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- This is a very safe community.

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People come here from all over

the world to study and learn

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and to grow, so when something happens

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here, it does have a special significance.

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I think the fact

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that it happened in my state, the fact

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that it happened in North

Carolina, one of the beacons

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of forgiveness and universal thinking

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and acceptance broke my heart.

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- When I see photos of Dia, USDA,

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and Raan, they hit you so viscerally.

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Because I grew up with kids

like that, I immediately knew

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who they were and I

immediately knew their story.

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- They were so successful,

so beautiful, so amazing.

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Everything was going their way.

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- What happened at Chapel Hill will be

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with the Muslim community forever.

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- You really have to ask

why. Why were they targeted?

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It was 36 seconds of hell.

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- Orange County 9 1 1. What's

the address of your emergency?

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- I just heard gunshots.

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I don't know what building it came from,

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but I heard kids screaming.

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- When you say the screaming, was it,

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were they screaming words or,

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- No, just screaming and

it was multiple voices.

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- I was working at Smart Courier.

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I finished most of what I wanted to do,

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and then I called my mom.

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She was like, have you

heard from your brother?

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Have you heard from your

brother? And I'm like, no.

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And then she said something

about someone from the dentistry

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school calling her

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and saying, there might

have been a shooting on UNCs

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campus at the hospitals.

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- Little after five

o'clock in the afternoon,

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officers responded to Report of Gunshots.

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- I was in the newsroom getting ready

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for our 11:00 PM broadcast.

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All we knew and all we could report

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that night was there was a shooting.

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And so that's what we led with.

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- The nature of this call is

such that it's the kind of call

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where everybody goes to the scene.

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- I had just completed a

procedure on a 15 year old's boy,

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and my cell phone starts

lighting up with texts

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of condolences

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and I have no idea what

they're talking about.

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I thought maybe they had

like the wrong person,

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and surely I would know

about something happening

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to my family before everyone else.

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- I just look up Chapel Hill shootings

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and I see something about

Summer Walk circle and I'm like,

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- Shit,

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- That's my brother's address.

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- Then I called DIA's cell phone

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and it's going straight to voicemail.

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I called my father, I

said, dad, what's going on?

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He says, we don't really

know anything yet,

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but there has been a shooting somewhere

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in DIA's neighborhood.

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- We get there. The police

won't let us go through.

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Police was being an asshole.

They couldn't tell us address.

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They couldn't tell us was

what their, are their bodies

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or are they on the way to the hospital?

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- They kept us in the dark

for about three or four hours

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and it felt like forever.

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Part of the challenge in a a multi-family

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neighborhood is managing a

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- Scene.

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My dad pulls up a little bit later

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- And from what the police officer said,

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they have not even walked

into the apartments

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- Yet.

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I remember seeing a middle-aged

man with a goatee in glasses

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beyond frustrated.

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- Tell me how my son is.

What's his situation?

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If he's dead, tell me he's dead.

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If he's alive, tell me he is alive.

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Just tell me straight up.

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- And then later they

confirmed it was three bodies

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- And they think that it might be Dia

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and I just kind of collapsed to the floor

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and I say something along the lines

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that I think my brother's

just been killed.

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- Charlie, come on.

- So

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soon as I start talking

about him, I start crying.

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- Yeah, he was always a

lot of fun playing at home,

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any kind of game, playing

with his brother and sister.

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- He like felt

uncomfortable with his ears.

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I think I remember

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because as a kid his

ears were, were too big.

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He tasted like the bullying, whether

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or not belonging kind of, and

I think what was special was

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that he kind of held

onto that enough to know

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to not treat others like that.

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- But yeah, he was always busy

with basketball watching it

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or if there was any kind of tournament,

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he's right there playing in them.

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- He would take breaks every

15 minutes for studying

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to go play basketball.

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But there was definitely a shift.

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And this happened in college where he kind

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of got his act together

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and decided he wanted to be a dentist

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- And I'm gonna go into the mouth

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and go right in there and clean it.

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Okay. The

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- Everybody, he talks to

stranger acquaintance,

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he develops a personal

relationship with them,

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makes them feel special to him.

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- I was on my way home from work,

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I received a phone call

from Layla DIA's mother.

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She was frantic and she said she heard

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Dia was involved in the shooting.

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I picked up Amir and my wife

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and we drove in my car to Chapel Hill.

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- They were all worried for at first,

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but Yu wasn't answering her phone either.

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- I called my parents, my

father said, Yusef, relax.

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I'm with your mom. We're

on the way to Chapel Hill.

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We're gonna figure this out.

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- We got to the scene. It was cold, dark

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police cars, a couple of TV vans,

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and what made me know

exactly what happened is

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that the police had the crisis

workers come and talk to us.

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Please don't talk to

me. I'm a psychiatrist.

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I know who you are. I know

what you're talking about.

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- My phone was getting flooded

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with text messages, condolences.

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At this point I understood

that D didn't make it.

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- Yes, sir. Was so full of energy.

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She was so full of play and fun that

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whenever she had her friends

over, she would play and play

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and play and talk and talk

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and talk until she loses

her voice. Literally,

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- This is your social

- Room.

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Her nickname Suso, and

this is her certificate.

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She graduated from NC State Human Biology.

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Those mothers actually was four youth.

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She received them while was

playing soccer, basketball.

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- Oh,

- Growing up in America

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has been such a blessing and

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although in some ways I do

stand out such as, you know,

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the hijab, it's beautiful to see people

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of different areas interacting and,

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and being family, being,

you know, one community.

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- She was at a great point in her life.

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You know, she had just graduated.

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She had a job and, and she was

just ready, ready for life.

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She met the, they fell in love.

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They got engaged and she said,

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I wanna do the same thing the guy's doing.

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I want to go to dental school.

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- There wasn't anything games,

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but everything was

really like a fairytale.

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A lot of music, a lot of

dancing, a lot of tears and fun.

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It was really an awesome night.

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- She looked like a princess

and he was the prince.

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She was very beautiful.

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- Yeah. How do you feel right now?

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My heart is slowing down.

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- They escorted us to the

clubhouse of that neighborhood,

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and I remember seeing my

wife Emira sitting on a chair

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and holding her stomach

and rocking back and forth

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and crying

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and just saying, oh God.

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Oh God. Oh God. I froze

there emotionally. I froze.

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I could not cry. I could not

talk. I cannot not smile.

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I could not think,

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- What am I gonna do about, I'm like,

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and I, we're gonna get

my parents through this.

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We're gonna get through

this together as a family.

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And my father calls me

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and he said, Yusef, why did

we study the interpretation

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of Quran for the past five years?

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I said, well, but we study

it for reasons like this.

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We study this for the test.

We're gonna pass these tests.

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I mean, I could barely breathe.

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I, I could barely get these words out,

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but they had to be, the

first words I said in has,

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he's about to get off of the phone,

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and I remember that

there's a third victim,

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and so I, I asked my dad

who the third victim was,

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and he didn't want to answer.

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He tried to get off the phone again.

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He said, if I gotta go Baba,

just just tell me. Tell me

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- Who was it.

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- And he said, he said her name.

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He said, Anne, it was

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so sudden my baby sister's gone too.

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- Is

- Za room my baby?

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We used to call her Zzi.

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- Anne was unique from day number one.

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She had artistic tendencies and skills.

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She was an avid reader, curious child.

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- She was a character for sure.

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She was spunky and she

was artistic and creative.

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- Very stop.

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- You know, one time we

grabbed a couple of books

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and had breakfast at Chick-fil-A

and then we drove over

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and literally just sat

and read on the beach

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and just enjoyed each

other's company really,

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- Anne, she would just wake

up every morning thinking

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of other people.

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She organized the Feed the

Hungry Campaign in downtown

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Raleigh where they cooked

and they, they packaged foods

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and household items and they went,

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they distributed it to the homeless.

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She saw what was going on.

For example, in 2014 in Gaza.

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She's like, how can I help?

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She started painting

these beautiful doves.

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She painted maybe hundreds of them,

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and she would sell them at,

at these charity events and,

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and that money she would

donate to, to Gaza. We

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- Out here, we are here on these streets.

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On, on these streets.

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- She was 18 years old, but she

was no ordinary 18-year-old.

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- There's - No one that I

have ever been able to find

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and knew these kids didn't think

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that they were absolutely the greatest.

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- You have these moments where

it's almost like I can see

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their entire life unfolding and

I was like, I know this kid.

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Like I grew up with kids like this.

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- Oh,

- We're all just basic brown kids in

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America who love basketball.

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No disrespect, but we, I mean, I mean

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that in the most loving way possible

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- For many people.

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The last time they saw

them was at their wedding.

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That was the last time I saw him,

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- And

- That was my goodbye.

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- Two days or one day

before her death. Yes, sir.

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Published on Facebook.

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Her picture with me

twirling her in the wedding

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and wrote down Dancing with Daddy.

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- Sometimes the question is

like, how, how can one person

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do so much to disturb the

lives of so many people?

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- How much did I lose that night?

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My fear was that maybe I did

not just lose my two daughters.

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Maybe I lost my wife and I lost my son.

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I must lost my business as a doctor.

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Maybe I lost everything.

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That night we went home and me

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and my wife prayed our

fifth prayer for the day

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and we praised God.

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We accepted his judgment.

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But projecting your destiny

and faith is not an option.

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Suicide is not option I

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and Amira, we knew who the murderer was.

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- Literally no one else would make sense

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- At that point in time,

my first thought was Hicks,

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a neighbor turned out to be

the suspect who within an hour

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or so turned himself in actually in a

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neighboring jurisdiction,

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- Not to be pan away.

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Get cuffs on the front of

me, not just right here.

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Okay, that's fine. I understand, sir.

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I'm not trying to be a pain, but

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- Excuse.

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- It's Craig Hicks, right? Yes, sir.

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You mind if I call you Craig?

Nope, that's fine. Okay.

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Don't make want. Just call

me Scott. That's fine.

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Right Late for dinner. You can,

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- I recall talking to our

investigators about how

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calm he was and how matter of fact he was,

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- My name is Craig Hicks.

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I just shot three people

in Chapel Hill. Okay.

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What, what type of gun is it? A say 2 29.

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Okay, what caliber? 2 0 3 57 Sig.

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Okay.

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- He described the confrontation

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and the subsequent actions that he took

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and they were struck by

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how normal the interaction seemed to be.

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As Hicks described it.

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- You shot him? Yep. I

pulled my gun out of it.

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Soldier shot him. I don't

know how many times.

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There were two girls over to

the left. They were screaming.

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One of 'em has had words with me before.

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I walked over and shot her

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and shot the other one,

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walked back out, got in my car and left

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- Speed with which he produced

a weapon and started firing.

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Suggest a level of intentionality.

That's hard to deny.

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- We knew who Craig Hicks was.

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The user told us that they had

a neighbor who harassed them,

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hated them, yelled at

them, was condescending,

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picked on everything they did.

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Who told her on two occasions

that he hated her, literally,

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and told her one occasion that he hated

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how she dressed and her she looked

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- Cup sauce.

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Okay. Is that that over

help? It's a little bit, yep.

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Look, you're fine. Not that

much. You're fine. Oh, sorry.

296
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- What's - Funny is when you

get somebody really little,

297
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oh, and try and get him in that suit

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and it's like, take about

marshmallow man and lay.

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- I can talk to people, even

if they're someone agitated,

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they're just completely

disrespectful to that.

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I can't talk to 'em 'cause

that shoot my blood pressure up

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and then my rage comes out.

303
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You know, you seem like a decent guy.

304
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If you're in my neighborhood, you were

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doing something wrong.

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I said something to you. You probably

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could sit down and talk to you.

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Be sure you guys sit down and talk it out.

309
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- Hey, officer Coon, Southville

Police at South Hill Police.

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Yeah. And you're coming here

to go to booking anything?

311
00:20:04,555 --> 00:20:07,500
Yeah, we got a triple

homicide in Durham County

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for a capitol address.

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Okay.

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- Any homicide is significant.

315
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Triple homicide is unheard

of in our community.

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This is a, in many ways

an internationally known

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university town.

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People come here from all over

the world to study and learn,

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and so it does draw a

significant amount of attention.

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- The media did become very fast.

321
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The story was airing

nationally, internationally.

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We knew that next day would be all media

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and people come into our

house and it was shocking

324
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and guts wrenching to see them on tv.

325
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- The news, it was so

chaotic, it was traumatic.

326
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And then

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- Police are saying that quote,

328
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an ongoing neighbor dispute

over parking may have been a

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factor in the killing.

330
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- Police tell us that a parking

dispute was really at the

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heart of this triple

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- Murder.

333
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Police say this may have

simply been a fight over

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parking spaces.

335
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- I can't say with my absolute belief

336
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that this incident had

nothing to do with religion

337
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or victim's faith.

338
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That in fact was related

339
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to the longstanding parking disputes that

340
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that my husband had with the neighbors.

341
00:21:41,860 --> 00:21:45,010
- How insulting the three

342
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jewels from our community murdered

343
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over a parking dispute?

344
00:21:53,620 --> 00:21:55,780
Does that make any sense to anyone?

345
00:21:55,780 --> 00:21:58,450
- Why I be, are they being portrayed

346
00:21:58,450 --> 00:22:02,050
as someone who's picking a

fight about a parking spots

347
00:22:02,050 --> 00:22:03,730
and dying for it?

348
00:22:03,730 --> 00:22:08,440
That is very insulting, very

inappropriate, very unfair.

349
00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:11,500
- You look at their academic pedigree,

350
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and I'm not even their parents.

351
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I'm like, these two don't go this far

352
00:22:16,180 --> 00:22:18,340
and accomplish so much just

353
00:22:18,340 --> 00:22:20,830
to get into parking lot scuffles.

354
00:22:20,830 --> 00:22:24,250
They're dominating in life

like capital D, dominating.

355
00:22:24,250 --> 00:22:27,970
They wouldn't just get

into a street brawl.

356
00:22:27,970 --> 00:22:29,650
- We knew what kind of children they were.

357
00:22:29,650 --> 00:22:32,800
They would not fight with

anybody about anything.

358
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They were very peaceful children.

359
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:40,300
- Our interest was to

share that this was not

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the beginning of some kind

361
00:22:43,150 --> 00:22:46,900
of coordinated attack

on our Muslim community.

