 |
Catalina
interview in home |
Every single politician was
talking about education. Finally, for the first time they were talking about
parental rights; the rights
that God give you when your child is born. You have to
take the entire responsibility of your own children. That means you are the
only one taking all the decision over your children, being medical,
education, morality, religion, everything. You are the only one. Parents
are the only ones taking all the decision |
07:45 |
Daughter
enters |
over their children… Hola princess. That's my daughter. LEA: Hi. |
08:18 |
GVs,
home interior |
JADE
MACMILLAN, Reporter: Moms for Liberty threw their weight behind Ron DeSantis
in his first term as governor, campaigning for the Parental Rights in
Education Bill, which prohibits instruction on sexual orientation or gender
identity from kindergarten through year three. Critics call it 'Don't say
gay.' |
08:27 |
Catalina
interview |
CATALINA: When an adult talk to children about
sexuality and genitalia and how they feel about coming out of the closet and
whatever, this is child abuse. They're using the tax money payer to push a
radical agenda. |
08:48 |
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JADE
MACMILLAN, Reporter: Some people would describe Ron DeSantis's policies as
being homophobic. |
09:07 |
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CATALINA: There will always be retractors and people who criticise
everyone. I mean, I don't share that, because I love governor
DeSantis, what he did for our state. I love, I really love. And I
think we need to set an example of Florida with Governor DeSantis for the
entire world to show how a good leader can make a perfect state. |
09:12 |
Jade
driving |
Radio: "Florida Governor Ron DeSantis is
set to deliver his state of the state address tonight." JADE MACMILLAN,
Reporter: Ron DeSantis has been using his electoral mandate to
re-shape Florida into a model Republican state. Radio: "He's expected to focus on
popular and cultural issues as he eyes a run for president." |
09:44 |
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JADE
MACMILLAN, Reporter: He's lowered taxes while investing in law enforcement.
And tightened abortion regulations while loosening gun laws. But it's his intervention
in the public school system that's tapped a deep well of emotion. |
10:04 |
Jade
to camera outside capitol |
One of the reasons that Ron DeSantis has been able to
push so much of his agenda is because of the amount of support he has in
Florida's state legislature. Republicans hold supermajorities in both
chambers. It means that there's very little resistance to some of the really controversial laws being passed. |
10:26 |
Legislature
opening |
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10:49 |
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At
the opening of the legislature for 2023, Ron DeSantis is due to give his
State of the State address. |
10:55 |
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Reporter: "Governor,
any bombshells?" Reporter 2: "God bless
you!" Speaker: "Madame
President, the Governor of Florida." President: "Let the
Governor be received." |
11:04 |
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JADE MACMILLAN, Reporter:
On the agenda for this session is a proposed expansion of the ban on teaching
gender identity and sexual orientation until Year 9 that would also prohibit
the use of preferred pronouns in schools. |
11:15 |
Jade
listens to speech |
DESANTIS:
We must continue our momentum with K-through-12 education by fortifying
parents' rights. |
11:29 |
DeSantis
speech |
Our schools must deliver a good education, not a political
indoctrination. |
11:36 |
Protestors
outside legislature |
Children are not guinea pigs for science experimentation, and we
cannot allow people to make money off mutilating them. |
11:42 |
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PROTESTOR: If they keep adding on these laws, more and more trans kids
will die. JADE MACMILLAN, Reporter: What message do you want to send to the
Governor? |
11:55 |
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PROTESTOR: Stop trying to erase transgender people and non-binary
people and stop being afraid of us. |
12:01 |
Jade
listens to speech outside chamber |
DESANTIS: We
will stand strong. We will hold the line. We won't back down. And I can
promise you this. You ain't seen nothing yet. Thank you all. God bless you.
