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Behind these walls lie secrets
the Church hoped to keep hidden.
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Saint-Maurice Abbey,
is 1,500 years old.
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A Catholic mecca
occupied by canons
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who have taken a vow
of obedience and chastity.
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The Valais institution
has long escaped scandal,
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and seems to be immune to cases
of sexual abuse in the Church.
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And yet,
the victims are numerous,
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but no one has ever
believed their testimonies.
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Things are hushed up,
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victims are passed off
as crazy,
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to the point that
they dare not speak.
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So can we talk, because
it’s
becoming a taboo subject?
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The entire image
of the Church is collapsing.
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By not talking about it, it doesn't exist.
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Our investigation reveals
that nine priests from Saint-Maurice
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are accused of sexual abuse
or pedocriminality.
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Cases are often ignored
and concealed by the hierarchy.
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We've been working for weeks to
uncover Saint-Maurice's secrets.
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We had to find victims,
court documents
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and convince sources
in the abbey to help us.
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We have identified nine priests
with business connections.
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Our investigation begins with a testimony
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of a victim
of a canon still in office.
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A priest from Saint-Maurice
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accused of sexually assaulting
a child in 2004.
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Mélanie
Bonnard was 12 years old.
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It all happened in her living room.
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I was at home,
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my brother was being baptized.
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The priest was invited to eat.
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I walked past him,
he was on the couch.
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He took me with one arm,
and touched me with the other hand.
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He started to touch me on my chest.
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Actually, I
had a blue top on,
so
he put his hand in my top, then took it down,
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Then he reached under my skirt
and put his fingers in.
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I could feel his hard tip
and his fingers.
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He made me...
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he penetrated me with his hands.
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Well, foreplay, let's say it like that.
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At the age of 12,
did you understand what's going on?
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No, not at all.
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I remember
that I tried to scream,
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but I couldn't.
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It was as if I had become
voiceless at that moment.
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I couldn't speak, I couldn't.
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There was no sound coming out of my mouth.
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I don't know how,
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but I elbowed him in the lower abdomen
and that's when he let me go.
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At 12, she already has to convince her
mother.
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Then she has to file a complaint.
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A psychiatrist commissioned by the courts
attests to the credibility of her testimony.
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The priest
refutes all accusations.
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Melanie's word is not believed
and the case is closed.
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In a police report,
the examining magistrate
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orders the inspectors
to limit their search,
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to prevent them from finding
other clues or victims.
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For Melanie, the investigation was botched
to protect the Church's image.
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I was dead inside.
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I didn't care how the events turned out.
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I had to actually
try to do justice,
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to try by any means to
make myself heard, to speak.
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Thanks to some friends,
I managed to film him without his knowledge.
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as I was so desperate to confront him with the facts.
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I confronted him.
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In 2016, she arranged
a meeting with the canon
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under the pretext of a confession.
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I had a camera hidden
in a car key. And I filmed it.
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Under a false name, she tells him
she was sexually abused.
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At first, she doesn't give
identity of her attacker.
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It was an acquaintance
who started to touch me, to touch my breasts,
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so
for me, it's... I always have this image in my head
that he was the first man who touched me
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when I was a child, actually.
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I'm not a pyschologist, but
it doesn't seem too serious to me.
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I mean, there was no rape.
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I have to confess something to you.
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I lied to you.
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My name isn't Sarah.
Okay.
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I'm called Melanie Bonnard.
Okay.
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Does that not remind you?
No.
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You don't remember being invited to my family's house?
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To baptise my little brother?
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It's you.
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It's you.
You, precisely.
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You who touched me underneath my skirt.
This skirt here.
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This skirt!
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This skirt here.
Sorry?
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I was wearing this skirt here.
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I was 12 years old.
12 years old.
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When my whole family were in the living room,
you were doing wehat?
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You were touching me.
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You were touching my breasts,
and your hand was under my skirt on my knickers
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I felt that you were erect.
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I felt that. I didn't know what was happening to me,
because I was 12.
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I was a child.
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He doesn't answer
you at any point.
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No.
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What does he say next?
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It goes on the same after that.
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So
I turned up the heat.
I called him a pedophile.
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And then after that, he started to not get angry.
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But he told me that I have no right to say that.
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I cut it short and left.
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He doesn't confess?
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No.
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We contacted the priest,
who did not wish to reply.
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The canon has always denied
the accusations.
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It should be pointed out that the
courts
did not condemn him.
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The case was dismissed.
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Another Saint-Maurice case
concerns a second priest:
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a deceased canon.
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His victim was 5 years old.
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Dominique Mure suffered
repeated sexual abuse
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in the 60s.
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He took official steps with the
Church to have the abuse recognised.
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Today, Dominique is a man beaten down by life.
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As a child, I was abused
by my uncle, a canon.
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I think especially when I was most often at my grandmother's
house.
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I used to run away from home, because
family history was hard.
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I would go to the barn, because we were
farmers.
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He'd come there for two or three days...