362
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Folks in the Muslim community

were keeping the kids home

363
00:22:49,815 --> 00:22:52,870
from school that day and

and understandably so.

364
00:22:52,870 --> 00:22:55,870
The intent of our release was to

365
00:22:57,550 --> 00:22:59,230
address some of those concerns.

366
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- They tried to diffuse a situation.

367
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I don't think they had any idea

368
00:23:06,220 --> 00:23:10,570
who these three children were

and and who our community is

369
00:23:10,570 --> 00:23:12,010
and how strong our community is.

370
00:23:15,340 --> 00:23:18,310
- It was that statement

that had me so furious that

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made me want to make sure that,

372
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that the narrative was corrected.

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On February 11th, it's 7:00 AM

374
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My parents are in the living

room and I say, where's Dia?

375
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And I start crying

376
00:23:41,530 --> 00:23:43,720
and then I run upstairs

looking for my brother.

377
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I don't find him.

378
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I pull out my computer

379
00:23:56,570 --> 00:23:59,450
and that's when I decided

that we probably needed

380
00:23:59,450 --> 00:24:00,650
to do a press conference.

381
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,960
- Six weeks ago I cried tears

382
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:10,940
of joy at my baby brother's wedding.

383
00:24:12,110 --> 00:24:15,680
Today we are crying tears

of unimaginable pain

384
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:19,730
over the execution style

murders of my brother Dia,

385
00:24:19,730 --> 00:24:22,610
his bride Usea, and her younger sister

386
00:24:22,610 --> 00:24:24,500
and best friend Roseanne.

387
00:24:24,500 --> 00:24:26,450
We are still in a state of shock

388
00:24:26,450 --> 00:24:28,130
and we'll never be able to make sense

389
00:24:28,130 --> 00:24:29,900
of this horrendous tragedy.

390
00:24:29,900 --> 00:24:33,145
We ask that the authorities

investigate these senseless

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00:24:33,145 --> 00:24:35,570
and heinous murders as a hate crime.

392
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,400
- There are still many more

questions than answered about

393
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,860
what happened in these

apartments here last night.

394
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,540
- Craig Steven Hicks is

being held on three counts

395
00:24:47,540 --> 00:24:48,650
of first degree murder.

396
00:24:50,090 --> 00:24:52,315
- Craig Hicks is in the Durham

County Jail this morning.

397
00:24:52,315 --> 00:24:55,460
His first court appearance

is scheduled for 10:00 AM

398
00:24:55,460 --> 00:24:57,320
This is when everything

is really picked up.

399
00:24:58,190 --> 00:25:01,010
I was being interviewed

by the top reporters

400
00:25:01,010 --> 00:25:05,150
and journalists on CNN and

M-S-N-B-C and you name it,

401
00:25:06,380 --> 00:25:09,805
- Suzanne Barakat whose

brother was murdered on Tuesday

402
00:25:09,805 --> 00:25:13,520
along with his wife and his

wife's younger sister. This

403
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:17,630
- Was truly a group effort

lining up all of these

404
00:25:17,630 --> 00:25:20,540
national media interviews

for our families.

405
00:25:20,540 --> 00:25:21,770
- Tell us about your family.

406
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,880
- Tell you about my family.

It's short. Three members,

407
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:26,880
- Yusef Albu.

408
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,480
Sala is the brother of two of the victims.

409
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,420
- It's just we want justice.

We don't see revenge.

410
00:25:32,420 --> 00:25:33,830
We're very peaceful people, but we want

411
00:25:33,830 --> 00:25:35,810
to acknowledge something

when it's there. This

412
00:25:35,810 --> 00:25:39,650
- Incident is a hate crime as I see it.

413
00:25:39,650 --> 00:25:41,660
There was no time to

grieve, no time to sleep,

414
00:25:41,660 --> 00:25:42,800
no time to process.

415
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:46,490
I was just basically being

told, okay, you know,

416
00:25:46,490 --> 00:25:48,260
6:00 AM a car's coming to pick you up

417
00:25:48,260 --> 00:25:49,310
to your next interview.

418
00:25:50,270 --> 00:25:52,670
There was a Twitter media storm

419
00:25:52,670 --> 00:25:55,550
and really the entire American Muslim

420
00:25:55,550 --> 00:25:59,480
and even international Muslim

community rallied behind

421
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,400
getting attention to this story.

422
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,510
- Hello, my name is Hassam

Menina and I take on hate.

423
00:26:05,510 --> 00:26:08,660
I was at the Daily Show.

I'm looking at two things.

424
00:26:08,660 --> 00:26:11,780
I have the TV up in my office,

I have my phone in my hand

425
00:26:11,780 --> 00:26:13,580
and, and what the TV represents.

426
00:26:13,580 --> 00:26:15,260
That kind of flat screen is, is

427
00:26:15,260 --> 00:26:17,300
what is the mainstream media narrative.

428
00:26:17,300 --> 00:26:21,590
The commentary around it is

framing it as a parking dispute,

429
00:26:21,590 --> 00:26:22,790
but now we have a problem

430
00:26:22,790 --> 00:26:26,810
because as the days unfold,

you look at your phone

431
00:26:26,810 --> 00:26:29,480
and like a lot of social justice issues

432
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,490
that we've been seeing

over the past few years,

433
00:26:31,490 --> 00:26:33,950
the people are calling it for

what it's, they're like, I've,

434
00:26:33,950 --> 00:26:35,660
I've seen this thing play out.

435
00:26:35,660 --> 00:26:37,550
This is a hate crime, Dr.

436
00:26:37,550 --> 00:26:40,015
Bearcat, even if a hate crime designation

437
00:26:40,015 --> 00:26:42,145
for first degree murder

in North Carolina doesn't

438
00:26:42,145 --> 00:26:45,270
necessarily carry any added

legal penalties, can you tell us

439
00:26:45,270 --> 00:26:48,690
what meaning is there for you

in an official classification

440
00:26:48,690 --> 00:26:49,980
of the act as a hate crime?

441
00:26:51,360 --> 00:26:55,920
- I think it's important

regardless of the outcome

442
00:26:55,920 --> 00:27:00,660
to call it that, because

it changes so many things

443
00:27:00,660 --> 00:27:02,460
because this wasn't an isolated incident

444
00:27:02,460 --> 00:27:04,380
that just happened to my family.

445
00:27:04,380 --> 00:27:05,700
It's not okay.

446
00:27:05,700 --> 00:27:08,400
In the past week alone, aside from

447
00:27:09,810 --> 00:27:12,360
three family members being

shot in their own home,

448
00:27:12,360 --> 00:27:14,850
there was a mosque burnt down in Houston.

449
00:27:14,850 --> 00:27:16,830
There was a man shot

through his apartment door

450
00:27:16,830 --> 00:27:18,480
and killed in Ottawa.

451
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:22,830
There was someone badly

beat in Dearborn, Michigan,

452
00:27:22,830 --> 00:27:24,390
just in this past week.

453
00:27:24,390 --> 00:27:26,130
I don't need to dig far.

454
00:27:26,130 --> 00:27:29,520
We live in a time where today

it's socially acceptable.

455
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:33,630
It's politically advantageous

to demonize Muslims.

456
00:27:33,630 --> 00:27:37,260
- Muslims on a daily basis

when they turn the news

457
00:27:37,260 --> 00:27:39,450
or they turn on the tv,

458
00:27:39,450 --> 00:27:43,230
they see themselves being

murdered in people's consciousness

459
00:27:43,230 --> 00:27:44,490
on a daily basis.

460
00:27:44,490 --> 00:27:45,960
In terms of Suzanne Barakat,

461
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,265
Al's family are actually walking

462
00:27:49,265 --> 00:27:51,720
with a post-traumatic stress syndrome

463
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:53,705
because they're facing the crime time

464
00:27:53,705 --> 00:27:55,140
and time and time again.

465
00:27:55,140 --> 00:27:56,700
There is no moment for recovery.

466
00:28:03,300 --> 00:28:07,020
- Muslim Americans, like

any immigrant community like

467
00:28:07,020 --> 00:28:08,160
to belong to this country.

468
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:09,690
They're like to call this home.

469
00:28:13,020 --> 00:28:16,560
I'm my wife to are both

Jordanian citizens by birth.

470
00:28:18,090 --> 00:28:20,040
Then I realized it was very hard

471
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,820
to get graduate medical

education there, so I decided

472
00:28:23,820 --> 00:28:26,100
to come and have my graduate

education in the United States.

473
00:28:28,050 --> 00:28:31,265
Being a psychiatrist,

I've been seeing about 25

474
00:28:31,265 --> 00:28:34,230
to 30 patients a day

for the last 21 years.

475
00:28:34,230 --> 00:28:38,370
So I probably know more

about the intimate details

476
00:28:38,370 --> 00:28:42,990
of the American life

than some born Americans.

477
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:47,670
For me and Amira,

478
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:52,440
our challenge was we wanted

our children to belong

479
00:28:53,580 --> 00:28:56,400
because we lived four years all our lives.

480
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:57,450
So we knew the challenge.

481
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:03,800
I raised my children believing

that the land you live on

482
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:05,700
and the land you work at

483
00:29:05,700 --> 00:29:08,190
and the land you eat from is your home.

484
00:29:10,950 --> 00:29:13,680
- Growing up in the south,

485
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:17,250
as a Muslim American woman post nine 11,

486
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:22,590
it really started to

become that much clearer

487
00:29:22,590 --> 00:29:23,880
that I wasn't always welcome

488
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,850
and that was, that was

a culture shock for me

489
00:29:26,850 --> 00:29:28,980
because this is all I knew to be as home.

490
00:29:30,300 --> 00:29:34,290
I always felt like my role was to

491
00:29:35,340 --> 00:29:37,110
carry a representation of what it meant

492
00:29:37,110 --> 00:29:41,290
to be an American Muslim

woman, educated, kind,

493
00:29:41,290 --> 00:29:45,640
courteous, respectful, successful

494
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:46,660
because for many people,

495
00:29:46,660 --> 00:29:48,130
I was the only Muslim they've ever met.

496
00:29:52,300 --> 00:29:55,690
For people as kind and gentle

497
00:29:55,690 --> 00:30:00,190
and loving as Dia Sen and

Anne were would be killed.

498
00:30:03,250 --> 00:30:08,250
I realized that that approach

wasn't working anymore

499
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:09,850
and I don't think it ever worked.

500
00:30:12,700 --> 00:30:15,850
They're gone. They're

never gonna come back.

501
00:30:25,300 --> 00:30:28,660
The day of the funeral was

502
00:30:28,660 --> 00:30:32,470
the first time we were

given permission as families

503
00:30:33,550 --> 00:30:34,630
to see their bodies.

504
00:30:37,270 --> 00:30:40,060
Up until that point, it still wasn't real.

505
00:30:40,060 --> 00:30:43,420
'cause I, I still hadn't seen him

506
00:30:45,370 --> 00:30:49,300
walking in to the room,

507
00:30:49,300 --> 00:30:54,300
into his open casket trying

508
00:30:54,940 --> 00:30:58,060
to hold his hand.

509
00:30:58,060 --> 00:31:02,320
That was no longer moving.

510
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:08,380
That was rigid kissing his forehead.

511
00:31:10,750 --> 00:31:13,090
That was cold, that was blue,

512
00:31:15,250 --> 00:31:16,810
and seeing for the first time

513
00:31:18,910 --> 00:31:20,410
he was missing his front teeth.

514
00:31:27,670 --> 00:31:29,590
That was how I learned that

515
00:31:31,990 --> 00:31:33,010
he was shot in the mouth

516
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,830
and not only is it my baby brother,

517
00:31:40,540 --> 00:31:42,130
they were washing ER's body

518
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:48,415
and it was time to transfer

her into her casket and I

519
00:31:49,615 --> 00:31:53,920
- I

- I carried her cold feet

520
00:31:56,140 --> 00:31:57,940
into their final resting place

521
00:31:58,870 --> 00:32:00,520
and I felt like I had to be there.

522
00:32:02,980 --> 00:32:04,450
I couldn't look at her face though

523
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:12,490
Anne was next, she was

still actively bleeding

524
00:32:12,490 --> 00:32:17,410
from her head and I was

525
00:32:17,410 --> 00:32:21,070
having this internal struggle

of I need to do this for her,

526
00:32:22,485 --> 00:32:23,485
- But I couldn't.

527
00:32:30,100 --> 00:32:31,100
Sorry,

528
00:32:32,470 --> 00:32:35,560
- I couldn't and to this

day I feel like I failed her

529
00:32:40,430 --> 00:32:42,830
that I couldn't find the courage in me,

530
00:32:42,830 --> 00:32:46,940
the strength to hold her that one.

531
00:32:46,940 --> 00:32:47,940
Last time

532
00:32:59,810 --> 00:33:02,240
- Thursday, thousands

of mourners were on hand

533
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:03,800
to honor the memories of those three

534
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:05,240
victims during their funerals.

535
00:33:09,830 --> 00:33:11,185
Their caskets were carried

536
00:33:11,185 --> 00:33:14,600
to the method road soccer field

at NC State University near

537
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,570
the Islamic Center, 5,000

people who were in attendance,

538
00:33:23,450 --> 00:33:25,225
- The massive crowds that came to Mour

539
00:33:25,225 --> 00:33:28,040
and made it clear that Muslims

here feel a bubbling tide

540
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,350
of resentment that has boiled over.

541
00:33:30,350 --> 00:33:32,000
- They were just three innocent souls.

542
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:37,070
- Khadija Bar Saja was a

friend of the murdered couple.

543
00:33:37,070 --> 00:33:38,810
- So more than just a

544
00:33:38,810 --> 00:33:40,340
- Dispute, definitely,

545
00:33:40,340 --> 00:33:43,370
definitely more than just parking spot.

546
00:33:43,370 --> 00:33:44,540
Definitely a hate crime,

547
00:33:49,460 --> 00:33:52,040
- Grief, sadness, loss.

548
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:58,360
Despite all the pain we were not let hate

549
00:33:58,550 --> 00:33:59,960
and crime win.

550
00:34:01,490 --> 00:34:05,990
We will not, we'll not be

changed by these people.