Thank you. |
12:12 |
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JADE MACMILLAN, Reporter: Outside the chamber the governor takes
questions from chosen journalists, and he defends opening the public school
system to scrutiny. |
12:29 |
DeSantis
with press corps |
DESANTIS: We've been able to empower parents with our curriculum
transparency. They go in and say, if I'm going to send my ten year old
daughter, I don't think I want this there with all these graphic images,
that's not appropriate, because I can tell you, when parents object to it at
school board meetings across the country, they usually are told you have to
pipe down because it's too graphic to even discuss in the school board
meeting. So if you can't discuss it in a school
board meeting, how is it appropriate for these kids. |
12:38 |
Leon
County GVs |
Music |
13:07 |
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RADIO: "Tonight's
school board meeting is just getting underway…" RADIO 2: "I don't know
why the GOP took forever to come down this path. This is probably going to be
a winning ticket to win over new voters who would otherwise never vote for
Republicans because their kids have a brighter future. |
13:09 |
School
board meeting |
CHILD: I pledge allegiance
to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it
stands… |
13:24 |
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JADE
MACMILLAN, Reporter: Ron DeSantis has extended his influence from the state
legislature down to the local level. |
13:33 |
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Florida's school boards decide how schools
in their districts operate. They're
made up of elected positions. Last
year, Ron DeSantis became the first governor in the state's
history to endorse and fund candidates. |
13:41 |
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BOARD CHAIRPERSON: Alright, 19.02 public
hearing for required instruction for human growth and development. Open
public hearing. |
13:58 |
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MEMBER: Madam Chair, there are five speakers
on this item. JADE MACMILLAN, Reporter: We've come to a
school board meeting in Leon County. |
14:04 |
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Members of the local chapter of Moms for
Liberty have come to object to its sex education curriculum. MEMBER: The first, we will have Priscilla
West. |
14:10 |
Mothers
address meeting |
PRISCILLA WEST: In the 314
pages of Leon County's middle and high school curriculum, the word woman is
not used, not once. The word man is only used once. The word anal is used 33
times. |
14:20 |
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SHARON KERWIN: There are several lessons in this curriculum that don't
follow Florida statute 1003.42 that says, quote, "teach abstinence from
sexual activity outside of marriage as the expected standard for all school
aged students while teaching the benefits of a monogamous heterosexual
marriage." By the way, I couldn't find one time that marriage was
referenced in this curriculum. CHAIRPERSON: "Thank you for your
comment. Next speaker, Brandi Andrews." |
14:37 |
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BRANDI ANDREWS: I honestly just envision a little girl going to school
that day. She learns what a clitoris is, she goes home and starts
masturbating. What does that do for her future now? |
15:01 |
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JADE MACMILLAN, Reporter: Superintendent
Rocky Hanna clashed with the governor over COVID policies. He's now being
investigated by the Department of Education over allegations he let his
personal views influence his work. |
15:15 |
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ROCKY HANNA: I've been with our school
district 35 years. I've never seen so much scrutiny before. |
15:30 |
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BRANDI
ANDREWS: I know there's a lot of you up there that view us as your enemy.
We're not. We're parents. These are our kids. CHAIRPERSON: Thank you for your comment. ROCKY HANNA: I've never seen anything like
this; this attack by the governor and the legislature, saying horrible things
about our public schools that are completely untrue, |
15:35 |
Rocky
Hanna interview |
that gender identity conversations are being
had to second and third graders, which is totally false, that we're teaching
critical race theory in our high schools, which is totally false. It's all
just misinformation and it's pitted teachers against parents and it's just
sad. |
15:52 |
Jade
walks with Anita in school corridor |
ANITA: There is a palpable fear in the state
of Florida right now. You wonder if you're going to do something |
16:12 |
Anita
interview in classroom |
that might be perceived as legally wrong.
So, the normal pressure on a teacher to come in the classroom, do your best
job, meet every learner's needs, bring every child to their full potential –
on top of that, we wonder, are we going to say the wrong thing? |
16:23 |
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JADE MACMILLAN, Reporter: English teacher Anita Hatcher is a 36-year
veteran of the public school system. |
16:42 |
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Have you ever seen any signs of teachers
trying to impose a certain ideology on students trying to, in the words of
the governor, indoctrinate them? ANITA: Not ever. Not in any state I've
taught in. Not ever. |
16:49 |
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JADE MACMILLAN, Reporter: Where do you think
that comes from? ANITA I can only guess, based on my life
experiences, that the Governor of the State of Florida has some deep-seated
fear that is coming out as prejudice and coming out as legislation. And he's
tapping into this fear that other people have and he's making a political
career out of it. |
17:05 |
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JADE MACMILLAN, Reporter: For Anita, it's personal. Do students ever confide in you, tell you
things that they're not comfortable telling their parents? ANITA: Absolutely. And not only do students
confide in me; it was the teachers that my child confided in before he talked
to me that saved his life. |
17:33 |
Family
photo. Ethan as toddler |
JADE
MACMILLAN, Reporter: Anita's 17-year-old son, Ethan, is transgender. She's sent him to live with family in
another state because she feared for his safety in Florida. ANITA: My heart breaks
every day that I'm not with him. |
17:53 |
Anita
interview |
When he was a baby, I prayed over his crib
that he would be independent because I was a 41 year old
new mother, and I got exactly what I prayed for. So
it really is about doing the right thing when it's the hardest thing you've
ever done. |
18:09 |
Sarasota
GVs |
RADIO: "To the new
developments in the education battle unfolding at New College in Sarasota. It
has major implications for Governor DeSantis and his plan to influence what
students learn in Florida." RADIO 2: "It is a
gorgeous day, but it's going to be a warm one." |
18:32 |
Jade
walks New College grounds. Students protest DeSantis |
JADE
MACMILLAN, Reporter: I'm back in Sarasota, on the tranquil grounds of New College.