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We were certainly talking about touching, penetration,
I don't know, but in any case touching
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The person I reported
was the family priest.
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The priest was the one
who knew everything.
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He represented the glorification
of the family in Catholicism.
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His memories are fragmented,
he was barely 5 years old.
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He lacks details and evidence.
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He was never able to confront
the canon, who died in 2003.
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Dominique requested access
to the Saint-Maurice archives
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to obtain the priest's file.
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Is this noted
in the archives?
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Yes, and there may be other victims
who filed there.
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But I don't know.
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Why are the other victims
important?
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If a victim submits more precise details,
it helps ro build a picture.
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The gathering of different people
can be evidence
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Dominique has an appointment
with the abbey archivist.
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Our camera remains outside.
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Inside, the exchange is polite
and lasts 30 minutes.
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Dominique obtains some documents
and details about the priest's life,
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but comes away empty-handed.
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Did he open the archives?
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No.
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But according to his statement,
he explained the contents to me.
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And there's an interesting discovery: he was an organiser
of concerts for young people.
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Interesting stuff.
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Any other victims?
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Potentially
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Dominique is not the only victim
looking for answers.
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We have collected
more testimonials.
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Often anonymous,
sometimes by mail or telephone.
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These testimonials have enabled us
to identify nine priests,
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all linked to cases of sexual abuse
or pedocriminality.
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Of these, only three
have been criminally convicted.
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This canon was arrested
by the police in 1999 and again in 2004
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for sharing
child pornography videos.
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This other priest
is also convicted.
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At the time of his first arrest,
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he receives a simple warning
from the police
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and continues to teach
at the Collège de Saint-Maurice.
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A missed opportunity, because he is
caught again
three years later.
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The canon sexually abused
children throughout his life,
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except in Valais, according to the courts.
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Other canons
were
not tried,
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but simply reported to the Church.
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This is the case of Dominique's priest,
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who was the subject
an official report.
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This is the case of another priest
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reported by a victims' associations.
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Apparently, he liked to take
girls to his room alone.
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A total of nine priests.
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Some still active,
others deceased.
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A figure that raises questions about the scale.
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One of the leading experts
teaches at the University of Lausanne.
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Josselin Tricou wrote the book
"Of Cassocks and Men".
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Certain places, such as Saint-Maurice,
concentrate all the factors facilitating abuse.
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A community with total power,
whose control is remote,
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with schools, better aill
boarding schools,
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where children are controlled
exclusively by priests.
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We have an explosive cocktail
where it's not surprising,
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statistically, to discover
many abuses.
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Saint-Maurice
is not just a monastery.
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There are parishes,
a former boarding school
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and a high school
with a canon as rector.
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It was precisely in the college,
in 1900 and ninety-seven,
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that an incident was
first publicised.
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Confirmation comes from
the Abbey of Saint-Maurice.
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A canon is indeed
in custody today.
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Long-time teacher at the college is
the suspected paedophile.
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The image of the abbey, however, recieves
limited damage.
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The case is presented as isolated and unique.
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Aware that the image
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of the congregation may suffer
from these accusations,
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the abbey will support him in its prayers.
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The Church's challenge was to keep
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the image of a holy, perfect, and
hierarchical institution,
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where men set apart and made sacred
had all power over the faithful.
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The challenge was to keep face
institutionally,
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that is to say to
keep this image
of perfection than to manage individual cases.
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In Saint-Maurice, management refused
our request for an interview.
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By mail,
we are told that the abbey
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respects the Church's rules
regarding sexual abuse.
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An unsatisfactory response
for victims.
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Marie-Jo Aeby and Guilhem Lavignotte
are members of SAPEC,
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an association to help
for people abused in the church.
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Everyone says it and everyone knows it.
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Today, things are happening.
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Shame is no longer on the side
of the victims.
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It's on the side of the religious institutions.
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I think things are really changing at the moment.
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We have submitted to SAPEC
our list of priests
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involved in cases.
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This comes as no surprise to Marie-Jo Aeby.
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We're always talking about "isolated cases".
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It's a whole system!
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I hope that, in time,
we'll realise it.
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It's a system of abuse.
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What should happen
at the abbey?
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I don't know what,
but it's time to clean up.
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The truth has to be told.
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It's not possible
to go on like this.
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The leaders
of Saint-Maurice Abbey
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are chosen from among the canons,
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priests who answer only to the Vatican
or to God.
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These men must deal with
cases of paedocriminality
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and support victims.
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However, the top of the hierarchy
is involved in cases.
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Not only is Father Jean Scarcella
is accused of sexual abuse,
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but his replacement,
Roland Jaquenoud,
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is also
the subject of accusations.
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He allegedly abused a subordinate.
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The walls of secrecy
are cracking.
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May God Almighty
have mercy on us.
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May he forgive us our sins
and lead us to eternal life.
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Good evening, Nicolas Betticher.
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Good evening.
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You've alerted the Vatican...