551
00:34:05,990 --> 00:34:10,700
We refuse to. It'll be really

betraying them to do otherwise

552
00:34:10,700 --> 00:34:11,840
after they died for it.

553
00:34:19,970 --> 00:34:24,080
And that's why after the

funeral I talked in a way

554
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:25,520
that unites our country.

555
00:34:27,170 --> 00:34:31,485
We have no doubt why

they died. We're not sad.

556
00:34:33,185 --> 00:34:36,830
We have peace inside when we say

557
00:34:36,830 --> 00:34:39,320
that this was a hate crime.

558
00:34:40,370 --> 00:34:43,970
It is all about protecting

559
00:34:43,970 --> 00:34:46,670
all other children in USA.

560
00:34:46,670 --> 00:34:49,640
It's all about making this country

561
00:34:50,780 --> 00:34:53,690
that they loved and where they lived

562
00:34:53,690 --> 00:34:58,070
and died peaceful for everybody else.

563
00:34:58,070 --> 00:35:01,670
We need to identify things

the way they really are.

564
00:35:04,010 --> 00:35:06,920
We are walking a dark bath as a nation

565
00:35:07,850 --> 00:35:09,530
because of hate.

566
00:35:09,530 --> 00:35:13,730
Like Craig Hicks killing

my children like the Church

567
00:35:13,730 --> 00:35:18,730
of Christ massacre, like the

South Carolina Church massacre.

568
00:35:18,740 --> 00:35:22,310
All these start small

and they can grow big.

569
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:28,310
I call on the president,

the United States,

570
00:35:28,310 --> 00:35:29,395
Barack Obama.

571
00:35:29,395 --> 00:35:31,580
He involve the FBI.

572
00:35:31,580 --> 00:35:36,560
Please investigate this has

hate crime written all over it.

573
00:36:04,145 --> 00:36:08,460
- I grew up in a small town

that was largely all white

574
00:36:14,100 --> 00:36:17,760
and as a kid, I remember one Halloween,

575
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,310
someone soaked our driveway

576
00:36:20,310 --> 00:36:22,860
and said, niggers go home.

577
00:36:25,950 --> 00:36:27,240
I'm a 50-year-old man.

578
00:36:28,290 --> 00:36:31,770
This happened when I was

probably eight, nine years old.

579
00:36:33,030 --> 00:36:35,790
That memory is, is is seared in my brain,

580
00:36:40,050 --> 00:36:40,950
right outta law school.

581
00:36:40,950 --> 00:36:44,790
I joined the honors program

of the Department of Justice

582
00:36:44,790 --> 00:36:45,990
prosecuting hate crimes

583
00:36:45,990 --> 00:36:48,360
and police misconduct around the country.

584
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,810
Anything from vandalism at a mosque

585
00:36:51,810 --> 00:36:54,630
or synagogue to murder

586
00:36:56,430 --> 00:36:59,190
hate crimes are any crime

where the motivation

587
00:36:59,190 --> 00:37:02,670
of the perpetrator is based on the

588
00:37:02,670 --> 00:37:04,890
characteristic of the victim.

589
00:37:04,890 --> 00:37:08,220
So whether it be race,

religion, national origin,

590
00:37:08,220 --> 00:37:10,291
sexual orientation, when that is

591
00:37:10,291 --> 00:37:12,930
what motivates the perpetrator,

it is a crime of hate.

592
00:37:14,670 --> 00:37:18,660
- This was pure evil. There

was straight up racially

593
00:37:18,660 --> 00:37:20,430
motivated hate crime.

594
00:37:20,430 --> 00:37:24,210
- We have suffered a mass shooting

595
00:37:24,210 --> 00:37:26,910
with multiple casualties.

596
00:37:26,910 --> 00:37:30,120
This is the worst nightmare

597
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,790
that any community can face.

598
00:37:35,070 --> 00:37:36,690
- Hey, crime prosecution is important

599
00:37:36,690 --> 00:37:40,020
because just just imagine that

there was some characteristic

600
00:37:40,020 --> 00:37:42,180
of yours that you could not change.

601
00:37:42,180 --> 00:37:46,200
You can't hide it, you can't

run away from it is a part of

602
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:50,160
who you are is anyone would

target you based on that.

603
00:37:51,240 --> 00:37:54,120
That's the fear that hate crimes cause

604
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,760
- Do you have to have a lot

of hate in your heart for you

605
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,400
to be able to murder young students

606
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:00,480
in the way that they were murdered?

607
00:38:04,260 --> 00:38:06,780
- What happened at Chapel Hill will be

608
00:38:06,780 --> 00:38:09,180
with the Muslim community forever

609
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:14,010
and that's the power and

the danger of hate crimes.

610
00:38:17,940 --> 00:38:21,090
- I worked in the White House

in the Domestic Policy Council

611
00:38:21,090 --> 00:38:22,920
on immigration policy

612
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,530
and I actually ended up

taking over the hate crimes

613
00:38:25,530 --> 00:38:26,640
portfolio as well.

614
00:38:28,590 --> 00:38:30,960
- Federal

- Hate crimes laws were created

615
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,300
because states weren't

actually prosecuting.

616
00:38:33,300 --> 00:38:36,400
So decades ago when for example,

617
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,250
black people were being

targeted by the KKK

618
00:38:39,250 --> 00:38:42,010
and there were criminal laws

in place to prosecute them,

619
00:38:42,010 --> 00:38:43,780
prosecutors, law enforcement,

620
00:38:43,780 --> 00:38:45,820
they weren't pursuing those cases

621
00:38:45,820 --> 00:38:47,320
and they weren't pursuing them in parts

622
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,170
because they were allied

with the perpetrators

623
00:38:50,170 --> 00:38:53,205
In the sixties, there was a

shift towards putting some

624
00:38:53,205 --> 00:38:55,570
of this into federal prosecutions.

625
00:38:56,740 --> 00:39:00,040
- In order to prosecute a

hate crime, you have to have

626
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,410
a very overt action.

627
00:39:02,410 --> 00:39:04,870
For example, somebody

posting on social media.

628
00:39:04,870 --> 00:39:07,900
I'm looking for this type

of victim and going out

629
00:39:07,900 --> 00:39:10,570
and victimizing that type of victim.

630
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,290
Over the last decade, especially

631
00:39:14,290 --> 00:39:18,610
as a society, our understanding has grown

632
00:39:18,610 --> 00:39:21,820
to view racism as something more implicit,

633
00:39:21,820 --> 00:39:23,290
something more subtle,

634
00:39:23,290 --> 00:39:26,380
but that can have just

as terrible in effect.

635
00:39:26,380 --> 00:39:29,770
The law has not caught up

with where social sciences

636
00:39:29,770 --> 00:39:33,940
and where our community has gone to

637
00:39:33,940 --> 00:39:34,940
- Our hate crimes.

638
00:39:34,940 --> 00:39:37,960
Data is horrible. It's

largely a waste of time. Hate

639
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,480
- Crime reporting is

not federally mandated.

640
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:42,820
Assistant Attorney General Roy Austin,

641
00:39:42,820 --> 00:39:44,500
explain the problem this way.

642
00:39:45,340 --> 00:39:47,920
- We do not have the slightest idea

643
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,410
how many hate crimes there are in America

644
00:39:50,410 --> 00:39:52,780
and we have never known

the numbers currently kept

645
00:39:52,780 --> 00:39:54,220
by the FBI are largely useless.

646
00:39:54,220 --> 00:39:58,120
- The FBI agrees that the

data is not at all accurate.

647
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:01,725
- We have maybe a thousand

hate crimes reported in

648
00:40:01,725 --> 00:40:05,770
California, about 500

reported in New York,

649
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:10,570
Mississippi and Alabama

don't even total 10.

650
00:40:10,570 --> 00:40:11,740
Those numbers are a joke.

651
00:40:14,290 --> 00:40:18,250
We know that there are tens

of thousands more hate crimes

652
00:40:18,250 --> 00:40:20,710
than the FBI ever puts in their report.

653
00:40:20,710 --> 00:40:24,310
- The poor law enforcement

reporting of data to the FBI

654
00:40:24,310 --> 00:40:25,420
is a huge problem

655
00:40:25,420 --> 00:40:26,980
because we can't address a problem

656
00:40:26,980 --> 00:40:28,240
that we can't get our hands around

657
00:40:28,240 --> 00:40:30,670
and if we don't know the

volume at which it's happening,

658
00:40:30,670 --> 00:40:33,520
who it's happening to,

what the circumstances are,

659
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:35,565
we actually can't get at

the root of the problem.

660
00:40:35,565 --> 00:40:37,120
And we can't do the

prevention work either.

661
00:40:40,570 --> 00:40:43,510
- So we're driving to

a vigil in Chapel Hill.

662
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:48,190
I turn on my phone and the focus

663
00:40:48,190 --> 00:40:50,920
and the soundbite was a parking dispute.

664
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:52,810
Can we get over that already?

665
00:40:52,810 --> 00:40:54,520
Like can we get to the, the heart

666
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:56,565
of the story on why they

were actually killed?

667
00:40:56,565 --> 00:40:58,000
Or do does it not matter

668
00:40:58,000 --> 00:40:59,860
- To frame this as a parking dispute?

669
00:40:59,860 --> 00:41:03,550
The subtext of that is

saying, oh, your kid

670
00:41:04,720 --> 00:41:07,540
was out here in these

streets messing around

671
00:41:07,540 --> 00:41:11,050
and due to their own shortcomings,

672
00:41:11,050 --> 00:41:14,830
they got onto a tussle and

they unfortunately passed away.

673
00:41:14,830 --> 00:41:18,460
I could see how heartbreaking

that could be for the parents

674
00:41:18,460 --> 00:41:21,400
because they were at home having dinner.

675
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:22,960
Your kids are doing everything right

676
00:41:24,070 --> 00:41:26,200
and then they get murdered.

677
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:30,580
- I was speaking with

DIA's roommate Imad Ahmed,

678
00:41:30,580 --> 00:41:33,200
and he started to pull

out this, this sheet

679
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:36,290
that Dia had shared with his friends

680
00:41:36,290 --> 00:41:38,750
and his roommates with highlights on like,

681
00:41:38,750 --> 00:41:40,850
don't park in these spots just in case

682
00:41:40,850 --> 00:41:44,300
because our neighbor gets really annoyed.

683
00:41:44,300 --> 00:41:46,460
And I asked him, I was

like, has the police come

684
00:41:46,460 --> 00:41:47,660
and spoken to you?

685
00:41:47,660 --> 00:41:50,180
And he said, no, no one's

come and talked to me yet.

686
00:41:50,180 --> 00:41:53,960
And I just couldn't believe

that there could be such,

687
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:57,860
forgive the word incompetence

688
00:41:57,860 --> 00:41:59,990
that you could put out a

statement calling it a parking

689
00:41:59,990 --> 00:42:02,060
dispute when you didn't bother

690
00:42:02,060 --> 00:42:04,040
to just look in the parking lot.

691
00:42:06,170 --> 00:42:07,850
- The police say it was a parking dispute.

692
00:42:08,930 --> 00:42:13,250
My follow up, where

was the dispute so far?

693
00:42:13,250 --> 00:42:14,295
I can't Where did the police get it?

694
00:42:14,295 --> 00:42:15,500
Where did the police get it?

695
00:42:15,500 --> 00:42:16,500
I don't know.

696
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:24,950
- You guys are Chapel Hill Police.

697
00:42:24,950 --> 00:42:28,310
You know what parking is

like in Chapel Hill? Yeah.

698
00:42:28,310 --> 00:42:32,750
And Finley Forest took care

of it before. Now they're not.

699
00:42:33,620 --> 00:42:37,100
I pulled 'em a lot. We have

one spot Reserve Forest.

700
00:42:37,100 --> 00:42:38,930
That's where my wife parks

701
00:42:38,930 --> 00:42:40,580
and I have to park somewhere else.

702
00:42:40,580 --> 00:42:42,710
I had no place else to park.

703
00:42:42,710 --> 00:42:44,425
It's the same people all the time.

704
00:42:44,425 --> 00:42:46,220
I've talked to them numerous times.

705
00:42:46,220 --> 00:42:49,190
I I've semi threatened them.

706
00:42:50,585 --> 00:42:51,920
I walked back there and I said,

707
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:53,630
you got three cars in the lot.

708
00:42:53,630 --> 00:42:55,490
You're not supposed to have more than two.

709
00:42:55,490 --> 00:42:56,660
And I don't have a parking spot.

710
00:42:56,660 --> 00:42:59,210
I'm not parking on the

street. I'm an owner there.

711
00:42:59,210 --> 00:43:01,445
These people are renters, okay?

712
00:43:01,445 --> 00:43:05,810
And he said, we can park wherever.

713
00:43:05,810 --> 00:43:07,370
Can I say the word? Sure, sure. Okay.

714
00:43:07,370 --> 00:43:09,110
Wherever the fuck we want.

715
00:43:09,110 --> 00:43:11,870
We can park as many fucking

vehicles as we want.

716
00:43:11,870 --> 00:43:13,550
I said, I'm sick and tired of this crap.

717
00:43:13,550 --> 00:43:14,725
You gonna keep disrespecting me.

718
00:43:14,725 --> 00:43:16,075
I'm gonna start disrespecting you.

719
00:43:16,075 --> 00:43:17,935
He goes, fuck you, you

worth a piece of shit.

720
00:43:17,935 --> 00:43:22,400
And I went on, how did, how'd you go up?

721
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:23,985
I pulled that gun and

started shooting him though

722
00:43:26,330 --> 00:43:28,160
- The narrative of a parking dispute.

723
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:32,810
It was from a confession

724
00:43:34,670 --> 00:43:38,090
of the person who murdered

them who walked in smiling

725
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:42,020
and telling them, oh, I

did this over parking.

726
00:43:42,020 --> 00:43:43,700
- Was it the suspect, Mr. Hicks

727
00:43:43,700 --> 00:43:45,050
that said that was a parking issue?

728
00:43:46,940 --> 00:43:49,520
- Yes. Okay.

- That's, I was just wondering like how

729
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:51,920
that got out, what anyone was talked to.

730
00:43:54,020 --> 00:43:56,045
- It wasn't before anyone was talked to,

731
00:43:56,045 --> 00:43:58,070
but it was very early on.