This public
campus of less than 700 students calls itself a community of free
thinkers. It's now at the centre of the governor's war over education. Ron DeSantis
says the college has been captured by woke ideology. |
18:47 |
Media
guy leads Jade to press area |
PR GUY: Are you guys all
camera or are you print? JADE MACMILLAN, Reporter:
Camera. Yep. PR GUY: So, you'll see we
have like a big taped-off area with all cameras and it's going to be a
jungle. |
19:11 |
|
JADE MACMILLAN, Reporter: He's overhauled its leadership, appointing
six conservative members to its board. Today they'll vote on a motion to
abolish the college's office that provides support programs for people of
different races, genders, and sexual orientations. The governor wants these
offices scrapped at all state colleges and universities, arguing they create
division. |
19:23 |
Board
meeting |
TRUSTEE SPALDING: This is discrimination; it
should be gone. AUDIENCE: It's inclusion! |
19:47 |
|
JADE MACMILLAN,
Reporter: The make-up of the board means the vote is a foregone conclusion,
but students and parents have turned out anyway to be heard. |
19:54 |
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CHAIRPERSON: This is the
time for public comment. At the end of a minute, your time will be done, the
microphone will cut off, and we ask that you please yield to the next
speaker. |
20:03 |
Mother
addresses meeting |
MOTHER: Thank you. My son
is a student here who is looking at transferring, which I know doesn't matter
to you. You've been very clear that you are happy to help relocate students
who don't support your vision for their school. I hope that the kind of
educational derailment and utter disrespect that you are currently showing my
child is never suffered by one of yours. |
20:14 |
Sam
addresses meeting |
SAM: This has been a
hostile takeover of the top five public liberal arts college that we call
home. It's absurd that some of these trustees couldn't even be here today
because they don't even live in Florida. They were handpicked by DeSantis
because of their commitment to culture war grifting. |
20:52 |
Parents
chant |
AUDIENCE: Shame on you!
Shame on you! Shame on you! CHAIRPERSON: Time is up.
Okay, so we had the motion, it's been seconded. Can we do a roll call vote on
that, please? |
21:07 |
Trustees
vote |
BOARD SECRETARY: Trustee Bauerlein? BAUERLEIN: Yes. BOARD SECRETARY: Trustee Karp? KARP: Yes. BOARD SECRETARY: Trustee Keenan? KEENAN: No. |
21:14 |
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BOARD SECRETARY: Trustee
Kesler? KESLER: Yes. |
21:19 |
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BOARD SECRETARY: Trustee
Rufo? RUFO: Yes. BOARD SECRETARY: Trustee
Ruez? RUEZ: No. |
21:22 |
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BOARD SECRETARY: Trustee
Spalding? SPALDING: Yes. BOARD SECRETARY: Trustee
Speir? SPEIR: Yes. |
21:26 |
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BOARD SECRETARY: Chair
Jinks? JINKS: Yes. BOARD SECRETARY: Vice chair Christaldi. CHRISTALDI: Yes. BOARD SECRETARY: Motion passes. CHAIRPERSON: Motion passes,
okay. |
21:31 |
Sam
on skateboard |
JADE
MACMILLAN, Reporter: Student Sam Sharf says it's all about politics, not
education. SAM: As an authoritarian
figure in Florida with unlimited power to do as he pleases, he gets to basically
make this his testing ground to begin taking over institutions. |
21:38 |
Sam
interview |
And he's obviously doing
this in a way to posture for his presidential campaign, to boost his resume among the
ultra-conservative base. And it's disheartening that we are just like
political pawns in his game of politics and optics. |
21:57 |
Marvin
on bus |
Music |
22:15 |
|
MARVIN: I was born in 1940 in central
Florida. I entered white people's houses through the back door. I drank from
the coloured water fountain. I sat on the back of the bus. And
even as a child, that hurt. |
22:50 |
|
"Just make a left at the end of this
road and it's two miles down there." |
23:13 |
Marvin
on laptop |
JADE MACMILLAN,
Reporter: Dr Marvin Dunn has been an educator for more than 50 years. He's one of governor
DeSantis's most outspoken critics. |
23:24 |
Marvin
interview at home |
MARVIN: I was teaching at
Florida International University for four years before DeSantis was born, and
now he comes and tells me what I can and cannot teach in my classroom? This
is out… it's outrageous. I simply won't stand for it. |
23:33 |
|
JADE MACMILLAN, Reporter: Dr Dunn
has spent decades researching and teaching Florida's black history. He claims the governor is trying to