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In September, Nicolas Betticher,
former vicar general
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of the Diocese of Fribourg
reported omerta in the Church.
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In a confidential letter,
he accuses members of the clergy,
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in particular Abbot Scarcella
of Saint-Maurice.
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This is file number one
of our survey.
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It's impossible for the abbey
to avoid scandal.
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Abbot Scarcella
is accused of sexual assault.
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Betticher's
letter
is kept secret by the Church.
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But we managed to
obtain this document.
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We read the accusations
against Father Scarcella.
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The document mentions
additional victims,
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but no names are given.
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The Abbot did not wish
to give any details.
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He retired from his position
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during the internal investigation
within the Church.
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In the face of scandal, the Catholic
Church makes promises.
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The same week as the withdrawal
of Abboy Scarcella,
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the Bishops' Conference
presents results
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of a study on sexual abuse.
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A study entrusted to the
University of Zurich by the Swiss bishops.
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It is difficult to admit that fundamental,
poorly understood features,
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of the Catholic Church
allowed and encouraged abuses.
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The Church acknowledges errors
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and asks forgiveness
to the many victims.
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In the future, they would be listened to
and abusive priests punished.
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The Church would have changed.
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However,
the direction of Saint-Maurice
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is entrusted to Roland Jaquenoud.
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He holds the prestigious position of Prior at the abbey.
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Let us acclaim the word of God.
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To reassure the faithful,
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he publishes this message
on the abbey's website.
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We didn't stop
at these fine words.
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It was not easy, but we tracked
down former canons.
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They all say the same thing:
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Roland Jaquenoud,
then head of training,
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took advantage of the vulnerability
of an aspiring priest
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to obtain sexual intercourse.
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A former priest
accepted an interview.
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Roland Jaquenoud has been accused of
having sexual relations with juniors.
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Simply imagining abuse is already difficult.
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But on top of that, reporting abuse calls
into question the entire church,
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and it remains to be somehting
difficult,
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because every Sunday at mass,
we say 'I believe in the church'.
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The abbey is trying
to hush up the affair,
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but a novice alerts the Vatican.
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There was a report made, and then Rome mandated this Benedictine
Abbot
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to come and equete. What we call a
canonical visitation, in fact.
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Roland Jaquenoud
is not brought to justice.
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He is moved abroad.
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The scandal is avoided, the secret
remains within the abbey walls.
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I think it was the practice at the time.
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Generally speaking at the Abbey, it was
in any case, a climate,
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in my opinion, with hindsight and from the outside
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which was very favorable to abuse
because
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there was little respect for people
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Officially,
Roland Jaquenoud's move
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is not linked
to a case of sexual abuse.
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It's a voluntary departure
to Kazakhstan.
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A call of faith
in a former USSR country
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to the Christian community
community.
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Roland Jaquenoud leaves to teach
theology courses
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in small provincial towns,
before moving on to the capital, Astana.
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For our survey,
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we asked for help
from Guilhem Lavignotte,
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member of the SAPEC association
which supports victims of abuse.
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He knows Saint-Maurice very well.
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Carillonneur by profession,
he often played there.
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This bond of trust enabled him
to gather testimonials.
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A victim told me
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that after sexual misconduct
by the novice master,
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He had complained to Rome
by writing a letter.
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In the Jaquenoud case,
master of novices at the time,
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witnesses and the victim
were punished.
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Novices left Saint-Maurice
and never became priests.
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Roland Jaquenoud returned in 2015
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to take up the post of prior
at Saint-Maurice.
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In September 2023,
he replaces Father Scarcella.
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This is immense hypocrisy.
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Just imagine:
the abbot, who is under investigation.
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He benefits from presumption of innocence.
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During the investigation,
he puts someone in his place
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he knows for a fact was in
trouble a few years ago.
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The schizophrenic behavior
of the institution is demonstrated!
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The return of Roland Jaquenoud
as the head of the Abbey
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raises questions.
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According to a former canon,
even the Pope knew about it.
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The late John Paul II
would have made this check
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in the presence of several members
of the Bishops' Conference.
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For victims' associations,
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this is further proof
of the law of silence in the Church.
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The trust is broken
with the management of Saint-Maurice.
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But how do they think this will happen?
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It's like giving the stick to be beaten with.
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When we became aware
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of what was happening,
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we were horrified.
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This is not the image
we had of Saint-Maurice.
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We had contacts, notably with Mr Scarcella, who was very friendly.
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In October 2022,
when I reported a case to him,
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he kindly replied that there was
there was nothing in the archives.
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I was naive at the time,
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I did not realize to what extent everything
that could have been in the archives
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and that could harm the image of
the institution was destroyed.
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How many victims
were
not listened to?
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How many cases were covered up?
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Faced with the questions raised by our investigation,
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religious authorities
remained silent.
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When contacted, none of the
Saint-Maurice management
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wished to speak.
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The Swiss Bishops' Conference
also declined to be interviewed.
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The Vatican was also contacted,
but did not respond.