732
00:43:58,070 --> 00:44:00,860
It was it preliminary investigation.

733
00:44:02,420 --> 00:44:04,730
- You took his word without bothering

734
00:44:04,730 --> 00:44:07,070
to go fucking check the parking lot.

735
00:44:07,070 --> 00:44:08,150
Excuse my language.

736
00:44:10,970 --> 00:44:15,625
Entitlement allowed Mr.

Hicks to be given some type

737
00:44:15,625 --> 00:44:18,200
of benefit of the doubt,

some type of control

738
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,960
of the narrative after

these horrific murders.

739
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:22,465
- I'm gonna be honest with you.

740
00:44:22,465 --> 00:44:27,445
I I respect you taking

this on the chin like a man

741
00:44:27,445 --> 00:44:28,745
and, and man it up.

742
00:44:28,745 --> 00:44:30,140
I I respect that.

743
00:44:31,380 --> 00:44:33,170
I mean, do you think something just the,

744
00:44:33,170 --> 00:44:35,280
the rage caused you to snap?

745
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,080
I mean, you know what I'm saying?

746
00:44:38,190 --> 00:44:42,780
- He's jovial and ingratiating

to the police officers

747
00:44:42,780 --> 00:44:46,260
and it's clear that he

considers himself closer,

748
00:44:46,260 --> 00:44:48,960
more like these police

officers in this position

749
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:52,110
that they would understand

why he did what he did.

750
00:44:52,110 --> 00:44:54,420
- You got a long road ahead

of you, man. I wish you luck.

751
00:44:55,380 --> 00:44:57,750
Good road that I made for myself, sir.

752
00:44:57,750 --> 00:44:58,750
I appreciate the thought.

753
00:45:01,530 --> 00:45:04,710
- He was given the opportunity

754
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:09,060
by investigation, by society, by media

755
00:45:09,060 --> 00:45:11,550
to tell his version of

756
00:45:11,550 --> 00:45:15,390
how he murdered three

people in cold blood.

757
00:45:15,390 --> 00:45:17,670
And that benefit wouldn't be given if the

758
00:45:17,670 --> 00:45:18,780
tables were turned.

759
00:45:20,100 --> 00:45:23,010
- There's no doubt that if

a single Muslim individual

760
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:28,020
killed three white people, that

761
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:32,965
every news channel would've

talked about the terrorist

762
00:45:32,965 --> 00:45:35,580
incident that had just

happened even without

763
00:45:35,580 --> 00:45:36,660
any other evidence.

764
00:45:37,530 --> 00:45:41,340
Though the exact conduct

by white individuals

765
00:45:42,240 --> 00:45:45,060
is dismissed as just a random crime.

766
00:45:52,650 --> 00:45:55,800
- The global outcry, including

more than 2 million tweets,

767
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:57,810
is showing that many have already judged

768
00:45:57,810 --> 00:45:59,310
this as a hate crime.

769
00:45:59,310 --> 00:46:01,170
Today's supporters held Friday prayers

770
00:46:01,170 --> 00:46:02,280
in front of the White House,

771
00:46:06,210 --> 00:46:09,270
- The murder of these

three innocent people.

772
00:46:10,110 --> 00:46:13,170
This becomes one of the

biggest stories of the day.

773
00:46:13,170 --> 00:46:14,550
It rippled around the world.

774
00:46:17,550 --> 00:46:20,280
- The White House is catching

some international flack

775
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:22,710
for not speaking out about

the Chapel Hill shootings.

776
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:28,380
- Hold on.

- In

777
00:46:28,380 --> 00:46:29,975
North Carolina, there are three

778
00:46:29,975 --> 00:46:31,710
Muslims who have been killed.

779
00:46:31,710 --> 00:46:33,000
President Obama, Mr.

780
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:36,000
Kerry Biden at this

point have not made any

781
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:39,270
declaration of respect. This is telling

782
00:46:39,270 --> 00:46:41,970
- No one Turkish president reached out or,

783
00:46:41,970 --> 00:46:43,710
or the Jordanian embassy

and things like that.

784
00:46:43,710 --> 00:46:45,330
They wanted to kind of

make it a bigger story.

785
00:46:45,330 --> 00:46:46,925
We're like, no, this is an American story.

786
00:46:46,925 --> 00:46:48,840
This is between us and our president.

787
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:53,490
- My first instinct was maybe

the president could not talk

788
00:46:53,490 --> 00:46:56,010
until his secret service

789
00:46:56,010 --> 00:46:59,880
and his intelligence

can vet the families and

790
00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:01,050
and assure him.

791
00:47:01,050 --> 00:47:03,030
He is gonna be talking about families

792
00:47:03,030 --> 00:47:06,090
who don't have any

skeletons in the closet.

793
00:47:06,090 --> 00:47:08,070
But you also think, well,

794
00:47:08,070 --> 00:47:09,210
you can talk about the crime

795
00:47:09,210 --> 00:47:10,590
without acknowledging the families.

796
00:47:10,590 --> 00:47:12,455
You can say what happened is unfair.

797
00:47:12,455 --> 00:47:14,190
What happened is, is heinous.

798
00:47:18,030 --> 00:47:20,645
- I worked under the Obama

administration in the west wing

799
00:47:20,645 --> 00:47:22,620
of the White House The following day

800
00:47:22,620 --> 00:47:23,850
after the shooting took place, you know,

801
00:47:23,850 --> 00:47:25,920
more information started coming out.

802
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:28,260
All of us in the back of our

heads, we feared that it had

803
00:47:28,260 --> 00:47:33,130
to do with my boss Ben

Rose forwarded an email

804
00:47:33,130 --> 00:47:38,130
to me and it was a news clip

of ER's StoryCorps interview.

805
00:47:38,530 --> 00:47:39,580
The interview. Of course,

806
00:47:39,580 --> 00:47:43,540
it just made the whole

situation sadly ironic.

807
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,620
- And that's the beautiful

thing here is that

808
00:47:47,620 --> 00:47:49,270
it doesn't matter where you come from.

809
00:47:49,270 --> 00:47:50,290
Here we're all one.

810
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:56,650
- My boss saw that I was upset,

unfortunately by that point.

811
00:47:56,650 --> 00:47:58,240
Like I broke into tears

812
00:47:58,240 --> 00:48:01,330
and the thing that I said to him was,

813
00:48:01,330 --> 00:48:03,010
I feel like this could have been me

814
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:06,040
and you all would be here debating whether

815
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:07,480
or not to put out a statement.

816
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:09,880
I remember him getting really mad

817
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:13,660
and he just like kicked

the desk in front of me

818
00:48:13,660 --> 00:48:16,180
and was just like, you know, f it.

819
00:48:16,180 --> 00:48:17,230
And he went into his office

820
00:48:17,230 --> 00:48:18,670
and he drafted it right then and there.

821
00:48:21,940 --> 00:48:25,060
- President Obama today

condemned the murders

822
00:48:25,060 --> 00:48:28,360
of three young Muslims in

Chapel Hill, North Carolina.

823
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:29,470
The president said,

824
00:48:29,470 --> 00:48:32,650
no one in the United States

of America should ever be

825
00:48:32,650 --> 00:48:36,100
targeted because of who they

are, what they look like

826
00:48:36,100 --> 00:48:37,210
or how they worship.

827
00:48:43,695 --> 00:48:45,850
- I'm Ripley Rand, I'm

the United States attorney

828
00:48:45,850 --> 00:48:47,740
for the middle district of North Carolina.

829
00:48:47,740 --> 00:48:49,900
This is not at a, at a point

830
00:48:49,900 --> 00:48:51,790
where it is a federal investigation.

831
00:48:51,790 --> 00:48:55,000
This is not a federal

investigation yet the events

832
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,340
of yesterday are not part

833
00:48:57,340 --> 00:49:01,630
of a targeted campaign against

Muslims in North Carolina.

834
00:49:01,630 --> 00:49:04,270
And I did want to address some

comments made on social media

835
00:49:04,270 --> 00:49:06,700
about that and to make

sure that people know

836
00:49:06,700 --> 00:49:09,100
that this appears at this point

837
00:49:09,100 --> 00:49:11,170
to have been an isolated incident.

838
00:49:12,850 --> 00:49:17,590
- So the first time we met with Mr.

839
00:49:17,590 --> 00:49:18,580
Ripley Rand,

840
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:28,570
the way they talked to me was, we're here

841
00:49:28,570 --> 00:49:30,610
to acknowledge your feelings.

842
00:49:30,610 --> 00:49:31,960
We know how painful it is.

843
00:49:33,940 --> 00:49:36,520
- They explained to us that

this would be prosecuted on the

844
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:41,020
state level as a first

degree murder times three.

845
00:49:41,020 --> 00:49:42,190
And that if and only if

846
00:49:42,190 --> 00:49:43,870
that wasn't successful on the state level,

847
00:49:43,870 --> 00:49:46,960
that then the federal

government would step in

848
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:49,660
and get involved to

prosecute as a hate crime.

849
00:49:50,830 --> 00:49:54,835
- But the riot is on the

wall. That day we all felt it.

850
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:03,250
This is not gonna be a hate crime.

851
00:50:04,810 --> 00:50:07,540
- If the threshold is so high

that we can't even meet it

852
00:50:07,540 --> 00:50:09,640
with this triple homicide,

853
00:50:10,870 --> 00:50:12,760
then shit needs to change.

854
00:50:19,210 --> 00:50:22,060
There are definitely

moments of hopelessness

855
00:50:22,060 --> 00:50:26,590
and despair, not just me as

an individual for my family,

856
00:50:26,590 --> 00:50:27,620
our community,

857
00:50:28,490 --> 00:50:31,700
- Somebody tweeting that the

murder should be released

858
00:50:31,700 --> 00:50:34,010
and given a medal of honor.

859
00:50:34,010 --> 00:50:38,030
Somebody tweeted three

down and 1.5 billion to go.

860
00:50:42,830 --> 00:50:45,290
- So this was February, 2015

861
00:50:45,290 --> 00:50:48,380
and Trump would declare his run

862
00:50:48,380 --> 00:50:51,500
for the presidency in

June of that year. Do

863
00:50:51,500 --> 00:50:53,570
- You think Islam is at war with the West?

864
00:50:53,570 --> 00:50:57,200
- I think Islam hates us.

865
00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:01,940
- The fear-mongering, the hate

talk is a very offensive act.

866
00:51:01,940 --> 00:51:04,400
- Donald J. Trump is calling for a total

867
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:09,260
and complete shutdown of Muslims

entering the United States.

868
00:51:09,260 --> 00:51:12,770
- On the personal level,

your loss is being amplified

869
00:51:12,770 --> 00:51:15,620
with a policy that is

actually saying that you

870
00:51:15,620 --> 00:51:19,370
and all your kind don't belong in here.

871
00:51:19,370 --> 00:51:21,385
- But you do believe overall there is a

872
00:51:21,385 --> 00:51:22,910
Muslim problem in the world.

873
00:51:22,910 --> 00:51:24,890
- Well, there is a Muslim

problem. Absolutely.

874
00:51:24,890 --> 00:51:26,930
You just have to turn

on your television set.

875
00:51:26,930 --> 00:51:31,160
- He himself is actually

shooting bullets out of his mouth

876
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:34,820
to the mental state of

Muslims in this society

877
00:51:34,820 --> 00:51:36,890
and basically saying what is happening

878
00:51:36,890 --> 00:51:39,950
to you should happen to you.

879
00:51:39,950 --> 00:51:42,320
- That kind of language from

a presidential candidate,

880
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:43,825
it's extremely problematic

881
00:51:43,825 --> 00:51:47,000
and gives allowance to a

lot of the racists out there

882
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:48,470
and white supremacists

883
00:51:48,470 --> 00:51:51,795
to feel like we can do what we wanna do.

884
00:51:51,795 --> 00:51:54,170
- Fuck Islam.

- You are terrorists.

885
00:51:54,170 --> 00:51:56,300
Every one of you are terrorists.

I don't care what you

886
00:51:56,300 --> 00:51:57,300
- Say.

887
00:51:57,300 --> 00:51:59,780
The closer and closer

we got to the election.

888
00:51:59,780 --> 00:52:03,200
As that rhetoric continued,

it was a reminder of

889
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:05,870
how our society thinks of Muslims.

890
00:52:05,870 --> 00:52:08,510
- We need to empower law

enforcement to patrol

891
00:52:08,510 --> 00:52:10,190
and secure Muslim neighborhoods.

892
00:52:10,190 --> 00:52:13,670
- Islam is a false religion.

It's a lie they hate America.

893
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:19,400
- Leading up to the 2016

election, hate crimes started

894
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:21,230
to escalate very rapidly,

895
00:52:21,230 --> 00:52:23,120
especially against Muslim communities.

896
00:52:24,110 --> 00:52:25,730
Basically a handful of us went

897
00:52:25,730 --> 00:52:27,685
to Valerie Jarrett in the White House

898
00:52:27,685 --> 00:52:30,715
and asked to have the president

do a visit to a mosque

899
00:52:30,715 --> 00:52:32,660
and talk about what was

happening in our communities

900
00:52:32,660 --> 00:52:33,680
and speak out against it.

901
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:38,990
- Before his speech, he met with a group

902
00:52:38,990 --> 00:52:41,990
of community leaders,

which included Suzanne.

903
00:52:41,990 --> 00:52:44,780
- President Obama asked that I start first

904
00:52:44,780 --> 00:52:49,310
and I started sharing the

story of the loss of D Yan

905
00:52:49,310 --> 00:52:53,750
to is Islamophobia the

murders of our family members?

906
00:52:54,770 --> 00:52:58,610
What are we doing about it?

What are you doing about it?

907
00:52:58,610 --> 00:53:02,690
I had shared how even as a

physician in San Francisco,

908
00:53:02,690 --> 00:53:03,860
racism is everywhere.

909
00:53:03,860 --> 00:53:05,360
Islamophobia is everywhere.

910
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:07,610
I have been called a terrorist to my face.

911
00:53:07,610 --> 00:53:09,440
This is the norm and the experience

912
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:11,330
of the American Muslim community.