sanitise it. |
23:50 |
|
MARVIN: The experience of
black people in Florida has been very, very violent. And we should not be
surprised at that. Florida was a part of the confederacy during the Civil
War, and a lot of people who had those racist attitudes came down into
Florida and blacks paid the price for that. |
24:00 |
|
JADE MACMILLAN, Reporter: Dr Dunn has challenged legislation known as
the Stop Woke Act, which says racial history can't be taught in a way that
"indoctrinates" students or instructs them to feel guilty because
of their race. |
24:17 |
|
MARVIN: I was the principal of a high school
for 15 years, 15 years. If one of my teachers had told a white student, you
should feel guilty for what happened during slavery, that teacher would've
been out of my building that day. I wouldn't have stood for it. It's not
happening in Florida. I don't know a single school where a white kid is being
told you should feel guilty. It is DeSantis's big lie, and most people
believe this. |
24:31 |
|
JADE MACMILLAN, Reporter: Why do you think
the governor has introduced this particular piece of
legislation? |
24:56 |
|
MARVIN: The governor has
introduced this legislation because he wants to be president. The governor's
doing this to attract the extreme right wing of his party and he's
intentionally creating a monster just so he can be the one that slays it –
this woke mob thing he came up with. This is going to be the next president
of the United States? I hope not. |
25:01 |
Marvin
leading tour to Rosewood |
JADE MACMILLAN, Reporter: Dr Dunn has responded to the Stop Woke Act
by organising what he calls "Teach the truth" tours. Today he's
brought a group of students and their parents to the former town of Rosewood. |
25:33 |
|
MARVIN: The main reason I want you to walk
all the way here was to be able to see that between us and that bus was
downtown Rosewood. That's where the juke joint was. Some of you are too young
to know what a juke joint was. Well, that's where people partied, the club. |
25:46 |
|
JADE
MACMILLAN, Reporter: Once a thriving, mostly black, community, Rosewood was
burned to the ground in 1923 after a white woman claimed to have been
assaulted by a black man. Survivors
fled into the surrounding swamps. This path is what remains of a railroad
that allowed some people to escape. |
25:58 |
Marvin
with Jade at Rosewood |
MARVIN: Lives were saved on this railroad track by a white man and his
wife. White people helped us in Rosewood and that should be recognised. This
was the path to safety. That makes this spot sacred. |
26:20 |
|
JADE
MACMILLAN, Reporter: Dr
Dunn has purchased this land and hopes to turn it into a park. |
26:34 |
Marvin
addresses tour, plants roses and azaleas |
MARVIN: No governor, no president can take our history away. And
that's why we're here, not to make anybody angry, not to upset anybody. We're
here for our own purposes. |
26:43 |
|
JADE MACMILLAN, Reporter: With
the help of the students, he's planting roses and azaleas – flowers that
bloomed here 100 years ago. |
26:56 |
|
Music |
27:07 |
|
MARVIN: I don't think most Americans, white
or black, conservative or liberal, like what's going
on. This stuff may play well in Florida. But will it work in Pennsylvania?
Will it work in Michigan? Ohio? Even if he wins the presidency, even if he
wins it two terms, this is a side-track for our country. This is not us. This
will pass. |
27:10 |
Jade
driving |
Music |
27:37 |
|
RADIO: "America enters unchartered
waters this week as former President Trump was indicted on 34 criminal
charges. Did you see this bump in the polls for Trump? Trump widening his
lead after the news of the indictment came out. Question is whether or not this type of momentum can be
sustained." |
27:44 |
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JADE MACMILLAN, Reporter: Donald
Trump continues to hold a substantial lead over Ron DeSantis as the preferred
Republican nominee. The Florida governor is yet to
confirm he's running. Donald Trump and
his supporters are preparing for a fight. |
28:08 |
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MAGA MARY: I never had a warm and fuzzy
feeling about Ron DeSantis. I mean, |
28:28 |
Trump
supporter Mary |
I voted for him. He's, so far, he's been a
good Governor. But this presidential run… We won't be happy. We'll have to
choose. And I'm afraid Governor DeSantis will be on the losing side. |
28:33 |
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