913
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:16,400
- When everyone was done,

the the president moved into

914
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:18,380
focusing on terrorism

915
00:53:18,380 --> 00:53:20,660
as though Muslims are somehow the problem.

916
00:53:20,660 --> 00:53:23,300
Instead of the actual

reason that that he went

917
00:53:23,300 --> 00:53:25,560
to the mosques, which was

to talk about the things

918
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:27,150
that were happening to our community.

919
00:53:28,950 --> 00:53:30,990
- The very little pushback

we were able to give

920
00:53:30,990 --> 00:53:33,960
that altered some of his messaging

921
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:35,670
- Because of those conversations.

922
00:53:35,670 --> 00:53:37,770
It actually resulted in him making edits

923
00:53:37,770 --> 00:53:39,420
to the speech right then and there. I

924
00:53:39,420 --> 00:53:40,440
- Just had a chance to meet

925
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:44,520
with some extraordinary Muslim Americans.

926
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:46,440
So the first thing I

wanna say is two words

927
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:49,290
that Muslim Americans

don't hear often enough.

928
00:53:49,290 --> 00:53:51,300
And that is, thank you. I know

929
00:53:51,300 --> 00:53:53,855
that in Muslim communities

across our country,

930
00:53:53,855 --> 00:53:58,530
this is a time of concern and

frankly a time of some fear.

931
00:53:59,910 --> 00:54:03,570
Your entire community so often

932
00:54:04,980 --> 00:54:09,240
is targeted or blamed for the

violent acts of the very few.

933
00:54:11,910 --> 00:54:14,670
- There was a sense of empowerment that

934
00:54:14,670 --> 00:54:16,500
hearing the human story does matter.

935
00:54:27,135 --> 00:54:29,070
And then the Trump

administration happened.

936
00:54:29,070 --> 00:54:31,710
So it was kind of like

937
00:54:41,370 --> 00:54:42,900
- When people ask me what was worse,

938
00:54:42,900 --> 00:54:44,315
my experience post nine 11

939
00:54:44,315 --> 00:54:45,815
or during the presidential campaign

940
00:54:45,815 --> 00:54:46,860
that Trump was running is

941
00:54:46,860 --> 00:54:48,270
during the presidential campaign. It's

942
00:54:48,270 --> 00:54:49,800
- Gonna get worse and worse.

943
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:51,720
You're gonna have more

world trade centers.

944
00:54:51,720 --> 00:54:52,890
- I was getting spotted again,

945
00:54:52,890 --> 00:54:55,230
being called terrorists

again, almost being hit

946
00:54:55,230 --> 00:54:56,790
by a car in a parking lot

947
00:55:00,540 --> 00:55:03,060
- On the eve of Trump being elected,

948
00:55:03,060 --> 00:55:06,605
a white woman from a well

to do background came in

949
00:55:06,605 --> 00:55:07,680
with her nine month old

950
00:55:08,670 --> 00:55:13,320
and she was afraid of me holding her baby.

951
00:55:18,180 --> 00:55:19,230
I am a physician.

952
00:55:22,470 --> 00:55:26,430
It was basically like we have

no allies right now in the

953
00:55:26,430 --> 00:55:29,070
administration to actually

do anything about this.

954
00:55:34,530 --> 00:55:36,870
- And then it spirals even

further out of control.

955
00:56:00,485 --> 00:56:02,010
- We are on a crossroads

956
00:56:02,910 --> 00:56:07,080
and how do we wanna portray

ourselves as Americans?

957
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:09,240
What is the message we're

gonna send to the world?

958
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:15,390
- I do believe that that

politicians have to hear

959
00:56:15,390 --> 00:56:18,660
that nibbling at the edges of these things

960
00:56:18,660 --> 00:56:20,040
is no longer acceptable.

961
00:56:26,290 --> 00:56:30,130
- Dr. Abuja

- Morning, Mr.

962
00:56:30,130 --> 00:56:34,300
Chairman team members

of Congress and ladies

963
00:56:34,300 --> 00:56:37,870
and gentlemen, I must be

one of a few physicians,

964
00:56:37,870 --> 00:56:41,080
if not the only one who read

his own children's murder.

965
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:46,000
Autopsy reports in details,

they are seared into my memory.

966
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:49,540
Bullets macerated us and Anne's brains.

967
00:56:49,540 --> 00:56:51,940
Dia took many bullets

to the arms and chest

968
00:56:51,940 --> 00:56:53,320
before he fell down to the ground.

969
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:56,170
And after that the murderer

saw that he was still breathing

970
00:56:56,170 --> 00:56:57,550
and shot him again in the mouth.

971
00:56:58,750 --> 00:57:00,940
I am afraid for our country.

972
00:57:00,940 --> 00:57:01,990
In 2016,

973
00:57:01,990 --> 00:57:05,290
the FBI recorded a 67% increase in un anti

974
00:57:05,290 --> 00:57:06,700
Muslim hate crimes.

975
00:57:06,700 --> 00:57:08,980
And just a week ago, just weeks ago,

976
00:57:08,980 --> 00:57:11,740
a young man in Indiana was

shot in the back of the head

977
00:57:11,740 --> 00:57:14,050
by a man shouting anti-US slurs.

978
00:57:14,050 --> 00:57:18,490
And we miss our children so much at times,

979
00:57:18,490 --> 00:57:21,730
the pains just as sharp now

as it was when they died.

980
00:57:21,730 --> 00:57:25,150
And I ask you, I truly plead to you not

981
00:57:25,150 --> 00:57:27,700
to let another American

family go through this

982
00:57:27,700 --> 00:57:29,710
because our government would not act

983
00:57:29,710 --> 00:57:31,330
to protect all Americans.

984
00:57:31,330 --> 00:57:33,430
Please remember them. You sir.

985
00:57:33,430 --> 00:57:37,240
Dear and Roseanne, they are

my children and they are gone.

986
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:49,150
- At that point we had to deal

987
00:57:49,150 --> 00:57:51,940
with the legal system in North Carolina.

988
00:57:54,610 --> 00:57:56,470
My job is not an easy job.

989
00:57:59,890 --> 00:58:02,200
I sit every day with people

990
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:07,200
who are experiencing the

worst grief in their life.

991
00:58:07,660 --> 00:58:11,500
And the only thing that

I can ever give them is

992
00:58:11,500 --> 00:58:14,080
to tell what happened.

993
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:16,990
To tell it in a court setting

and to tell the truth.

994
00:58:16,990 --> 00:58:20,770
I'm the team lead for the

Special Victims Unit in Durham.

995
00:58:20,770 --> 00:58:23,710
We handle special victim

cases, targeted victims,

996
00:58:23,710 --> 00:58:25,240
chosen victims.

997
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:27,340
I did not become involved in the case

998
00:58:27,340 --> 00:58:30,100
until almost four years

after the homicides.

999
00:58:30,100 --> 00:58:32,770
I was looking at it

with a fresh set of eyes

1000
00:58:32,770 --> 00:58:34,390
as a complete investigation.

1001
00:58:35,830 --> 00:58:40,300
I will say that I prepared

for this plea hearing, the way

1002
00:58:40,300 --> 00:58:42,250
that I prepare for a trial.

1003
00:58:42,250 --> 00:58:44,830
I spent weeks, hours,

1004
00:58:44,830 --> 00:58:48,850
and late nights in my

trial space that I work in.

1005
00:58:50,290 --> 00:58:51,580
And there was so much.

1006
00:58:55,510 --> 00:58:58,180
The hardest part of this

case was telling the truth

1007
00:58:59,380 --> 00:59:02,320
even when it's complicated

and even when it's messy.

1008
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:04,960
And the complicated truth

in this case was the bias,

1009
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:06,970
the racism, and the Islamophobia.

1010
00:59:09,340 --> 00:59:10,900
But any individual piece

1011
00:59:10,900 --> 00:59:13,300
by itself didn't tell that whole picture.

1012
00:59:13,300 --> 00:59:18,160
Reading the case, each piece

fit together like a puzzle.

1013
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:20,440
Once you step back and

you saw the whole thing,

1014
00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:21,920
this motive was very clear.

1015
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:23,300
These three people were killed

1016
00:59:23,300 --> 00:59:25,730
because of their identity as being Muslim.

1017
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:32,090
And the truth is that when

Craig Hicks spoke to the police,

1018
00:59:32,090 --> 00:59:36,770
he gave his own version of

events and they were a lie.

1019
00:59:39,020 --> 00:59:41,060
- Tell us a story about

what happened today.

1020
00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:00,590
- The day of the murders, it was cold.

1021
01:00:03,890 --> 01:00:05,690
Dia had been at school,

1022
01:00:05,690 --> 01:00:08,150
he had taken the student bus into UNC.

1023
01:00:09,710 --> 01:00:14,150
Usor had been at work, Rashan

had been at school in Raleigh.

1024
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:18,110
I remember it just being

like really unusually cold

1025
01:00:18,110 --> 01:00:19,940
that day to your bones.

1026
01:00:19,940 --> 01:00:22,220
It was so cold. Me

1027
01:00:22,220 --> 01:00:23,840
and naan were actually

supposed to go on a run

1028
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:25,250
that afternoon, but

1029
01:00:25,250 --> 01:00:27,110
because it was so cold, I texted her

1030
01:00:27,110 --> 01:00:28,520
that morning and I was

like, what do you think?

1031
01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:30,710
Should we go on a run? She's

like, no, it's too cold.

1032
01:00:30,710 --> 01:00:33,140
So instead of running, she

said, I'm gonna go visit you.

1033
01:00:33,140 --> 01:00:37,280
So instead Hicks told police

1034
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:38,870
that he didn't wake up until noon.

1035
01:00:40,940 --> 01:00:42,740
And so he was unemployed.

1036
01:00:42,740 --> 01:00:46,460
He was playing video games

the night before all day

1037
01:00:46,460 --> 01:00:47,690
and woke up at noon to go

1038
01:00:47,690 --> 01:00:50,990
to a class at Durham

Technical Community College.

1039
01:00:52,125 --> 01:00:53,180
- My alarm goes off.

1040
01:00:53,180 --> 01:00:58,105
I was playing a video game and

I stopped playing the video.

1041
01:00:58,105 --> 01:01:00,045
I shouldn't think I let video game go,

1042
01:01:00,045 --> 01:01:02,960
but I started getting ready

for my class, took my shower,

1043
01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:05,300
brushed my teeth, you know,

did all the regular stuff.

1044
01:01:05,300 --> 01:01:07,345
How much detail do you want

me to go watch? That's you.

1045
01:01:07,345 --> 01:01:09,440
You're doing great.

Okay. You're doing great.

1046
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:11,510
What kind of video game? Assassin's

1047
01:01:11,510 --> 01:01:13,130
Creed, I probably shouldn't tell you that.

1048
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:15,360
Just sore

1049
01:01:17,990 --> 01:01:21,685
- Dia had rode the bus home

with his friends, said goodbye

1050
01:01:21,685 --> 01:01:23,870
to his friends and headed

back to his apartment.

1051
01:01:25,250 --> 01:01:28,675
Usor had come home from work

and Raan had finished school

1052
01:01:28,675 --> 01:01:30,590
and come over to have dinner with them.

1053
01:01:33,260 --> 01:01:37,040
Mr. Hicks stated that

he came back from school

1054
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:38,330
to the apartment complex.

1055
01:01:39,770 --> 01:01:42,950
- Drove home. Gosh, it wasn't

a bad drive, but I got there.

1056
01:01:42,950 --> 01:01:45,380
And like I say, the,

there are a lot of split

1057
01:01:45,380 --> 01:01:46,790
between reserved parking,

1058
01:01:46,790 --> 01:01:48,830
which every unit gets one reserve space

1059
01:01:48,830 --> 01:01:50,120
and non reserved parking.

1060
01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:53,900
We have one spot reserve forest,

that's where my wife parks

1061
01:01:53,900 --> 01:01:55,310
and I have to park somewhere else.

1062
01:01:56,570 --> 01:02:00,050
I pulled in the lot for

any non reserve spaces.

1063
01:02:02,900 --> 01:02:03,950
It was right at five

1064
01:02:03,950 --> 01:02:05,450
so I could have pulled out on the street.

1065
01:02:05,450 --> 01:02:09,590
I said no gonna park my wife spot for now.

1066
01:02:09,590 --> 01:02:10,940
I had no place else to park.

1067
01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:14,815
- Other neighbors have

indicated that Craig Hicks felt

1068
01:02:14,815 --> 01:02:17,000
that he was entitled to two spots.

1069
01:02:19,710 --> 01:02:24,540
- What he claimed to be his two

reserve spots were these two

1070
01:02:24,540 --> 01:02:26,040
these back to back right here.

1071
01:02:27,570 --> 01:02:29,520
- I had no place else to park.

1072
01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:32,910
- The truth is DIA's roommate, he went by

1073
01:02:32,910 --> 01:02:35,670
and there were no cars

parked in those spots.

1074
01:02:35,670 --> 01:02:38,550
And so before anything

was done, we all went

1075
01:02:38,550 --> 01:02:40,080
and took pictures of the parking lot.

1076
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:42,840
- When I sat down with the parents,

1077
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:44,310
they finally gave me photos

1078
01:02:44,310 --> 01:02:46,110
of the parking lot from that night.

1079
01:02:46,110 --> 01:02:49,380
You can see the parking

situation of that night.

1080
01:02:49,380 --> 01:02:50,760
And these are the facts.

1081
01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:53,940
The two spots in front

of the Hicks Place empty.

1082
01:02:56,490 --> 01:02:57,900
- I had no place else to park.

1083
01:03:01,140 --> 01:03:04,260
- The day of the murder.

DIA's car was in 20 B.

1084
01:03:04,260 --> 01:03:07,200
This is the spot that was

assigned to Dia and Usor.

1085
01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:10,380
OSA's car was parked in 20 E right here,

1086
01:03:10,380 --> 01:03:14,250
which wasn't assigned to any

particular condo or townhouse.

1087
01:03:14,250 --> 01:03:17,520
Oran had come over, she

didn't even park in the lot.

1088
01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:20,100
Rusan was parked out here on the street.

1089
01:03:22,140 --> 01:03:23,610
Dia Usor

1090
01:03:23,610 --> 01:03:24,990
and Rusan were parked exactly

1091
01:03:24,990 --> 01:03:26,820
where they were permitted to be parked.

1092
01:03:28,980 --> 01:03:31,440
Mr. Hicks reserved parking spot was open.

1093
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:34,590
He parked in it, got outta

the car, went upstairs

1094
01:03:34,590 --> 01:03:36,750
to his apartment and got a gun.

1095
01:03:45,205 --> 01:03:46,415
- What, what type of gun is it?

1096
01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:50,310
- 3 57 cig

- A different gun than the one he

1097
01:03:50,310 --> 01:03:51,330
usually carried.

1098
01:03:51,330 --> 01:03:53,790
He described the police

that he chose the gun

1099
01:03:53,790 --> 01:03:55,575
because it had deadly aim.

1100
01:03:55,575 --> 01:03:57,300
- I don't know why I

grabbed a second magazine

1101
01:03:57,300 --> 01:04:00,450
and stuck it in my thing

in here, my little pocket.

1102
01:04:00,450 --> 01:04:02,640
And I didn't wear it on

the outside this time

1103
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:03,900
'cause it wasn't warm enough for me

1104
01:04:03,900 --> 01:04:05,165
to go out there like this.

1105
01:04:05,165 --> 01:04:06,695
Right. So I didn't have

underneath my jacket.

1106
01:04:07,915 --> 01:04:10,350
- And he went downstairs

1107
01:04:10,350 --> 01:04:14,130
and around the building, he went in search

1108
01:04:14,130 --> 01:04:18,810
of the victims that he clearly

knew he wanted to murder.

1109
01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:23,370
He had to open Dia

OSA's gate that was shut

1110
01:04:23,370 --> 01:04:25,410
and walk up to their door

and knock on the door.

1111
01:04:35,645 --> 01:04:37,620
- From the time Dia opened the door

1112
01:04:37,620 --> 01:04:41,315
to the time Hicks began shooting

was about 10 seconds, give

1113
01:04:41,315 --> 01:04:46,140
or take, with very limited

interaction between the two.

1114
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:52,650
- I'm gonna be disrespectful toward you.

1115
01:04:52,650 --> 01:04:55,855
- You shot him? Yep. And then

you walked in the doorway?

1116
01:04:55,855 --> 01:04:57,840
- I think I was stepped in as I shot him.

1117
01:04:59,310 --> 01:05:00,690
- Okay. And then when you shot him

1118
01:05:00,690 --> 01:05:01,770
in the head, where was he at

1119
01:05:01,770 --> 01:05:02,770
- That point?

1120
01:05:02,770 --> 01:05:03,450
He was already pretty much down.

1121
01:05:03,450 --> 01:05:04,455
- He was on the ground?

- Yeah. Okay.

1122
01:05:06,810 --> 01:05:08,910
And they started screaming.

And like I say, I saw the one

1123
01:05:08,910 --> 01:05:10,200
that mouth off to me before.

1124
01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:14,015
So I shot at her, the one

went down, I walked up

1125
01:05:14,015 --> 01:05:15,570
and she started screaming at me again.

1126
01:05:17,075 --> 01:05:19,450
- Okay,

- So they were both down. Yep.

1127
01:05:19,450 --> 01:05:21,865
They were both kind of

like kneeling and stuff

1128
01:05:21,865 --> 01:05:23,355
and they both were.

1129
01:05:23,355 --> 01:05:25,960
They were okay, you know. Okay.

1130
01:05:25,960 --> 01:05:27,585
Like putting towards her head

1131
01:05:27,585 --> 01:05:29,365
and then towards the other

head or the other one

1132
01:05:43,905 --> 01:05:45,605
and then, and then what happened?

1133
01:05:45,605 --> 01:05:48,070
I turned around and started

to walk out holstered.

1134
01:05:48,070 --> 01:05:49,870
The gun got inside of

my car and drove off.

1135
01:06:07,030 --> 01:06:08,920
- When police arrived,

1136
01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:12,400
they first found Dia shot

still in the doorway.

1137
01:06:13,390 --> 01:06:17,020
The autopsy revealed that

Dia had eight gunshot wounds

1138
01:06:17,020 --> 01:06:19,150
to his head, his chest and his hands.

1139
01:06:19,150 --> 01:06:22,150
Some of those wounds were

likely reentry wounds going from

1140
01:06:22,150 --> 01:06:24,070
his hand into his body.

1141
01:06:24,940 --> 01:06:29,320
Dia also had bullets in his

body from different angles,

1142
01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:33,490
which means that Hicks shot Dia first

1143
01:06:33,490 --> 01:06:34,750
and last.

1144
01:06:35,620 --> 01:06:39,340
He shot Dia upon entry and

on his way out shot Dia.

1145
01:06:39,340 --> 01:06:41,140
One last time in his head,

1146
01:06:43,300 --> 01:06:45,100
USOR had two shots.

1147
01:06:45,100 --> 01:06:48,970
She had been shot from the

back, which typically means

1148
01:06:48,970 --> 01:06:50,260
that she was trying to get away

1149
01:06:51,340 --> 01:06:55,815
and then execution style

into her head, which means

1150
01:06:55,815 --> 01:06:59,290
that he put the gun very

close or touching her hijab.

1151
01:07:01,450 --> 01:07:04,510
And Rashan had been shot once,

1152
01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:10,240
execution style in a contact

range gunshot to her head,

1153
01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:12,280
which means that he had

put the gun close to her,

1154
01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:13,420
touching her hijab.

1155
01:07:15,370 --> 01:07:18,370
It's a level of malice

that I've not seen before.

1156
01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:23,170
- The fact that they were executed,

1157
01:07:24,100 --> 01:07:27,880
that they were killed in such

an aggressive abhorrent way

1158
01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:29,740
should absolutely be part

1159
01:07:29,740 --> 01:07:31,810
of the evaluation of why they were killed.

1160
01:07:34,555 --> 01:07:38,140
- He executed them. He

didn't just kill them.

1161
01:07:38,140 --> 01:07:39,340
There is a big difference.

1162
01:07:40,570 --> 01:07:44,830
- So then the question became,

well why did he really do it?

1163
01:07:47,650 --> 01:07:50,800
I'm Margaret Talbot, I'm a

staff writer for the New Yorker.

1164
01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:53,230
So this was February, 2015.

1165
01:07:53,230 --> 01:07:57,700
Craig Hicks, he was not on

his way up in the world.

1166
01:07:57,700 --> 01:07:59,890
He was a white man at his forties

1167
01:07:59,890 --> 01:08:02,350
who was angry and aggrieved.

1168
01:08:02,350 --> 01:08:04,960
This guy had been married three times,

1169
01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:07,660
was on his third marriage,

had moved into the condominium

1170
01:08:07,660 --> 01:08:09,310
of his wife.

1171
01:08:09,310 --> 01:08:13,570
He was behind considerably in

child support payments for one

1172
01:08:13,570 --> 01:08:15,080
of his two children.

1173
01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:18,410
A former marriage was unemployed, had lost

1174
01:08:18,410 --> 01:08:19,820
or quit several jobs.

1175
01:08:20,660 --> 01:08:23,210
You could see that he

viewed himself as a victim.

1176
01:08:23,210 --> 01:08:25,765
The two jobs that he had been let go from

1177
01:08:25,765 --> 01:08:28,700
or resigned from, it was

those company's fault.

1178
01:08:28,700 --> 01:08:30,530
- He started changing

rules back and forth.

1179
01:08:30,530 --> 01:08:33,770
Do it this way else. Why

aren't you doing it this way?

1180
01:08:35,210 --> 01:08:38,840
- His mortgage was underwater

because renters were moving in

1181
01:08:38,840 --> 01:08:41,720
because other people were moving in.

1182
01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:45,145
The truth is Craig Hicks had

been an owner in Finlay Forest

1183
01:08:45,145 --> 01:08:46,280
for a long time.

1184
01:08:46,280 --> 01:08:48,625
As the community evolved around him, more

1185
01:08:48,625 --> 01:08:50,090
and more people were moving in

1186
01:08:50,090 --> 01:08:51,860
who were UNC graduate students

1187
01:08:51,860 --> 01:08:54,800
and bringing a lot of

diversity to the communities.

1188
01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:58,280
And it seems clear from the

emails that Craig Hicks sent

1189
01:08:58,280 --> 01:08:59,870
to the homeowners association

1190
01:08:59,870 --> 01:09:04,130
that he felt his American

dream was being taken from him

1191
01:09:04,130 --> 01:09:05,690
and that it was being taken from him.

1192
01:09:05,690 --> 01:09:08,390
By his words, were these people,

1193
01:09:08,390 --> 01:09:10,730
- I'm an owner there,

these people are renters.

1194
01:09:10,730 --> 01:09:12,560
But back then we had professional people

1195
01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:15,650
- On there and Dia and Usor

had recently purchased the

1196
01:09:15,650 --> 01:09:17,420
townhouse in that community.

1197
01:09:17,420 --> 01:09:18,905
Ready?

1198
01:09:18,905 --> 01:09:22,820
- Eh? Today is like our baby

was born. We're so happy.

1199
01:09:25,825 --> 01:09:26,825
Hi

1200
01:09:27,710 --> 01:09:29,360
- That wall right there.

1201
01:09:29,360 --> 01:09:33,830
- Pray cakes chosen targets

were three young children from

1202
01:09:33,830 --> 01:09:35,330
Muslim immigrant families

1203
01:09:35,330 --> 01:09:39,350
who were remarkably successful together.

1204
01:09:39,350 --> 01:09:41,420
People on their way up in the world.

1205
01:09:41,420 --> 01:09:45,140
And it was clear that he

was acting out of some kind

1206
01:09:45,140 --> 01:09:48,230
of resentment fueled by that comparison

1207
01:09:48,230 --> 01:09:50,840
and fueled by his own particular rage,

1208
01:09:50,840 --> 01:09:53,630
but a particular rage

that I think has become

1209
01:09:54,860 --> 01:09:56,960
very politically

significant in this country.

1210
01:09:59,685 --> 01:10:02,930
- I have a temper. I have

a very bad temper. What?

1211
01:10:02,930 --> 01:10:05,030
- What causes your temper to go off?

1212
01:10:05,030 --> 01:10:08,150
Is a personal tax towards

you or a lack of respect or

1213
01:10:08,150 --> 01:10:09,170
- Just respect?

1214
01:10:14,420 --> 01:10:18,950
- Craig Hicks was a bully who

had been kind of hounding them

1215
01:10:18,950 --> 01:10:22,430
because he was put off

by them in some way.

1216
01:10:24,260 --> 01:10:28,580
And it is also, I think, pretty

clear that he became angrier

1217
01:10:28,580 --> 01:10:32,570
after Usor moved into

the apartment and she

1218
01:10:32,570 --> 01:10:34,190
and her sister were around a lot.

1219
01:10:36,650 --> 01:10:39,770
- Her friends had came over

and they were playing risk.

1220
01:10:47,060 --> 01:10:49,880
And then as the girls were walking out

1221
01:10:49,880 --> 01:10:52,700
somehow some way they were really loud.

1222
01:10:52,700 --> 01:10:55,970
So he came over brandishing his gun

1223
01:10:57,140 --> 01:10:58,280
and then try to intimidate you.

1224
01:10:58,280 --> 01:11:01,730
Sergeant Dia, from what I firsthand know,

1225
01:11:01,730 --> 01:11:06,050
he would harass her

significantly more than

1226
01:11:06,050 --> 01:11:07,070
when I lived there.

1227
01:11:14,905 --> 01:11:16,410
The DIO had lived there for a year

1228
01:11:16,410 --> 01:11:19,620
and a half prior to this

with their imad, both Muslim,

1229
01:11:20,550 --> 01:11:22,170
but they don't wear the headscarf.

1230
01:11:22,170 --> 01:11:24,270
They never saw a weapon. How come?

1231
01:11:24,270 --> 01:11:26,370
When my sister showed up,

they started seeing weapons.

1232
01:11:36,270 --> 01:11:39,090
- We had a wealth of information that Dia

1233
01:11:39,090 --> 01:11:42,210
and USO left for us through text messages

1234
01:11:42,210 --> 01:11:45,960
that they exchanged with

each other and with friends.

1235
01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:47,580
And it was very clear from those texts

1236
01:11:47,580 --> 01:11:49,380
that they were afraid of Mr. Hicks.

1237
01:11:50,490 --> 01:11:54,060
- Yes sir. Of feared that guy.

She expressed that to you.

1238
01:11:55,170 --> 01:11:56,730
And the first thing I

said to her, this was over

1239
01:11:56,730 --> 01:11:58,470
that winter break, I said, he's racist.

1240
01:11:59,490 --> 01:12:03,810
- I knew from my daughter you

saw how much she hated them

1241
01:12:03,810 --> 01:12:06,570
and what he said to her, including,

1242
01:12:06,570 --> 01:12:07,710
I don't like how you look.

1243
01:12:07,710 --> 01:12:09,870
I don't like how you dress.

1244
01:12:11,610 --> 01:12:14,400
- My mom told me when, when

she went to help you sort

1245
01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:16,020
of move in a few things.

1246
01:12:16,020 --> 01:12:19,475
- I noticed that he was talking

with her and he was nervous.

1247
01:12:19,475 --> 01:12:21,390
His voice was loud.

1248
01:12:21,390 --> 01:12:23,880
She told me this never,

1249
01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:26,010
this is the second time

he gave me hard time.

1250
01:12:26,010 --> 01:12:29,190
So immediately I told

her, let me talk to him

1251
01:12:29,190 --> 01:12:30,300
and see what's the problem.

1252
01:12:30,300 --> 01:12:32,820
She said, no, please

mom, don't talk to him.

1253
01:12:32,820 --> 01:12:36,330
He's my neighbor. And with

time he will knows us,

1254
01:12:36,330 --> 01:12:38,280
he will know me and Dia.

1255
01:12:41,280 --> 01:12:43,380
- There is evidence that displays

1256
01:12:43,380 --> 01:12:45,405
of religion were very triggering to him.

1257
01:12:46,830 --> 01:12:48,870
- Hicks who claims he is an atheist,

1258
01:12:48,870 --> 01:12:52,500
allegedly posted anti-religious

statements on his Facebook

1259
01:12:52,500 --> 01:12:56,340
page writing quote, when

it comes to insults,

1260
01:12:56,340 --> 01:12:59,160
your religion started this, not me.

1261
01:12:59,160 --> 01:13:03,120
If your religion kept its

big mouth shut, so would I

1262
01:13:03,120 --> 01:13:05,490
- Zone Facebook posts showed

1263
01:13:05,490 --> 01:13:09,360
that he was aggressively anti-religious

1264
01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:14,100
and viewed people who held

strong to faith as foolish.

1265
01:13:14,100 --> 01:13:15,720
That he was smarter than them.

1266
01:13:17,280 --> 01:13:20,640
They were trying to placate

him, trying to be nice

1267
01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:23,730
that you saw, sent a text

to Dia about how she saw him

1268
01:13:23,730 --> 01:13:26,970
and tried to say hi and

that he was angry with her.

1269
01:13:26,970 --> 01:13:28,500
And you know, huffed off.

1270
01:13:29,460 --> 01:13:31,530
- We could tell she was

scared and terrified.

1271
01:13:31,530 --> 01:13:33,240
There was night, there

were nights that she,

1272
01:13:33,240 --> 01:13:37,115
after the wedding, would not

go home if Dia was not home two

1273
01:13:37,115 --> 01:13:38,220
or three days before the crime.

1274
01:13:38,220 --> 01:13:40,740
I told her, if you, if your

husband doesn't do something

1275
01:13:40,740 --> 01:13:43,050
about this and Gary restraining

order that I'm gonna come

1276
01:13:43,050 --> 01:13:45,450
to your neighborhood and do

something with the police.

1277
01:13:45,450 --> 01:13:46,740
We were feeling the danger.

1278
01:13:49,860 --> 01:13:54,360
- What Mr. Hicks told the

police we know is not accurate.

1279
01:13:54,360 --> 01:13:58,895
He lied to the police about

Dia that day stating that,

1280
01:13:58,895 --> 01:14:00,240
you know, DIA had cursed him. He

1281
01:14:00,240 --> 01:14:02,070
- Goes, fuck you, you are

worth this piece of shit.

1282
01:14:02,070 --> 01:14:06,900
- Even speculated that Dia

had a knife and had cut him,

1283
01:14:06,900 --> 01:14:08,520
- He started making a movement towards me.

1284
01:14:08,520 --> 01:14:10,770
So I pulled a roof foot

and started shooting.

1285
01:14:10,770 --> 01:14:12,490
Maybe came out and hit me with a knife

1286
01:14:12,490 --> 01:14:15,820
or something, I don't know,

but something cut my thumb.

1287
01:14:15,820 --> 01:14:17,405
I don't know what else

would've cut my thumb

1288
01:14:17,405 --> 01:14:18,515
'cause it was bleeding over place.

1289
01:14:18,515 --> 01:14:20,045
This is all my blood I believe.

1290
01:14:22,025 --> 01:14:23,050
- But it was a lie,

1291
01:14:26,680 --> 01:14:28,060
which we know because

1292
01:14:33,100 --> 01:14:35,950
Dia found a way to tell the truth even

1293
01:14:35,950 --> 01:14:37,570
after his life was taken

1294
01:14:43,240 --> 01:14:45,730
DIA's, cell phone footage was

1295
01:14:48,580 --> 01:14:50,260
the evidence that you can't dispute.

1296
01:14:51,700 --> 01:14:56,700
He literally had filmed the encounter that

1297
01:14:56,980 --> 01:15:01,605
Hicks said was a parking dispute

and he was disrespected and

1298
01:15:01,605 --> 01:15:04,210
therefore he went on a shooting rampage.

1299
01:15:04,210 --> 01:15:07,300
When the reality is you

see the entire encounter

1300
01:15:07,300 --> 01:15:10,090
of Dia opening, the door being respectful

1301
01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:13,840
and Hicks pulling out the gun

and starting to shoot them.

1302
01:15:23,890 --> 01:15:27,040
That is what we believe Dia

was doing in obtaining cell

1303
01:15:27,040 --> 01:15:30,520
phone footage of the encounter so

1304
01:15:30,520 --> 01:15:32,080
that he could obtain a restraining order.

1305
01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:36,400
- Dia was aware of what's coming

1306
01:15:37,390 --> 01:15:40,090
and was beginning to take

measures to protect his family.

1307
01:16:02,320 --> 01:16:05,620
- It's been four years since

Dia Barakat his wife Yu saw

1308
01:16:05,620 --> 01:16:09,940
Abbas law and her sister Sala

were murdered in Chapel Hill.

1309
01:16:09,940 --> 01:16:11,355
The case against the man accused

1310
01:16:11,355 --> 01:16:14,470
of murdering these three

people is coming to a close.

1311
01:16:15,730 --> 01:16:18,520
- We met with the families multiple times.

1312
01:16:18,520 --> 01:16:21,280
They expressed to us that the

most important things were

1313
01:16:21,280 --> 01:16:22,540
to get this case moving.

1314
01:16:22,540 --> 01:16:24,640
It was already four years old now.

1315
01:16:24,640 --> 01:16:26,950
And to tell the truth about this case

1316
01:16:26,950 --> 01:16:31,930
and what happened, it mattered

to explain why he chose them.

1317
01:16:31,930 --> 01:16:33,790
But the idea of motive is something

1318
01:16:33,790 --> 01:16:35,890
that's often not even done at a sentencing

1319
01:16:35,890 --> 01:16:37,300
hearing or a plea.

1320
01:16:37,300 --> 01:16:39,730
So it was the only thing

that we could give them

1321
01:16:41,710 --> 01:16:45,160
- Court documents, show cell

phone video may prove this was

1322
01:16:45,160 --> 01:16:46,510
actually a hate crime.

1323
01:16:46,510 --> 01:16:49,120
At least that's what the

victim's family members believe.

1324
01:17:07,030 --> 01:17:08,230
- The video is hard,

1325
01:17:09,740 --> 01:17:14,740
and I do not want to

underestimate the impact

1326
01:17:14,900 --> 01:17:16,910
that we will have on people to see it.

1327
01:17:16,910 --> 01:17:18,320
- The decision on whether

1328
01:17:18,320 --> 01:17:22,315
or not to play Diaz's

video was one that Satana

1329
01:17:22,315 --> 01:17:25,160
and I left entirely to the family.

1330
01:17:26,480 --> 01:17:29,510
We did not know what

they were going to do.

1331
01:17:30,440 --> 01:17:32,000
- You're like, who are we

trying to convince here?

1332
01:17:32,870 --> 01:17:34,855
You quote it. I think the family members

1333
01:17:34,855 --> 01:17:37,460
and their friends would appreciate

not watching it would get

1334
01:17:37,460 --> 01:17:39,530
the full effect of what happened

1335
01:17:39,530 --> 01:17:40,915
and you know, if you're gonna listen

1336
01:17:40,915 --> 01:17:42,205
to the truth, you're

gonna listen to the truth.

1337
01:17:42,205 --> 01:17:43,580
If you're gonna deny it,

you're gonna deny it.

1338
01:17:43,580 --> 01:17:45,860
Whether it's clear or a

little bit less clear,

1339
01:17:46,880 --> 01:17:48,110
- Think it should be showed.

1340
01:17:48,110 --> 01:17:51,440
We've gone through so much

already, we've lost them.

1341
01:17:53,720 --> 01:17:56,330
The world should know about

it and should be seen.

1342
01:17:57,680 --> 01:18:01,555
- Having it on media forever

afterwards is gonna be very bad

1343
01:18:01,555 --> 01:18:02,990
for us as families.

1344
01:18:02,990 --> 01:18:05,900
Never a closure ever.

1345
01:18:05,900 --> 01:18:09,110
And it can be used in a

bad way by his supporters.

1346
01:18:10,130 --> 01:18:13,730
It can be twisted, it can be

commented on. That's my fear.

1347
01:18:13,730 --> 01:18:15,500
So I really hope

1348
01:18:15,500 --> 01:18:18,290
that we can avoid showing

it all together if we can.

1349
01:18:20,540 --> 01:18:23,780
On one side, you are in a fighter mode

1350
01:18:23,780 --> 01:18:25,370
as you want the truth to be shown.

1351
01:18:26,240 --> 01:18:28,490
And on the other side,

yes, there is a part of you

1352
01:18:28,490 --> 01:18:31,700
that says, please, God's

sake get over and done with.

1353
01:18:31,700 --> 01:18:35,515
I wanna live my life,

but I was sensitive to

1354
01:18:35,515 --> 01:18:37,310
what my wife can deal with.

1355
01:18:38,180 --> 01:18:42,410
I did not expect her to

survive that video. I did not.

1356
01:18:42,410 --> 01:18:44,840
So I left the last word to her.

1357
01:18:50,355 --> 01:18:53,930
- I in favor. I playing the video we have.

1358
01:18:53,930 --> 01:18:57,745
Yeah, so I don't mind

either. The whole world here.

1359
01:18:57,745 --> 01:18:58,745
This is the truth.

1360
01:19:00,800 --> 01:19:05,300
- I was shockingly surprised

that she wanted the video

1361
01:19:05,300 --> 01:19:10,300
to be shown, but then it

tells you how hurt she was

1362
01:19:10,520 --> 01:19:12,500
and how much she wanted the world to see.

1363
01:19:12,500 --> 01:19:13,500
The real story.

1364
01:19:14,480 --> 01:19:19,480
- Amira, when she made that

decision, I looked at her

1365
01:19:19,610 --> 01:19:23,030
and I felt, I felt a tether.

1366
01:19:23,030 --> 01:19:24,170
Connect me to her.

1367
01:19:25,010 --> 01:19:27,980
- And this is the most important point

1368
01:19:27,980 --> 01:19:29,930
that gonna show the truth

1369
01:19:29,930 --> 01:19:31,550
- From one mom to another.

1370
01:20:08,610 --> 01:20:12,480
- Good morning, Kendra

Montgomery Blin for the state.

1371
01:20:12,480 --> 01:20:16,050
Four very different lives collided

1372
01:20:16,050 --> 01:20:17,760
in Jerome County, North Carolina.

1373
01:20:19,110 --> 01:20:21,485
This is Raan Abuja.

1374
01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:24,840
Raan was only 19 years old.

1375
01:20:24,840 --> 01:20:28,200
She was a student at NC

State studying architecture.

1376
01:20:30,120 --> 01:20:34,710
Raan was a team leader at

Project Downtown, an effort

1377
01:20:34,710 --> 01:20:37,350
to feed the homeless in

Brawley and in Durham.

1378
01:20:38,730 --> 01:20:41,010
Twice each month, Raan would cook trays

1379
01:20:41,010 --> 01:20:44,670
and trays of food, her own gentle hands,

1380
01:20:45,540 --> 01:20:49,105
and she always took time

to include a personal note

1381
01:20:49,105 --> 01:20:52,680
or a flour so that the

recipients would know

1382
01:20:52,680 --> 01:20:54,090
that their meal was made with love.

1383
01:20:57,840 --> 01:21:02,250
This is, you saw Abha. Ur was 21 years old

1384
01:21:02,250 --> 01:21:05,160
and she was preparing

to begin graduate school

1385
01:21:05,160 --> 01:21:09,270
at the University of North

Carolina's School of Dentistry.

1386
01:21:09,270 --> 01:21:13,080
During college, she volunteered

at the Turkish Syrian border

1387
01:21:13,080 --> 01:21:14,880
where she delivered resources

1388
01:21:14,880 --> 01:21:16,890
and aided Syrian refugee children.

1389
01:21:18,810 --> 01:21:21,000
Six weeks before she was murdered,

1390
01:21:21,000 --> 01:21:23,070
she married her love Dia Bearcat.

1391
01:21:24,990 --> 01:21:27,180
Dia was 23 years old

1392
01:21:27,180 --> 01:21:29,910
and he was in his second

year of dental school at UNC

1393
01:21:30,780 --> 01:21:32,225
DIA's Humanitarian efforts

1394
01:21:32,225 --> 01:21:34,500
and love of people, basketball, friends

1395
01:21:34,500 --> 01:21:37,500
and family was evident in all that he did.

1396
01:21:38,370 --> 01:21:40,680
Dia and Usor had just

returned from their honeymoon.

1397
01:21:41,850 --> 01:21:42,960
Ur had moved into the condo

1398
01:21:42,960 --> 01:21:44,700
that Dia owned before their wedding.

1399
01:21:48,840 --> 01:21:52,290
These young people were

proud to be Muslim.

1400
01:21:52,290 --> 01:21:54,510
They were proud to be Americans,

1401
01:21:54,510 --> 01:21:57,000
and they were living the American dream.

1402
01:22:00,930 --> 01:22:04,380
Meanwhile, the defendant,

1403
01:22:04,380 --> 01:22:08,520
Craig Stevens Hicks life was on a very

1404
01:22:08,520 --> 01:22:10,200
different trajectory

1405
01:22:11,370 --> 01:22:12,370
- In my career.

1406
01:22:12,370 --> 01:22:14,880
I've had many cases that

were under the microscope.

1407
01:22:14,880 --> 01:22:17,250
What was stressful about this case was

1408
01:22:17,250 --> 01:22:21,540
that I knew my one job

was to get every piece

1409
01:22:21,540 --> 01:22:23,010
of this motive out.

1410
01:22:24,780 --> 01:22:28,170
- The American dream was

slipping from his grass.

1411
01:22:28,170 --> 01:22:31,650
He had lost his job at the

Ford's parts department.

1412
01:22:32,670 --> 01:22:35,700
Coworkers described him as

having a fanatical fascination

1413
01:22:35,700 --> 01:22:38,485
with guns and playing

computer sniper games.

1414
01:22:38,485 --> 01:22:41,820
While at work, according

to his first ex-wife,

1415
01:22:41,820 --> 01:22:46,350
he obsessively watched his

favorite movie falling Down.

1416
01:22:46,350 --> 01:22:49,650
She said he watched it incessantly.

1417
01:22:49,650 --> 01:22:53,550
He thought it was hilarious.

He had no compassion at all.

1418
01:22:54,510 --> 01:22:57,390
The significance of this

movie cannot be overlooked

1419
01:22:57,390 --> 01:23:00,360
because it depicts a white

man making his way through.

1420
01:23:00,360 --> 01:23:03,480
Los Angeles amassing a cache of weapons

1421
01:23:03,480 --> 01:23:07,690
and bodies as he feels victimized

by immigrant store owners

1422
01:23:07,690 --> 01:23:09,130
and gang members.

1423
01:23:09,130 --> 01:23:13,000
- And it was clear that Mr.

Hicks idolized this character in

1424
01:23:13,000 --> 01:23:16,840
the movie who left a trail of bloodshed

1425
01:23:16,840 --> 01:23:20,320
and mayhem behind him in order to get

1426
01:23:20,320 --> 01:23:21,340
to what he thought he deserved.

1427
01:23:27,305 --> 01:23:30,700
- In Mr. Hick's house, officers

discovered 13 more guns

1428
01:23:34,120 --> 01:23:35,860
and the murder weapon was in his car.

1429
01:23:38,290 --> 01:23:43,290
The Chapel Hill Police

Department interviewed 36

1430
01:23:43,485 --> 01:23:45,910
neighbors in the Findley Forest community

1431
01:23:47,410 --> 01:23:48,820
to the white neighbors.

1432
01:23:48,820 --> 01:23:52,390
Mr. Hicks left angry

notes, shouted at them

1433
01:23:52,390 --> 01:23:54,130
and told them to move.

1434
01:23:55,180 --> 01:24:00,180
They did not notice him having

a gun or displaying a gun.

1435
01:24:00,370 --> 01:24:04,750
During those interactions

to the non-white neighbors,

1436
01:24:04,750 --> 01:24:07,390
Mr. Hicks displayed firearms

1437
01:24:07,390 --> 01:24:09,190
and threatened them with violence.

1438
01:24:10,600 --> 01:24:12,700
Two weeks prior to the murders, a woman

1439
01:24:12,700 --> 01:24:14,890
of Indian heritage was confronted by Hicks

1440
01:24:14,890 --> 01:24:16,870
as he blocked her in with his car.

1441
01:24:16,870 --> 01:24:19,390
He then went upstairs,

leaving her blocked in

1442
01:24:19,390 --> 01:24:22,810
and made threats that she felt

were ethnically motivated.

1443
01:24:22,810 --> 01:24:25,360
The Chapel Hill Police

Department interviewed African

1444
01:24:25,360 --> 01:24:28,690
American workers who had been

renovating the victim's condo.

1445
01:24:29,800 --> 01:24:32,890
Multiple of them described

Mr. Hicks as aggressive

1446
01:24:32,890 --> 01:24:35,290
and said that he would confront

them over the noise from the

1447
01:24:35,290 --> 01:24:37,450
renovation and that he could have,

1448
01:24:37,450 --> 01:24:39,370
he would have a bulge under his clothing

1449
01:24:40,330 --> 01:24:41,800
that they knew was a gun.

1450
01:24:42,670 --> 01:24:45,910
One was threatened by Hicks

in order to move his truck

1451
01:24:45,910 --> 01:24:49,000
and felt that he heard Mr.

Hicks using the N word.

1452
01:24:50,020 --> 01:24:55,020
But Mr. Hicks saved the worst

of his I for Dia Barica.

1453
01:24:55,420 --> 01:25:00,190
And you saw When Dia

1454
01:25:00,190 --> 01:25:02,355
USO and Raan sat down to share dinner.

1455
01:25:02,355 --> 01:25:07,180
On February 10th, 2015, Mr.

Hicks came to their door.

1456
01:25:08,050 --> 01:25:11,050
They had grown fearful of the defendant

1457
01:25:11,050 --> 01:25:15,220
and his increasing gun

wielding hostilities.

1458
01:25:15,220 --> 01:25:18,700
And Dia did something that

he did not normally do.

1459
01:25:19,810 --> 01:25:21,400
He answered the door

1460
01:25:21,400 --> 01:25:25,210
with his phone in his hand on record.

1461
01:25:26,110 --> 01:25:29,320
Dia did not know what

he was about to record.

1462
01:25:29,320 --> 01:25:34,270
But DIA's last act on this

earth is definitive proof

1463
01:25:34,270 --> 01:25:37,240
that Mr. Hicks acted with malice

1464
01:25:37,240 --> 01:25:40,425
and an outright effort to

slander the victims in order

1465
01:25:40,425 --> 01:25:43,960
to falsely mitigate his own cruelty.

1466
01:25:45,070 --> 01:25:47,860
Dia gives us the final proof

1467
01:25:47,860 --> 01:25:51,730
that the only words Mr.

Hicks repeated to the police

1468
01:25:51,730 --> 01:25:55,065
and that dialogue that

were accurate was Mr.

1469
01:25:55,065 --> 01:25:58,390
Hicks' own well-rehearsed phrase.

1470
01:25:58,390 --> 01:26:02,350
If you're gonna disrespect

me, I will disrespect

1471
01:26:02,350 --> 01:26:03,350
- You.

1472
01:26:05,390 --> 01:26:06,390
May we approach, your honor,

1473
01:26:10,490 --> 01:26:15,470
- The video that Dia took was

so important, so powerful,

1474
01:26:15,470 --> 01:26:18,410
and the final piece to show

1475
01:26:18,410 --> 01:26:20,085
what this motive for Craig Hicks was.

1476
01:26:21,350 --> 01:26:24,110
But it was such a difficult moment

1477
01:26:26,390 --> 01:26:27,950
before we played it.

1478
01:26:27,950 --> 01:26:30,980
I stopped and asked the

judge if I could approach,

1479
01:26:30,980 --> 01:26:34,700
but instead approached

Damira first to confirm

1480
01:26:34,700 --> 01:26:37,100
that this was still

the wish of the family.

1481
01:26:37,100 --> 01:26:38,690
And she gave me the go ahead

1482
01:26:38,690 --> 01:26:40,610
and then we went to the judge to get ready

1483
01:26:40,610 --> 01:26:41,900
to have it sealed, to play.

1484
01:26:41,900 --> 01:26:46,490
It all cameras off, all, all sound off.

1485
01:26:46,490 --> 01:26:48,980
Just the people that were

there in that courtroom

1486
01:26:50,120 --> 01:26:55,120
- State has asked the court

to order that all recording

1487
01:26:55,400 --> 01:26:59,480
devices, cameras, photographs,

1488
01:26:59,480 --> 01:27:02,150
be turned off during

this short period of time

1489
01:27:02,150 --> 01:27:04,730
that this tape is going to run.

1490
01:27:04,730 --> 01:27:09,110
The court will so order, so do not record.

1491
01:27:09,110 --> 01:27:12,590
- As I sat in that courtroom

with family members

1492
01:27:12,590 --> 01:27:16,610
and community members, they did

tell us if anyone would like

1493
01:27:16,610 --> 01:27:18,590
to step out, now is the time.

1494
01:27:19,670 --> 01:27:24,170
And that was the cue for

myself and others to leave.

1495
01:27:25,130 --> 01:27:27,950
But not a single person moved.

1496
01:27:31,460 --> 01:27:34,580
I mean, you can hear a pin

drop in that courtroom.

1497
01:27:34,580 --> 01:27:35,930
Everyone was silent.

1498
01:28:49,465 --> 01:28:52,250
- Then after the recording is done,

1499
01:28:53,870 --> 01:28:58,400
you can see in everyone's

face the the toll it took

1500
01:28:58,400 --> 01:29:00,410
to hear Jo and Reza screaming,

1501
01:29:01,740 --> 01:29:04,950
- Pleading to

- Him saying, please

1502
01:29:04,950 --> 01:29:05,950
- Don't do it.

1503
01:29:07,200 --> 01:29:07,830
- Don't do it.

1504
01:29:12,090 --> 01:29:16,145
- After the phone falls

down, NJA see Diaz's arm

1505
01:29:27,570 --> 01:29:31,230
flailing with each shot.

1506
01:29:34,980 --> 01:29:37,560
If you know nothing else, you know

1507
01:29:37,560 --> 01:29:42,560
that this murderer took the time to

1508
01:29:42,780 --> 01:29:47,780
execute his victims to ensure

that they could not survive

1509
01:29:48,000 --> 01:29:51,630
and shooting Dia a second time.

1510
01:29:51,630 --> 01:29:52,630
Just to be sure

1511
01:29:58,935 --> 01:30:01,465
- It's clear that this was premeditated.

1512
01:30:02,910 --> 01:30:05,070
It's clear that these

individuals were executed.

1513
01:30:07,230 --> 01:30:09,360
I knew immediately that

this was a hate crime.

1514
01:30:11,100 --> 01:30:14,100
To look back at the perpetrator's life.

1515
01:30:14,100 --> 01:30:18,570
He kind of left the breadcrumbs

as to where he was going.

1516
01:30:18,570 --> 01:30:21,780
Kind of this totality

of the circumstances.

1517
01:30:21,780 --> 01:30:24,840
So absolutely his online persona matters.

1518
01:30:24,840 --> 01:30:26,580
The words he used matters.

1519
01:30:26,580 --> 01:30:30,660
The fact that he pret

contextually created this idea

1520
01:30:30,660 --> 01:30:32,970
that there was a parking dispute mattered.

1521
01:30:32,970 --> 01:30:36,690
All of the aggressive

actions he took toward

1522
01:30:36,690 --> 01:30:37,770
people of color.

1523
01:30:37,770 --> 01:30:39,870
All of that adds up

1524
01:30:39,870 --> 01:30:43,230
to why in my heart

there's never been a doubt

1525
01:30:43,230 --> 01:30:44,310
that this was a hate crime.

1526
01:30:45,540 --> 01:30:49,110
- Anything from the state as

to any aspect of sentencing.

1527
01:30:50,580 --> 01:30:52,125
- Yes, your honor. You said not be here,

1528
01:30:52,125 --> 01:30:57,125
- Are we

- In light of the factual basis

1529
01:30:57,480 --> 01:31:01,680
we'd like to now call

families for making impact.

1530
01:31:02,730 --> 01:31:04,290
- Thank you, your Honor,

for allowing me to speak.

1531
01:31:06,990 --> 01:31:10,200
I will be addressing you.

The hateful murderer.

1532
01:31:12,480 --> 01:31:15,030
You executed my sisters

1533
01:31:15,030 --> 01:31:19,560
and my best friend in cold

blood out of pure hatred.

1534
01:31:21,060 --> 01:31:25,740
You saw them as others.

You hated the hijab.

1535
01:31:27,690 --> 01:31:32,640
You saw these beautiful,

kind-hearted, philanthropic,

1536
01:31:32,640 --> 01:31:35,760
academic achievers, people of faith,

1537
01:31:37,050 --> 01:31:40,320
the exact antithesis of you as evil,

1538
01:31:41,340 --> 01:31:43,530
when in fact you are evil.

1539
01:31:53,640 --> 01:31:56,460
- I still have nightmares where I,

1540
01:31:58,590 --> 01:32:01,660
I wake in the morning confused

1541
01:32:01,660 --> 01:32:05,560
because I just had a really

vivid dream where I was looking

1542
01:32:05,560 --> 01:32:07,060
for my baby brother

1543
01:32:08,290 --> 01:32:11,895
and I couldn't find him, or

I found him and he's okay.

1544
01:32:11,895 --> 01:32:13,960
Why is everyone saying

that he's not alive?

1545
01:32:15,190 --> 01:32:17,350
People don't realize what it takes

1546
01:32:17,350 --> 01:32:19,150
to actually sit in this chair.

1547
01:32:21,820 --> 01:32:24,070
I'm not doing this for me.

1548
01:32:26,260 --> 01:32:31,260
It's because it's time for a change

1549
01:32:31,300 --> 01:32:33,880
and I'm tired of carrying that burden.

1550
01:32:36,525 --> 01:32:41,365
I see you looking at me and

I have questions for you.

1551
01:32:43,990 --> 01:32:45,760
36 seconds.

1552
01:32:47,800 --> 01:32:50,860
That's how long it took for

you to shatter our lives

1553
01:32:50,860 --> 01:32:54,520
for why.

1554
01:32:56,290 --> 01:32:59,170
How was it worth it?

1555
01:33:01,210 --> 01:33:04,030
What would have happened

had you decided on

1556
01:33:04,030 --> 01:33:07,450
that fateful evening to join

them for dinner instead?

1557
01:33:10,000 --> 01:33:15,000
How might this day, June 12th,

2019 be different for you?

1558
01:33:15,280 --> 01:33:17,710
For me, for all of us

1559
01:33:18,670 --> 01:33:20,350
and for Leah Anne.

1560
01:33:22,120 --> 01:33:26,440
Alas, I will never know,

but this is what I do know.

1561
01:33:27,550 --> 01:33:30,880
I will never hug my brother again.

1562
01:33:30,880 --> 01:33:34,420
I will never be an aunt to their children.

1563
01:33:34,420 --> 01:33:38,590
I will never have holidays

with them ever again.

1564
01:33:39,640 --> 01:33:43,480
These are nevers that are

as real as it gets for me,

1565
01:33:43,480 --> 01:33:45,580
my family and my community.

1566
01:33:58,540 --> 01:34:00,015
- Mr. Hicks, if you stand right there

1567
01:34:00,015 --> 01:34:03,880
where you are, alright then, Ms.

1568
01:34:03,880 --> 01:34:07,210
Clerk, he's sentenced to the

three consecutive sentences

1569
01:34:07,210 --> 01:34:11,680
of life imprisonment without

the possibility of parole.

1570
01:34:12,880 --> 01:34:14,860
Alright, Mr. Sheriff,

he's in your custody, sir.

1571
01:34:25,750 --> 01:34:29,530
Mr. Sheriff, this sentencing

proceeding has terminated.

1572
01:34:30,430 --> 01:34:32,230
You can clear the courtroom

peacefully, please.

1573
01:34:52,570 --> 01:34:56,620
- Our governor failed these families.

1574
01:34:59,240 --> 01:35:03,680
If our federal law is not changed

1575
01:35:03,680 --> 01:35:08,570
to consider an act like

this as a hate crime,

1576
01:35:10,220 --> 01:35:15,220
then it should be rewritten

and it should be named

1577
01:35:15,290 --> 01:35:17,165
after these three beautiful children.